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Posted: Thursday September 15th, 2005 11:20 |
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Basically this is my situation, been doing the web design as a hobby for a while recently been using CSS and creating some ahlf decents stuff. Anyway thats not the issue.
I need to learn either PHP or ASP but i dont completley grasp what they do and how they do it.
Which is the easiest to learn, i pick up most all computer related issuses easily but this is killing me.
I would appreciate it if someone could explain it to me in straight idiot terms dumb it down as much as possible i wont be offeneded and point me somewhere so i can come over this anyoying learning curve.
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Posted: Thursday September 15th, 2005 14:48 |
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try this site
http://www.w3schools.com/
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Posted: Thursday September 15th, 2005 15:54 |
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Well, first things first...
ASP => Windows servers
PHP => Linux / FreeBSD / UNIX servers
You can put PHP on a Windows server, or ASP on a linux server, but the software is often crippled or really broken (especially linux + ASP) to the point where it is much easier to just follow the above rules. Do you think that you will be developing more on Windows servers or UNIX servers?
Both languages do similar things. For the most part, you embed PHP or ASP code in normal text files. (They will usually require a different extension, such as "index.php" or "default.asp".) When the web server accesses those files, it processes the code before sending it to the browser. Depending on what it is supposed to do (i.e., access a database, process an email form, etc.), it will insert whatever regular HTML code you program it to generate inside of the page before sending it all to the web browser. (You can also embed regular HTML code between chunks of PHP or ASP code.)
Depending on your job, some basic knowlege of one of these languages is often expected (even if you are not strictly a web developer). In terms of functionality, I believe that they are both fairly powerful web scripting tools, however I have absolutely no experience whatsoever when it comes to ASP. I use PHP (or perl depending on the situation) when I build web sites. (I haven't written a plain HTML file in years.)
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Posted: Sunday September 25th, 2005 16:39 |
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| LOL. check this, there both the about the same. there scripting language. PHP is a server side language or (code) that changes into code that the IE and can read. ASP is a lil like HTML but you have a lil more design choices you can do.
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Posted: Tuesday October 25th, 2005 02:55 |
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I will go for PHP
Most open source codes and programs use PHP
ASP is limited.
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Posted: Tuesday October 25th, 2005 02:56 |
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| See it this way, Blackchat runs on PHP
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Posted: Friday January 6th, 2006 02:47 |
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Concur with okaforworld.
I use php specifically because it is open source and can be configured to run correctly on either Linux or Windows servers.
Active Server Pages isn't bad - but its cross platform support is abysmal to say the least... (from my experiences)
Also PHP interfaces with MySQL very easily and cheaply whereas mircrosoft try to tie you into their very expensive server based Database solutions.
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Posted: Friday January 13th, 2006 21:50 |
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PHP and ASP are both server side scripting languages. As has already been stated they generate output (normally HTML) from code you write. A HTML page is static it won't change each time it is viewed. With a page written with PHP or ASP you could for example get the page to display results out of a database or the status of something on the wbe...etc
PHP is very cheap and easy to get started in. It can run on many different platforms and you shouldn't have too much problem getting hosting for it cheaply. If its for home/personal use, or community/small business use and you need to learn from scratch, use PHP.
ASP sort of loses to PHP in the low end enviroment comparison. But as soon as you ramp up to large scale enterprise enviroments it kills PHP in both speed and what you can do with it.
Hope that helps.
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Posted: Wednesday January 25th, 2006 23:41 |
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I still use both ASP and PHP... I run both of them on my localhost... although I am using access... for the database side of things rather than mysql... ideally I would prefer to run both apache and iss on my machine.. but it takes quite a lot of configuration, since rebuilding my laptop.. I am not willing to go thorough it again...
For now I will say php?
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 22:27 |
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@ Blackthought,
Have u ever inserted records into Microsoft Access database via PHP or ASP application server successfully?. I have tried it ceaselessly in the past but unfortunately to no avail and on that basis i have come to the conclusion that Microsoft Access is not compatible with dynamic website. What do you think?
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 22:40 |
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obal85 wrote: @ Blackthought,
Have u ever inserted records into Microsoft Access database via PHP or ASP application server successfully?. I have tried it ceaselessly in the past but unfortunately to no avail and on that basis i have come to the conclusion that Microsoft Access is not compatible with dynamic website. What do you think?
Lol of course it is compatible... its not really that complicated bro once you get the hang of it.. I have done both ASP to Access, and PHP to Mysql... although before I favoured Asp more.. but I planning to drop it, not completely of course but to focus more on PHP... it just makes life easier when it comes to database.
I currently just had both IIS and Apache running on my laptop, which I wasn't able to do in the past, hence I favoured ASP more..
My money will be on PHP and Mysql... if you need any help on getting started you can pm me I will be able to help.
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 22:46 |
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Sorry bro I forgot to add another note...
If you are going to be developing a software that requires Database, then I will recommend you stick to Access... and Myql is not so great for deployement.
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Posted: Tuesday April 18th, 2006 16:08 |
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Posted: Friday July 14th, 2006 02:43 |
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BlackThought wrote: Sorry bro I forgot to add another note...
If you are going to be developing a software that requires Database, then I will recommend you stick to Access... and Myql is not so great for deployement.
How good are you at PHP scripting language on a scale of 1 to 100? I currently am having problem with a php script thats not doing what is supposed to be doing such as displaying html form on a web browser and viewing the result on a browser. Can you help?
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Posted: Friday August 4th, 2006 21:49 |
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Right, im a guy who likes to learn about things. Now, I know how to use a computer and different applications etc but im interested to know WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOT ON ABOUT?
Please can one of you guys tell me what these, php, mysql, asp etc things are? Ive heard about them before but didnt have the time to research and now I have. I would look it up myself but I feel ill get an explination I will understand better from one of you guys so I can then advance from there.
Please can one of you school me.
Ima at my desk 5 mins early for class.
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Posted: Saturday August 5th, 2006 19:51 |
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mysql is a database system. It manages the "tables" of information that you define and create.
php is a programming language, it would be used to send requests for data to mysql in what is called
SQL == Structured Query Language
This has become a kind of standard that various databse packages use to understand information requests. I haven't read anything about ASP but I assume it is another language that can get the info from a database and present it on the screen or print it as desired.
A database needs to be designed for a particular application. Suppose you had a big hardware store and carried 3,000 items but could special order another 7,000. You would need an inventory and order tracking system with descriptions, prices, costs, locations, vendor names, etc., etc. mysql could do all that but it wouldn't display stuff on the screen the way you might prefer. PHP would handle the user interface part. You could have ten computers around your store running PHP all networked to a server running mysql accessing the database sending the requested info to each computer.
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Posted: Monday August 7th, 2006 18:53 |
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RRRRIIGHT! ok Thanks for that, much appreciated,
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Posted: Thursday August 17th, 2006 20:41 |
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Out of the two - I'd say PHP is the easiest to learn
Make sure you download the PHP Manual - has description of all the functions and an example of how to use them!!
Its quite straightforward - especially if you've done some programming before!!
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