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Posted: Monday January 29th, 2007 17:15 |
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http://www.itv.com/news/britain_3e8287f1622638757fd375a20e571515.html
Vista was launched in Japan last year and is already available to businesses
Microsoft Vista to launch
4.17, Mon Jan 29 2007
Following five years of development, Microsoft's cutting edge operating system Vista is due to hit the shelves and PCs this week.
It has taken 50 million lines of software code and billions of dollars of investment to replace XP, the Microsoft system powering over 90 per cent of the world's computers.
Vista was launched in Japan last year and is already available to businesses. It is geared for all of today's video, music and gaming multimedia demands making use of the latest technology available.
Microsoft has also teamed up with other major media companies to make sure they and their customers have got the edge.
The software also benefits from the best security to keep data and files safe, and new controls mean that users can't unintentionally make changes that could leave their system vulnerable.
Even if a computer should end up in the wrong hands, new BitLocker technology encrypts the hard drive and protects data from unauthorised users - the same device will protect information on lost computers, a key extra layer of protection as more users travel and use their laptops on the move.
New systems on sale from this week are likely to have Vista already included. Otherwise the software can be bought separately.
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Dont rush out to get it yet... Babylon has its plan:
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801
Jan 29, 2007 04:30 AM
Michael Geist
Vista, the latest version of Microsoft's Windows operating system, makes its long awaited consumer debut tomorrow. The first major upgrade in five years, Vista incorporates a new, sleek look and features a wide array of new functionality, such as better search tools and stronger security.
The early reviews have tended to damn the upgrade with faint praise, however, characterizing it as the best, most secure version of Windows, yet one that contains few, if any, revolutionary features.
While those reviews have focused chiefly on Vista's new functionality, for the past few months the legal and technical communities have dug into Vista's "fine print." Those communities have raised red flags about Vista's legal terms and conditions as well as the technical limitations that have been incorporated into the software at the insistence of the motion picture industry.
The net effect of these concerns may constitute the real Vista revolution as they point to an unprecedented loss of consumer control over their own personal computers. In the name of shielding consumers from computer viruses and protecting copyright owners from potential infringement, Vista seemingly wrestles control of the "user experience" from the user.
Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge. During the installation process, users "activate" Vista by associating it with a particular computer or device and transmitting certain hardware information directly to Microsoft.
Even after installation, the legal agreement grants Microsoft the right to revalidate the software or to require users to reactivate it should they make changes to their computer components. In addition, it sets significant limits on the ability to copy or transfer the software, prohibiting anything more than a single backup copy and setting strict limits on transferring the software to different devices or users.
Vista also incorporates Windows Defender, an anti-virus program that actively scans computers for "spyware, adware, and other potentially unwanted software." The agreement does not define any of these terms, leaving it to Microsoft to determine what constitutes unwanted software.
Once operational, the agreement warns that Windows Defender will, by default, automatically remove software rated "high" or "severe," even though that may result in other software ceasing to work or mistakenly result in the removal of software that is not unwanted.
For greater certainty, the terms and conditions remove any doubt about who is in control by providing that "this agreement only gives you some rights to use the software. Microsoft reserves all other rights." For those users frustrated by the software's limitations, Microsoft cautions that "you may not work around any technical limitations in the software."
Those technical limitations have proven to be even more controversial than the legal ones.
Last December, Peter Guttman, a computer scientist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand released a paper called "A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection." The paper pieced together the technical fine print behind Vista, unraveling numerous limitations in the new software seemingly installed at the direct request of Hollywood interests.
Guttman focused primarily on the restrictions associated with the ability to play back high-definition content from the next-generation DVDs such as Blu-Ray and HD-DVD (referred to as "premium content").
He noted that Vista intentionally degrades the picture quality of premium content when played on most computer monitors.
Guttman's research suggests that consumers will pay more for less with poorer picture quality yet higher costs since Microsoft needed to obtain licences from third parties in order to access the technology that protects premium content (those licence fees were presumably incorporated into Vista's price).
Moreover, he calculated that the technological controls would require considerable consumption of computing power with the system conducting 30 checks each second to ensure that there are no attacks on the security of the premium content.
Microsoft responded to Guttman's paper earlier this month, maintaining that content owners demanded the premium content restrictions. According to Microsoft, "if the policies [associated with the premium content] required protections that Windows Vista couldn't support, then the content would not be able to play at all on Windows Vista PCs." While that may be true, left unsaid is Microsoft's ability to demand a better deal on behalf of its enormous user base or the prospect that users could opt-out of the technical controls.
When Microsoft introduced Windows 95 more than a decade ago, it adopted the Rolling Stones "Start Me Up" as its theme song. As millions of consumers contemplate the company's latest upgrade, the legal and technological restrictions may leave them singing "You Can't Always Get What You Want."
