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Posted: Sunday September 28th, 2003 00:59 |
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A black American friend told me a while ago that - in his opinion - black women are the (ahem, shall we say) largest of all women, in the US at least.
Is this true? And is it something we should be worried about?
Maybe some scientific research needs to be done on this.
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Posted: Monday September 29th, 2003 11:49 |
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I can't speak for ALL people of African descent but most AfroAmerican women are made stockier and more stout than average.
They also have deeper voices.
 ....Because of how we were bred to be the biggest and strongest slaves hundreds of years ago (having the most testosterone), AfroAmericans are the biggest, strongest, toughest, and most ill-tempered of the ethnic groups in America.
That, combined with the fact that on the boat-ride over here only the strongest and those with the most energy reserves were able to make it alive genetically programmed us to have the most strength and size of any.
That's not saying ALL AfroAmericans are huge or strong but on average both men AND women are bigger and stronger.
But if your point is about obesity....
I think the world likes to stereotype and generalize about AfroAmericans too much while not paying enought attention to HISPANIC Americans.
Damn near every Mexican-American (chicana) woman over 20 I see is short and fat. Yet I NEVER hear about how obesity is affecting and claiming the lives of Chicana women or how fat THEY are, or the Native Americans, or Hawiaaian, or Samoans.
Chicanos and Native Americans percentage wise are the fattest people in America but everytime there's a study done on race and obesity I rarely hear them being mentioned. They alway show our plump big-butt sistaz.
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Posted: Monday September 29th, 2003 11:58 |
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| nothing to worri bout just put the women on diest end of story lol
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Posted: Tuesday September 30th, 2003 03:12 |
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| Why should anything be done about it? Beautiful sister come in all shapes and sizes! Why does every Egghead think that women must comform to one type?
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Posted: Tuesday September 30th, 2003 05:38 |
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| Hey man i like big women
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Posted: Tuesday September 30th, 2003 09:01 |
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I agree that people of all shapes and sizes are beautiful But....It is also important to be healthy.Our body is the temple of the soul so therefore should be cared for and respected.I understand that because of genetic heritage some people will be larger than others, but if you cut out the toxic rubbish fast food that a lot of people live on it would make a Big difference.Yes those genetically larger people would still be Large, but not Obese. It seems that young people are developing a type of diabetes now once only seen in elderly people. Also people are suffering from heart attacks and strokes So much younger now than they ever did before in history of man. Also, some obese people who suddenly need surgery are having to lose two or three stone in weight before a surgeon will even operate on them. It seems such a crime that one part of the planet is dying of starvation, and another is dying of obesity! We are a strange kind of animal really.We will just keep eating and eating all the time that food is there despite the fact that true Hunger is not the issue.
To get back to the issue...I think what is of true beauty is a person who is Healthy and Fit despite what their vital statistics may be.
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Posted: Wednesday October 1st, 2003 00:20 |
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| apologies for this but the poster "SL" is a troll from a certain far-right board, please be aware of him and his reasons for posting here.
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Posted: Wednesday October 1st, 2003 02:09 |
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 Black women all the way for me but not too big.
As long as the sweep goes up the chimney pot I'm happy  Last edited on Friday October 3rd, 2003 04:15 by Raven
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Posted: Thursday October 2nd, 2003 02:04 |
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Thanks Markee, us bigger women needs appriciation and love too. It makes me happy when I see a man stand up and show his love for the big beautiful girl!
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Posted: Thursday October 2nd, 2003 02:13 |
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Locsgirl, I respect your opinion but the diseases you have mentioned also effects the thinest of the thin. I just get tired of some people knocking people because they are heavy. I mean insulting, ridiculing and downright bashing someone for his weight. I think one of the worst forms of bashing a larger person is beating him/her to death with ever handy "Healthy Stick"!
