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Posted: Sunday April 29th, 2007 00:02 |
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Wednesday, 18 April 2007
by Mark P. Fancher
 
The notion that Don Imus was somehow inspired by African American culture to casually refer to Black female athletes as "nappy-headed hoes" amounts to an inversion of history. White racism and male chauvinism shaped the image of Black females - and males. For centuries, this culture countenanced mass rape of Black women and emasculation of Black men. Unfortunately, this culture has also influenced the thinking and behavior of some segments of Black America - an internalization of self-hatred. But make no mistake about the root cause of the pathology: a horrific history of dehumanization of African Americans of both sexes.
African Women, White Men, Sex and Don Imus
by Mark P. Fancher
"It is no longer enough to simply point fingers at rap artists whose lyrics reference ‘hos' and ‘b**ches' and somehow imply that Imus was inspired by African youth."FancherFlav
It is likely that on countless street corners throughout America, young Africans continue to ponder with great bewilderment how a crusty old racist with a radio show caused the national spotlight to focus on them and what they believe to be their music. Imus's vile pronouncement that the women of Rutgers' basketball team are "nappy-headed hos" triggered expected condemnation from "Black Leadership." But like a tornado that first wreaks havoc on a trailer park and then skips gingerly across several miles of grasslands before causing more destruction in a distant location, the leaders' criticism moved swiftly from Imus, landed at Hip-Hop's door, and lingered there.
The misogyny and self-loathing racial references of Hip-Hop are indefensible, and "Black Leadership's" instincts were on target. However, Africans in America find themselves in a moment when the struggles for liberation, human rights and justice demand that every blow that a "leader" strikes for the people enjoy the benefit of informed analysis rooted in an accurate understanding of history. It is no longer enough to simply point fingers at rap artists whose lyrics reference "hos" and "b**ches" and somehow imply that Imus was inspired by African youth. Very basic questions must first be asked about whether Hip-Hop recordings released by mega entertainment corporations represent the honest expression of African youth culture, or whether they are instead products of white middle-aged executive male fantasies that have been tailored to appeal to the white, suburban teenaged demographic that accounts for more than three-quarters of all Hip-Hop music sales. Questions must then be ask ed about what drives the handful of young African "artists" who engage in Hip-Hop minstrelsy.
"The Imus affair is but a 21st Century manifestation of a white American pathology that has very deep historical roots."
Even the most cursory research reveals that the Imus affair is but a 21st Century manifestation of a white American pathology that has very deep historical roots. From the earliest days of their nightmarish, but nevertheless glorious sojourn in the western hemisphere, African women have been pegged as "hos" without any regard for their actual conduct. In a well-researched little book titled Ar'n't I a Woman?, historian Deborah Gray White described not only the experiences of African women on slave plantations, but also the attitudes held by white society. She wrote: "One of the most prevalent images of black women in antebellum America was of a person governed almost entirely by her libido, a Jezebel character."
White explained how proponents of the Jezebel idea used African dance styles, African women's sparse tropical clothing, and instances of polygamy as evidence of lust and lewdness. Victorian-era white women who dressed in layers of satin and lace looked with disdain on African women who tied their skirts around their upper thighs as they labored in water-filled rice fields. White men who took to routinely referring to African women as "wenches" convinced themselves that every African female they encountered looked upon them with lust. White quoted one white visitor to the antebellum south as stating: "...in almost every house there are negresses, slaves, who count it an honor to bring a mulatto into the world." This notion of black female sexuality became the foundation for an unspeakable history of mass rape. Countless enslaved African families endured the horror of having slave masters break into their homes and sexually assault a mother, or even pubescent and pre-pubescent dau ghters - sometimes as the family watched in helpless terror.
"The notion of black female sexuality became the foundation for an unspeakable history of mass rape."
There is much about the slave era that Africans themselves internalized. The word "N****r" became not only a derogatory word that accompanied acts of racial terrorism, but also a word long used by Africans themselves as a term of endearment. It is but one of numerous manifestations of self-hatred and a widely-shared inferiority complex. It is no wonder then that African men and many African women also internalized racist notions of black female sexuality.
While some might suggest that Hip-Hop misogyny is entirely home-grown, history indicates that the denigration of women is at odds with much of the culture of traditional Africa. For example, men not only recognized the genius of the Angolan queen, Nzinga, but also followed her into battle repeatedly in an ongoing war against the Portuguese. Likewise, the Ashanti Queen Mother Yaa Asantewa enjoyed universal respect, as did many other African queens. Among even the common folk, matrilineal succession was a distinct feature of certain traditional ethnic communities. As Africa's cultures were impacted by Arab and European influences, attitudes toward women changed. U.S. male chauvinism has certainly affected the attitudes of African males in America, including those who are willing to use the worst names for their sisters in recordings that they make for large corporations.
