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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 17:28 |
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 23:58 |
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By nature, no. But have not the Egyptians served many other gods, ones that could not protect nor insure their existence as a nation, and forgotten the God of their principle forefather, which at one ancient time all called upon?
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 01:43 |
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What in the world are you talking about? If longevity is the benchmark for the potency of a people’s god or gods, then the Egyptian gods have Yahweh beat by a factor of about 8 to 1. In case you have forgotten, the Egyptian civilization is by far the longest-lived civilization in Human history. There are still a few Egyptians left in Egypt, but for all intents, Hebrew’s are an extinct people.
As to Apedemak's question - Whatever your definition of evil may be, the belief or lack of belief, in a particular god or gods, does not make a person good or bad. That Spaniard or Portuguese, who first made your forefather a slave, was devoutly religious, as is that Muslin who wants to Blow you up.
In my own opinion, it is that preacher, priest or Imam, who tells you that belief in a particular god, and not eating a particular food, is what makes YOU a good person, and all others who don't do as he says are evil, it is he, who is really the truly evil person. By the way: has anyone ever heard of an Atheist Robbing, Raping or Blowing people up? Seems that is the sort of thing that the media would really jump on. Egyptians were just like us, except that they might have been a bit smarter.
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 11:01 |
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But look at what they've done...
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 23:18 |
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Hey; they lasted a long time, and if not for those crazy-ass Persians, they might still be with us today. And that would have kept Europeans out of Africa.
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Posted: Tuesday May 15th, 2007 10:52 |
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You think?
They were a bunch of show offs, flashy bstards, swear they were the most materialistic nation on planet earth and look where it got us. Dyamn Arabs and caucasians wouldn't have been able to attack us if the Kamu weren't so flashy, sharing everything with the Greeks and others... what, didn't they think they would attack them and use their own knowledge against them? Oh yeah, how enlightened, school up a bunch of desert rats and watch them twist versions of your way of life
If they were such masters of everything why didn't they forsee the consequences of their actions?
Makes me think they weren't so great anyway... Egypt was like a learning center, people brought their wisdom and knowledge there for others to mull over, concepts were shared and because it all happened there people think the Kamu were all that.
They more or less brought us into this mess, they gave the devil his tools and the Moors woke him up.
They're both a bunch of idtiots. God should've smited the egyptians for being so cocky.
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Posted: Tuesday May 15th, 2007 14:06 |
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It's hard to argue with you because certainly mistakes were made. As to the Greeks, it's got to be difficult to refuse to help people that worship you, and I thing that's how the Greeks got over. And you're right; it was the Meshwesh/Berbers/Moors (whichever name you like), who really opened the floodgates for the Greeks. But how come you have no blame for the Persians, it was really their foolish ways that brought everything to an end; they're really the ones who caused the collapse of Black rule. Plus: I don’t think that the ancient Black rulers of the world, ever really considered Whites to be capable of posing a serious threat to them or their rule.
But I’d like to go off in a slightly different direction now: Have you ever wondered when racism as we know it began? The other night, I was watching a TV Program about some headless Roman bodies found in York. The bodies were dated to the reign of Severus and his sons Caracalla and Geta (ca. 200 A.D.). What was interesting about the program was that it accurately showed Black Roman soldiers and commanders: As well as the fact that Geta – the Emperor to be - was half Black, (unfortunately they couldn’t go all the way, and show his mother as Black). Is it just a coincidence, or did this stuff only start showing up since the realhistoryww site came on-line, are they now covering their Asses?
Before that: I was looking through the realhistoryww site and saw some Etruscan tomb paintings. The paintings indicate that after their defeat at the hands of the Romans and Greeks, Etruscans and Whites lived pretty well together – mixed marriages seem to have been common. Then there is Shakespeare’s Othello – the Moor (ca. 1600): Othello is depicted as a wealthy and respected Black man in Europe. Maybe some of you with knowledge of pre-Atlantic Slave trade; racial history in Europe can help out here, but it seems that today’s virulent racism may have come about, as a result of that slave trade.
Could it be that Whites developed that racial attitude as a self defense mechanism? The perfect example is the Southern gentleman in the American South. They are famous for dueling at just the slightest hint of dishonor or disrespect. Now really, what kind of a serious man will put his life on the line, every time some fool says something that he doesn’t like? One who knows that he has NO HONOR! He knew that every bit of food that he put in his mouth; and every piece of clothing that he put on his back, was purchased with the misery and death of another human being. They knew what vile, miserable, worthless creatures they really were, so they made a great show, of defending an honor that they knew they did not have.
