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Posted: Sunday January 15th, 2006 23:17 |
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how easy or hard will it be to create and maintain an icon website that lets people use them msn messenger or any messenger and also allows them to create their own and submit their own
please list uk prices
what does this type of site require
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Posted: Monday January 16th, 2006 02:28 |
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I have these stored at Avatar Avenue. NO CHARGE!
http://www.avataravenue.com/
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Posted: Monday January 16th, 2006 11:30 |
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ok so ow does that explain my question
but yes a good starting point but i want my own site
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Posted: Monday January 16th, 2006 12:46 |
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted.
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Posted: Monday January 16th, 2006 21:47 |
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I am a little confused as well.
You want to create a websit which lets people upload small pictures and then be able to refrence them from forum's and messenger applications?
If yes....then fairly easy.
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 05:58 |
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okay not meaning to confuse people
but i want my own site like this http://www.dollidol.com/index.php
http://www.buddyiconeditor.com/ this has links to loads of them
i guess i really need to learn html as i want one of these sites and my own online business
if it is easy can you advise what i need to do to get started and what other technical stuff i would need to know
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 20:04 |
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To make a site where people can download or submit avatars is pretty simple. But if you want to start letting them create them from scratch or edit them it becomes much more difficult.
However I think the most difficult part of the whole project would be getting the content. Do you have a source of 1000's of avatars yet?
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 20:32 |
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my friend nick i am a complete novice
no i dont have any avatars yet
im trying to find out starting point
allowing edits etc can come later on once i have some sort of established site
what do i need to begin besides domain name
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 20:50 |
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Ok well you can do this two ways then:-
1. Start creating the site. If you do or don't get any icons you would have still learnt about making sites and would have gained something at least. Its likely though that if you don't get icons fairly soon you will lose interest.
2. Wait until you get a source of icons and then develop the site. Keep in mind you can't just copy them off another site. You either have to get them made for you, make them yourself or find somebody who has made some free to distribute.
Either way you will want some sort of dynamic site and ideally connecting to a database to keep track of all the files. A quick thought I had was that you could use something like this:-
http://gallery.menalto.com/
Its a photo album software, but theres no reason you couldn't use it for an icon site to just get a rough idea whether your idea is feasible. It has the 3 main areas that you require:-
1. image upload
2. Image preview
3. Image download
Then when you have a more precise idea about what you want, you can either look for another piece of software that best matches what you are looking for, or get/pay somebody to write it for you.
To get it up and running you will need a web host with PHP and MySQL, I'm guessing you will be looking at around £5 - £10 a month for that. Alternativly, I can set you up with some free space on my server here at home. I can't guarantee 100% uptime every month, but for testing it should suit you fine.
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 21:26 |
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thanks for the info
im gonna read up on that site tomorrow
you've given me good info as always
i will have more questions
would any of these books help in learning
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764508237/ref=pd_sim_b_dp_1/202-0900525-5771841
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764589172/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2_cp/202-0900525-5771841
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764571443/ref=pd_sim_b_dp_2/202-0900525-5771841
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764555898/ref=pd_sim_b_dp_5/202-0900525-5771841
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 21:36 |
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Maybe, for me personally I would just use free online tutorials. Once you get the basic idea then just experiment yourself. Best way to learn.
Theres 2 main parts you need to learn with what you are trying to do.
HTML
This is the simple part, very easy to learn. But it only produces static pages, no use on their own for what you are doing.
PHP & MySQL
This can be very complex, although you can learn it. You will only fully understand it if you can understand the logic of programming. The language itself is easy to learn. Its like teaching somebody to paint, you can teach all the various techniques and skills, but if you don't have that trait in you, you will always find it very hard to paint a picture.
But on the up side, did you look at that Gallery software. All the above is all done for you. Just install it an go.
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 21:50 |
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ok so i will look into html php and my sql
my head will be hurting by the end of it all
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 21:55 |
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http://www.w3schools.com/
was told about this site for web knowledge
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 21:59 |
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Not sure if that covers PHP or MySQL.
Best place is here:-
http://www.google.co.uk/
Just stick "tutorial" on the end for whatever you search for.
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 22:03 |
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google is my best friend
no i dont see any php or mysql
will google indeed
btw you are quick tonight
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 22:07 |
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I'm just browsing the web at the moment, I'm just replying when I get a replay mail notification popup .
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 22:25 |
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| try http://www.pixelfx.org. Very helpful site. i use it a lot.
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 22:49 |
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thanks for that site
ooh so much to read
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Posted: Tuesday January 17th, 2006 22:56 |
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LadyDay wrote: thanks for that site
ooh so much to read
no problem. I'm just starting out as a freelance web designer myself. But I focus more on the visual than the technical. Html is pretty easy to master once you get the hang of it 
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Posted: Wednesday January 18th, 2006 18:49 |
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| are avatars easy to create. i have photshop elements and dont mind getting other software?!
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