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Posted: Thursday October 19th, 2006 22:52 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6066650.stm
Microsoft's browser gets upgraded
IE 7 will be the browser that ships with Windows VistaMicrosoft has made Internet Explorer 7 (IE 7) available to the general public.
The new version is the first upgrade to the web browsing program for more than five years.
New features include tabbed browsing, the ability to search the net directly and an anti-fraud system to thwart phishing attacks.
The new program is available as a free download on 19 October, but many will get it as an automatic update to Windows XP in November.
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The new version of the browser has gone through a long testing regime and five test or "beta" versions have been made available in the last 14 months.
Despite this IE 7 is still seen as an attempt by Microsoft to catch up with rival browsers as it includes features that have long been seen in competitors such as Firefox and Opera.
With the new version, it is possible to open up tabs rather than windows for new webpages and subscribe to RSS feeds via the browser.
One controversial new feature is the addition of a box that lets people search the net directly from the browser rather than through a dedicated webpage.
The Firefox browser has been eroding IE's market shareThis defaults to Microsoft's own search engine, but in a last minute change the software company is letting users choose which search site this feature should call upon.
Built in to the browser is an anti-fraud system that changes the colour of the address bar to red when a user visits a known phishing site. Other warnings will pop-up if an IE 7 user strays onto a site displaying suspicious activity.
The security features on IE 7 mean that many people will get the browser as part of the monthly updates Microsoft issues to address bugs in its software. Home users will get the option to install the browser, and businesses will be able to block its installation on their machines.
Version 6 of Microsoft's browser has regularly been hit by a series of attacks by malicious hackers that attempt to exploit weaknesses in it to take over users' PCs.
IE 7 will also be the default browser for the next version of Microsoft Windows, known as Vista, that is due to be launched in 2007.
The release comes at a time when the numbers of people using Microsoft's Internet Explorer are shrinking. In 2004, 93% of net users browsed the web via IE. Now that proportion has dropped to 86%. Much of that market share has been taken by the Firefox browser, which is used by 11% of net users.
On the day IE 7 was released, a trial version of Version 2.0 of Firefox was also put online for downloading. The finished version is due to be released in the next couple of weeks.
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Posted: Friday October 20th, 2006 22:39 |
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| Hmmm...I will be ignoring IE7 for now. Just will have to wait and see. Using Firefox and Opera now.
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Posted: Friday November 17th, 2006 16:20 |
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has any one installed this version of windows
what is it like?
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Posted: Friday November 17th, 2006 16:39 |
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LadyDay wrote:
has any one installed this version of windows
what is it like?
A mate who builds PCs has a beta version installed. He says it runs well, but you need plenty of RAM (2GB plus) to get the best from it, plus a decent graphics card (256 MB-plus memory). Takes up nuff hard drive space, too.
Personally not convinced of the value of switching (ditto IE7 - Firefox & Opera for me too)....do we really need it? All about more dollars for MacroScam......
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Posted: Friday November 17th, 2006 17:26 |
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OK
i guess i will just stick with wha i got for now
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Posted: Friday November 17th, 2006 20:29 |
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It seems like Microsoft is getting help from Yahoo! in promoting this browser.
Check the home page.
It seems browsers are moneymakers for search engines.
However the only benefit would be for web page makers in using content layout with less backward compatibility and more standardization.
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 14:40 |
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Hi Lady day -- I am one of those people that got an automatic upgrade on my system to IE7. I actually used the MSN browser which I liked lot because I had all my email accounts in one place. I also got an automatic upgrade to the new MSN 9 which has failed on my system. I have tried all the fixes/process that the MSN people have suggested but I think it is time for me to give up on MSN. 
Which brings me back to IE7.
It's got tabs which is a nice feature but I have had so much trouble with viruses and with my memory being sucked up since I started using IE 7 to replace my beloved MSN that I dont think I can stay with IE 7. In fact Hubby has been telling me for months to switch to Firefox. He actually gave me an ultimatum last night: switch to Firefox or stop complaining to me about computer problems!
Since I live to complain to him, I have no choice but to switch to Firefox. 
I thought you might enjoy this link, Lady day
http://www.msfirefox.com/
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 15:18 |
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Also found myself with an automatic upgrade to IE7 on one of my machines, and hate it - slow, less features than IE6, ugly to look at. I will uninstall it if I can.