So is that how racism really came about, Whites trying to justify the benefits they derived from slavery, by dehumanizing Blacks?
Here’s a link to the Etruscan tomb paintings, you might find them interesting. http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_2.htm
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 11:34 |
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lol. Classic.
Can't chip the nose off of that one.
True the europeans colonialist endevors including the Maafa (I don't call it ''slavery'' it was all part of the same thing and the term is degrading) gave them complexes in attitude towards the people they subdued especially towards us, their society became ill, worse than any plague. Have said it on here before, I belive their twisted serial killers are a direct result of their past actions. We as Africans don't have the meticulous (sp) serial killers the caucasians suffer from within thier society taking out war and poverty as factors.
Those times in europe (1500s-1800s) were still their, ''dark'' ages, they were (trying to) adhere to chiristianity to such a point they became very twisted something thats still seen in the more backward parts of America. They'd ban books because it had a character named 'Mary' in it which was considered to be an insult, a time of paranoid witch hunts and executions. It was worse than what the Arabs ''suffer'' from today which is an odd twist of fate as it was them that eventually brought the europeans out of those times as they were stagnating, which is what I was saying about the Moors, they woke the europeans up, gave them the knowledge and power that they weild today. As they had African slaves and were attacking Africa at that time I belive the Moors & Arabs are largely to blame for the Maafa and the situatino we are in today, they gave the europeans the idea to take advantage of us to boost their economy and are doing the same themselves. Those dark ages were also the times where devil worship came about in europe. Their strict religious laws made people deviate sexually (peados) and spiritually, people would be surprised to read into characters like Crowley and find that he hated his own people (the english) with a passion, thought the same of them as we do today. Sophisticatedly ignorant.
Drifting. lol
Thing about the Maafa and their colonial endevors in regards to racism is that not all of them were involved during that time. The Eastern European countries weren't involved or half as involved as the more mainland countries were and I wouldn't wallk the streets alone in those places. The Russians didn't/don't have to degrade us to continue exploiting us in any way. The Greeks are even melinated, go there and they toot their horns at you down the street, slur ancient paintings of darkskinned people with rubbish statements about how the artist had run out of paint and used brown paint for no apparent reason. Granted the Arabs have been attacking us for the past God knows how long and have made their own excuses to convince themselves of their actions but we're not the only ones buying up the bleaching creme and hair straighting products put it that way.
Self hatred, an inferiority complex, have noticed on a personal level that they feel intimidated by us which may be down to them lacking in melanin content. You have brown bread and you have the flour refined white bread one is natural, one just isn't healthy for you. Brown sugar, white sugar... and thats not some kind of personal boost, people always drag up thoughts of white nationalism when they hear things like that. Unlike them we/I don't have a need to look down on others enough to create theories on an apparent superiorty it'd mean having to live a constant lie to uphold it.
In my opinion they suffer from a cultural and physical envy, deep down inside they know who we are to them and their, ''racism'' is them attempting to post themselves up somewhere in comparison to us. No plant or animal is naturally white, in fact being white isn't even a state to exsist in. Polar bears for example have black skin, their fur is transparent, not white. There are animals in deep caves that are colourless, white, albino versions of their open field counterparts that have lost their colour over time. No doubt their illness and imbalance would serve them well if they became numerous and used it to attack other animals, sitting with them as brothers before letting loose some skitzoid manner focusing their inventions on weapons of war, redefining greatness by who has the biggest bomb in pure intimidation of their neighbours.
At the moment the only real hold they have on us is an educational one, once we start inventing and creating again they'll fall back into their place behind the Chinese, Asians and us in educational reveiws and on the global stage. Last edited on Wednesday May 16th, 2007 11:36 by Apedemak
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 11:40 |
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Have been meaning to get through that website btw... was that you replying to my email?
Anyway, its not possible to print it out without loosing some of the content or cut and paste it all onto word and the owners are afraid someone might steal the knowledge or something. Told them they should make it into a PDF/Word document for people to download, could ingrain their website details in the background if they wanted to. Otherwise it seems like you can only cut and paste it into a text document to print which means loosing the pictures.
Should make it all into a book.
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 13:42 |
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HLF wrote: By nature, no. But have not the Egyptians served many other gods, ones that could not protect nor insure their existence as a nation, and forgotten the God of their principle forefather, which at one ancient time all called upon?
