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Posted: Monday October 3rd, 2005 00:49 |
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rammcsnake wrote: Solomon why do you believe the first part? Where is the evidence that that is true? Does everything have to have evidence for you to know it? And what kind of evidence are you talking about? Does it have to be an ancient scripture? Everything can not come in evidence like that. You have to figure alot of things out from the God inside you. What good would you be if everything we find out has to come from something physically in front of us. Not only does Malachi Z.York know certain truths but alot of other people do too. Is the Caucasian media just saying that something happened any more evidence than when it comes from a brother that presents hard core facts hardly anyone else is.
So isnt it true that its not simply evidence you are asking for but rather something that will be in congruent with your other beliefs that are related to the subject. And those other beliefs are probably based on pre cognistic thoughts. Because you have too much pride to just wipe out most of your beliefs and start all over again. This is just true with most Blacks.
With you Solomon I have read alot of your posts and you have Right Knowledge about alot of things but you continue to mix it with your perpetrated untruths. Why do you continue to ignore certain kinds of things. HMMMMM. That can be puzzling.
NOW, WHY DOES THIS PERSON MENTION DR. YORK?
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Posted: Monday October 3rd, 2005 01:43 |
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Posted: Thursday October 6th, 2005 13:05 |
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Intrig, just letting you know that I am still here reading your lessons. I think that by now you should know that there will always be someone who will challenge you to the point where you will be sideswept. Please post more lessons. Looking forward! Peace!
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Posted: Thursday October 6th, 2005 18:10 |
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Peacemaker wrote: He's a follower of that paedophile.
People like seem to be a bunch of big babies. When you disagree you name call people instead of posting intelligent arguments.
If you would sit back and think Dr. York was mentioned several times in this topic.
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Posted: Thursday October 6th, 2005 18:22 |
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nefertit wrote: Intrig, just letting you know that I am still here reading your lessons. I think that by now you should know that there will always be someone who will challenge you to the point where you will be sideswept. Please post more lessons. Looking forward! Peace!
Hi nefertit:
Being busier than usual, I can only post on Sunday nights. So look for a new lesson every Sunday night or Monday morning.
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Posted: Friday October 7th, 2005 09:35 |
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rammcsnake wrote: Peacemaker wrote: He's a follower of that paedophile.
People like seem to be a bunch of big babies. When you disagree you name call people instead of posting intelligent arguments.
If you would sit back and think Dr. York was mentioned several times in this topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_York
You're a follower of that paedophile.
It's a fact. Nothing childish about it.
What's he in prison for again?
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Posted: Sunday October 9th, 2005 12:54 |
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| Thanks intrig. I also go to your website to check out your updatesl. Can't wait until you post the one for Sept. Peace!
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Posted: Sunday October 9th, 2005 15:07 |
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Actually not all of us do at all, not in this lifetime anyway. The fact that you don't know the differences between the mind(Subconscious) and the consciousness(soul) says alot. Know thyself has been said alot too. Even that silly religion Scientology has grasped that point to a degree. But Mr Hubbard got abit too carried with the contents of his subconscious as does everybody else I've noticed. Way too much fiction. The thing is I know where it comes from so I find it easy to identify.
Peacemaker, I am really interested in this, I like to believe that the subconscious is the real me, what I have experienced as me, not as how my parents, neighbours, culture, society, siblings, teachers ,...wanted me to, what's your take on this? 
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Posted: Sunday October 9th, 2005 21:58 |
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nefertit wrote: Thanks intrig. I also go to your website to check out your updatesl. Can't wait until you post the one for Sept. Peace!
nefertit,
I'll be posting part 3 in the 'Print' section sometime this coming week.
If anyone experienced problems printing the material, let me know.