From what I gather the changes were made partly to win back Firefox fans, but I think it will fail - for me Firefox is far superior.
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 15:33 |
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soul rebel -
what do you like most about firefox? and what do you hate most.
can I get all my emails in one place like I did with MSN?
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 16:42 |
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soul rebel -
what do you like most about firefox? and what do you hate most.
can I get all my emails in one place like I did with MSN?
Likes:
- Safer than IE - fewer security holes, blocks pop-up windows and spyware (and did it before IE introduced this)
- Tabbed browsing - so you can easily have several windows accessible at the same time - might be the answer to getting your emails in one place if you're using webmail like MSN or Yahoo - you can set up your most visited sites on a toolbar which is visible as soon as you go to your homepage - easy to access them all from there
- Lots of useful add-ons (extensions and themes)- these change the on-screen look, speed up page loading, and loads of other stuff
- It's not a Microsoft product - anything that can be done to weaken the stranglehold they are trying to impose on computer usage is a good thing as far as I'm concerned
- It's free - and open-source, so you can even tweak it yourself if you've got the programming know-how.
Only one dislike - can't post on this site when I use it - no idea why. No problem with logging in & viewing pages. Have also found that some other sites don't work quite as they should when using Firefox - seems that most designers assume that visitors will use IE as the norm, but this is changing as Firefox becomes more popular.
Overall, I've found that IE looks and feels extremely limited once you get used to Firefox - it really is a better product. Opera (which I'm using now) is also pretty good - has many similar features to Firefox, though again doesn't work with some sites.
On the email issue, another alternative is using an e-mail client called Thunderbird (also from Mozilla, makers of Firefox) - it's their version of Outlook, and you can set up multiple accounts to receive mail from a number of sources - so if you have Yahoo and Hotmail addresses, for example, you can configure Thunderbird to download your mail from both into separate folders within it. Takes a little setting up, but it's a good way of having a single collection point for all your mail regardless of the number of addresses you have.
Think your husband has a point! Last edited on Saturday January 6th, 2007 16:43 by SoulRebel
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 16:51 |
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Scrub what I said about not being able to post here with Firefox.....
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 17:47 |
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@ Soul Rebel - LOL!
Thank you -- that was very helpful and informative. Hubby also told me about the email client so I defintely will try that out.
once I have completed my virus scan I will install firefox.
did u look at the link I posted for lady day?! what do you think? could that happen?!!
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 18:02 |
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That's a very clever spoof - hopefully only in Microsoft's dreams....though I'm sure they'd love it.....
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 18:18 |
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I noticed the upgraded on my pc but haven't tried it yet, on the lappy. But Firefox is a god system I prefer to use it
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 18:29 |
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Happiness wrote: Hi Lady day -- I am one of those people that got an automatic upgrade on my system to IE7. I actually used the MSN browser which I liked lot because I had all my email accounts in one place. I also got an automatic upgrade to the new MSN 9 which has failed on my system. I have tried all the fixes/process that the MSN people have suggested but I think it is time for me to give up on MSN.
Which brings me back to IE7.
It's got tabs which is a nice feature but I have had so much trouble with viruses and with my memory being sucked up since I started using IE 7 to replace my beloved MSN that I dont think I can stay with IE 7. In fact Hubby has been telling me for months to switch to Firefox. He actually gave me an ultimatum last night: switch to Firefox or stop complaining to me about computer problems!
Since I live to complain to him, I have no choice but to switch to Firefox.
I thought you might enjoy this link, Lady day
http://www.msfirefox.com/
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never installed it my updates dont work
however confused why is it being called microsoft firefox
i have msn browser never used it
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Posted: Saturday January 6th, 2007 21:19 |
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http://www.msfirefox.com/
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never installed it my updates dont work
however confused why is it being called microsoft firefox
i have msn browser never used it
@ Lady day - the msn Firefox is a joke! It is not an MS product......yet! LOL!
I just thought it was funny -
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 03:09 |
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Soul Rebel - I have joined the club!
This is my first post with Firefox! so far so good ... it actually looks like IE and it installed all my favourites/history/homepage etc.. from IE! cool!!
I am most definately loving this ... and I will have to eat crow when I have to admit to hubby that he was right!
Bye bye Mocrosoft!
