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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 15:36 |
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The Fall of America
Chapter 14
Every Nation Has A Term
1 "And every nation has a term; so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." - Holy Qur’an 7:34.
2 There was a term for the people of Noah, Lot, and Moses. This also holds true in the life and death of individuals - all is under the control of Almighty Allah - especially when a divine beginning and ending has been appointed for the accomplishment of a certain work that must be done by the life or the life of peoples.
3 The above chapter and verse of the Holy Qur’an is a warning to the present nation whose term is now coming to an end. If we know what is said to us and what is written by the prophets for us to read, study and ponder over, and if we understand, we should not fall victims to misunderstanding and disbelief. ...
39 Read the following passages of your Bible which dwells on the time and yourselves: Prov. 14:12, 19:20, 25:8, Isa. 9:7, 46:10, 2:19, Eze. 7:2, 3, 21:25, 35:5, Dan. 5:6, 11:45, I Pet. 4:7, Rev. 21:6, 22:13.
40 Holy Qur’an translation by Maulana Muhammad Ali - Chapters 104:1-7, 75:1-15, 35:40, 7:22, 103:2, 4:117-120, 7:20,21.
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 15:53 |
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Who wrote this book "fall of America", what is his credentials, how do we know they are true, what is your evidence, what is your proof?
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 15:58 |
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MR. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD(PBUH) IS THE AUTHOR.
what is your evidence, what is your proof?
"And every nation has a term; so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." - Holy Qur’an 7:34.
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 16:01 |
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Anybody can quote the Qur'an. It is not the verse that is in question!
You have not stated his credentials, or proven them to be true. Therefore, how can you expect people to follow/acknowledge any interpretation he offers?
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 16:14 |
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jamal786 wrote: Anybody can quote the Qur'an. It is not the verse that is in question!
You have not stated his credentials, or proven them to be true. Therefore, how can you expect people to follow/acknowledge any interpretation he offers?
I DO NOT BELIEVE HIS "CREDENTIALS" MATTER.
THE WRITING IS BASED ON A QUOTE FROM,THE QUR'AN.
ONE DOES NOT NEED TO BE A "ROCKET SCIENTIST" TO INTERPRET IT'S MEANING.
"And every nation has a term; so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." - Holy Qur’an 7:34.
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 16:19 |
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That would depend on what the interpretation was!
If i was to fly a rocket, i would want certain factors interpreted by a rocket scientist, and not by a used-car salesman or convicted criminal... for example!.... even if they was not the latter, credentials would matter!
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 16:38 |
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WELL, LET US SEE, HOW DIFFICULT THIS IS TO, INERPRET...
"And every nation has a term; so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." - Holy Qur’an 7:34.
And every nation has a term---THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE U.S.
so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." ---DOES ONE NEED TO BE A "ROCKET SCIENTIST TO, UNDERSTAND THIS?
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 16:49 |
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I refer to my previous response!
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 17:25 |
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If i was to fly a rocket...
MAYBE, YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN. WE ARE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING A VERSE FROM THE QUR'AN.
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 18:41 |
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An following the Qur'an is a bigger matter then flying a rocket, or even life or death..... which is why we must be sure that those that "interpret verses for us are qualified to do so, and are doing so correctly. Or do you disagree?
What is elijah muhammads credentials, and how do you know he is interpreting meanings correctly??
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:10 |
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WHAT IS SO F'N HARD TO INTERPRET?
"And every nation has a term; so when its term comes, they cannot remain behind the least while, nor can they precede (it)." - Holy Qur’an 7:34.
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:10 |
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"...Now instead of continuing to look like a complete idiot why not try answering questions instead of using avoidance techniques which the mentally inept use to save face. ..."
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:22 |
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WE ARE ALL AWARE, WHO THE MODERN "BABYLON" IS...
yet, some so-called "orthodox" Muslims attempt to defend this "Babylon". WHY?...
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YUSUFALI: Thou art but a Warner for such as fear it.
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YUSUFALI: Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with Allah alone: I am (sent) only to warn plainly in public."