..........Co-sign
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 14:10 |
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Please see response to HLF above.
You might have tried adding something new.
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 14:56 |
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The reason the current people in Greece can show such disrespect for ancient Greeks (Black and White), is because for the most part, they are NOT related to either.
There was an influx of large numbers of Slavs during the late 6th–8th centuries as well as the migration across Greece of nomadic pastoral groups such as the Vlachs from the 10th or 11th century, and the Albanians from the 13th century, not to mention, the ever present Turks.
So it is that as in Egypt, you get all of these sh*t-faced people hawking trinkets and talking trash, when in reality they are all only squatters.
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 17:18 |
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HLF wrote: By nature, no. But have not the Egyptians served many other gods, ones that could not protect nor insure their existence as a nation, and forgotten the God of their principle forefather, which at one ancient time all called upon?
I hate this Bible-based psycho babble. What your statement implies is that since the people of Kemet were not worshipping Yahweh (who didn't exist at the time) so there civilization was not protected (by God) from ruin. Well I'm here to tell you that it is just the ebb and flow of nature. All civilizations rise in fall. As a matter of fact, after Roman mandated Christianity as its religion it degraded soon after. Only Ethiopia has outlasted Egypt in duration of a continuous civilization where it lasted at least 4,000 years we can scientifically verify, but their Kemetic oral tradition and record goes back to almost 13,000 years ago. Does any other nation in the history of Earth (again besides Ethiopia) have a longer duration? So how can one ask such an insipid question about God not protecting their nation when not a single nation in all of history and time comes close to its prominence and longevity?
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 17:42 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: HLF wrote: By nature, no. But have not the Egyptians served many other gods, ones that could not protect nor insure their existence as a nation, and forgotten the God of their principle forefather, which at one ancient time all called upon?
I hate this Bible-based psycho babble. What your statement implies is that since the people of Kemet were not worshipping Yahweh (who didn't exist at the time) so there civilization was not protected (by God) from ruin. Well I'm here to tell you that it is just the ebb and flow of nature. All civilizations rise in fall. As a matter of fact, after Roman mandated Christianity as its religion it degraded soon after. Only Ethiopia has outlasted Egypt in duration of a continuous civilization where it lasted at least 4,000 years we can scientifically verify, but their Kemetic oral tradition and record goes back to almost 13,000 years ago. Does any other nation in the history of Earth (again besides Ethiopia) have a longer duration? So how can one ask such an insipid question about God not protecting their nation when not a single nation in all of history and time comes close to its prominence and longevity?
Good point.
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Posted: Saturday May 19th, 2007 00:08 |
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Jim999 wrote: HLF
What in the world are you talking about? If longevity is the benchmark for the potency of a people’s god or gods, then the Egyptian gods have Yahweh beat by a factor of about 8 to 1. In case you have forgotten, the Egyptian civilization is by far the longest-lived civilization in Human history. There are still a few Egyptians left in Egypt, but for all intents, Hebrew’s are an extinct people.
Something you apparently lack, spiritual understanding. By the way, I still suspect you as a white person. If so, disregard because I would be wasting my time speaking of spiritual things to you.
All creations have a source just as original man has a creator. I am not speaking of gods created by man, once again, if the Egyptian's gods could protect them, then why doesn't Kemit stand today as it once did? I'm talking about having their own land of their ownership without much financial help from the outside, not being a sojourner in a land that their ancestors once controlled. Both the Egyptians and the Hebrews worshipped other gods, but the main difference is that Hebrews did hold up their end of the covenant, which from both the Hebrews and the Egyptians spiritual apostasy caused for the collaspe of their kingdoms. White people were but a tool for that collaspe and only a tool in their "stature" until this day....but the times are changing and people are coming back into the Divine knowledge of Spiritual truth. That means the simultaneous fall of the rule of the abnormal ones, for can the abnormal ones rule over any people with Spiritual fortitude and the favor and blessings of the true One God? You will see. If you lack spiritual foresight, then allow the experience to reveal itself to you....that is all you have anyway, "seeing is believing (in the physical)". This all depends on deeply and how far you see...in chronology.
The descendents of the Egyptians exist today just like the Hebrews still do. You want to believe that the Hebrews are gone, but guess what? The people who were anointed to carry and speak the WORD will always be. You will see.
