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Posted: Sunday July 9th, 2006 20:49 |
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...to Denigration
One of the Ten Commandments is "Thou Shall Not Take The Name Of The Lord Thy God In Vain." However, the racist term N****r, which is a derivative of the original name for GOD, N-G-R [pronounced Net-ger], has been used continuously as a racist, corrupt term to insult, degrade and provoke Black people.
N****r comes from the Egyptian word Net-yer or Net-ger for GOD, having its origins in the sacred, divine title for GOD. Words like nature and nurture come from this very root, so the idea of GOD being nature or nature being GOD and other expressions that describe the various characteristics of the GODHEAD, stem from the Black Afrikan and Egyptian concept of what GOD is.
The ancient Egyptians also called their Pharaohs N-G-R (Net-ger), because the original Egyptians Pharaohs who were pure Black Afrikans, not only saw Black skin as sacred but also as a direct blessing from the sun GOD Aten {i.e. another adjective of the ONE GOD, my insert} They saw themselves as representatives of the sun and the sun GOD, so Blackness and Black skin were associated with GOD and the sun. The recognition of Pharaoh as a living embodiment of GOD and the Black skin as a blessing, quickly spread around the world to other cultures, and Neg-ger became the Ethiopian Negus (Emperor) or Negashi (King).
Q. So how did this word for GOD, N-G-R become N****r, Negro and Niger?
Well the Roman invaders of Egypt, who would have heard the term used to describe the leaders of Egypt or Nubia, were the first people to corrupt the tern N-G-R. The Latin term Niger, which means Black or Negro, was then used to refer to any Black or Negroid person that the Romans saw in Afrika or anywhere else. Before the time of Shakespeare, the term used for Black people in England was Moor or Black-A-Moor.
The Romans then colonized and spread the Latin language to Europe, and because of this linguistic influence, the Latin term Niger became Negre in French and Negro in Spanish. The English colonialists and slave owners later borrowed the term Negro from the Spanish, and then proceeded to degrade and defile the entire name first by enslaving Negroes and then by converting the original term Ned-ger or GOD into the racist term N****r. So while oppressing GOD's original created people of the earth, they have been insulting GOD's sacred name as well, a phobia that is due to their {i.e. own, my insert} sense of inferiority. This is the origin of the N word, so always remember that the word N****r came from the Khemite or Egyptian term N-G-R or NET-GER/NET-YER for GOD.
In the Black languages of India, which is part of the Cush-ite branch of the Afrikan languages, the term Naga signifies original or first, so in ancient India the people with the Blackest skins were respected and held in high esteem until the racist, colonists, alien concept of varna, the caste colour racism of the Aryan barbarians, placed the Sudroids, Negro Tribals, Black Australoids, Indo-Negroids, Dalits, and other Negroids at the extreme bottom of Indian society, a cause against which the Buddha (i.e. who was a Black man, my insert) fought.
First Source: http://www.blackhistoryjohnmoore.bravehost.com/chapter3.html -- "The Degradation of the sacred word N-G-R" by John R. Moore
Second Source: http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/127
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Posted: Tuesday July 11th, 2006 13:01 |
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Good topic, but I think it has left the meaning of "n-g-r" or "n-t-g-r" rather ambiguous. This article seems to imply that the term "ngr" originally referred to blackness, when in fact, it only referred to the neter of the River Nile where "neter" is often translated as "god" by Eurocentric (or Western influenced) scholars.
Here is an excerpt of a thread I started some months back (that didn't get much play):
The first example we have is Neg meaning "great" (or representing the divine aspect of the might of a bull) and Ar meaning "river" gives us something like Neg-Ar; thus literally meaning "great/mighty river."
The second example shows Net meaning "stream/water" and also a neter (divine aspect) of the Nile river combined with Gerh who was a neter of one of the 4 principle elements in Kemetic mythos. These together make something like Net-Gerh, which has several meanings all revolving around the greatness or divine aspects of the Nile River.
[the full thread here: http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/forum26/19578.html]
Anyhow, I just think it is important to distinguish the meaning of the word to prevent ignorant African folks from misinterpreting it and feeling it is reason for them to use the N-word gratuitously.
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Posted: Tuesday July 11th, 2006 18:00 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti said: "Good topic, but I think it has left the meaning of "n-g-r" or "n-t-g-r" rather ambiguous."
Your response is interesting and appreciated. However, I disagree with your initial sentence. As both sources state quite frankly that the meaning "initially" meant GOD.
Shemsi en Tehuti said: Anyhow, I just think it is important to distinguish the meaning of the word to prevent ignorant African folks from misinterpreting it and feeling it is reason for them to use the N-word gratuitously.
Ah, this is in fact--the main reason both authors bothered to research and write what they did, within the context of that they did--To show that the word has a higher more sacred meaning and should be used with a grain of salt.
And this is the reason I took the time to cut and paste the information to this forum. Hoping Afrikan folks would grasp the real meaning of the word and not use it so flagrantly as before and maybe even stop saying it altogether....!
Your response was great!
Thanks
Last edited on Tuesday July 11th, 2006 18:02 by Fine1952
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Posted: Tuesday July 11th, 2006 20:06 |
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You are right that it says the term means "God" but as I read on, this particular statement made it rather ambiguous to me...
The ancient Egyptians also called their Pharaohs N-G-R (Net-ger), because the original Egyptians Pharaohs who were pure Black Afrikans, not only saw Black skin as sacred but also as a direct blessing from the sun GOD Aten {i.e. another adjective of the ONE GOD, my insert} They saw themselves as representatives of the sun and the sun GOD, so Blackness and Black skin were associated with GOD and the sun. The recognition of Pharaoh as a living embodiment of GOD and the Black skin as a blessing
...I understand what you and the authors are saying though. I just remember showing this information to one misguided brother and he took it as cultural justification to use the N word. All I could do is shake my head. So I certainly didn't mean to sound criticizing here, but I have just learned from personal experience to be more careful and thorough with this particular topic. Anyhow, great thread...
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Posted: Wednesday July 12th, 2006 00:09 |
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By the name you have chosen "I know" it is not in your mental nature to critcize what these two authors have so brilliantly put together. Therefore, I fully understand what you meant in your first reply.
How, sad it is that in 2006 that black men like the one you described still cannot comprehend the full scope of what this knowledge really holds: That is, that they have been using this term out of context w/o knowing its full content.
Of course, it doesn't help to know the cultural collusion that went into the distortion process of the word in the first place.
In all likelihood maybe young men like the one you describe just are not ready for this type of information until they have obtained a larger grasp on the cultural makeup of historical history, per se.
Common sense when exposed to intellectual knowledge is not guaranteed to yield the necessary results for everyone. 
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