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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 02:39 |
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Pele,
Espanol- Yo soy muy bien, gracias. Y tu, como estas?
Soy Gracias buena. ¿Usted sabe español y a francés? 
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 12:57 |
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Pele,
Puedo leer, escribir y hablar un poco de ambos.
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 13:01 |
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Pele,
Je sais lire, ecrire et parler un peu de tout es deux.( though it's still battle that i'm trying to overcome.)
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Posted: Monday March 27th, 2006 16:14 |
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Pele,
Puedo leer, escribir y hablar un poco de ambos.
CeeCee..........Puedo hablar poco
Pele,
Je sais lire, ecrire et parler un peu de tout es deux.( though it's still battle that i'm trying to overcome.)
CeeCee.......J'ai pris pour les cours français dans l'école secondaire. Mais maintenant je veux étudier l'espagnol.(Will be taking two more courses in summer school)
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Posted: Tuesday March 28th, 2006 15:48 |
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Pele,
Francais- J'ai pris francais et espagnol a mon universite. il y a vingt ans( ou mas). J'ai pris de tout les deux langues quand j'etais dans l'ecole secondaire, mais je n'etais pas une etudiante serieuse en ces jours.
Espanol- Yo tomo frances y espanol a mi universidad. Veinte anos hace,( o mas) yo tambien tomo ambos en escuela del grado,.pero no era un estudiante serio en esos dias .
My message in English- That is great that you want to take Spanish. Although I like learning about both languages, I think that Spanish has to be one fo the most interesting and easiest languages that you can learn. Beware! If you are palnning to learn both, I would focus on on language at a time. As i almost did when you try to learn two or more languages at a time, you may get a confused as there are some things that French and Spanish does share. If you want to take Spanish , would go for it.Depending on who your teacher is , you'll have a lot of fun with it.
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Posted: Tuesday March 28th, 2006 16:03 |
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CeeCee..........Nice.
I'm only taking Spanish right now........Haven't taken French since high school, few years back. I will not take both of them at the same time, no way.............
So, U took French 20years ago, and haven't went back to keep it up? Good for U.....I lost the french I have learnt not that long ago....hard when your not speaking everyday....
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Posted: Wednesday March 29th, 2006 13:41 |
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Now you're going find what I'm going to say may rather peculiar to you. Even though I wasn't a serious minded-student, I had the desire to speak somebody's langauge. When I was in the seventh grade, I had a teacher, ironically , was from Martinique( plenty of French there) who wanted to start a 4-H club. It would have consisted of students learning about home skills, Arts and learning foreign languages. Back then, there was a choice for students to learn French, English, Spanish , and German. Initially, I started taking french, but a family Emergency sent her back to her homeland. Ok, then I took Spanish with a Cuban teacher, I took that for 7 months, but she started a family,seemingly every year. Eventually, she bacame a stay-at-home mom. My last alternative was German. Truthfully with German( for three months, it was ok, but I really didn't enjoy it as much as I did with French and Spanish. Then the club was mismanaged by aniother teacher and there was no more 4-H club after that.Although I desired to learn it there were no more teachers who knew the languages-other than German and I lost some of my interest in after that.
I got my groove back into learning it when I started going to college and moreso,. Part of why I took is because it was part of my major and just in general, I enjoy it. You ask me why didn't keep it up? I could kick myself in the butt for that. I dind't make a big deal of it and nobody around me about the importance of it. Now I realize that it would have been wise if I would have did it. It amazes me how some people are able to speak English or another langauge like it's nothing. One of my Friends is American, but he speaks fluent Japanese. . I asked him how did he speak Japanese in so little time( It took him seven months to speak it). He gave me some good advice that have never been given to him.
1)Go to a country that is fluent in the language and live there for a while( like study abroad, the military, or if you are a traveler)
2) If you just happen to be around somebody who speak the language, be around them ( like if you're married to them, o rthey are you best buddy or something) try to speak it with them.
3) Speak more of the language you desire to speak and less of the one you're currently speaking
4) Do some language based programs( somebody on here suggested BBC.com and it's an excellent website if you want to learn about another language
5) Watch a language based show/movie. Like like to Watch Telemundo/Univision /Galavision to help me with my Spanish.
6) It's unfortunate that we are not little kids because he also told me that it's wise to to teach a child to speak another language as soon as possible. It's easier at that age than it is as an adult.He has a 7 year old daughter and she's speaking Japanese fluenty.
Currently, I'm doing Spanish. In some ways it fortunate that I take this language. I have easier access to be surrounded by Spanish influences than French. Although There is a Haitian church near me. Even though I'm studenying French, once in a while , I review some old French for upkeeping. I rpomise that once I learn this, I'm not letting it go. Languages are not only imprtant to learn, but I have a lot of fun learning it.
