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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 19:20

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Hi
my main pc has after getting slower and freezing crashed
it wont even give me windows disk check or

i switch it on and it just says

"No system disk or disk error
Replace and strike any key when ready"

there is no cd rom or floppy in any drives

when i hit any key it says its attempting to read something
than goes back to the above message

what shall i do
i have all my reboot discs that came with the pc when i bought here back in 2002 . if i go through that process does that mean all my files are lost.
also
is there anything else i can do
my wireless connection is linked to my main pc

help me please
i have posted the same in majorgeeks
i wonder who can help me first



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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 21:11

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LadyDay wrote: Hi
my main pc has after getting slower and freezing crashed
it wont even give me windows disk check or

i switch it on and it just says

"No system disk or disk error
Replace and strike any key when ready"

there is no cd rom or floppy in any drives

when i hit any key it says its attempting to read something
than goes back to the above message

what shall i do
i have all my reboot discs that came with the pc when i bought here back in 2002 . if i go through that process does that mean all my files are lost.
also
is there anything else i can do
my wireless connection is linked to my main pc

help me please
i have posted the same in majorgeeks
i wonder who can help me first


Sorry LadyDay, if your pc is saying non-system disk, that is a bad situation.  I am assuming you were using Windows XP.  You can try creating an XP boot disk.  Then you can try to boot with that diskette and check to see if you can access the partition.  But Ladyday, screwing around with disk utilities can get to be really complicated. 

If the information on your disk is not critical, I would just advise to try to reload your system.  But nothing is guaranteed.  I am not even sure if your disk is still good.


 





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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 21:26

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Sorry LadyDay, if your pc is saying non-system disk, that is a bad situation.  I am assuming you were using Windows XP.  You can try creating an XP boot disk.  Then you can try to boot with that diskette and check to see if you can access the partition.  But Ladyday, screwing around with disk utilities can get to be really complicated. 

If the information on your disk is not critical, I would just advise to try to reload your system.  But nothing is guaranteed.  I am not even sure if your disk is still good.


for real

major geeks recomended i freeze or refrigirate the hard disc or unscrew and check that its all plugged in

i tried f1 to get into bios but that failed it just kept giving me disk error

i need some stuff off my hardrive are they lost now 

i dont mind doing a full system recovery however which i guess i have no choice but to try this weekend 

mmmm i need my pc, i didnt want to use my laptop for heavy usage


 







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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 21:35

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LadyDay wrote: TheDogon wrote:
Sorry LadyDay, if your pc is saying non-system disk, that is a bad situation.  I am assuming you were using Windows XP.  You can try creating an XP boot disk.  Then you can try to boot with that diskette and check to see if you can access the partition.  But Ladyday, screwing around with disk utilities can get to be really complicated. 

If the information on your disk is not critical, I would just advise to try to reload your system.  But nothing is guaranteed.  I am not even sure if your disk is still good.


for real

major geeks recomended i freeze or refrigirate the hard disc or unscrew and check that its all plugged in

i tried f1 to get into bios but that failed it just kept giving me disk error

i need some stuff off my hardrive are they lost now 

i dont mind doing a full system recovery however which i guess i have no choice but to try this weekend 

mmmm i need my pc, i didnt want to use my laptop for heavy usage


Well, you can do what I did.  Called a drive recovery place.  That can be very expensive.  If your drive is unresponsive, forget about a system recovery.  You need another drive. You can try to rebuild your system on the new drive and if you have a cable that has two connectors, you can hook up your damaged drive "in series" to see if you can access it.  

But for all practical purposes, that drive is gone.  

 




 









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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 21:56

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is it worth me taking it to a pc repair man

if the quite for repair is £100 should i forget it and start saving for a new pc

when you say the drive is gone....do you mean my hardrive is dead

does that mean everything is lost gone and that not even a pc wiz could retrieve files from the hardrive if they tried



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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 22:39

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LadyDay wrote: is it worth me taking it to a pc repair man

if the quite for repair is £100 should i forget it and start saving for a new pc

when you say the drive is gone....do you mean my hardrive is dead

does that mean everything is lost gone and that not even a pc wiz could retrieve files from the hardrive if they tried


Yep, that drive is dead.  I know the feeling.  My machine failed two weeks ago.  Damn drive up and died on me.  I had about 80GB of information on it.  Movies, games, pics, music, etc.  It will take me months to replace all this stuff and even then it won't get everything. 

