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Posted: Monday June 5th, 2006 03:17 |
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lilsoulful1 wrote: liberiangirl wrote: huzzah1 wrote: I read a brief article about her in a Saturday newspaper and one question kept coming to my mind...why was she ALLEGEDLY abused and not her siblings? Are her siblings more beautiful than her? All kids wet their beds so why write a book about "My bed wetting as a kid. It's my mum's fault"?
She's a QC so she should know better than cast ALLEGATIONS about her own 72 year old mother in public. And then it hit me - she's cashing on the latest celeb fad. Write about your traumatic childhood with unsubstantiated allegations and flog it for £££££££. I dont think her mum needs this kind of stress at her age.
And she's married to that old duffer? No surprise there - same old story.
You obviously need to read some books on child abuse. It is in fact common among abused children to have siblings who were treated fairly well by their parents. Its simply disgusting think that some people on here are questioning whether or not this woman was actually abused. It is little wonder why the black community has so many problems because people like like this want to sit here with their eyes closed and pretend these things dont happen, LOL.
I've read the book also and I'm sorry but I had to question if it was all truth or not. Things in that book don't add up at all. Constance never seems to express any emotion or feeling in response to her mothers abuse, or that at least how she wrote it. Sorry, but I firmly believe constance is talk s*it at some points in that book. She's hiding things. Not once in all those years did constance ever retaliate from the awful abuse (as she writes it). Constance has some confessions.
So because she didnt seem to show any emotion and because she never retaliated that makes her a liar???? To be honest I have not read the book, but to say that she is lying based on those reasons is rather ridiculous. Did you really expect her to retaliate on her own mother, when she was only a child??? How many kids do you know who have hit or harmed their own parents? How silly. As the showing no emotions part, it may have to do with how she wrote it which may simply be bad writing, not necessarily making up events that happened in her childhood.
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Posted: Monday June 5th, 2006 06:59 |
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Okay thing what you want, but dont comment on things that you dont know about children that have been abused. Its a serious issue regardless of what you think of this book. Many children and adults never retaliate(sp) to the person that is abusing them. Furthermore she is a child.
If you have heard of David Pelzer he was one of the first ducumented child abuse cases in the US, he never fought back against his mother, she always deined what she did and his abuse was documented. She bloody stabbed the child and never took him to hospital.
Anyway, no one believes nothing thats how children die!
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Posted: Tuesday June 6th, 2006 20:52 |
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From personal experience I know a fair bit about child abuse, the different forms of it and how it affects the person it has happened to. I'm actually quite disgusted by some of the comments I've read.
Someone said the girl never showed emotion when her mum was beating her well her emotion was shown through wetting the bed. She never wet the bed when she was at other people's houses because she wasn't scared or anxious or lay in anticipation of what her mother was going to do to her.
Someone said a white man helped her kick start her career, well as far as I can see she started her career by herself. She passed her school and college exams with help from no one, she got the money together to put herself in uni, she maintained contact with a lawyer who said he would mentor her. Even when she asked her mum to sign one likkle form for uni it was ripped up in her face.
Someone said it was not up to her siblings to protect this girl from getting beaten from her mum. Are you seriously telling me you would be happy with ur sibling being called into ur room, stands there and watches while ur mother strips off ur nightclothes, taunts u and subjects u to physical abuse and ur sibling does nothing to intervene? What planet are you on?
Someone said a lot of emphasis was put on school dinners, well her food was rationed at home sometimes she completely went without food so the school dinner would be her main meal of the day. The only time she really ate was when her dad bought the food.
QUESTION: DID YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK OR WERE U JUST SKIMMING THE PAGES?
Someone said why didn't she retaliate against her mother, she did when she refused to go home on numerous occasions. At the end of the day this girl loved her mother and wanted nothing more but for her mother to love her back. She would never have retaliated by hitting her mother, but she got revenge the day she got her four poster bed and the day she left for uni.
QUESTION: IF THIS IS ALL A BUNCH OF LIES AND THE MOTHER HAD NOTHING TO HIDE WHY WOULD SHE STEAL THE GIRL'S DIARIES THE DAY SHE WAS LEAVING FOR UNI?