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Posted: Wednesday March 29th, 2006 18:32 |
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Pele,
Now you're going find what I'm going to say may rather peculiar to you. Even though I wasn't a serious minded-student, I had the desire to speak somebody's langauge. When I was in the seventh grade, I had a teacher, ironically , was from Martinique( plenty of French there) who wanted to start a 4-H club. It would have consisted of students learning about home skills, Arts and learning foreign languages. Back then, there was a choice for students to learn French, English, Spanish , and German. Initially, I started taking french, but a family Emergency sent her back to her homeland. Ok, then I took Spanish with a Cuban teacher, I took that for 7 months, but she started a family,seemingly every year. Eventually, she bacame a stay-at-home mom. My last alternative was German. Truthfully with German( for three months, it was ok, but I really didn't enjoy it as much as I did with French and Spanish. Then the club was mismanaged by aniother teacher and there was no more 4-H club after that.Although I desired to learn it there were no more teachers who knew the languages-other than German and I lost some of my interest in after that.
I got my groove back into learning it when I started going to college and moreso,. Part of why I took is because it was part of my major and just in general, I enjoy it. You ask me why didn't keep it up? I could kick myself in the butt for that. I dind't make a big deal of it and nobody around me about the importance of it. Now I realize that it would have been wise if I would have did it. It amazes me how some people are able to speak English or another langauge like it's nothing. One of my Friends is American, but he speaks fluent Japanese. . I asked him how did he speak Japanese in so little time( It took him seven months to speak it). He gave me some good advice that have never been given to him.
1)Go to a country that is fluent in the language and live there for a while( like study abroad, the military, or if you are a traveler)
2) If you just happen to be around somebody who speak the language, be around them ( like if you're married to them, o rthey are you best buddy or something) try to speak it with them.
3) Speak more of the language you desire to speak and less of the one you're currently speaking
4) Do some language based programs( somebody on here suggested BBC.com and it's an excellent website if you want to learn about another language
5) Watch a language based show/movie. Like like to Watch Telemundo/Univision /Galavision to help me with my Spanish.
6) It's unfortunate that we are not little kids because he also told me that it's wise to to teach a child to speak another language as soon as possible. It's easier at that age than it is as an adult.He has a 7 year old daughter and she's speaking Japanese fluenty.
Currently, I'm doing Spanish. In some ways it fortunate that I take this language. I have easier access to be surrounded by Spanish influences than French. Although There is a Haitian church near me. Even though I'm studenying French, once in a while , I review some old French for upkeeping. I rpomise that once I learn this, I'm not letting it go. Languages are not only imprtant to learn, but I have a lot of fun learning it.
CeeCee.............Just whoooooooow.
I wish I have/had the same drive U have. I really didn't really went back to study French after high school, and just started Spanish(Even though I tried before, but never keep it up). I'm planning to create a Spanish blog, where I can write what I learn that day. I'm also a double majoring, which will tie me little bit, since I have to take other courses in the summer.............it will not be easy.....but will try......I found alot of blogs and free Spanish language sites that could help me without paying them. Plus U and others on here .
1)Go to a country that is fluent in the language and live there for a while( like study abroad, the military, or if you are a traveler)
I have to say this is the most important of them all. Few years back, I was living in Italy......Yes, in a way.....I can tell U, I have learnt more Italian than I did while living in a house where both of my parents speak the language. In somalia, where I'm from Italian is the 2nd langauge, where majority of elders, those born before 1970's, who lived in large cities speak the language. So, yeah going to the country that the language is spoken should always be first step to study the language.
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Posted: Tuesday June 6th, 2006 22:33 |
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Entrada de caballo, salida de burro = Don't start something you can't finish..
I just registered another Spanish course in the summer....Hope this time I keep it up.
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1. UNONZI ANI?
2. UNOBVA KUPI?
3. NDICHAIRE RUNHARE?
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Posted: Sunday January 7th, 2007 22:49 |
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yeah . Southern Africa - ZIMBABWE representing.
NDINOTENDA NEKURUMBIDZA KWAWAITA MANZWI ANGU!
that translates to:
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Baule
1) beh fle seh yo n'gweh?
2) a bl'auwni?
3) beh fle seh mi...