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YUSUFALI: Therein will they cry aloud (for assistance): "Our Lord! Bring us out: we shall work righteousness, not the (deeds) we used to do!" - "Did We not give you long enough life so that he that would should receive admonition? and (moreover) the warner came to you. So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds): for the wrong-doers there is no helper."
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:26 |
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"avoidence techniques"....!...
You'd know all abouut that wouldnt you..
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:28 |
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SOLOMON wrote: WE ARE ALL AWARE, WHO THE MODERN "BABYLON" IS...
yet, some so-called "orthodox" Muslims attempt to defend this "Babylon". WHY?...
079.045
YUSUFALI: Thou art but a Warner for such as fear it.
067.026
YUSUFALI: Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with Allah alone: I am (sent) only to warn plainly in public."
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YUSUFALI: Therein will they cry aloud (for assistance): "Our Lord! Bring us out: we shall work righteousness, not the (deeds) we used to do!" - "Did We not give you long enough life so that he that would should receive admonition? and (moreover) the warner came to you. So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds): for the wrong-doers there is no helper."
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 20:47 |
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Really!
Do you think thats just as intresting/surprising as....
..some 'nation of islam' cult members believe that elijah muhammad was a
messenger of Allah, Allah is a man and people, and believe in whatever elijah muhammad has said....
WHY!
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 22:48 |
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SOLOMON wrote: SOLOMON wrote: WE ARE ALL AWARE, WHO THE MODERN "BABYLON" IS...
yet, some so-called "orthodox" Muslims attempt to defend this "Babylon". WHY?...
079.045
YUSUFALI: Thou art but a Warner for such as fear it.
067.026
YUSUFALI: Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with Allah alone: I am (sent) only to warn plainly in public."
035.037
YUSUFALI: Therein will they cry aloud (for assistance): "Our Lord! Bring us out: we shall work righteousness, not the (deeds) we used to do!" - "Did We not give you long enough life so that he that would should receive admonition? and (moreover) the warner came to you. So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds): for the wrong-doers there is no helper."
why do you contiuosly attempt avoiding to answer the question?
 CORRECTION_ON TOPIC!
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Posted: Saturday July 9th, 2005 23:32 |
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i could say the same to you:
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Posted: Sunday July 10th, 2005 00:01 |
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SOLOMON wrote: SOLOMON wrote: SOLOMON wrote: WE ARE ALL AWARE, WHO THE MODERN "BABYLON" IS...
yet, some so-called "orthodox" Muslims attempt to defend this "Babylon". WHY?...
079.045
YUSUFALI: Thou art but a Warner for such as fear it.
067.026
YUSUFALI: Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with Allah alone: I am (sent) only to warn plainly in public."
035.037
YUSUFALI: Therein will they cry aloud (for assistance): "Our Lord! Bring us out: we shall work righteousness, not the (deeds) we used to do!" - "Did We not give you long enough life so that he that would should receive admonition? and (moreover) the warner came to you. So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds): for the wrong-doers there is no helper."
why do you contiuosly attempt avoiding to answer the question?
CORRECTION_ON TOPIC!
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Posted: Sunday July 10th, 2005 00:38 |
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..so who is the modern "babylon"?
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Posted: Sunday July 10th, 2005 04:16 |
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jamal786 wrote: ..so who is the modern "babylon"?
DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO ASK?
the U.S, THE MOST EVIL NATION TO EVER EXIST, SINCE THE CAUCASIANS STARTED RECORDING HISTORY.
YET, WHEN YOU HEAR OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE EVIL DOER, YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO DEFEND HIM.
AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO STATE, YOU ARE ONE WHO "SUBMITS TO THE WILL OF GOD"?       
SHAKIR: Surely those who disbelieve shall be cried out to: Certainly Allah's hatred (of you) when you were called upon to the faith and you rejected, is much greater than your hatred of yourselves. 040.010
Surah 26. The Poets
194 .To thy heart and mind, that thou mayest admonish.
195. In the perspicuous Arabic tongue.
196. Without doubt it is (announced) in the mystic Books of former peoples.
177. Behold, Shu'aib said to them: "Will ye not fear ((Allah))?
178. "I am to you worthy of all trust.