"U.S. male chauvinism has certainly affected the attitudes of African males in America."
While it is important to remain vigilant in the quest to purge Hip-Hop of its misogynist language, and racial self-hatred, it is perhaps most helpful to be armed with an analysis of its origins. The young brothers on the block who are puzzled about why they are being blamed for Don Imus's racism deserve a complete, informed explanation and not just finger-wagging condemnation.
Mark P. Fancher is an attorney, essayist and activist.
He can be contacted at mfancher@comcast.net
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Posted: Sunday April 29th, 2007 14:02 |
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In comparism to these virginal and pure yte women???please there is no reason that justifies that kind of disrespect and racism towards any black woman...
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@Prince Hakeem. This article is really good, do you think that some black women internalise these views aswell about being "wenches" and "jezebels". Some of them feel they are only good to be babymother/girlfriends not wives. The women in hip-hop video's are not forced to do what they do, but do they feel thats all they are good for?? The tipdrill video by Nelly is disgusting, a woman has a credit card swiped thru her ass cheeks.... Does she feel this is all she is worth??
The way some young black girls carry themselves is sad... These ideologies from slavery have been internalised by Black women, but some of them of them feel it is a good thing and dont even realise they are playing upto being hyper sexualised. Then you have old crusty greys like Robert De Niro saying to Jamelia "chocolate thing"..... and feel he is well within his right to do so. Because some women would see this as a compliment.
Black men have been emasuculated by having to watch black women being raped by white men in front of them. This perhaps is why there is so much misplaced anger that lands at the door of black women instead of at white men. Also I believe that some black men do not deal with black women as they feel less than men and simply cannot deal with them. They can act with non black women as these women want the stereotype of a black man ie the big dicked highly sexed black animal in bed and some of them are only happy to oblige this.
With a black woman they cant act or play a role, because we are them and they are us. They choose to run away from the reality that we know their weaknesses and what they have to face as a black man in this society.
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Posted: Thursday May 3rd, 2007 18:07 |
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: @Prince Hakeem. This article is really good, do you think that some black women internalise these views aswell about being "wenches" and "jezebels". Some of them feel they are only good to be babymother/girlfriends not wives. The women in hip-hop video's are not forced to do what they do, but do they feel thats all they are good for?? The tipdrill video by Nelly is disgusting, a woman has a credit card swiped thru her ass cheeks.... Does she feel this is all she is worth??
The way some young black girls carry themselves is sad... These ideologies from slavery have been internalised by Black women, but some of them of them feel it is a good thing and dont even realise they are playing upto being hyper sexualised. Then you have old crusty greys like Robert De Niro saying to Jamelia "chocolate thing"..... and feel he is well within his right to do so. Because some women would see this as a compliment.
Black men have been emasuculated by having to watch black women being raped by white men in front of them. This perhaps is why there is so much misplaced anger that lands at the door of black women instead of at white men. Also I believe that some black men do not deal with black women as they feel less than men and simply cannot deal with them. They can act with non black women as these women want the stereotype of a black man ie the big dicked highly sexed black animal in bed and some of them are only happy to oblige this.
With a black woman they cant act or play a role, because we are them and they are us. They choose to run away from the reality that we know their weaknesses and what they have to face as a black man in this society.
Sadly there are many African women who have internalised this kind of thinking. Look at female rappers like Lil Kim, Khia, Strings, Hoes with Atittude atc....these lot constantly refer to themselves as whores and b**ches let alone being called those names by their male counterparts.
African men have to take the lead, just like how we did when Hip Hop became Africentric - African women followed. It's like Common said, "out goes the weaves, in comes the braids, beads, medallions". That was during an era when we valued our women more than we did the spare change from the same music industry that dictates our own culture to US.
Hip Hop is an African artform with roots directly from West Africa and when it first formed it was all about the African family/community, but now it's been so b**tardised by the industry and by government agents such as 50 Cent, I don't know if it will ever recover. They say things go through cycles and stages, but I'm not optimistic about the future of Hip Hop at all.
We know the fallacious views of African women as whores stems from the Maafa, but europeans aren't going to be the ones to change that way of thinking. It has to come from the African community, particularly African men.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 11:58 |
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I too believe African men have to take the lead, thats the point I was trying to make in the forum about Marcus Bent. African men who are not like him and others need to take the lead to stand up and be counted otherwise you will look like fools and have grey women thinking they can take liberties with you....
Malcolm X also said it, until black women are respected by their own men and held up the same way white women are by their men, they will continue to be the most disrespected and put upon. All women deep down want to feel protected by their own men, no matter how much they might front like they dont. Some men need to step up and take charge, otherwise things will only go from bad to worse.
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 21:25 |
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: I too believe African men have to take the lead, thats the point I was trying to make in the forum about Marcus Bent. African men who are not like him and others need to take the lead to stand up and be counted otherwise you will look like fools and have grey women thinking they can take liberties with you....
