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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 09:31 |
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What are the things one need to think about before building and uploading a website?
Is there an average amount of pages?
What sort of legal information would a website require if you are selling stuff?
What should the look be; are there fashions in web designs - if so, how does one find out the latest look?
I once heard people could use post-it type notes to work out the design. How does that work?
How many people does it take to build a professional website?
If specific information is required could one copy straight from a book? I shouldn't think so, but how else is one suppose to get expert data?
Any other information needed?
Thx! :-)
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 10:31 |
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| Athaba, is the website for business use or personal use?
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 11:09 |
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Athaba... building website is like a hobby for me... looking to start my freelance website soon.... wouldn't mind it as my main income... but I am already working so I kinda of do it when I get free time......blah blah
Enough of my ranting.... bottom line is..... if you need any info or help.... then I can point you in the right direction and give any advice ....
But like free mentioned.. you need to be more specific....
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 11:39 |
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Hi there!
Suppose it was for both?
Does it make a difference?
If it does, then business first please.
Thx.
@BP So building websites can be a hobby then? Does that mean one can have loads of websites? What would they all say???
Isn't there something about domain names? Don't know how that works - is that the one where you pay somebody per month to keep the name? If so, isn't that a bit odd - paying for our own name????
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 11:46 |
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It helps to know HTML, but if you don't there websites that give you important portions of code you can use.
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 12:09 |
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athaba wrote: Hi there!
Suppose it was for both? ..... It really depends.. on the type of Business... and what type of personal content you are willing to put out there about urself..
Does it make a difference?
If it does, then business first please.
Their are different theme/concept of website... depending on the type of business i.e. if its about music... then the main theme of the website is going be music orientated...
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@BP So building websites can be a hobby then? Its only a hobby for me I don't know about other people, but some of my friends like that too.... I like Graphic designing and programming so maybe thats why I enjoy doing it..
Does that mean one can have loads of websites? What would they all say???
You can have as many website as you want (its like a template to show potenial client.. what you can do.. just like some artist have different pitures/drawing to show there diversity)
I know some ppl.. who do different version of there PERSONAL website.... every 6 months or so.... simply becuase they get bored or want to display show their creativity and skills...
Isn't there something about domain names? Don't know how that works - is that the one where you pay somebody per month to keep the name?
Domain name is like business name (the name might be available to register or someone might have already register that name)..... also you can shop around for the domain name of your choice from different website.... some of them are quite cheap and some are expensive... some do packages aswell....
also its import to note that based on the domain you prefer.. prices will defer... e.g. athaba.co.uk will probably cost £5.99 for 2 years whilst athaba.com wil cost £17.99 for 2years.... you can renew the name every 2years or so... depending on how long you by the name for.
After this you then need a HOST... when you have purchase your domain name... you can shop around for any host company....
If so, isn't that a bit odd - paying for our own name????
Its sounds odd.. but technically its not.... think of it like the concept of phone numbers.... don't forget that when you type in blackchat.co.uk (really the computer convert them into unique numbers just like you mobile/hous number).
Hope this makes it a bit more clearer..... anyway if you feel not publicise your business idea... then p.m I can give you some concepts....
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 12:18 |
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If there is a website that is online already that has a similar concept to your idea have a look at them. Look at a minimum of five, play around and evaluate the pros and cons of each site. Rip apart the website, critique it and think of the functionality that you do not like e.g to slow, page design, font, colour.
Have friends/family look at the sites that you liked to offer a second opinion; and see if they have any observations about the site that they want to add.
If you do not now how to design a site using the programming languages... don't even think about doing it yourself. It will take ages and if you want a professional finish get someone who knows what they are doing.
Try and get some sketches or use a word processing program to make mock versions of the way that you would like the site to look.
When you have done the site - do not open on a large scale... better to have a test group, have a look at the site and evaluate it then if there are any modifications to make you can do them in the early stages. It is much harder to overhaul a website when there are few users.
Get someone to read hard copies of the information that you are going to put on the site, there is nothing worse than looking at a well designed site where the stuff written down is crap.
Also if your website is known as being rubbish there will be no way to increase website traffic. A bad reputation is hard to shake
When designing the website try to stick to plain neutral colours, because it adds to the overall presentation and if it looks bad people won't want to use it.
P.S For legal information in regard to selling things go to http://www.businesslink.com they will have all the information that you require for retail business.
Have you done a business plan and do you know who/what your compettition is?
