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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 20:54 |
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No Girl Friday even though these posters may not agree with you, you are the one being disagreeable.
I mean how can you tell a man what his erection is about if you are not that man? Men on here are telling you that all erections are NOT related to sexual thoughts. Instead of hearing that you ignore them completely.
Almost every man wakes up in the morning with an erection. Most men get an erection when they have to urinate very badly. A lot of men get an erection for no good reason at all. Many men will tell you of erections they have gotten that have come out of no where and they could not get to go down and were embarrassed the whole time.
So the point is..... how as a person without a penis can you tell a person with a penis what an erection means? I know you can say that you read a book or talked to a sex advisor, but if you do not have a penis or the owner of that penis, how do you or anyone for that matter know what is behind the cause of the erection?
True there are a lot of pedophiles out there, always has been and always will be, BUT judging someone on an erection? Heck if that was the case, my wife would have divorced me years ago, but she has the WISDOM from being with me for all these years that just because I have an erection does not mean that I am sexually aroused.
Still either way it goes, it sounds like this woman judged her husband on something that happened in the wife's past maybe from her father and is now set to protect her daughter from the same thing. Many women do this, which is why I advise guys to stay away from sexually abused women until they get help or come to grips that their abuser is not one and the same.
If you knew men as much as you started this thread, you probably would have seen from his reactions that #1 he is embarrassed to even be accused of this and #2 is probably so angry and hurt about his wife acussing him of this he has no idea of what to say.
If he had been a sexual molester, I am sure he would have smooth talked his way back into this, but this dude at the least sounds hurt, angry and embarrassed because the ones he has sworn to protect have turned on him for something biologically he could not control.
Serioulsy, can you control your nipples from hardening when you get cold? What about if something rubbing them? Not sexually but just rubbing them and made the naturally harden with nothing sexual about this? Do you think it would be fair for your husband to think that you were becoming sexually excited because you were facing another man and he noticed your nipples getting hard? Can automatically think and make your nipples soften again?
Even you yourself had doubts about the man being attracted to his kid.
No one on here cares that you started a thread like this but I highly doubt that most men have an arousal from their daughters. Daughters are the one thing tht makes men think about sex in a highly negative way that as a woman that you could never understand....... WHich is why I said above most normal men never want to think of their daughter having sex with anyone even if she already has 10 kids.
You accuse Hakeem of being a sexual deviant, but the fact is that the men who stand up and protest like him are the men who would never think of their daughters in that way and are the first ones to stand up when this idea arises. It is the quiet ones you should be worried about.
Like I said there are many deviants out there, but 75% of men are not deviants when it comes to their daughters. Maybe you should research more to see where and of whom this percentage was taken...... I doubt the base that was used for this sampling was taken from a normal mixed group of people.....
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 21:09 |
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safetyblitz wrote: No Girl Friday even though these posters may not agree with you, you are the one being disagreeable.
I mean how can you tell a man what his erection is about if you are not that man? Men on here are telling you that all erections are NOT related to sexual thoughts. Instead of hearing that you ignore them completely.
Almost every man wakes up in the morning with an erection. Most men get an erection when they have to urinate very badly. A lot of men get an erection for no good reason at all. Many men will tell you of erections they have gotten that have come out of no where and they could not get to go down and were embarrassed the whole time.
So the point is..... how as a person without a penis can you tell a person with a penis what an erection means? I know you can say that you read a book or talked to a sex advisor, but if you do not have a penis or the owner of that penis, how do you or anyone for that matter know what is behind the cause of the erection?
True there are a lot of pedophiles out there, always has been and always will be, BUT judging someone on an erection? Heck if that was the case, my wife would have divorced me years ago, but she has the WISDOM from being with me for all these years that just because I have an erection does not mean that I am sexually aroused.
Still either way it goes, it sounds like this woman judged her husband on something that happened in the wife's past maybe from her father and is now set to protect her daughter from the same thing. Many women do this, which is why I advise guys to stay away from sexually abused women until they get help or come to grips that their abuser is not one and the same.
If you knew men as much as you started this thread, you probably would have seen from his reactions that #1 he is embarrassed to even be accused of this and #2 is probably so angry and hurt about his wife acussing him of this he has no idea of what to say.
If he had been a sexual molester, I am sure he would have smooth talked his way back into this, but this dude at the least sounds hurt, angry and embarrassed because the ones he has sworn to protect have turned on him for something biologically he could not control.
Serioulsy, can you control your nipples from hardening when you get cold? What about if something rubbing them? Not sexually but just rubbing them and made the naturally harden with nothing sexual about this? Do you think it would be fair for your husband to think that you were becoming sexually excited because you were facing another man and he noticed your nipples getting hard? Can automatically think and make your nipples soften again?