I hate this Bible-based psycho babble. What your statement implies is that since the people of Kemet were not worshipping Yahweh (who didn't exist at the time) so there civilization was not protected (by God) from ruin. Well I'm here to tell you that it is just the ebb and flow of nature. All civilizations rise in fall. As a matter of fact, after Roman mandated Christianity as its religion it degraded soon after. Only Ethiopia has outlasted Egypt in duration of a continuous civilization where it lasted at least 4,000 years we can scientifically verify, but their Kemetic oral tradition and record goes back to almost 13,000 years ago. Does any other nation in the history of Earth (again besides Ethiopia) have a longer duration? So how can one ask such an insipid question about God not protecting their nation when not a single nation in all of history and time comes close to its prominence and longevity?
White snake, how are things going for you? Another unspiritual one, we all know you hate any notion of the existence of God. You say Yahweh didn't exist just like people say today there is no one spearheading the onslaught of wickedness within this world (aka Satan). My point was that their spirituality was missing something, missing the Source to all the knowledge that they have been given; the farther away from the root, the longer and harder the fall. Although Ethiopia is still a nation, still in the same "economic hands" of the people who "control" the land of Egypt today(not exactly the ancestors), what they have been able to do is perserve some parts of the Spiritual truth throughout the ages, although not still in whole form as of yet, but the knowledge most worth having is that which must be searched for and rebuilt.
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Posted: Saturday May 19th, 2007 01:20 |
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White snake, how are things going for you? Another unspiritual one, we all know you hate any notion of the existence of God. You say Yahweh didn't exist just like people say today there is no one spearheading the onslaught of wickedness within this world (aka Satan). My point was that their spirituality was missing something, missing the Source to all the knowledge that they have been given; the farther away from the root, the longer and harder the fall. Although Ethiopia is still a nation, still in the same "economic hands" of the people who "control" the land of Egypt today(not exactly the ancestors), what they have been able to do is perserve some parts of the Spiritual truth throughout the ages, although not still in whole form as of yet, but the knowledge most worth having is that which must be searched for and rebuilt.

More psycho-babble...
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Posted: Saturday May 19th, 2007 15:02 |
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HLF;
First let me say that I really don’t have any answers; I basically just have a lot of questions. You see; people like me see a screwed-up hostile-to-Black-people world, and wonder how did this happen. Then we start looking for truthful answers. People like you, do not look for answers; you simply accept whatever you are told, and do whatever you are told to do. In essence there is really no difference between you and the Muslim Bomber who expects to go to heaven and get nine virgins after the deed is done. If a trusted religious person told you that God wanted you to do things like that, you probably would.
It would probably never occur to you to ask: HOW does he know what God wants, he’s just a guy like me, how does he know that, did God personally speak to him. Should you ever get to the point where you start asking questions like that: then you are on your way. By the way, your Preacher knows what he knows, the same way that you do. It’s what he was taught by his White religious Masters. You won’t find many (if any), who have taken the trouble to research any of it on their own. As a test, ask him: who wrote the Bible and when, then go and find out for yourself.
You say that you suspect that I am White: there is nothing in anything that I have written that would suggest that I am White. But what I have written is not what you are building you assumption on, is it? I seem thoughtful, maybe even educated, my English and diction are good, I show concern for the plight of Black people, I even go to the trouble of using my spell checker – DAMN-IT I MUST BE WHITE! Glad that you told me.
That is why I usually try to include a link to the realhistoryww site. Negroes really need to find a NEW way to THINK about THEMSELVES, the proof is there, do try to read it - should you ever tire of allowing yourself to be defined by Whites. But you probably won’t, because you fear that it will cause you to question the world that you have built in your mind, with the help of the White mans religion. You are right, it will, that’s the whole idea. http://www.realhistoryww.com
In reading some of the threads in this Spirituality & Religion section, it occurred to me that what Negroes really need to do is exercise a lot more restraint and do a lot more pondering and wondering. For instance, consider what I find typical of the essence of Black and White spirituality: The Negro often says, “Praise God, Thank you Lord, God is Good, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. The last part makes perfect sense: As a Black person, you are a member of the most despised group on the planet. Neither Whites, nor Mongols want anything to do with you, yet it is these very same people that you take spiritual guidance from.
You are very right to ask for Mercy! You might also want to ask for a brain while you are at it, (doesn’t anyone ever wonder how it must look to the rest of the world, that here it is, the people on the BOTTOM, with the least – appear to be the most grateful – makes them wonder if you got good sense!). By the way, why are you thanking God for putting you in this predicament? Shouldn’t it be Whites doing that, he gave them a whole lot more than he gave to you – maybe not originally, but certainly now – HLF; do tell us how we sinned. Or is it that you hope that they will take pity on you for being Sooo GOOD – there it is again – they cry: Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. Gotta love them true-blue Negroes.