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Posted: Sunday October 9th, 2005 22:02 |
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The true Israelites - the chosen people of Yahweh. Part 5
As stated, the most important facet of the animosity between blacks and the light-skinned races was the religious aspect. This continues to this day, but in a form that is so totally different and unexpected that it has deceived all the nations of the world as to its true nature, let alone its true origin. The oldest strife on earth began as animosity between the black inhabitants of the island of Pelan - the descendents of Yahweh and the Elohim - against the light-skinned races that were made there. Today it continues as the hatred between the semitic tribe of Jews against Arabs and other semites.
The history of how it came to be this way, no longer involving black people, is very long, spanning a period of 4,000 years. The events that actually led to the present state of affairs are themselves very simple and straightforward. But they happened over such a long period of time that the slow change was not seen until it had been completed. Briefly speaking, it happened in the following way:
When black people left the island to avoid having their children murdered, they took their religion with them, given to them by Yahweh. They practiced the religion in their new country where they settled, in the part of the Middle East today called Israel and Palestine. As the millennia went by, after about 2,000 years since black people left the island, the light-skinned races followed them and started settling in the Middle East, including in the land of Israel. Those who settled in Israel/Palestine quickly adopted the culture and religion of the black inhabitants, the original natives of that land. Their culture and religion was far superior to that of the races, and they couldn't help but adopt it.
The ancient hatred between them was soon rekindled. After many centuries, the original inhabitants of that area were outnumbered and overwhelmed by the hordes of arriving light-skinned people. Soon they were forced off their land. Some of them emigrated to Egypt, were they were given land by a benevolent Egyptian king of that time.
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Posted: Monday October 10th, 2005 00:31 |
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Rousengo wrote:
Peacemaker, I am really interested in this, I like to believe that the subconscious is the real me, what I have experienced as me, not as how my parents, neighbours, culture, society, siblings, teachers ,...wanted me to, what's your take on this?
Parents, neighbours, culture, society, siblings, teachers, education, religion, spiritual teachings, all have some effect on your subconscious. You'll probably even remember something they've said in passing 30 years down the line for no real reason you can think off.
It's not the real you so to speak, it is however what defines you and your perception of the world, its imagery even influences how you react to whatever life throws at you, in fact subconsciously we've already decided how to react to life situations, based on similar past experiences. The subconscious also doesn't know the differences between good and bad, and it is the source of your thinking, daydreams, and dream, so whatever you think of the most in life, your attitudes, beliefs, opinions etc, etc, is normally derived from whatever imagery you have stored in your subconscious, whether you've developed that imagery yourself or got it from your peers, media, and the rest, doesn't really matter. Bad people or evil people have mostly negative imagery influencing them, so-called good people have good imagery to influence them naturally. In my eyes there's little difference between the two. You can work out why based on what I've said here.
The people you share imagery with, or I should say the people who have their subconscious imagery arranged in a similar fashion are normally the people you get on with the most, i.e you have an affinity with them, and the ones that don't share your imagery, or have it arranged differently you won't like, or you will feel repelled by them. It's pretty much that simple. With understanding it's easy to think differently of all people whatever their station in life.
The soul, or pure consciousness, self, or whatever people call themselves thesedays is just along for the ride, because it doesn't know itself. Basically we could all end up believing anything if we don't know exactly how our own subconscious works. The souls only option is to follow whatever imagery the subconscious gives it, which in reality is the images we've got from life and other people. And we're are the ones who perpetuate that imagery regardless of whatever it is.
It's why folks even upto today have being saying "know thyself.", " becareful what you wish for", and "we judge ourselves" etc, etc. The subconscious is pretty much our own personal heaven or hell, depending on how we think in life.
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Posted: Wednesday October 12th, 2005 03:44 |
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Peacemaker:
I grant that what you say is presently true about the 'subconscious'. But I'll add two important points that are generally overlooked in this discussion:
1. The 'subconscious mind' as you have described it has not always been the way you observe it today. This is a very recent phenomenon in comparison to the length of our history on earth. As a matter of fact, it became this way starting only 50,000 years ago, but more especially so in the last 6,000 years. There was a great change in the human mind 6,000 years ago that is not observable by scientists in their theories of the 'evolution' of the human mind. This change was caused by a great change in our genetic structure, namely our DNA, that I'll discuss at length soon.