Even you yourself had doubts about the man being attracted to his kid.
No one on here cares that you started a thread like this but I highly doubt that most men have an arousal from their daughters. Daughters are the one thing tht makes men think about sex in a highly negative way that as a woman that you could never understand....... WHich is why I said above most normal men never want to think of their daughter having sex with anyone even if she already has 10 kids.
You accuse Hakeem of being a sexual deviant, but the fact is that the men who stand up and protest like him are the men who would never think of their daughters in that way and are the first ones to stand up when this idea arises. It is the quiet ones you should be worried about.
Like I said there are many deviants out there, but 75% of men are not deviants when it comes to their daughters. Maybe you should research more to see where and of whom this percentage was taken...... I doubt the base that was used for this sampling was taken from a normal mixed group of people.....
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 21:31 |
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girl friday wrote: Society is Sick!! Would you rather burry your head in the sand?! Turn a blind eye? What the hell is wrong with you? These are things We SHOULD know about!!
Yeah society is sick, but it can't hold a candle to you. Mayhap most men wouldn't admit to wanting to keep a distance from female children for this exact reason. I know in my own situation, I do not like to be in the company of females or small children alone, if they are not family. Because too many folks like you love to gossip. I don't know if the story is true or not. But one thing is for sure, you are here to start some sh!t.
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 22:01 |
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I having meaning to comment on this load of bollox, safety has said a lot what i wanted to say so i won't go over his ground, however i will register my personal disgust at the premise levelled in this thread...and the argument that somehow if i disagree with it that i must be a defacto pervert....sorry but thats taking the p.iss!!!
The bottom line is that I'm a father of THREE girls, i was there mother and father and i most certainly BATHED them without thinking of them as sexual beings...and if i bought into this horses.hit 75% them 3 out of my four brother would be peadophilles...sorry but that is just total crap!!!
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 22:07 |
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Kunjufu wrote: I have been meaning to comment on this load of bollox, safety has said a lot of what i wanted to say, so i won't go over his ground, however i will register my personal disgust at the premise levelled in this thread...and the argument that somehow if i disagree with it that i must be a defacto pervert....sorry but thats really taking the p.iss!!!
The bottom line is that I'm a father of THREE girls, i was their mother and father and i most certainly BATHED them without thinking of them as sexual beings...and if i bought into this horses.hit of 75%, then 3 out of my four brother would be peadophilles...sorry but that is just total crap!!!
Yeah, there is a culture that has a problem with pedophilia. And it ain't us.
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 01:12 |
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You give people a lot of credit.
That story isnt true.
Girlfriday (a highly suspicious choice of name by the way..), Got just one question for you.
As a kid, did your dad assist your mom to lighten some tasks she did regularly, say..for example give you a bath before going to school? And if he did, did he ever have a boner? You can extend the question to when you sat on laps and played (I am assuming he took time out to play with you).
How can you come here and say 75%, when a lot of us a men and have a circle that includes the demographics you speak of?
But hey, all this is assuming the story is true..
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 04:15 |
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Good point K. My first boy is 7 which I believe is good age for him to be washing himself properly. I'll supervise him washing himself and direct him but to physically scrub him up and down I think he's too old for that now....indeed more cases than none it's him with the boner....not to mention the two year old. Got a friend who girls were closer to him than the mother, when they started their periods they told him before the mother. How hands on in practical terms at that stage he was I couldn't say.
Even so, my man was a real gallis and last I heard had at least 8 kids so was probably around nuff women and their daughters to know or at least get advice from.
As far as the specifics of the opening post go, I think the gamut of dynamics which need to be considered is too much to make a generalising judgement. Changing my sons nappies they both had boners, what then, was I playing with their private parts to arouse myself or something? I can only suggest the woman in the thread subject knows this man more than we do or she is simply reflecting on her own childhood experience of being bathed which (probably quite innocently) may have introduced her to her own sensitivity to sex....and doesn't want her duaghter to come out the same way.
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 18:31 |
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| The way she titled the thread is sick. She states the thread like it's some fact. This girl is SICK.. not even right man, it's just nasty and sick. She has OBVIOUSLY been through this type of torment herself but there is no need to come on here and vent her frustration like that... she needs to go see a doctor or something
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 21:16 |
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in da past i've had to wash my cousin of 8years for the reason being because she couldn't scrub right. i had 2 show her how 2 bath coz i'm a cleanliness person and i care about my baby cousin.
it did occur that i had a boner whilst scrubbing her with a soft sponge, and showing her how to bath right. i think this is an important topic that people shy away from often or don't wanna talk about in the open. but i'll bring to light the experience and the reasons behind it, that don't include perversion!!
in no way was there any intention of sexual gratification or stimulation. BUT, its not a good idea to generalise the belief that because men would likely in sum instances, have aboner whilst washing their kids/clothing 'em mean dat they are perverted.
erections are involuntary and can happen anywhere anytime. but in this case of bathing children, shud men or fathers not be allowed their duty of raising their child becuase she's female and he's male and because he might have an erection and may assault her indecently?? THAT'S UNREASONABLE!!