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 15:48 |
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Surprise, surprise.....MS goes in for sharp practice....
Few people really need Vista - the average user wants to surf a little, send emails, maybe create documents......some are stepping into digital media handling (music/photos/movies)....but even with all that.....XP is more than adequate for most people's needs, so long as you have a decent processor and max out your RAM......
Wonder how long it will be before MS stops supporting XP, thereby forcing people to use Vista......the living scam 
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 17:23 |
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Microsoft to extend support for Windows XP for 5 years
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/301038_tbrfs25.html
And MS press release; http://snipurl.com/18kd3
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@SoulRebel... exactly! like it or not... "you will buy Vista" says Mr Gates.
Apple does the same tactic with every release of OS, I was loyal to Mac until they made it nigh on impossible to keep up with loss of support (Panther and Leopard support disappeared with Tiger launch, then they launched dual format w/XP... so now what?)
Any Linux heads around?
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 19:57 |
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YankeeJamaRican wrote: @SoulRebel... exactly! like it or not... "you will buy Vista" says Mr Gates.
Apple does the same tactic with every release of OS, I was loyal to Mac until they made it nigh on impossible to keep up with loss of support (Panther and Leopard support disappeared with Tiger launch, then they launched dual format w/XP... so now what?)
Any Linux heads around?
Wish I was one....will be one day......in the meantime, I avoid paying for software unless i absolutely have to, which is rare....plenty of free stuff around......and very little of it is MS so Billy boy doesn't see any of my money....plus a bit of basic pc knowhow.....does the job...
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I read that you WILL conform to Vista within the next five years because they'll simply refuse to activate XP any more.
Where's my win98 cd? 
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Saida.M wrote: I read that you WILL conform to Vista within the next five years because they'll simply refuse to activate XP any more.
Where's my win98 cd?
Bill says....
Windows 98? We'll see about that.....
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The bottom line is CONTROL.
This is not just about Vista and Bill Gates.
We are headed for a future where people can't function without computers. The first one didn't become operational until 1945 and no one then could have imagined what we have now. What do you think is going to happen over the next 60 years? I have mentioned Black people standardizing on Linux a number of times on various websites in the last 4 years. I don't think I have had 6 people agree.
I think we need to take the social psychology of European culture into account on this issue. We are talking about people on ego-power trips with no limits. Almost all computers are von Neumann machines. I worked for IBM for 4 years. I never saw the term anywhere in that time. I didn't learn it until after I quit. To test the performance of computers you do benchmarks. The only time I ran across the term benchmark was when I used it. It didn't get to me unitl years later, How could I work for the biggest computer company in the world and never run across the term von Neumann machine?
If you want to hide information about something computers are a great technology to do it with. Then you make the ignorant pay thru the nose. This is about MONEY! Do we want to be techno-SLAVES for the next 1000 years.
The computer industry has a very peculiar problem. The technology is TOO GOOD. In 1978 IBM introduced the 3033 mainframe. The Singer Corporation bought the very first one. It cost THREE MILLION DOLLARS. Do you need the power of a $3,000,000 computer? My tests indicate it was about equivalent to a 300 MHz Pentium. And it maxed out at 32 megabytes of memory.
I wouldn't pay $200 for a used computer with those specs today.
Admittedly we are doing things now that need a lot more processing power than accounting and inventory for a multimillion dollar corporation. Ripping a CD and converting it to MP3s takes more processing power than plenty of companies used in a month back then. But Intel and AMD need software that wastes processing power on irrelevant trivia to get us to upgrade hardware. It's about the MONEY. So do we buy computers to empower us or do we buy them to put our heads in an economic noose for the palefaces?
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Vista will standalone for elite personnel. It is meant for select computers so if you work in a multicomputing environment maybe one or two computer with IT experts will be on it. Consumers are in debt and I dont think a 2 gig ram computer with CPU intensive high hard drive space will be on high priority.
I went to a pawn shop to get an old computer for a relative and the brother said they sold out all their towers on Christmas. So there is alot of XP going back systems out there simply not going to be Vista ready. And surprisingly there is still a strong demand for the low end used computer.
I have a contact in Japan who works in computer related fields and they are using much different software and if it is windows it XP or 2000.
Once a network is in place most businesses do not update their software (virus scans, operating systems, etc) because it takes too much time and it's a hassle. Time is money and reliability is highly regarded.
Bill Gates and his company as always doesnt think to well enough for his customers.
After all he did business edition first then the consumer. That already demonstrate where his priorities lay.
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Does this mean it will stop me using all the illegal software on my PC? All those downloaded and cracked applications I run like office, nero, maple, autocad etc... and if it does stop me using them how will it do this?
I mean I used cracks to register them anyway so
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Vital Vista Viewpoints!