Malcolm X also said it, until black women are respected by their own men and held up the same way white women are by their men, they will continue to be the most disrespected and put upon. All women deep down want to feel protected by their own men, no matter how much they might front like they dont. Some men need to step up and take charge, otherwise things will only go from bad to worse.
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
This is one luxury we will never have as too many Black men have signaled they want to through their weight be nonblack women.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 21:25 |
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: I too believe African men have to take the lead, thats the point I was trying to make in the forum about Marcus Bent. African men who are not like him and others need to take the lead to stand up and be counted otherwise you will look like fools and have grey women thinking they can take liberties with you....
Malcolm X also said it, until black women are respected by their own men and held up the same way white women are by their men, they will continue to be the most disrespected and put upon. All women deep down want to feel protected by their own men, no matter how much they might front like they dont. Some men need to step up and take charge, otherwise things will only go from bad to worse.
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
This is one luxury we will never have as too many Black men have signaled they want to throw their weight behind nonblack women.
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Let me qualify that I love black people...
But I am tired of the tired attitudes that we carry.
If more black males recognize that it does begin with them a change can be made but as long as a dollar can be made at the sista's expense he will go against it. The attitudes toward both sexes are skewed. There is an effort to get rid of the word N****r but there are as many blacks against doing that than for banning it. It doesn't make any sense. I really believe that there is a mass conditioning as well as apathy and a disconnectedness that we seem to favor. I do agree that these videos are just another form of ministrelism at our expense. If they can stop blaming everything on everyone else and just begin with themselves blacks can hold themselves to a higher standard and come together and help one another with less fragmentation and begin by believing in themselves and each other. If other races can do this so can we. The other races have their issues with each other too but you just don't see the negatism to the extent that it is in the black race. We actually make money disrespecting each other, what other race does that? No wonder other races do not respect us as a whole. All they have to do is sit back and watch us.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 18:00 |
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blackbutterfly182 wrote:
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
An agent is basically somebody who acts out on behalf of the powers that be....usually they're used by higher forces to spread contention within the African community - just like certain NOI members around the time of Malcolm X's death. It's a shame the film Panther isn't in circulation because it really showed how the government uses sellouts amongst us as pawns to sow seeds of discontention and unrest. I can't find the source right now, but 50 Cent has actually been told on many occasions to start beefs within the music industry. The deliberate message he spreads to African youth worldwide isn't just of his own doing, trust me on that one.
There was an article I read once about African agents which was a real eye opener. I will post it soon when I get the opportunity, but when you think about certain well known members in the public eye even in this country, you can just tell when they are being used by higher powers.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 20:31 |
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Rockette wrote: blackbutterfly182 wrote: I too believe African men have to take the lead, thats the point I was trying to make in the forum about Marcus Bent. African men who are not like him and others need to take the lead to stand up and be counted otherwise you will look like fools and have grey women thinking they can take liberties with you....
Malcolm X also said it, until black women are respected by their own men and held up the same way white women are by their men, they will continue to be the most disrespected and put upon. All women deep down want to feel protected by their own men, no matter how much they might front like they dont. Some men need to step up and take charge, otherwise things will only go from bad to worse.
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
This is one luxury we will never have as too many Black men have signaled they want to throw their weight behind nonblack women.
Only in comparison to "Black" women. Compare us to other males and we are the most loyal.
I am not making excuses. "Black" males can't afford to chase other women. But I do think most of us know that.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 17:23 |
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| @Prince Hakeem. Please try to find the article, sounds really interesting. Post it up on here or PM me. Thanks.
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: @Prince Hakeem. Please try to find the article, sounds really interesting. Post it up on here or PM me. Thanks.
Aiight.
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 15:19 |
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| Yo where's the article PH??
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 17:40 |
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Sorry, completely forgot. I lost the link ever since I cleaned out my hard drive.
I will pm someone on the assata board to see if they still have it.
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| I would love to see your "hard drive"!!lol hee hee......
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TheDogon wrote: Rockette wrote: blackbutterfly182 wrote: I too believe African men have to take the lead, thats the point I was trying to make in the forum about Marcus Bent. African men who are not like him and others need to take the lead to stand up and be counted otherwise you will look like fools and have grey women thinking they can take liberties with you....
Malcolm X also said it, until black women are respected by their own men and held up the same way white women are by their men, they will continue to be the most disrespected and put upon. All women deep down want to feel protected by their own men, no matter how much they might front like they dont. Some men need to step up and take charge, otherwise things will only go from bad to worse.
I have always disliked 50 cent and I never knew why, he looks like a simpleton with his dopey smile there is something strange about him but I cant put my finger on it. What exactly is an agent? Because you have mentioned this before. I read that the FBI have a unit especially dedicated to hip-hop music. I think it was in stupid white men by Michael Moore.
