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Posted: Tuesday May 3rd, 2005 18:29 |
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I'm an IT professional working in a boring role. I nearly lost my job at the start of the year. This encouraged me to get qualified and be the best I can be. I admit I've been lazy and been happy to do enough to get paid !! I know of some people who have been made redundant and have got their mcse in 2 months !!
Are you content in your job (Are you learning or are you stuck in a rut) ?
Do you plan to be an expert in your field (possibily opening businesses etc)?
Are you happy just to get paid (Do you think it hard to move jobs or better the devil you know) ?
My experience made me realise I'm just a number and I can have a better career if I apply myself.
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 10:59 |
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Well I always need more money, so I am happy to keeping learning, which is what I have been doing. I also hate doing the same thing over and over, which can be boring. I try to move and also try different things, use different tools, the more you know the better it becomes. I don't want to stay with the same company for more than 3 years, I rather go somewhere else and try something new.
What I have learned is that when you have the oppurnity to learn news things, do it as you may need it in the future. Eg. I don't know how to use MAC, but I had an oppurtunity to learn it at my work, but I thought I probably not apply for a job where they want someone with mac experience, but after I left the place and I was looking for a Job, I saw a brilliant job where they want a competent mac user, that obvously ruled me out, I have learned my lessons, if I have the chance I would learn anything even if I don't really like it.
At my work place, they like people who are keen to learn, want to learn new things. We have those types that knows one thing and they are quite content with that, doing the same thing over and over, but they probably don't move to higher positions, they are just happy. Me, I don't want that, I have friends contracting and are getting good money, I look forward to doing that in the near future, but you have to know lots of things so that you are quite flexible. That invovles you knowing lots of things, ie Testing, development, configuration, database............. things like that will help.
The last project I worked on was developed using C# .net, I don't know .net, but I have shown great interest and I am learning it at the moment. Now, I have moved to another project which is Oracle developement environment. I will be using TOAD, Winrunner and some other tools. That is what I want, learning differnent things, not just one thing which I know well. I mean it is good to have an area where you are an expert, but try to learn some other things.
If you know a lot of things, or you try to do more things, even if you are made redundant, it would be easy to get another job. The more I know, the more money I would get in the future. That simple logic keeps me motivated
@Mos- Just out of interest, what exactly do you do?
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 12:03 |
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Saint wrote: Well I always need more money, so I am happy to keeping learning, which is what I have been doing. I also hate doing the same thing over and over, which can be boring. I try to move and also try different things, use different tools, the more you know the better it becomes. I don't want to stay with the same company for more than 3 years, I rather go somewhere else and try something new.
What I have learned is that when you have the oppurnity to learn news things, do it as you may need it in the future. Eg. I don't know how to use MAC, but I had an oppurtunity to learn it at my work, but I thought I probably not apply for a job where they want someone with mac experience, but after I left the place and I was looking for a Job, I saw a brilliant job where they want a competent mac user, that obvously ruled me out, I have learned my lessons, if I have the chance I would learn anything even if I don't really like it.
At my work place, they like people who are keen to learn, want to learn new things. We have those types that knows one thing and they are quite content with that, doing the same thing over and over, but they probably don't move to higher positions, they are just happy. Me, I don't want that, I have friends contracting and are getting good money, I look forward to doing that in the near future, but you have to know lots of things so that you are quite flexible. That invovles you knowing lots of things, ie Testing, development, configuration, database............. things like that will help.
The last project I worked on was developed using C# .net, I don't know .net, but I have shown great interest and I am learning it at the moment. Now, I have moved to another project which is Oracle developement environment. I will be using TOAD, Winrunner and some other tools. That is what I want, learning differnent things, not just one thing which I know well. I mean it is good to have an area where you are an expert, but try to learn some other things.
If you know a lot of things, or you try to do more things, even if you are made redundant, it would be easy to get another job. The more I know, the more money I would get in the future. That simple logic keeps me motivated
@Mos- Just out of interest, what exactly do you do?
At the moment I'm doing mostly desktop support - supporting on-site and remote users. Occasionaly Server and Cisco work. The work is easy and I'm not stretching myself, it is very routine. I have my own site to manage but the Head Office like to keep control of the interesting work!! At the moment I'm studying for my MCSE 2003 and will aim for the CCNA.