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Posted: Friday October 3rd, 2003 01:32 |
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@Spice
This is more than my opinion Spice, its a scientific/medical fact. Obesity is a killer. Of course thin people can get diabetes but not the kind they;re finding in very young but obese people. Listen, I made it plain that I see beauty in all shapes and sizes.As for the Health stick...well I just assume people love life and want to stay in it long as possible. In my profession I see once healthy people killing themselves on alcohol or drugs.Then they come along when its nearly too late and seek to repair the damage done.Then I see people who dont abuse themselves fighting for their life with a terminal illness. The subject matter was Big Black Women....I was just adding another dimension to the discussion.I was not being Fat Phobic!
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 14:51 |
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I am black american, and sistah's over here in america are all shapes and sizes, just as with any other people.
Over here there are too many fast food places which contributes to a lot of obese people, blacks whites, mexicans etc. Bad habits don't discriminate.. I do agree with the person who said we may be stronger because of the results of slavery, survival of the fittest...
I myself ..am thick, not fat not skinny, I like my big breast ..my big butt..my thick nose...my kinky hair...etc..I love it when I walk into a room and my kings greet me with love by smiling, or just staring..so kisses to the men who realize the beauty in us all
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 14:58 |
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in reply to "ill-tempered"
we are not that way because of our breeding, but because of the way this country treats us..we built this place and we are still not really free.. equal rights is still a dream in my opinion..
there are some freedoms, that have been given, but we had to fight like hell to have them, then they are still not what is owed to us.
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 16:50 |
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Of Locsgirl I agree with Locsgirl (we even think the same)
In many cases people hide behind obesity(America obese city )to cover up other personal psychological
problems. I believe if someone truly wants to lose weight
(only they will know) they should,if its only for the sake of health,but too many people try fail and to feel better about
it build a story around why they dont. eg. society Rah Rah...
Most of us do not live our full potential but a life of fear
manufactured by society, we can actually achieve anything we
want to achieve with the right mental attitude, i would not
buy into the excuses that some!people use to
remain this way, i'd rather point to the fact that they are
settling for what they think is their only option, a case of
fat becomes you. A black woman I know recently lost
100 pounds in a few months,me I put on weight and lose
weight at random as I see fit. If big is your desire I
say cool but if you dont wanna be then self discipline
can be used to get the required result.
On must be true with oneself to know Thyself.
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 20:06 |
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@Hesaid!
Hi baby x
Yeah everyone blaming all these fast food joints, and even having the cheek to try sueing them because they made them fat and ill! What kind of madness is this? Yeah we got as many fast food outlets in my town as anywhere else, but I dont have to use them. Same as smoking. How dare anyone these days have the cheek to sue a tobacco company because they;ve developed lung cancer? Madness!!!
Seems to me a lot of people take more care of their cars than they do their health. Our body is the only one we get in this lifetime. Its an incredible highly complex intelligent machine, and we would all do well to nourish and care for it.
While I was walking on the beach this morning I met a woman I know from my daughters school. She was power walking too. I always notice this woman, though before today we had never spoken. She is a very attractive woman, has a large muscular physique and very healthy glow about her. I;ve always noticed how this woman Shines. We stopped for a moment at the same place to admire the sea. She told me she is doing her midwifery degree, and that recently her class tested each others blood pressure. She said hers was the lowest in the class, even though she happens to be the oldest member. My parents are both on blood pressure tablets, and the side effects from their medication are worse than the condition.
Like I said before I dont seek to crticise anyone on body shape. I know very large women who do look sexy. But good health and being fit is as sexy as it gets.
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 20:08 |
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Hesaid!
By the way honey...Hope you keeping off those fish fingers!!! 
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Posted: Tuesday October 14th, 2003 20:12 |
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SL wrote:
Is this true? And is it something we should be worried about?
Well if ur talking health wise then yes, everybody knows that if ur over weight or obese that you are more prone to diseases and illnesses, but saying that also anerexic people are also prone too. A good stable 'healthy' diet should help promote a better lifestyle.
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Posted: Wednesday October 15th, 2003 04:13 |
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Cuban Gyal wrote:
SL wrote:
Is this true? And is it something we should be worried about?