So today's 'subconscious mind', which you have analyzed quite accurately, is actually an anomaly.
2. Even today, the 'subconscious mind' as you've described it is not that way in all people. What causes this phenomenon in most people is the fact that generally speaking, we exist in a 'dreamy' kind of consciousness. Even in daytime wakefulness, most people are not entirely awake. Their memories are as hazy as those of their night dreams. But there are people in whom such is not the case. There are certain people in my culture that can be said to have total recall. Such people never forget anything they've ever experienced since their conception, beginning right in the womb, as soon as their nervous system could register stimuli. And by total recall I mean they are able to re-live their past experiences exactly as they happened then. Such people are not in that class you described, whose minds and actions are dictated by habits rising up from their repressed memories. They simply do not have any repressed memories. So their actions, decisions and reactions are genuine and new every moment, being dictated by their willful reaction to present situations, regardless of how they reacted in the past.
Those are the two points I wanted to add to your analysis.
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Posted: Wednesday October 12th, 2005 19:55 |
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The true Israelites - the chosen people of Yahweh. Part 6
During the time that they shared the land of Israel with the new-comers (the light races), the black inhabitants decided to hide the true practices of their religion from the hordes, who they knew would soon corrupt it. The true religion was thus made secret, and what was left for the masses was just superficial rites and practices.
These were adopted by the light races as their religion, and it became the new worship of Yahweh. Around 2,000 years ago, the last group of black people left the land of Israel during the Roman invasion. They crossed the land bridge to join their people in Egypt who had left earlier. Soon thereafter most of these black people, the descendents of Yahweh and the Elohim, migrated south and west into Africa, where they settled among the many African tribes who had been living there for many millennia. Their migration into the African continent occurred at the same time that the natives of Egypt also migrated deeper into Africa. They abandoned their great civilization after the invasion of the semites and others, mostly Persians, Greeks, and Romans.
By this time the religion of Yahweh had gone into such deep secrecy that it was practiced by only a few who were initiated into it. In the meantime, the superficial form of their religion had gained a large following among the semites who would later be known as Jews.
At the early period of the unfolding of these events, the name 'semites' did not yet exist. These people were simply known as the second race from the fact that they were the second to be made. But I use the name 'semite' because it defines them better than any other name in modern times. That race includes all the non-black people of today's middle east and north Africa, including P*kistanis, Persians, Jews, non-black Indians and so on.
The Jews corrupted the religion of Yahweh so much that it was barely recognizable by the time of Jesus 2,000 years ago. Today this corrupt version is being practiced in Israel and other places where Jews live and is called Judaism. The other semites, Arabs, Persians, etc, practice a version of Yahweh's religion that was brought much later by Muhammad.
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Posted: Thursday October 13th, 2005 22:25 |
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intrig wrote: Peacemaker:
I grant that what you say is presently true about the 'subconscious'. But I'll add two important points that are generally overlooked in this discussion:
1. The 'subconscious mind' as you have described it has not always been the way you observe it today. This is a very recent phenomenon in comparison to the length of our history on earth. As a matter of fact, it became this way starting only 50,000 years ago, but more especially so in the last 6,000 years. There was a great change in the human mind 6,000 years ago that is not observable by scientists in their theories of the 'evolution' of the human mind. This change was caused by a great change in our genetic structure, namely our DNA, that I'll discuss at length soon.
So today's 'subconscious mind', which you have analyzed quite accurately, is actually an anomaly.
DNA has nothing to do with the subconscious mind, period. The conscious mind is another matter.
2. Even today, the 'subconscious mind' as you've described it is not that way in all people. What causes this phenomenon in most people is the fact that generally speaking, we exist in a 'dreamy' kind of consciousness. Even in daytime wakefulness, most people are not entirely awake. Their memories are as hazy as those of their night dreams.
Life is but a dream as it has been said.