A man who aint the child's father has no right to bath them, unless they are apart of that family or are authorised and have the authority to do so.
A girl/ boy shud be trained 2 wash themself at a young age until they reach a fairly reasonable level when they can do it themself. And if they can bath or clean theirself right then a ''RESPONSIBLE'' adult has to teach them.
Adding to this topic. The point people missed out was that, it takes a 4 year old girl 2 stir up a craze about a tendency that is common in men and has been since da beginning of time. Its a natural occurrence!! But it becomes a crime, if that occurrence is used to take advantage of a minor..then you have child sexual abuse!!
Both men and women have times when their sexual reproductive organs get stimulated spontaneously and I'm sure some women at a certain point in their life have bathed a boy child and been stimulated. **It just will never be heard of because no one wants those type of skeletons, related 2 a minor, being exposed!!**
DO PEOPLE FEEL IT'S WRONG 4 MEN 2 WASH THEIR DAUGHTERS?? Isn't a part of their duty to clean, wash, and cloth their offspring disregard to their gender? They share a role to raise their child.
What I DO believe, is that men or fathers should STOP bathing their daughters or sons when those children learn how to do it themself, and to do it right. That's fairly a reasonable thing. I won't stand a child at doesn't scrub right, to take the dirt off their skin. Because as a black person, we absorb more heat and sweat more, therefore have more to clean. it doesn't mean that white persons aren't like us. Its just that they can not clean 4 a couple of days and go unnoticed because their skin is white. U understand wat am trying 2 say?
FINAL WORDS: I believe also that this topic raises the question of ''child policy''? But that question has been answered and its by the use of common sense, not uncompromising accusations!!
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 21:20 |
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All posters going forward are required to speak English. If you want to talk using ebonics please have fun on blackplanet........
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 22:27 |
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@girlfriday: I took offense to reading this but was even more disappointed to see you accuse some of our brothers of having peadophile interests because they too didn't like reading it. That's a huge insult and I think you owe Jim999 and Prince Hakeem an apology.
The choice is yours.
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 22:32 |
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safetyblitz wrote: All posters going forward are required to speak English. If you want to talk using ebonics please have fun on blackplanet........
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 22:36 |
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| LOL Just realized what you meant safety. For some reason JLo and LL come to mind!
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 22:41 |
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Reading through this thread, I can't help but noticed the overwhelming use of one word that sticks out like a sore thumb. The word boner is used here so much, that I am afraid if one were to google the word boner; it would definately pull up Blacknet and this topic.
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Posted: Friday May 18th, 2007 17:25 |
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fort5 wrote:
it did occur that i had a boner whilst scrubbing her with a soft sponge, and showing her how to bath right. i think this is an important topic that people shy away from often or don't wanna talk about in the open. but i'll bring to light the experience and the reasons behind it, that don't include perversion!!
You see.. no matter how much you write, I cant get past that one line above..... SEEMS SICK TO ME!!!! Sorry but I cant understand the justification for it. Especially as you read what most men on here had to say... it doesnt happen to the vast majority.
btw... why cant your cousin's mum teach her child how to bathe herself RIGHT?????????
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Posted: Friday May 18th, 2007 17:36 |
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| Ms Nellia surely you're not naive enough to not realisa that fort5 is girlfriday posing as a man to justify this silly thread...
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Posted: Friday May 18th, 2007 19:20 |
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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Posted: Friday May 18th, 2007 21:10 |
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@Watcher
In the back of my mind I was saying the same thing, but decided to give shim the benefit of the doubt.
Kinda sad really if you are right.
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Posted: Monday May 21st, 2007 06:37 |
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Wow, another thread demonising men, well I've never. You'd think this was the BBC.
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Posted: Friday May 25th, 2007 06:48 |
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hey by law its child abuse under sexual... simple if a person recieves sexual gratification, in a child presence is sexual abuse.
reguardless if it was intended or not...
unfortunatly as people we cant always control all our bodily functions 24 ours a day. for what ever reason this man had an erection... he could have been thinking bout something or some1 (day dreaming etc) it wasnt nessesarily the child.
it can happen to women im sure but its un seen so they get away with bare sh*t in dat department (i am a woman, i believe this is so)
but if the woman believed it was the child that aroused him.. she should have ridded him because if.. and im using if... later she had found that he did eventually abuse or or was abusing her she would probably kill her self because thats what she believed in the 1st place...
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