Well if ur talking health wise then yes, everybody knows that if ur over weight or obese that you are more prone to diseases and illnesses, but saying that also anerexic people are also prone too. A good stable 'healthy' diet should help promote a better lifestyle.
@Cuban Gyal
Yes that is true about anorexia, but again we are looking at extremes of behaviour, and (as in anorexia and bulimia) mental and emotional problems.
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Posted: Wednesday October 15th, 2003 07:35 |
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Whats up Bayyyybeee?
FISH FINGERS?
You wernt sposed to hear that!
It was for the Men, Ha Ha!!
I hear what your saying about sueing companies
s'not as if the warening dont say in big bold letters
SMOKING KILLS\
A mean...........
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 19:34 |
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I mean personally, I dont like FAT women...i have nothjing against them if they wanna be unhealthy then thats their look out . but not in my family please!!!
I used to go live with a Ghanaian Guy -Cushions Mabooma. He used to "love em big boom boom" Not me though I like to see what Im getting not treck across it!!!
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 19:45 |
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But Fat dont Always mean unhealthy! Some people are Big because they;re genetically programmed to be that way. I;ve even known some fat vegans, who still exercise and they are Healthy. I can understand if its your preference to not fancy Big Women, but dont assume they;re all unhealthy cos its just not true.
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 19:51 |
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But Fat dont Always mean unhealthy! Some people are Big because they;re genetically programmed to be that way. I;ve even known some fat vegans, who still exercise and they are Healthy. I can understand if its your preference to not fancy Big Women, but dont assume they;re all unhealthy cos its just not true.
Sing it again locsgirl, too right.
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 20:08 |
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You know what Sista, my thing about body image changed when I went to college to study massage. First time in my life I had to touch another woman;s body in that way. We had to practise on one another! I noticed how lovely the plumper girls were to the touch, all those curves and smooth skin. I understood for the first time how nice it must be for a man to nestle himself in and snuggle up to all that lovely warm flesh. I practised a lot at home on a couple of skinny friends of mine. It was not so nice. Though they were skinny, their flesh was not firm on their bones, and I noticed how much looser they were and boney! Our tutor actually advised us to find subjects for our exams who were at least a stone overweight, cos they;re the best ones to massage! Yeah Big Women can be Sexy and Healthy....Hear that Philgreg! 
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 20:44 |
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@Locsgirl
I have to agree with you there I studied Massage and reflexology for leisure purposes and I have to say in the classes when we had to practise I had to do a massage on this skinny lady. Locsgirl I felt so sick her head was so cold and lumpy and that long straight hair that I had to put my hands through. After 1 second I made an excuse that I wasn't feeling well I just couldn't do it, I COULDN'T  because I know this might sound silly to some but I joined the classes for my own personal pleasure and partner and that didn't include giving some white skinny lady a massage.
Fortunate for me a friend joined he is a barbar and wanted to add this service to his shop and we made a pack to always be each others partners for class exercise now his head felt so nice and firm and soft black hair that felt like cushions on my hand, sometimes I got so caught up in it even I started to doze off 
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 20:51 |
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~I have heard this kind of chat before....But sorry peeps fat aint healthy...fat adds extra pressure of your bones, it wears your joints qwuicker ...it clogs your arteries...and can lead to loads of health problems...
Im not hating on fatties...dont get me wrong...god I could lose a couple qof pounds you know ...but Fat isn't healthy...Do you ever see a fat Lion? No why cos it wouldn't be able to compete....Humans live in a disposable society so we can get fat and not die...
Ever see a fat sprinter...swimmer etc...no why...Cos fat aint healthy. i concede you can be fat and happy and im happy for anyone who is though!
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 21:05 |
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I suppose your arguement would be based on what you term as fat compared to others views. Some bodybuilders and weightlifters weight may come under the doctors measure og weight in comparison to height as being overweight but they are bodybuilders competing in that type of sport
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 21:14 |
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| No, they have muscle...muscle is ok fat is unhealthy.
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