I notice you're a developer - Have you skills outside that area like networking skills?
Thanks for the advice its been encouraging to be honest I looked at my Cv the other - it didn't look good. I'm glad I'm in a job rather than looking for one !! Though I will upgrade my qualifications and Cv in the coming months
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 13:23 |
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@Saint...... Hmmmmm so you use C aswell... is it C++ or the raw C itself.... I am currently using C++... so much to do.... but I want to focus more on writing dlls.... what aspect are of C are you specialised in.
@Mo.... as for me I can actually say I pretty much enjoy my work... I am doing software developing.... pays well and ppl there are cool.... been doing it for 2 years and still don't feel the need to change as of yet.... although I do other things on the side... like building websites and learning other things.... probably more like a back-up
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 14:21 |
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@MOS wrote: I notice you're a developer - Have you skills outside that area like networking skills?
I knew that from the way I talked in my last post, I talked as if I was a developer, not quite there yet, I have been a web developer in past, but I am a tester. At the momemt, I do more technical things, not just testing............but doing some database work.
Well I have some networking skills, I did a lot of configuration work in my last job, I did the configuration and administration of users so as to have access to all the files needed to do the testing. Things like adding a domain, setting user right etc. Of course not into details like a proper helpdesk support. I do home networking as well, although with the aid of opensource software, it has become easier, but can still be difficult atimes eg networking Linux and a window machine.
Abissinia is another person that is doing a similar thing to what you are doing.
@Blackthought wrote: @Saint...... Hmmmmm so you use C aswell... is it C++ or the raw C itself.... I am currently using C++... so much to do.... but I want to focus more on writing dlls.... what aspect are of C are you specialised in.
Hi Blackthought, my bad............. I don't use C. Hmm didn't like all the pointer stuff, c is not bad, but I don't know c++. I know Java, I haven't done it in a while, I am working as a Tester. I am hoping to move into development later this year, I am learning .net though, I think .net is what every will be using in the years to come, so that is why I have left Java and I am learning .net. C# is very similar to java.
I know people will still be using all these languages, but a lot of companies will migrate to .net. People still program using Fortran, but the companies that do this are very few.
Testing is not bad, but can be quite repetitive and boring at times, development has always been the area where I aim to get to, but when I start it, I wouldn't want to do it for too many years, I would like to move to bigger things like TA or BA or even Project Management.
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 15:19 |
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@Saint I hear you on that bro.... thats my plan too.... however I still wouldn't mind sticking around developement side of things........ so hopefully managing a team of programmers......... or just senior programmer is what I am aiming for.
And who knows maybe one day..... run my own company 
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Posted: Wednesday May 4th, 2005 16:26 |
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@BT wrote : And who knows maybe one day..... run my own company
Ditto here
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Posted: Thursday May 12th, 2005 16:05 |
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| How is my IT career? Hmmm... will let you know when it actually starts. That's the sh*t thing about leaving uni... trying to get that foot in the door.
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Posted: Friday May 13th, 2005 22:28 |
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untitled wrote: How is my IT career? Hmmm... will let you know when it actually starts. That's the sh*t thing about leaving uni... trying to get that foot in the door.
What area are you trying to get in?
What are your skills ?
Maybe can help you get an opening.....
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Posted: Saturday May 14th, 2005 19:47 |
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| I'm currently working on a project and need an expert programmer of Visual basic 6 to help. My project is due in for 20th May 2005 please contact me on danielalpha@hotmail.co.uk ASAP. If i dont finish it NO university this year somebody plz help me .
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Posted: Sunday May 15th, 2005 08:40 |
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I work as a UNIX admin. It is okay work, and I have learned a lot since I have had this job. I've had several different sysadmin jobs over the past several years, and of course I learned a lot in each of those jobs as well. The main thing about being in IT is that to advance in your field, you will have to learn things on your own time. Otherwise you will miss out on many new advances in programming languages/techniques, software applications, operating systems, and technology in general. I have done this by building a home network of machines (it is a mix of Linux and FreeBSD) to handle various tasks (firewall, fileserver, workstation, dev box, etc.). Most home users don't need this complex of a network, but being a computer geek  I am obligated to do things the hard way. I also get a lot of experience by running my own web/mail/etc. server. (FreeBSD is cool.  )
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