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 Posted: Wednesday May 17th, 2006 09:22

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 Posted: Wednesday May 17th, 2006 09:25

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Check this link there are a lot of historical art of Africa to learn from
http://www.randafricanart.com/Benin_Oba_commemorative_heads.html



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 Posted: Wednesday May 17th, 2006 21:53

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Cool man. I'd love to know more about stuff like this.



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 Posted: Thursday May 18th, 2006 11:26

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here is new links fighting for our art



 
ARM needs your support
Please write to Glasgow City Council in support of our efforts to secure the return of the Benin Bronzes and Ivories.
Many Glasgow Councillors and Members of Parliament have already generously pledged their support for the repatriation of these treasures.
With the added benifit of your timely support there is an excellent chance of a sucessful outcome.

Glasgow City Council
City Chambers, Glasgow G2 1DU
Tel: 0141 287 2000
 
 
The British and The Benin Bronzes
ARM Information sheet 4 The Looting of Benin
Richard Gott reappraises a British outrage against a tiny African fiefdom 100 years ago. Reproduced from THE INDEPENDANT Saturday February 22th 1997 Glasgow Art Gallery and Museum - Handlist of items from Nigeria
In order of date of aquisition Letter to Julian Spalding
Director, Glasgow Art Gallery And Museum - from Bernie Grant, MP Letter to Julian Spalding
Director, Glasgow Art Gallery And Museum - from Emmanual N. Arinze - Chairman, West African Museums Programe Reply from Julian Spalding
to Bernie Grant, MP Battle royal for Benin relics
Press cutting from The Glasgow Herald, January 25th 1997 (JPEG 252k) Hijacked African Treasures
More information from ARM on looted African artefacts



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 Posted: Thursday May 18th, 2006 15:31

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Benin (EDO People) Art

These are few of the art work that was stollen from Edo empire (Benin Kingdom)

We need them back and is ours,

THEFT IS A CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!




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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 01:02

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Thanks, Basic_Meo:

Found this through one of your links:  Is this the correct address (below)?

Glasgow City Council

City Chambers

Glasgow

G2 1DU

Telephone number: 0141 287 0900

Is there a particular person to address the letters to?

 

 

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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 10:34

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MwemaJ wrote: Thanks, Basic_Meo:

Found this through one of your links:  Is this the correct address (below)?

Glasgow City Council

City Chambers

Glasgow

G2 1DU

Telephone number: 0141 287 0900

Is there a particular person to address the letters to?

 

 

(not sure why my computer is only allowing me to double space)


Thank MwemaJ for taking your time to view this thread. In fact I don't have a real contact name but a letter to Glasgow city council adressing it to  Glasgow munseum directo will do



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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 15:43

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@Brother Basic_meo

 

I got a pm to come and check this out, thanks for this infor why don't you also put it up on the ligali website for more awareness and support.

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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 15:51

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I am having trouble viewing your web links but it may be helpful to display the letter that was sent to these damn people that refuse to return the stolen art so that anyone who wishes to write can use the letter as a sample basis on how to construct theirs, because simply stating give back our art you phucking thieves just won't cut it LOL.

Seriously though I haven't checked myself but this should be on the main page of bn if it not already because its very important anyway i will be wrting my letter shortly.



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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 15:56

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Friggin hell actually I take that back I have just been to the home (main) page of bn and the first thing that jumped in my face is the an advert for silly bimbo looking white girls looking for dates in the advert section so your plea may get pushed to the side by these kind of stupid damn ads.  Like I said post it as well on Ligali.



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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 17:17

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 Posted: Friday May 19th, 2006 17:28

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Mafdet wrote: @Basic

I am having trouble viewing your web links but it may be helpful to display the letter that was sent to these damn people that refuse to return the stolen art so that anyone who wishes to write can use the letter as a sample basis on how to construct theirs, because simply stating give back our art you phucking thieves just won't cut it LOL.

Seriously though I haven't checked myself but this should be on the main page of bn if it not already because its very important anyway i will be wrting my letter shortly.




Hi Sister Mafdef,

I have just posted example of letter written by Emmanuel N Arinze, this  may help in the construction of any letter.

This issue have been going for very long time I just post this here for the BN to see and would have been very nice to see the BN moderators to take a bit step forward and make BNVB to be aware of it

Thank you very much for taken this step forward they are quite wounderful work of art by the Benin people and they have a very significant to our culture as well to the BLACK people as a whole this is history.

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Programme des Musées de l'Afrique de l'Ouset
B.P. 357. Dakar. Sénégal. Tel: (221) 22 50 57 Fax: (221) 22 12 33

P.O. Box 71041
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Lagos, Nigeria
Tel: 01-2622917, 09-2341722, 09-5234757
Fax: 01-2694642, 09-2341722

Dear Mr. Spalding

Return Of Benin Objects to The Oba Of Benin

I have Just heard of the effort being made by Mr. Bernie Grant, MP to convince your Museum to return some Benin artefacts to the Oba of Benin as a gesture of historic reconciliation and posative response to the age long yearnings and aspirations of an aggrieved People. This gesture would not have come at a more appropriate time in the history of Benin and indeed Nigeria, as we prepare to celebrate the centenary of the great BeninExpedition of 1897

The return of any single Benin artefact is of great significance as the object returns to the altar of our ancestors where they relilously, culturally and historically belong, Each object on the ancestral altar has a meaning and performs a function that ss paramount and necessary to the life of the Edo. In a different context, environment and situation, the same object becomes sterile. empty and just a work of art.

having worked in Museums forcIose to twenty-five years, I do understand and appreciate that humanity should have access to the creative works of different peoples and different cultures. However this universal Idea should not deprive people thelr natural right to held and to keep that which they have made and which is partof theIr very existence and humanity.

The sacred and unique religious cermonies that are performed in the Palace of the Obe of Benin and which affect the life of every Edo citizen draw a huge crowd to the Palace grounds and it is significant that these ceremonies centre around the artefacts one finds on the ancestral altars.

In this regard, and in my capacity as the Chairman of the West African Museums Programme and President of the Commonwealth Associatlon of Museums, I join my voice with those of emininent citizens like Rt, Hon. Bernie Grant, MP in appealing to you, your Museum and your Council to be gracious enough and agree to return the Benin artefacts in your Museum collection to the Oba of Benin who today is the personification of the Edo nation in all its ramifications.

This singular act of your Museum will encourage many others in our great profession to take the path of honour and join in the historic quest for restitution.

I wish you well

Best wishes

Emmanul N, Arinze

Chairman
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 Posted: Saturday May 20th, 2006 01:46

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Bernie Grant Passed away a few years ago



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Bernie Grant Passed away a few years ago



Yes I know about that I think I was living in London when that happen, We miss him deeply and our heart will always go for him for the fight for Africa race.



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 Posted: Saturday June 10th, 2006 04:45

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The return of African artifacts:  long overdue...!


Europe has always taken from Africa what as not theirs to take...


PS This includes what belongs to Egypt as well!

 

Last edited on Saturday June 10th, 2006 04:54 by Fine1952



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