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Posted: Sunday March 18th, 2007 13:18 |
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Hi Everyone,
Are there any people of colour out there who are home educating their children?
How are you getting on?
Do you get support from your families?
Have you always home educated?
Anyone out there who feels the schools are not doing the business, but would want something else for their children? Such as home educating, or attending a non-white school.
Asking again how black (non-white) carers feel about home education?
Nappy
P.S. It is legal to home educate your child. Education Act 1996: -
Compulsory education Duty of parents to secure education of children of compulsory school age.
7. The parent of every child of compulsory school age shall cause him to receive efficient full-time education suitable-
(a) to his age, ability and aptitude, and
(b) to any special educational needs he may have,
either by regular attendance at school or otherwise.
P.P.S
There are some changes in the wind expected from government.
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Posted: Monday March 26th, 2007 15:21 |
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Hi Nappy,
You can call me "eve" or "iv" or "evolving".
I don't have any children myself, but I'm an ex-teacher (of adults only) and ex private tutor of school children in their own homes.
I can assure you that home schooling, provided you're prepared to commit the time and effort involved, is not as hard as the "gremlins" would make out, and it can be ultimately more rewarding for a family, than putting a child through the state system.
Expect to hear discouraging voices. The first objection you would hear, which would be about the quality of the alternative education you're offering your child, can be easily disposed of.
I don't know how old your child is, but the 3 Rs (reading, writing and arithmetic) should be easier for the child to pick up in the intimacy and intensity of one to one teaching by a parent, than in a classroom.
Once these basic skills have been mastered, there is a lot the child should be able to do for herself, under your supervision, what with libraries, the internet etc, to master history, citizenship, science and so on.
Children who are home-schooled, can actually learn more and quicker than children in the state system. They can if considered a desirable objective, take GCSEs, as a private candidate, earlier than 16 if they wish, and they don't have to take them all at once. My info may be out of date, so you'd need to check that. There is a group called "Education Otherwise"of families who home educate, who could give you lots of info. ( I don't know if it still exists).
The second objection you will hear is that you would be depriving the child of the opportunity to pick up social skills (such as how to bully and be bullied and smoke cannabis - that's tongue in cheek). You'd need to make alternative arrangements, for the child's social life (through church perhaps?)
To answer one of your other questions, the schools are doing the business they were set up to do. It all goes back to the industrial revolution, when rural cottage industries were sidelined by factories in the growing cities. Children used to work in these factories alongside parents. Working conditions in these factories were atrocious. Due to the outcry of philantrophists, Parliament passed Labour Laws prohibiting the employment of children under a certain age, in these factories, mills, coal mines etc. (Legislation forcing the factories to clean up their act came later). This replaced one problem with another - children in the growing cities, running about underfoot all day, getting up to no good, while both parents slaved away in factories. More philantrophists came up with a solution - setting up schools. The Government came in on the act, and Parliament made schooling compulsory until the age of 10, I think, then upping the limit of the school leaving age over the years, till the present one of 16. Schooling evolved to fulfil two purposes. 1. Act as a glorified creche/detention centre, in which to keep children out of mischief, while both parents are making money. 2. To make them fit, like cogs in a wheel, into the socio-economic system that was born at that time, and was exploiting their parents. (Do you notice how Tony Blair speaks of "getting people into jobs"? It doesn't seem to occur to him, that one of those people, might be a Richard Branson of no GCSEs, who probably employs lots of people, with paper qualifications, or perhaps an artist or inventor....).
You'll need to think about the wider implications of what you're doing. If you're not educating your child to fit into the system, what are you educating him/her for? What values are you applying? Where will it all end?
You mention the prospect of legislative change. Now there's a surprise. Labour govts I believe, are instinctively totalitarian and anti-freedom. They know better than you, what's good for you. If however you're a person of faith, and you know yourself to have a God-given trust, to give your child the best start in life, then I recommend the power of prayer - for protection against interference with that trust......