On the other hand, lets consider the typical White religious phrase: “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition� (for those not in America – take my word for it). Those of you with the ability, please think about the difference in attitude and prospective. One is begging for Mercy and thanking God for having less, while the other is taking personal responsibility for what may happen to him, and is willing to fight for his share. Kinda explains it all – doesn’t it.
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Posted: Sunday May 20th, 2007 06:10 |
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Jim999 wrote: HLF;
First let me say that I really don’t have any answers; I basically just have a lot of questions. You see; people like me see a screwed-up hostile-to-Black-people world, and wonder how did this happen. Then we start looking for truthful answers. People like you, do not look for answers; you simply accept whatever you are told, and do whatever you are told to do. In essence there is really no difference between you and the Muslim Bomber who expects to go to heaven and get nine virgins after the deed is done. If a trusted religious person told you that God wanted you to do things like that, you probably would.
It would probably never occur to you to ask: HOW does he know what God wants, he’s just a guy like me, how does he know that, did God personally speak to him. Should you ever get to the point where you start asking questions like that: then you are on your way. By the way, your Preacher knows what he knows, the same way that you do. It’s what he was taught by his White religious Masters. You won’t find many (if any), who have taken the trouble to research any of it on their own. As a test, ask him: who wrote the Bible and when, then go and find out for yourself.
You say that you suspect that I am White: there is nothing in anything that I have written that would suggest that I am White. But what I have written is not what you are building you assumption on, is it? I seem thoughtful, maybe even educated, my English and diction are good, I show concern for the plight of Black people, I even go to the trouble of using my spell checker – DAMN-IT I MUST BE WHITE! Glad that you told me.
That is why I usually try to include a link to the realhistoryww site. Negroes really need to find a NEW way to THINK about THEMSELVES, the proof is there, do try to read it - should you ever tire of allowing yourself to be defined by Whites. But you probably won’t, because you fear that it will cause you to question the world that you have built in your mind, with the help of the White mans religion. You are right, it will, that’s the whole idea. http://www.realhistoryww.com
In reading some of the threads in this Spirituality & Religion section, it occurred to me that what Negroes really need to do is exercise a lot more restraint and do a lot more pondering and wondering. For instance, consider what I find typical of the essence of Black and White spirituality: The Negro often says, “Praise God, Thank you Lord, God is Good, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. The last part makes perfect sense: As a Black person, you are a member of the most despised group on the planet. Neither Whites, nor Mongols want anything to do with you, yet it is these very same people that you take spiritual guidance from.
You are very right to ask for Mercy! You might also want to ask for a brain while you are at it, (doesn’t anyone ever wonder how it must look to the rest of the world, that here it is, the people on the BOTTOM, with the least – appear to be the most grateful – makes them wonder if you got good sense!). By the way, why are you thanking God for putting you in this predicament? Shouldn’t it be Whites doing that, he gave them a whole lot more than he gave to you – maybe not originally, but certainly now – HLF; do tell us how we sinned. Or is it that you hope that they will take pity on you for being Sooo GOOD – there it is again – they cry: Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. Gotta love them true-blue Negroes.
On the other hand, lets consider the typical White religious phrase: “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition� (for those not in America – take my word for it). Those of you with the ability, please think about the difference in attitude and prospective. One is begging for Mercy and thanking God for having less, while the other is taking personal responsibility for what may happen to him, and is willing to fight for his share. Kinda explains it all – doesn’t it.
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Jim,
I think you raise some interesting points but still have some misconceptions. When black people ask God for mercy, it is not because we are the most oppressed people on the earth, white and asian Christians do the same. Asking God for mercy is based on a recognition of our faults, not our righteousness, as if to say that we ask for for such and such, not because we deserve it, but because of his grace and mercy. This may seem strange to you, but if you actually read the moral standards required in the bible in both the "OT" and the "NT", you will see that God is quite demanding of believers, yet he hasn't left us unaided (but that is a separate story).