ANSWER: BECAUSE THE MOTHER KNEW THE GIRL HAD A STORY TO TELL AND THOSE DIARIES CONTAINED DAMNING EVIDENCE AGAINST HER
For this book to be nothing but fabrication it would suggest Constance has serious mental health issues, because who in their right mind would contemplate conjuring up such horrific, graphical, disturbing forms of abuse slap it in a book and say "this is a story about my life"? No I don't buy that for one second. Oh and to the members of the hypocrite society who are berating this woman for "airing her dirty laundry" guess wha? People air their dirty laundry on here all day everyday, but u don't frown on that do u, nah u offer the person advice instead. Makes me laugh
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Posted: Tuesday June 6th, 2006 21:35 |
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facetygal wrote: From personal experience I know a fair bit about child abuse, the different forms of it and how it affects the person it has happened to. I'm actually quite disgusted by some of the comments I've read.
Someone said the girl never showed emotion when her mum was beating her well her emotion was shown through wetting the bed. She never wet the bed when she was at other people's houses because she wasn't scared or anxious or lay in anticipation of what her mother was going to do to her.
Someone said a white man helped her kick start her career, well as far as I can see she started her career by herself. She passed her school and college exams with help from no one, she got the money together to put herself in uni, she maintained contact with a lawyer who said he would mentor her. Even when she asked her mum to sign one likkle form for uni it was ripped up in her face.
i have read the book and you make some good points here ^^^which i agree with.
Someone said it was not up to her siblings to protect this girl from getting beaten from her mum. Are you seriously telling me you would be happy with ur sibling being called into ur room, stands there and watches while ur mother strips off ur nightclothes, taunts u and subjects u to physical abuse and ur sibling does nothing to intervene? What planet are you on?
i dont agree with this. i dont know of many children that would not fear a parent who behaved like this. that fear would stop some siblings from getting involved, you cant really blame a child for being scared of an angry abusive adult - even if it isnt them the abuse is directed at. maybe some children would try to intervene but with a mother like that i'm not sure they would do it more than once. if they grow up with that happening and see it all the time they can even come to see it as normal as weird as that might sound.
Someone said a lot of emphasis was put on school dinners, well her food was rationed at home sometimes she completely went without food so the school dinner would be her main meal of the day. The only time she really ate was when her dad bought the food.
QUESTION: DID YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK OR WERE U JUST SKIMMING THE PAGES?
Someone said why didn't she retaliate against her mother, she did when she refused to go home on numerous occasions. At the end of the day this girl loved her mother and wanted nothing more but for her mother to love her back. She would never have retaliated by hitting her mother, but she got revenge the day she got her four poster bed and the day she left for uni.
QUESTION: IF THIS IS ALL A BUNCH OF LIES AND THE MOTHER HAD NOTHING TO HIDE WHY WOULD SHE STEAL THE GIRL'S DIARIES THE DAY SHE WAS LEAVING FOR UNI?
ANSWER: BECAUSE THE MOTHER KNEW THE GIRL HAD A STORY TO TELL AND THOSE DIARIES CONTAINED DAMNING EVIDENCE AGAINST HER
i must admit i thought it was pretty convenient for Constance that the diaries were stolen so she hasnt got them to show what she actually wrote at the time now, we just have to believe what she says she wrote. how do we know there was any stolen diaries? just her word for it. dont get me wrong i do believe she was abused but i dont think everything she wrote in the book was necessarily true. i think she may have embellished a few things like they sometimes do when they make books into films - spice it up a little.
For this book to be nothing but fabrication it would suggest Constance has serious mental health issues, because who in their right mind would contemplate conjuring up such horrific, graphical, disturbing forms of abuse slap it in a book and say "this is a story about my life"? No I don't buy that for one second. Oh and to the members of the hypocrite society who are berating this woman for "airing her dirty laundry" guess wha? People air their dirty laundry on here all day everyday, but u don't frown on that do u, nah u offer the person advice instead. Makes me laugh
again you make a good point about airing dirty laundry sometimes seeming more acceptable to some people than other times but with the internet the people who air theirs are anonymous and airing to strangers, so that frees them up more, but i must say i thought from reading this book that she was most definitely abused in some way even if she might have exaggerated some aspects.
she comes across like she is still emotionally damaged so i wouldnt put it past her to fabricate a few details here and there, being a person with the kind of issues she seems to have.
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Posted: Wednesday June 7th, 2006 10:41 |
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facetygal wrote: From personal experience I know a fair bit about child abuse, the different forms of it and how it affects the person it has happened to. I'm actually quite disgusted by some of the comments I've read.
Someone said the girl never showed emotion when her mum was beating her well her emotion was shown through wetting the bed. She never wet the bed when she was at other people's houses because she wasn't scared or anxious or lay in anticipation of what her mother was going to do to her.