Why in the world does Vista make such strenuous demands on the hardware? There is one simple answer - Eye Candy..... Microsoft created a whole new look and feel for XP, with new rounded corners and visual effects.
Microsoft hopes to continue this tradition with Vista. Vista will change the way that Windows are displayed on our screens. In particular, Vista will incorporate smooth transitional effects when we change from one window to another. Despite the wow factor, this approach is extremely memory intensive. Worse yet, is what happens when Vista runs out of memory. The computer will start thrashing. |
http://pcpitstop.com/news/rob/rcheng0606.asp
Basically, the thread gets down to the fact that Vista is a bloated product and Microsoft has become a bloated company, with one staffer comparing what M$ has become to the old Big Bloated Bluey.
The real problem for Microsoft is it has invested about as much money as the Gross Domestic Product of more than a few African nations in an operating system that became out-of-date about a year before it was due to ship. The simple fact is we don't need another desktop operating system. We need an Everywhere OS....
Now tell me when was the last time you found yourself at a loss because there was some file on your home PC that you really needed when you were on the road. I reckon I have that problem once a week, at least. Do you use multiple computers too? Find it frustrating trying to remember how you set up the file system on each one? |
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re: Microsoft made Vista intentionally bloated; need new hardward etc
[a]rticle about how Microsoft made Vista intentionally bloated! The idea is, unless operating systems gobble up more and more resources, most people have no reason to buy new computers. Knowing this, Microsoft knew all they had to do was make an operating system that demanded new hardware, and manufacturers would embrace it even if it totally sucked.
This is one more example of the instability of so-called "growth." Once resource consumption is tied to profits, it becomes an end in itself, and the system can neither stop the acceleration, nor continue it, without crashing.
The author suggests that Linux needs to compromise with this trend to increase its market share, which is silly. Why does Linux need to increase its market share at all? As long as I have a good Linux distro and a computer it works on, why do I care whether 80% or 99% of the other rats follow the piper into the river? |
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We should be more worried about this than the majority of us are likely to be. Ominous stuff!
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Would be intresting if microsoft took a stance on illegal downloading. Won't be getting the new version. Might make the swith to Apple or just not use a comp so much.
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The Watcher wrote: Does this mean it will stop me using all the illegal software on my PC? All those downloaded and cracked applications I run like office, nero, maple, autocad etc... and if it does stop me using them how will it do this?
I mean I used cracks to register them anyway so
brother we are both clever thief’s with superior intelligence. I got my win98 from a friend also my windows Xp from a friend too. I say if you can get stuff that costs hundreds for free, why not?? I mean don’t black people have pockets? Don’t we save for the important stuff?
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A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in order to provide content protection for so-called “premium content�, typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance, system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and software cost. These issues affect not only users of Vista but the entire PC industry, since the effects of the protection measures extend to cover all hardware and software that will ever come into contact with Vista, even if it's not used directly with Vista (for example hardware in a Macintosh computer or on a Linux server). This document analyses the cost involved in Vista's content protection, and the collateral damage that this incurs throughout the computer industry.
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If people want the look of vista, get windows blinds and object desktop from stardock for xp, it seems to be very similar software incorparated into vista.
After trying vista beta a long while ago I'm pretty sure about ms plans to lock you out of your own computer if you dont have proper activation by them, it wouldn't suprise me if a subscription based OS would be introduced at the next offing, maybe it will even need a key renewl in 12 months this time around. It is processor and hdd hungry.
I've been on Linux for a while now, all I need is internet and a news server there is nothing I can think of that I need windows for, time to get off the ms money train.
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I used to work for a company that had a Sperry-Univac machine. They were running some real estate management software for which thay had to call in every month to get a new password to keep the software running and of course if they didn't pay the monthly fee then thay didn't get the password.
I figured that was the direction Macro$cam was heading ever since XP came out. That is why Linux makes sense. Plus the computers are so incredibly powerful they need to put silly sh!t in the software to waste the power which most people really don't need.
It's about the MONEY!
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Vista Flaws Leave Door Open for Hackers
Microsoft's claim of superior security in its new Vista Vista OS already faces challenges, with a set of vulnerabilities reported Tuesday that affect IE and Firefox Web browsers, as well as the Exchange Server. Though a hacker could exploit these flaws to commandeer a Vista-based computer, the software giant insists the problems are minor.
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I got vista TODAY !!! It's brilliant. It's works perfectly and there are alot fo different features. It came with my new laptop and it's not bad but it's not that much different from XP although I have not really tried out Vista yet. I will let everyone know how it is once I start using my Laptop a lil more 
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It came with my new laptop
How much memory is in the laptop?
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Lambs to the slaughter. I hope you have a serious processor & 1-2G RAM in that mofo.
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