179. "So fear Allah and obey me.
180. "No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds.
181. "Give just measure, and cause no loss (to others by fraud).
182. "And weigh with scales true and upright.
183. "And withhold not things justly due to men, nor do evil in the land, working mischief.
184. "And fear Him Who created you and (who created) the generations before (you)"
185. They said: "Thou art only one of those bewitched!
186. "Thou art no more than a mortal like us, and indeed we think thou art a liar!
187. "Now cause a piece of the sky to fall on us, if thou art truthful!"
188. He said: "My Lord knows best what ye do."
189. But they rejected him. Then the punishment of a day of overshadowing gloom seized them, and that was the Penalty of a Great Day.
190. Verily in that is a Sign: but most of them do not believe.
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YUSUFALI: To each one We set forth Parables and examples; and each one We broke to utter annihilation (for their sins).
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YUSUFALI: By the (angels) who tear out (the souls of the wicked) with violence;
SIR, I DO NOT HAVE THE POWER NOR INCLINATION TO, FORCE ANYONE TO BELIEVE.
I VIEW IT AS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO, PRESENT INFO, ONLY. THEN, YOU MAY DECIDE TO, "TAKE IT OR, LEAVE IT ALONE". I HAVE DONE MY JOB.
YOU HAVE HEARD THE MESSAGE AND HAVE DECIDED TO "LEAVE IT".
FAIR THEE WELL!
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Posted: Sunday July 10th, 2005 14:45 |
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Tell me, which "evildoer" have i defended?
The Qur'an states that all mankind are from a common origin and that the believers are but a single brotherhood.
The Qur'an tells us not to deny these facts, and to avoid suspicion, name calling and despising each other.
It also tells us that those who struggle in Islam will be guided by Allah. That if oppression by a state or people is causing one to transgress then leave that land as the world is large. For those that need aid then give them aid....as i give you the truth of Islam... in order to expel the falsehood of elijah muhammad.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.
(The Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Last Sermon)
96:1. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher,
3:103. And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah.s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided.
3:104. Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.
3:105. Be not like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving Clear Signs: For them is a dreadful penalty,-
49:10. The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy.
49:11. O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
49:12. O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it...But fear Allah. For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
49:13. O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
"O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.� (4:1)
(Those who struggle in Our cause, We will surely guide them unto Our ways. Surely, Allah is with those who strive with excellence.) (29:69)
“Lo! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they wrong themselves, (the angels) will ask: In what were ye engaged? They will say: We were oppressed in the land. (The angels) will say: Was not Allah's earth spacious that ye could have migrated therein? As for such, their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end…� (4:97)
(Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile; ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah Seeth all that ye do.) (8:72)
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Posted: Sunday July 10th, 2005 16:19 |
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The Qur'an states that all mankind are from a common origin and that the believers are but a single brotherhood. THIS IS TRUE
The Qur'an tells us not to deny these facts, and to avoid suspicion, name calling and despising each other. I BELIEVE THIS, AS WELL.
It also tells us that those who struggle in Islam will be guided by Allah. That if oppression by a state or people is causing one to transgress then leave that land as the world is large. For those that need aid then give them aid....as i give you the truth of Islam... in order to expel the falsehood of elijah muhammad.
I BELIEVE SOME OF THIS BUT, YOU ARE NOT GIVING ME THE "TRUTH" OF ISLAM.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.
(The Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Last Sermon) YES
96:1. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher,
3:103. And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah.s favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided.
3:104. Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.
3:105. Be not like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving Clear Signs: For them is a dreadful penalty,-
49:10. The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy.
WE ARE BUT, THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE ALL THE SAME.
49:11. O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
49:12. O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it...But fear Allah. For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
49:13. O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
"O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women.� (4:1)
THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE ALL THE SAME.
