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War In Sudan? War In Sudan? War In Sudan?
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 Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 01:15
Well, ive been reading and reading, and all now i cant get to a conclusion if the government in sudan is arab or black. Well we all know or sum may know that there is a big war in sudan between north militants which are Arabs who just want to take over Black people oil in Sudan and other riches, and by this, they have declared war against black sudanese people, which millions have died already. But what i dont understand is how comes i cant hear anything about arabs dying aswell. what i also dont understand is me researching and seeing sumthing about arab government and then sumthing about Sudanese governement in sudan.

So what i do really want to know, if some 1 can kindly help me on this questions list:

Is there any whats so ever an Arab government in any part of Sudan?

Out of the millions who have died out through out the war in sudan, does the dying rate include many Arabs aswell?

Where in sudan is the war actually taking place, the edge? the middle? Where?

All other facts can be said what ever you think that i dont know, that you can teach me. thanks



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 Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 06:36
There are both black people the north are muslim and the south are christian 10% of the population are christian there are been civil wars in the region for years.

One of the sensationalist themes encountered with respect to the conflict in Darfur is that it is a racial one in which light-skinned “Arab� tribes have been engaged in the “ethnic cleansing� of black “African� tribes. [2] These sorts of claims are particularly inflammatory and very questionable. Mahmood Mamdani, director of the Institute of African Studies at Columbia University, noted that “The implication that these are two different races, one indigenous and the other not is dangerous.� [3] The simple fact is that there is very little, if any, racial difference between the many tribes of Darfur, “Arab� or “African�. Both communities are black. The London Observer newspaper has reported, for example, that “[c]enturies of intermarriage has rendered the two groups physically indistinguishable�.[4] The UN media service noted: “In Darfur, where the vast majority of people are Muslim and Arabic-speaking, the distinction between ‘Arab’ and ‘African’ is more cultural than racial.�[5] This reality has also been confirmed by Dr Alex de Waal and other anti-government activists.[6] Ryle has noted that Arabs and non-Arabs “are generally physically indistinguishable�. [7] The New York Times has exemplified contradictory reporting on this issue, with articles on one hand by their columnist Nicholas Kristof alleging, for example, that “black Africans have been driven from their homes by lighter-skinned Arabs in the Janjaweed� [8] while also publishing subsequent articles such as “In Sudan, No Clear Difference Between Arab and African�. [9] Even “African� Darfurian anti-government figures such as Dr Eltigani Ateem Seisi contradict the dangerously lazy shorthand of the New York Times. Speaking at a conference in Brussels he stated with reference to “Arabs� and “Africans� in Darfur that “we all look alike� and that one “can’t tell from the features if he is Arab or African�. He added that he, an “African�, had a lighter skin than many “Arabs�. [10]


They have self identified themselves as arab because they speak arabic there are all as black and african as each other. Both Christians and muslims have died.



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 Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 10:21
i dont know what you are talking, about arabs and sudan are the same people, arabs are the people who originate from arabia, so how can arab people be sudanese, and saying that they are the same as sudanese people, cant you see they are thes one who got sum kind of connection with egypt or arabia or sumthing which they got a lot of money from them to fund  the war.



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