This is one luxury we will never have as too many Black men have signaled they want to throw their weight behind nonblack women.
Only in comparison to "Black" women. Compare us to other males and we are the most loyal.
I am not making excuses. "Black" males can't afford to chase other women. But I do think most of us know that.
You have a point.
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: I would love to see your "hard drive"!!lol hee hee......
It took ages to save all those sexy pics you sent me on photobucket. Next time mi waan si di real ting yu hear. 
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Prince Hakeem wrote: blackbutterfly182 wrote: I would love to see your "hard drive"!!lol hee hee......
It took ages to save all those sexy pics you sent me on photobucket. Next time mi waan si di real ting yu hear.
Im changing my screen name to Princess Hakeem!lol Yeah what b**ches you best all step off and recognise this is my man right here. Cos Im an Ol G! (leaves swiftly before get fly kicked by the real Mrs Hakeem!)
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Posted: Friday May 18th, 2007 21:05 |
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blackbutterfly182 wrote: Prince Hakeem wrote: blackbutterfly182 wrote: I would love to see your "hard drive"!!lol hee hee......
It took ages to save all those sexy pics you sent me on photobucket. Next time mi waan si di real ting yu hear.
Im changing my screen name to Princess Hakeem!lol Yeah what b**ches you best all step off and recognise this is my man right here. Cos Im an Ol G! (leaves swiftly before get fly kicked by the real Mrs Hakeem!)
Bring it on Butterfly!!! I saw him first but i just did not make my move, cuz im very shy!
So you run along now, like a good likkle girl,,
CUZ HE'S MINE!!! unless you want to share
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Nah sis I dont share Im greedy like that!... Like the song goes "he's mine you may have had him one but I got him all the time"!!lol. Hope you the got the message otherwise Im about to take my earrings off....
And you Hakeem its like that is it, all your likkle gals come out the woodworks chuups! But you need to let these chicks know what time it is, ya get me!
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Posted: Monday May 21st, 2007 08:33 |
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"U.S. male chauvinism has certainly affected the attitudes of African males in America."
O'rly.
All in the last 30 years eh.
"While it is important to remain vigilant in the quest to purge Hip-Hop of its misogynist language, and racial self-hatred, it is perhaps most helpful to be armed with an analysis of its origins."
Indeed. What's more interesting is that the consumer often knows the music that these hiphop stars bring out, the consumer being mainly white men and all, and they still like the stuff, and still buy the stuff, and strangely they seem to identify with the music themselves. Maybe they find it empowering or something.
Some possible origins for this little problem can often be found in much bigger problems, like for instants in the way "Feminism" influences modern society, especially via the media..Oh and if anyone doesn't think the gay agenda isn't a Feminst creation they really need to wake up. Anyhows.
1. The constant feminist-inspired demonisation and denigration of men throughout the west has resulted not only in many of them feeling worthless, with the result that they now reject the worthwhile values of their own societies (with some turning to crime, drugs, irresponsible behaviours etc) it has also undermined any reason for them to shape up.
2. Furthermore, the ubiquitous negative descriptions of men that continually pour out of the mainstream media simply make many men feel quite entitled to behave in accordance with those very same descriptions! The point is that if men are persistently deemed to be slothful - or whatever - then many men, with much justification, will see no reason to behave any differently from the way in which they and their fellow men are being depicted.
3. The western educational system has been so heavily biased against boys for the past few decades that they are doing very badly at school. Not only have the educationalists been using diabolically poor teaching methods (e.g. in their teaching of reading skills) but the curricula have been so feminised and politically corrected that boys quickly lose any interest that they might have had in being 'educated'.
This, coupled with poor standards of discipline, has led to our societies having to bear the burden of having millions of undisciplined, uneducated males in their midsts.
4. The effect of feminism and political correctness in education - e.g. in the study of History - and in the mainstream media, where 'great men of noble character' are hardly seen to exist any more means that there are few good role models for boys in their growing years. And the images of men that are daily inflicted upon young men and boys are overwhelmingly negative.
Is it surprising, therefore, that so many men actually have no real concept of what a 'good man' is?
Such men do not exist in the world that is being presented to them.
5. Thanks to the wholesale corruption of the family courts and the "no-fault" divorce laws, men no longer have any real motivation to devote most of their lives, their love, their money etc into bringing up a family. Why should they - when it can all be taken away from them at the whim of their partners?
Furthermore, prejudicial 'relationship laws' - such as those pertaining to domestic violence and child abuse etc - make men feel very insecure within their relationships.
And to add to all this there is the daily carpeting of man-hatred that pours out of the feminist-dominated media telling women and children to report their partners for abuse of some sort.
Well. There are only two main ways in which men can deal with the relationship insecurity that all this brings about.
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