(Those who struggle in Our cause, We will surely guide them unto Our ways. Surely, Allah is with those who strive with excellence.) (29:69)
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“Lo! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they wrong themselves, (the angels) will ask: In what were ye engaged? They will say: We were oppressed in the land. (The angels) will say: Was not Allah's earth spacious that ye could have migrated therein? As for such, their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end…� (4:97)
UNFORTUNATEY, I DO NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO MOVE...
EXCERT OF... What the Muslims Want
This is the question asked most frequently by both whites and blacks.
The answers to this question I shall state as simply as possible.
We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents are descendents from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own, either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 or 25 years, until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.
Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality after giving them 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worse treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own....
MR. MUHAMMAD(PBUH)
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(Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile; ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah Seeth all that ye do.) (8:72)
SIR, YOU SEEM TO HAVE BEEN CAUGHT UP IN THE "PROPOGANDA" SURROUNDING THE FOLLOWERS OF MR. MUHAMMAD(PBUH) DURING THE '60'S AND BEYOND, FOLLOWERS WERE SOMEWHAT "ANGY" W/cAUCASIANS AND, RIGHTFULLY SO. I READILY ADMIT, THEY EXPRESSED SUCH ANGER IN A MANNER MANY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CAUCASIANS, DID NOT "LIKE".
NOW, I CERTAINLY DO NOT "HATE" WHITE PEOPLE. ADMITTEDLY, I DO NOT "LOVE" THEM EITHER.
PEOPLE SEEM TO MIS-INTERPRET THE LOVE I HAVE FOR BLACK PEOPLE AS HATRED FOR CAUCASIANS.
ALLOW ME TO DEFINE, ONCE AGAIN, THE WORD "DEVIL"...
SOME HAVE CALLED ELIJAH MUHAMMAD(PBUH) A RACIST. PARTLY FOR
REFERRING O HE WHITE RACEE AS "DEVILS". BELOW IS WHAT HIS DEFINITION
WAS. IN IN HIS OWN WORDS.
What Is The Meaning Of "a Devil"?
I would like to know exactly what did Elijah
Muhammad(pbuh) mean by the word "devil" ?
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As-Salaam Alaikum: The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught that ..."any
life
germ from original is Devil. Basically, any grafted thing can be
considered a
devil. You can have a devil cat out there, etc... But
Satan - Satan means one who's wickedness is not
confined to one's self, but spreads and it affects others."
I hope this is clear??? As-Salaam Alaikum =====
"But the One Mind, being both Life and Light, next brought forth
Man,
a Being like to Himself, with whom He fell in love, as being His own
child; for it was beautiful beyond compare, the Image of its Sire. In
very truth, God fell in love with His own Form; and on it did bestow
all
of His own creations." DIVINE PYMANDER OF HERMES(the Egyptian)
God and the devil...
I do not believe that these are entities that inhabit the sky or the earth.
Instead, I believe they are in each of us. "God" refers to the higher qualities. "Devil" to the lower.
Historically, Caucasians have exhibited the lower.
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USA WILL DEFINATLEY HAVE HER TIME, BABYLON REALLY IS THE SPIRIT OF SIN AND CONFUSION BUT REALLY IF WE ARE TO JUST BREAK IT DOWN , ISAIAH THE13TH CHAPTER TELLS ABOUT THE BURDEN OF BABYLON AND YES THESE THING WILL COME TO AMERICA, WHEN THE MEDES HAVE BEEN STIRRED UP LONG ENOUGH THEN REVENGE WILL COME FROM A FAR COUNTRY AND THE LORD WILL BE IN THE MIDST OF THEM WILL THE WEAPONS OF HIS INDIGNATION, TO DESTROY THE LAND iS 13:5,
AND THEY WILL DO ALSO AS IN EZEKIEL 9:4-6, BUT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COME UPON THE MAN WILL THE MARK (WHICH IS THE SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD, REVELATION 7:1-3, EPH 4:30, 2 CORINTHIANS 1:22) BUT OTHERS WILL RECEIVE PUNISHMENT BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT THE WILL FOR THE HOUR (EPH 5:16&17) THYE WERE AS THE 5 FOOLISH VIRGINS WHO HAD NO OIL( ANOINTED KNOWLEDGE) IN THEIR VESSELS (THE MIND) THE TRIMB THEIR LAMPS (COMPREHEND GOD'S WORD) SO WHEN IT CAME TIME TO ENTER IN THEY WERE NOT ABLE, (MT 25:1-13)Last edited on Sunday July 10th, 2005 20:07 by Sleep No More
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Posted: Monday July 11th, 2005 01:23 |
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SOLOMON wrote: God and the devil...