But there are people in whom such is not the case. There are certain people in my culture that can be said to have total recall. Such people never forget anything they've ever experienced since their conception, beginning right in the womb, as soon as their nervous system could register stimuli.
The soul doesn't enter the body until birth. So they ain't rembering anything from the womb. When a child is born they are crying for weeks on end for some, because they know what they've come back to. Thankfully we forget quite quickly at that age. And that's where the problems start. Your friends you've hinted at below are no exception.
And by total recall I mean they are able to re-live their past experiences exactly as they happened then. Such people are not in that class you described, whose minds and actions are dictated by habits rising up from their repressed memories.
You have to become that way, no one not born that way.
They simply do not have any repressed memories. So their actions, decisions and reactions are genuine and new every moment, being dictated by their willful reaction to present situations, regardless of how they reacted in the past.
Again you've got have made conscious effort in the past to become that way now. No one is born that way, if they were, they wouldn't need to be here in the first place.
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Posted: Thursday October 13th, 2005 22:41 |
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DNA has nothing to do with the subconscious mind, period. The conscious mind is another matter.
DNA has everything to do with how memory is preserved. What you call the subconscious memory was at one time conscous memory. After time, it became repressed and thus became 'subconscious', meaning below conscious.
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The soul doesn't enter the body until birth.
The soul is nothing other than personality. It does not 'enter' the body. It's formed anew, moment by moment, by each person.
What enters the body is the gift of ancestral memory, or what is commonly called the mind of God. It ALWAYS enters at conception, not at birth. It preserves and records all the baby's experiences while in the womb (and for the rest of his/her life). During certain rituals, it's quite easy for initiates to re-live these memories.
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Posted: Friday October 14th, 2005 18:49 |
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Peacemaker wrote:
When a child is born they are crying for weeks on end for some, because they know what they've come back to.
She cries because the doctor has metal forceps tight around her tender head, pulling hard. Then he grabs her by her tiny ankles and slaps her. No wonder they cry!
Your friends you've hinted at below are no exception.
I have witnessed many births were the child slides out effortlessly. After her eyes are wiped, she opens them, makes eye contact with her mother, and smiles. To us, that's the rule and not the exception.
You have to become that way, no one not born that way.
Correct.
Again you've got have made conscious effort in the past to become that way now.
Incorrect. This assumes that the mystical concept of reincarnation and karma is true. It is not. It's a complete fabrication. Every person born is brand new, never having lived before. It's God's way of renewing himself/herself. Only the mind of God, or as it's called, the spirit of God, is eternal in the person. It has no 'karma' and does not take part in the so-called 'spiritual evolution', which is a fallacy.
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Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2005 02:14 |
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intrig wrote:
She cries because the doctor has metal forceps tight around her tender head, pulling hard. Then he grabs her by her tiny ankles and slaps her. No wonder they cry!
I didn't.
I have witnessed many births were the child slides out effortlessly. After her eyes are wiped, she opens them, makes eye contact with her mother, and smiles. To us, that's the rule and not the exception.
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condolences.
Incorrect. This assumes that the mystical concept of reincarnation and karma is true. It is not.
The fact that you thought I was talking about karma says alot.
It's a complete fabrication. Every person born is brand new, never having lived before.
Wouldn't you like to think so, again my condolences.
It's God's way of renewing himself/herself.
Not helping yourself here either.
Only the mind of God
And again.
or as it's called, the spirit of God
Whoops.
is eternal in the person. It has no 'karma' and does not take part in the so-called 'spiritual evolution', which is a fallacy.
No one mentioned karma mate.
Worshiping the image of a man created being isn't helping matters.
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Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2005 02:20 |
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wat are the purpose of dreams?
anything to do with the sub conscious?
events that occour during the day?
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Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2005 02:27 |
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subway_junkie wrote: wat are the purpose of dreams?
To learn about yourself, and to make corrections.
anything to do with the sub conscious?
Everything to do with it.
events that occour during the day?
That and then some.
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Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2005 15:56 |
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Every person is brand new when born. That is true but only in that particular body.