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 21:08 |
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eve olving consciousness wrote: Hi Nappy,
You can call me "eve" or "iv" or "evolving".
Hi Eve,
I don't have any children myself, but I'm an ex-teacher (of adults only) and ex private tutor of school children in their own homes.
I can assure you that home schooling, provided you're prepared to commit the time and effort involved, is not as hard as the "gremlins" would make out, and it can be ultimately more rewarding for a family, than putting a child through the state system.
I totally agree with you.
Expect to hear discouraging voices. The first objection you would hear, which would be about the quality of the alternative education you're offering your child, can be easily disposed of.
I don't know how old your child is, but the 3 Rs (reading, writing and arithmetic) should be easier for the child to pick up in the intimacy and intensity of one to one teaching by a parent, than in a classroom.
Once these basic skills have been mastered, there is a lot the child should be able to do for herself, under your supervision, what with libraries, the internet etc, to master history, citizenship, science and so on.
Children who are home-schooled, can actually learn more and quicker than children in the state system. They can if considered a desirable objective, take GCSEs, as a private candidate, earlier than 16 if they wish, and they don't have to take them all at once. My info may be out of date, so you'd need to check that. There is a group called "Education Otherwise"of families who home educate, who could give you lots of info. ( I don't know if it still exists).
Education otherwise is still going strong for home educating families
The second objection you will hear is that you would be depriving the child of the opportunity to pick up social skills (such as how to bully and be bullied and smoke cannabis - that's tongue in cheek). You'd need to make alternative arrangements, for the child's social life (through church perhaps?)
To answer one of your other questions, the schools are doing the business they were set up to do. It all goes back to the industrial revolution, when rural cottage industries were sidelined by factories in the growing cities. Children used to work in these factories alongside parents. Working conditions in these factories were atrocious. Due to the outcry of philantrophists, Parliament passed Labour Laws prohibiting the employment of children under a certain age, in these factories, mills, coal mines etc. (Legislation forcing the factories to clean up their act came later). This replaced one problem with another - children in the growing cities, running about underfoot all day, getting up to no good, while both parents slaved away in factories. More philantrophists came up with a solution - setting up schools. The Government came in on the act, and Parliament made schooling compulsory until the age of 10, I think, then upping the limit of the school leaving age over the years, till the present one of 16. Schooling evolved to fulfil two purposes.
There was some mention recently of 18 years old for leaving school.
1. Act as a glorified creche/detention centre, in which to keep children out of mischief, while both parents are making money. 2. To make them fit, like cogs in a wheel, into the socio-economic system that was born at that time, and was exploiting their parents. (Do you notice how Tony Blair speaks of "getting people into jobs"? It doesn't seem to occur to him, that one of those people, might be a Richard Branson of no GCSEs, who probably employs lots of people, with paper qualifications, or perhaps an artist or inventor....).
You'll need to think about the wider implications of what you're doing. If you're not educating your child to fit into the system, what are you educating him/her for? What values are you applying? Where will it all end?
You mention the prospect of legislative change. Now there's a surprise. Labour govts I believe, are instinctively totalitarian and anti-freedom. They know better than you, what's good for you. If however you're a person of faith, and you know yourself to have a God-given trust, to give your child the best start in life, then I recommend the power of prayer - for protection against interference with that trust......
Thank you very much.
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Nappy
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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 07:57 |
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Hi Nappy,
Yes mine where taught personal development, which then empowered them to successfully undertake business studies, have a successful business and earning more than most under 30's.
See: http://www.bgil.successuniversity.com
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Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 16:02 |
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Hi Nappy,
Just a question to yourself really concerning this thread. I wanted to clarify why you emphasised the term "non-white". Are you pertaining to a feeling that white home-schooling and black home-schooling are significantly different, and if so , in what way?
Or was it more to do with the fact that black kids are not getting a good deal in the state system?
Or something else?
Im just curious on your thoughts.
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