I do not believe that these are entities that inhabit the sky or the earth.
Instead, I believe they are in each of us. "God" refers to the higher qualities. "Devil" to the lower.
Historically, Caucasians have exhibited the lower.""
No, i disagree...... Some do, maybe even many, but not every single one, and not unequivically as a race. Just as ALL black people have not and do not express or incorporate the "higher" qualities..... of which many white people do.
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Posted: Monday July 11th, 2005 22:40 |
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Historically, Caucasians have exhibited the lower.
No, i disagree...... Some do, maybe even many, but not every single one...
PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE.
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ISNT LOWER SELF AND HIGHER SELF STAGES, ARENT WE ALL IN LOW STAES OUTSIDE OF ENLIGHTMENT, AND THEN WHEN MANIFESTED IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND TRUE HOLINESS THEN WE BECOME THE IMAGE IN WHICH OUR FATHER CREATED US IN, THE INNER SELF, WHICH IS THE MAN OF SPIRIT AND NOT FLESH, ISNT THIS FOUND IN ALL MEN, A HIGHER AND LOWER BEING? NOT JUST REDUCED TO COLOR FORMS?
SAYING THIS, DONT ALL MEN HAVE A HIGHER AND LOWER SELF, NOT BEING THE BLACK MAN IS HIGHER AND THE WHITE MAN IS THE IMAGE OF HIS LOWER SELF, HOW SO WHEN THERE ARE BLACKS AND WHITES ON ONE ACCORD IN THEIR LOWER SELFS, HOW COULD THEY BE EQUAL IF ONE SPAWNED FROM THE OTHER?
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Sleep No More wrote: ISNT LOWER SELF AND HIGHER SELF STAGES, ARENT WE ALL IN LOW STAES OUTSIDE OF ENLIGHTMENT, AND THEN WHEN MANIFESTED IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND TRUE HOLINESS THEN WE BECOME THE IMAGE IN WHICH OUR FATHER CREATED US IN, NOT JUST REDUCED TO COLOR FORMS? I agree
SAYING THIS, DONT ALL MEN HAVE A HIGHER AND LOWER SELF, NOT BEING THE BLACK MAN IS HIGHER AND THE WHITE MAN IS THE IMAGE OF HIS LOWER SELF, HOW SO WHEN THERE ARE BLACKS AND WHITES ON ONE ACCORD IN THEIR LOWER SELFS, HOW COULD THEY BE EQUAL IF ONE SPAWNED FROM THE OTHER?
Historically, Caucasians have exhibited the lower.
Do you deny this?
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I do not believe that these are entities that inhabit the sky or the earth.
Some do, maybe even many, but not every single one...
PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE.
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Historically, Caucasians have exhibited the lower.
Do you deny this?
well yes over time, they have done deeds that were malicious, but so have other cultures outside of a pale skintone, because the white man was not always so, and themn he became, but evil still existed among others before he became.......right?.........or do you see otherwise?
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It's not good to continually tickle the emotions of people....
I wasted many years waiting on the "fall of Babylon" and it only grew stronger as black people continue to drop like flies all around the world.
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babylon means confusion.
it therefore transcends millennia.
before babylon there was a peace and oneness which will return when babylon is gone.
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"...because the white man was not always so,..."
When? Please, present evidence.
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Posted: Friday July 29th, 2005 04:13 |
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Omaar wrote:
It's not good to continually tickle the emotions of people....
I wasted many years waiting on the "fall of Babylon" and it only grew stronger as black people continue to drop like flies all around the world.
IF YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE, PROPHET NOAH(PBUH) WARNED HIS PEOPLE IN EXCESS OF 100 YEARS.
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