The Christians who want ammunition to fight and kill, are often regarded as extremists, it is interesting to see that you pointed out HLF as being like a muslim bomber, but then say of people who want guns and ammunition that they are "taking personal responsibility for what may happen to [them], and [are] willing to fight for [their] share." It is a bit of a grey area isn't it? For me the extremists who want to use force to protect their beliefs can not find a remit for this in the scriptures, they have distorted the Word of God to promote their own beliefs, and this is a prime example of people making God in their own image, rather than people believing in God, that he as created us in his image.
I do very much agree that a lot of people just beleive what they are taught without trying to look things up and evaluate truth for themselves, black people do need to re-evaluate the scriptures to find an objective truth, and even then if we have that objective truth defined, we are still living in a society with a white power base, and the truth can only get you so far in a land controlled by a power base that suppresses anything it sees as a threat, even if that threat is merely people of a different race trying to live peaceably within the scope of its own self determination (rather than what the predominat ideology of society wants to portray us as). Is the answer religions defined or re-defined by black people, in lands where black people own the power base? Or do we struggle on to take our share in the power base in the places where we remain as part of the Diaspora?
Blessings...
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:
More psycho-babble...
What is psycho-babble to the foolish is wisdom to the wise who understands(who seeks and knows the truth). The thing is that you do understand to some varying degree, yet the reason you react in the way you do.
Jim999 wrote: HLF;
First let me say that I really don’t have any answers; I basically just have a lot of questions. You see; people like me see a screwed-up hostile-to-Black-people world, and wonder how did this happen. Then we start looking for truthful answers. People like you, do not look for answers; you simply accept whatever you are told, and do whatever you are told to do. In essence there is really no difference between you and the Muslim Bomber who expects to go to heaven and get nine virgins after the deed is done. If a trusted religious person told you that God wanted you to do things like that, you probably would.
No one who seeks truthful answers would be without understanding in that which they seek. Have you ever wondered why the world is hostile to black people? Have you found answer why the world would be hostile to the very people that all the variations of man sprung from? Have you found your answer or is your desire not high enough, most people never find the answer for this very reason, not enough desire.
There is a very defined difference between a muslim and I. A muslim is religious and I am spiritual, do you understand the difference, it is far deeper than what is appears on the surface, for people that don't know the difference they both look the same, but they are intrinsically NOT the same. One knows the other believes, one sees and the other is blind, one is aware of the solution and all the other sees is the problems....
It would probably never occur to you to ask: HOW does he know what God wants, he’s just a guy like me, how does he know that, did God personally speak to him. Should you ever get to the point where you start asking questions like that: then you are on your way. By the way, your Preacher knows what he knows, the same way that you do. It’s what he was taught by his White religious Masters. You won’t find many (if any), who have taken the trouble to research any of it on their own. As a test, ask him: who wrote the Bible and when, then go and find out for yourself.
I have no preacher, no leader besides The Source (the same God now as was before the beginning of the creation of time). An important understanding; anyone just like you will never know what God wants until you seek to know exactly what God wants with your whole heart, with much desire. If your heart is impure, then it will bar you from getting the answers that you seek...but all the answers are right under you nose and you just don't see it yet.
You say that you suspect that I am White: there is nothing in anything that I have written that would suggest that I am White. But what I have written is not what you are building you assumption on, is it? I seem thoughtful, maybe even educated, my English and diction are good, I show concern for the plight of Black people, I even go to the trouble of using my spell checker – DAMN-IT I MUST BE WHITE! Glad that you told me.
The reason I suspected you were white? The way you talked outside of black people, like you are not like those blessed with melanin, in the least not like melanin blessed people in spirit, then you didn't answer if I remember correctly.
If you are educated and you english and diction are good, good for you, but the real education is understanding the plight of black people, understanding self and the origins of spirit, understanding your own as you understand yourself, if you understand yourself.
That is why I usually try to include a link to the realhistoryww site. Negroes really need to find a NEW way to THINK about THEMSELVES, the proof is there, do try to read it - should you ever tire of allowing yourself to be defined by Whites. But you probably won’t, because you fear that it will cause you to question the world that you have built in your mind, with the help of the White mans religion. You are right, it will, that’s the whole idea. http://www.realhistoryww.com
I'll check out the site and I will come back to you on it as well. Hey, questioning is a part of my nature, I wouldn't come across what I have if I haven't been constantly asking an on-going series of questions.
In reading some of the threads in this Spirituality & Religion section, it occurred to me that what Negroes really need to do is exercise a lot more restraint and do a lot more pondering and wondering. For instance, consider what I find typical of the essence of Black and White spirituality: The Negro often says, “Praise God, Thank you Lord, God is Good, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. Th
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