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 12:24 |
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 16:05 |
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@taysense
About three/four years ago, I was learning from a book about html and I got the general gist of it. I think I used notepad. Anyway, I only managed to get as far as seeing a title and a few nonsense paragraphs, but it was really exciting seeing even that!
I'd probably faint from seeing an actual website of mine lol!
@BT
I never knew about the information you gave, and thanks about the domain names what you said, really made sense so a big thank you again, to you too!
@free
I perused the weblink you gave and it was really informative. I had not had time to read in great detail yet, but so far, I gathered that the legal side of it must not be that different from real-life. But it does seem a bit more riskier.
I actually like the look of that website too. It gives clear links, correct headings, well-written, easy on the eye, uncluttered and best of all I feel as though I can really trust the information given from the site as it was un-sensational and business like. Just gave the right amount of info. Although having said that, more detail could be given in some quraters.
You say we must not even try to build a website on our own, if we haven't a clue - that 's me! But could you say why? Is it that it would certainly be bad?
Are there any insurance companies that cover businesses in case of things going wrong. From the top of my head things like bad transactions, for example bounced cheques, returned faulty goods etc?
The contents of your post is duly noted - especially about building the right reputation! Thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 16:35 |
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Hey Athaba,
If you are on a tight schedule and you want to build a website properly - get someone else. The reason why is that HTML, DHTML, CSS, Flash take time to learn properly.
Also, if you make an error in programming it can be costly to fix, or mean that you will spend hours on end trying to unravel the mistake... whereas someone who is more au fait could find the error in a matter of minutes.
Speaking to a web designer will mean that they can tell you straight away what is possible and what is impossible, in terms of costing, webhosting, and whether what you are asking for is achievable.
So, if you want to experiment and you are using the site as a means of learning programming languages and testing your web design capabilities - then go ahead. Other wise don't bother, no disrespect to the craft but web designers are ten a penny and you can easily find a designer at a compettive price... so if you don't have to do it yourself, why bother?
In anything if you leave the design to someone else it leaves you more time to develop your business plan, and work on marketing... so it will stop you spreading yourself too thin.
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 16:56 |
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A online shopping site is a very complicated thing and it has to be very secure if it is going to handle peoples money. You might be better off using free software as a framework for your site.
Heres one example:-
http://www.oscommerce.com/
Not sure if its any good, but it was the first link in google. Have a hunt around and see what you can find.
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 18:00 |
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Hey Nicky babe!
Thanks for the link.
Thanks free - you're right there does seem to be a lot of web designers about. But I thought they'd be really expensive.
Do you know what the going rate may for a web designer may be?
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Posted: Tuesday April 12th, 2005 19:53 |
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Thinking further ahead, how does one googlelize a website, (meaning how does one get a website on to a search engine)?
I think I read somewhere that you have to pay to get it into top positions. Is this true?
Doesn't that sound like bribery?
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Posted: Wednesday April 13th, 2005 08:45 |
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athaba wrote: all
Thinking further ahead, how does one googlelize a website, (meaning how does one get a website on to a search engine)?
http://www.google.co.uk/services/websearch.html
After you have created your website.... simply go to the google link and submit your URL... which is the website name.... along with descriptions etc.
There
I think I read somewhere that you have to pay to get it into top positions. Is this true?
Yeah there are some website that does that... not sure about googles.. but I think Lycos use to do it....
Doesn't that sound like bribery?
Errmmm babes this is business .... simple..... its just like the LOOT newspaper.... you have have free ads... but if you want extra space and people to notice you more... then you are going to have to pay for.
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Posted: Sunday April 24th, 2005 00:15 |
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@ Athaba.
To start with when building a website why not try a program with WYSIWYG.There several what they call WYSIWYG programs that need no knowledge of HTML.The initials mean "what you see is what you get"
The one that I was advised to get hold of is Netobjects fusion MX,Netobjects have a range of programs but this one is free and can be found on Magazine covers sometimes.I know because I got it from PC Advisor back issues for a few pound a while ago.
Hope that will be of some help.
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Posted: Sunday April 24th, 2005 17:39 |
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Geoff wrote: @ Athaba.
To start with when building a website why not try a program with WYSIWYG.There several what they call WYSIWYG programs that need no knowledge of HTML.The initials mean "what you see is what you get"
The one that I was advised to get hold of is Netobjects fusion MX,Netobjects have a range of programs but this one is free and can be found on Magazine covers sometimes.I know because I got it from PC Advisor back issues for a few pound a while ago.
Hope that will be of some help.
Geoff
Thanks for that Geoff.
I was mainly after trying to get an idea for the content of a website - whether there are any specific things to consider.
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