Someone said a white man helped her kick start her career, well as far as I can see she started her career by herself. She passed her school and college exams with help from no one, she got the money together to put herself in uni, she maintained contact with a lawyer who said he would mentor her. Even when she asked her mum to sign one likkle form for uni it was ripped up in her face.
Someone said it was not up to her siblings to protect this girl from getting beaten from her mum. Are you seriously telling me you would be happy with ur sibling being called into ur room, stands there and watches while ur mother strips off ur nightclothes, taunts u and subjects u to physical abuse and ur sibling does nothing to intervene? What planet are you on?
Someone said a lot of emphasis was put on school dinners, well her food was rationed at home sometimes she completely went without food so the school dinner would be her main meal of the day. The only time she really ate was when her dad bought the food.
QUESTION: DID YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK OR WERE U JUST SKIMMING THE PAGES?
Someone said why didn't she retaliate against her mother, she did when she refused to go home on numerous occasions. At the end of the day this girl loved her mother and wanted nothing more but for her mother to love her back. She would never have retaliated by hitting her mother, but she got revenge the day she got her four poster bed and the day she left for uni.
QUESTION: IF THIS IS ALL A BUNCH OF LIES AND THE MOTHER HAD NOTHING TO HIDE WHY WOULD SHE STEAL THE GIRL'S DIARIES THE DAY SHE WAS LEAVING FOR UNI?
ANSWER: BECAUSE THE MOTHER KNEW THE GIRL HAD A STORY TO TELL AND THOSE DIARIES CONTAINED DAMNING EVIDENCE AGAINST HER
For this book to be nothing but fabrication it would suggest Constance has serious mental health issues, because who in their right mind would contemplate conjuring up such horrific, graphical, disturbing forms of abuse slap it in a book and say "this is a story about my life"? No I don't buy that for one second. Oh and to the members of the hypocrite society who are berating this woman for "airing her dirty laundry" guess wha? People air their dirty laundry on here all day everyday, but u don't frown on that do u, nah u offer the person advice instead. Makes me laugh
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Posted: Wednesday June 7th, 2006 20:17 |
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Mansamusa wrote: Thats the first impression this book gives me. Plus the fact she has a white man makes me really not give a toss about her struggles. She can go to hell.
Very impressive point on the basis that interracial relationship is detrimental to our unity, progress and development, hence she is a bad role model for young black women in cosmopolitan Britain and beyond.
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Posted: Wednesday June 7th, 2006 20:30 |
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AmeriJamCan wrote: Why can't we just be happy that a Black woman has made it?
Is that what you called Black women sleeping with White men or non-black men? Made it? I find that appalling, disgusting, disrespectful and incomprehensible.
I wonder if this thread would have been started had she been a Black man instead.
Yes it would had been started if the black person in question was a black male. Racial integration with others in the bedroom is not helpful to our unity and development, hence should be abolished on our part as quickly as possible otherwise we will come to a stage in our black life where we will be at the mercy of others' domination. This problem needs to be addressed and taken seriously by black people in the diaspora to avoid calamity as we are on the brink of it already.
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Posted: Monday June 12th, 2006 17:25 |
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I just started reading the book today. Do I believe her?.....hmmmm I'll get back to you on that.
I CERTAINLY see some holes in her story which I can see why her account of her childhood is questionable. But at the same time I know of women from her mothers era that are just plain wicked, as her book describes her mother to be, so she's also belivable (in parts).
I guess I, like others, should actually finish the book before passing judgement.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 14:53 |
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It seems like some people are just soo bothered and concerned about what white people think of us that they would rather hush anyone who is not painting a rosey picture of their own family/anyone else black in public than face reality.
Constance says she was abused but because she is black and the book is accessible to white people suddenly it is wrong because it makes us ALL look bad.
But did she write in the book that all black families act in this way?
I keep hearing people say we dont care what white people think of us , but in reality I think many do because many things go un-said or silenced in public because of how white society may percieve us as a community.
Maybe she was wrong for naming names but why is she getting more of the anger when she was the victim?
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 18:11 |
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Afroboo wrote:
Maybe she was wrong for naming names but why is she getting more of the anger when she was the victim?
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it seems to me like some people are more bothered by the fact she is with a white man.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 19:02 |
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Yea looks like you could be right
But somehow I think even if she was with a black man anger would still be directed her way for exposing her business and somehow making us "ALL" look bad.
Never mind about the abusive mother..
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Posted: Sunday July 23rd, 2006 16:24 |
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| it's called the blacknet hypocrisy and is truly sad... Last edited on Sunday July 23rd, 2006 16:27 by The Last African
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