Most of the times souls have lived before in another time and another body. The body and brain is brand new which is why its hard to remember past lives.
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Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2005 17:00 |
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INTRIG said:
"Incorrect. This assumes that the mystical concept of reincarnation and karma is true. It is not. It's a complete fabrication. Every person born is brand new, never having lived before. It's God's way of renewing himself/herself. Only the mind of God, or as it's called, the spirit of God, is eternal in the person. It has no 'karma' and does not take part in the so-called 'spiritual evolution', which is a fallacy."
You said that every black person was a reincarnation of one of the b8m gods, is that not true?? Is there a different type of reincarnation you speak about?
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Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2005 00:25 |
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rammcsnake wrote: Every person is brand new when born. That is true but only in that particular body.
Most of the times souls have lived before in another time and another body. The body and brain is brand new which is why its hard to remember past lives.
rammcsnake:
There is a confusion of words in the English language, where people sometimes speak interchangeably of the 'soul' and 'spirit'. Other times they speak of them in such a way that they mean two different things. So it's hard sometimes to know what a person is referring to when they say 'soul'.
In ancient times, the human entity was described as being made of three things, namely body, soul, and spirit (I'm using the English words, obviously. The ancient words are different). Obviously the ancients meant two different things by 'soul' and 'spirit', otherwise if they were the same, then the human entity would be made of two, not three things - either body and soul or body and spirit.
But it's clear that we are made of three, not two. The modern language defines them much more clearly.
We all know what the body is.
We also all know what personality is.
Thirdly, we all know what the mind is. (Even if we cannot quite define it, we use it, and are aware when we use it that we are using the mind, which is a different part of ourselves than our body or personality. Some call the mind consciousness).
The reality of these three things, body, personality, and mind, is clear to every normal person. So I'll put it to you that when the ancients spoke of body, soul, and spirit, they meant what we today call body, personality, and mind, or consciousness. In other words, by 'soul' they meant personality, and by spirit they meant mind or consciousness.
I'll also put it to you that no matter how hard you try, you will not find any other component of the human entity other than these three. (Some would suggest that 'life' is a fourth component.
Life is not a thing that we are uniquely composed of. Only these three define our uniqueness as individuals. Life is what unites the three and enables the human entity to live and function on earth.)
Now, if body, soul, and spirit mean body, personality, and mind, then where is the 'soul' that lived before? To say the 'soul' lived before is tantamount to saying our personality lived before, which is impossible because our personality is formed directly by our present experiences. We have no experiences when we are conceived. Conception is the starting point for every person, who then accumulates experiences that mold his/her unique personality or soul.
So when you refer to the soul as something that lived before, then surely by 'soul' you must mean 'spirit' or mind. The mind of God (or spirit of God as others call it, or consciousness of God) is the only eternal part of the human entity. It's the same in every black person because the b8m Gods live in a permanent state of divine unity.
To say that you yourself are the exact same person that lived before when the God incarnated previously is to diminish your unique individuality. Your ancestor that you deign to be you would also resent the diminishing of himself as a complete, unique individual.
You are a unique individual who has never lived before. Your experience of the world is totally brand new, uncontaminated by any previous experiences. And so is mine and everyone else. God who is incarnated in me and you wanted it that way, and has it that way for a simple reason: to experience himself anew.
If God brought a personality (soul) that has lived before into you, then the newness would surely be contaminated. The reason that compels a loving parent to allow his son to go out into the world and experience it for himself without undue influence from him, is the very same reason by which God will have it no other way than to bring new life to the world in the form of a brand new personality. This method makes sure that the re-discovery of God is 100% guaranteed to be a pure, new experience. Only in that does he find his whole delight and ecstasy.
If he were to form new personalities by mixing them with the 'souls' of dead persons, then this newness and uniqueness would be compromised.
And yet, that very same ancient God is incarnated in the new person as his/her Guide of Conscience. Each person is brought into the world to gain certain e | | | |