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 10:18 |
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Happiness wrote:
Soul Rebel - I have joined the club!
This is my first post with Firefox! so far so good ... it actually looks like IE and it installed all my favourites/history/homepage etc.. from IE! cool!!
I am most definately loving this ... and I will have to eat crow when I have to admit to hubby that he was right!
Bye bye Mocrosoft!
Soon you'll wonder why you ever hesitated in the first place......
Next step: if you're a Microsoft Office user, ditch that and try this:
http://www.openoffice.org/
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 20:18 |
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Hi soulRebel - Rome wasn't built in a day! You know it takes time to give up your addiction!!
FF is great but I have so many of my business sites that I cannot view. I have all my business emails on Office Live which I was able to have in MSN - but of course OL wont let me log in with FF. so that's a bummer. I have had to set up a whole bunch of tabs in IE & to handle those sites.
I haven't even tried my financial sites yet..... I really hope I can log into them but I am guessing I wont be able to log into any of them with FF.
I supposed I wont really be able to fully say goodbye to Microsoft.
(I would still do anything to have my MSN back fully functioning!)
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 22:29 |
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SoulRebel wrote:
Happiness wrote:
Soul Rebel - I have joined the club!
This is my first post with Firefox! so far so good ... it actually looks like IE and it installed all my favourites/history/homepage etc.. from IE! cool!!
I am most definately loving this ... and I will have to eat crow when I have to admit to hubby that he was right!
Bye bye Mocrosoft!
Soon you'll wonder why you ever hesitated in the first place......
Next step: if you're a Microsoft Office user, ditch that and try this:
http://www.openoffice.org/
Have any one of you guys tried Office 2007....
All I can say is wow.
Coming back to the subject I use Opera which is the bees knees when it comes to browsers. With a built in email client as well, its your all in one package....Last edited on Sunday January 7th, 2007 22:34 by MCP
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 22:58 |
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Happiness wrote: Hi soulRebel - Rome wasn't built in a day! You know it takes time to give up your addiction!!
FF is great but I have so many of my business sites that I cannot view. I have all my business emails on Office Live which I was able to have in MSN - but of course OL wont let me log in with FF. so that's a bummer. I have had to set up a whole bunch of tabs in IE & to handle those sites.
I haven't even tried my financial sites yet..... I really hope I can log into them but I am guessing I wont be able to log into any of them with FF.
I supposed I wont really be able to fully say goodbye to Microsoft.
(I would still do anything to have my MSN back fully functioning!)
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The restrictive use on some sites is a drag - must admit, though Firefox is my main browser and I use it as often as I can, there are a couple of sites where it's just easier to use IE. Financial sites with their additional security is an obvious one.
For me to let go of MS completely would mean dumping Windows XP entirely - feasible in terms of the alternatives (one day I hope to be a Linux person, plus there's always the Mac), but for the time being I'm OK with minimising how much I use their stuff. Their approach to product licensing is ridiculous and exploitative - and IE apart, there are alternatives for everything else they make that are as good if not better, and often free. There's only one MS product that I use by choice, and that only occasionally.
So wean yourself off slowly...it's all good
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 23:04 |
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MCP wrote: SoulRebel wrote:
Happiness wrote:
Soul Rebel - I have joined the club!
This is my first post with Firefox! so far so good ... it actually looks like IE and it installed all my favourites/history/homepage etc.. from IE! cool!!
I am most definately loving this ... and I will have to eat crow when I have to admit to hubby that he was right!
Bye bye Mocrosoft!
Soon you'll wonder why you ever hesitated in the first place......
Next step: if you're a Microsoft Office user, ditch that and try this:
http://www.openoffice.org/
Have any one of you guys tried Office 2007....
All I can say is wow.
Coming back to the subject I use Opera which is the bees knees when it comes to browsers. With a built in email client as well, its your all in one package....
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What's the deal with Office? I'm kinda used to OpenOffice, but still be interested to hear - got no intention of getting Vista in the short term, but anyway...
I like Opera too, though some sites won't work with it - more so than Firefox, in my experience....but good features. Haven't tried the email client, so will look at that.
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Posted: Monday January 8th, 2007 10:23 |
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Posted: Tuesday January 9th, 2007 20:31 |
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@ SoulRebel
You can have a look yourself at http://www.opera.com
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