But yeah, my machine is under warranty, I had to send the defective drive back.  If your machine is out of warranty, the only recourse is to buy a hard disk.  Then have a tech install it. I am not sure if that will cost you more than 100 pounds.

For now on, both you and I should keep critical files backed up to cd or on a jump drive.

 

 




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 Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 22:51

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im going to cry now

im going on holiday and cant save for a new pc till middle of summer

why me why me

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 Posted: Friday February 16th, 2007 02:18

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Maybe someone shipped you a dose of virus.




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 Posted: Friday February 16th, 2007 12:14

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well the techies i spoke to said they doubt its a virus

but seems they may be able to assist me

they told me to try the reboot functions failing that they will try recover the information of teh hardrive for me

@the dogon they agree with you it seems



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Well, if you find someone who can actually take a look at the drive, the information should be salvageable, because the info is actually on the disk.  I don't know much about drive repair, but if it is a deal where the drive just won't respond, it's a possibility they could just replace a component or two and get it working. 

If there is an issue with the actual disk, then it's gets more complicated, but it is still possible to get the information.

 

 



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 Posted: Monday February 19th, 2007 13:22

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If you need to recover data off the disk then you may be able to jumper it as a slave and plug it into another system and boot from that hard drive.  Then if you can still read the data on the disk that won't boot, copy the stuff off that you need.

The hard drive mantra:

Backup, Backup, Backup.

You don't need it until you do.

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The hard drive mantra:

Backup, Backup, Backup.

You don't need it until you do.



That's all very well UM but when a similar thing happend to me it was an external hard drive that packed up and that was the backup!

There was nothing left to do but format it losing everything. :(



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That's all very well UM but when a similar thing happend to me it was an external hard drive that packed up and that was the backup!

There was nothing left to do but format it losing everything.


But your original hard drive was intact, I presume, so you were still OK.  Effectively, your original drive was the backup of the backup.  What is the probability of two hard drives dying at the same time? 

You don't burn your data to CD?  Is your external drive on all of the time or do you only turn it on to do the backup?

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umbrarchist wrote: That's all very well UM but when a similar thing happend to me it was an external hard drive that packed up and that was the backup!

There was nothing left to do but format it losing everything.


But your original hard drive was intact, I presume, so you were still OK.  Effectively, your original drive was the backup of the backup.  What is the probability of two hard drives dying at the same time? 

You don't burn your data to CD?  Is your external drive on all of the time or do you only turn it on to do the backup?

um


Sometimes UM I use to put stuff straight on to the external hard drive bypassing the main computer to save space.

And UM what happenend at the time was that I had to do a re-install and when it had finished I thought rather than load up everything back to the computer I'd just keep it on the external to keep the main hard drive 'clean' - you get me.

At the time it was on most of the time. I've learnt now to use dvd's, cd's and floppy disks to back up stuff to as well but then all I kept reading was how wonderful they are and that external hard drives were the best thing since sliced bread. I never heard any of the problems that could go wrong with them - I still haven't!

And you'd think that two things won't break at the same time. I've got three computers right now - all with something (major) wrong with them!




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Sometimes UM I use to put stuff straight on to the external hard drive bypassing the main computer to save space.

Just because you call a drive a backup doesn't mean it is a backup.  Having a backup means the data is in at least TWO PLACES.  If there is only one copy on the drive that you call a backup drive then there is no backup.

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umbrarchist wrote: Sometimes UM I use to put stuff straight on to the external hard drive bypassing the main computer to save space.

Just because you call a drive a backup doesn't mean it is a backup.  Having a backup means the data is in at least TWO PLACES. 

We're also always told to BACKUP whenever you're about to do to a re-install. I don't know where else entire contents of a hard drive could go but to another hard drive.



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