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 16:06 |
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rah i am reading this post 9 months late: but i think you advice is excerllent pele.
i have been learnin french on and off for a couple of years and can only read and write it to a vey basic standard... but my son who is two who doesnt speak it anymore, but can understand it very well and if someone speaks it he will repeat it in english.. which is great for my listening skills...
am planning to go to a french country, as to learn the language as my passion to be at least bi lingual is very high.. especially in todays world... your little long message has given me even more inspiration to go.. thanx
catching my yung 1 at a yung age... the only reason he doesnt speak french is due to most people only understanding his english...
plus, its the only way u will learn the true talk of the language, the common slang that is not taught.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 06:26 |
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MauMau Shabbaz........Good one....
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Afriki.....From Ghana or Côte d'Ivoire?
Baule......Baules are very small......While back, I heard it's one of many old African languages that will have very few people who speak/know it. How good are you at it?
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 06:48 |
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Diamond Mum.......You ain't late, we will keep adding more languages and share many more ideas.
Your son is prime example to children having language acquisition device (LAD). If you get time try to google Noam Chomsky, he has formulated very important reasons why younger children are way better on learning and speaking better than adults, while they haven't learnt the language they still get it much better.
"am planning to go to a french country". Me 2, I will be going to Senegal after I'm done with school(next fall). I wanted to go during last summer but had to take summer courses and didn't. Living a country where majority of the people speak the language you want to study is the best way to study the language.
Also, right now.....I'm into Spanish.......I have taken few courses and want to take more. Similar to you I just know the basics of both languages.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 14:17 |
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Pele wrote: Afriki.....From Ghana or Côte d'Ivoire?
Baule......Baules are very small......While back, I heard it's one of many old African languages that will have very few people who speak/know it. How good are you at it?
Cote d'ivoire. Many people speak it, or know how to, in Cote d'ivoire, the parts that i've been in, mostly villages. I spoke it when I was younger (it was my first language until about 3 years old) so I never got a well enough grasp of it to be fluent, however I never really had problems understanding it, but whenever I go back to see my family it takes a few weeks to become reaquainted with it.
came back to add...
I just did some pratice, I haven't spoken it in years, and i'm surprised at how much I do actually remember. Another thing I noticed is that the language structure is not that different from common modern day languages such as English and French, and Spanish. It follows common tenses...
Eat
n dit= i'm eating
n dit-ly= I ate
n dit-vyeh= I want to eat
n dit munh=I'm not eating
n su dit=I'm about to eat
Go
n coh=I'm going
n coh-vyeh= I want to go
n coh munh=i'm not going
n su coh=i'm about to go
also, there are a few words that are similar to english words, most likely purely by coincidence..
beh=they
mi=me
yo=you
seh=say
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 15:23 |
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children do pick up languages extreemly easly under the age of 8, which is something that i learnt on my child care course, chomsky and skinner were the two ideologist that paint very good pictures on how children learn.
you are good to be doing spanish as well... i was doing potugues, but the similarities had me very confused, as some of the words just seem like variations... so im sticking to french at the mo...
do you not get the french and spanish mixed ??
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 16:38 |
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Pele wrote: Afriki.....From Ghana or Côte d'Ivoire?
Baule......Baules are very small......While back, I heard it's one of many old African languages that will have very few people who speak/know it. How good are you at it?
Cote d'ivoire. Many people speak it, or know how to, in Cote d'ivoire, the parts that i've been in, mostly villages. I spoke it when I was younger (it was my first language until about 3 years old) so I never got a well enough grasp of it to be fluent, however I never really had problems understanding it, but whenever I go back to see my family it takes a few weeks to become reaquainted with it.
My mistake, I thought I heard something about Baule being one of many languages in Africa that will be lost in the next century.
came back to add...
I just did some pratice, I haven't spoken it in years, and i'm surprised at how much I do actually remember. Another thing I noticed is that the language structure is not that different from common modern day languages such as English and French, and Spanish. It follows common tenses...
Practice, practice, practic is what we all should be doing. In the state I live there are many African Communities(Most from Eastern and Western Africa) who have children who will never know an African language, because their parents lost the language or don't speak to them at home. How sad!
Eat
n dit= i'm eating
n dit-ly= I ate
n dit-vyeh= I want to eat
n dit munh=I'm not eating
n su dit=I'm about to eat
Is the "n" silent? Like can I say "su dit-I'm about to eat"? Am I right to say, it's a Bantu Language? Yes, indeed it has very modern structure and looks great.
Go
n coh=I'm going
n coh-vyeh= I want to go
n coh munh=i'm not going
n su coh=i'm about to go
also, there are a few words that are similar to english words, most likely purely by coincidence..
beh=they
mi=me
yo=you
seh=say
Yeah, these sound like english words.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 16:49 |
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children do pick up languages extreemly easly under the age of 8, which is something that i learnt on my child care course, chomsky and skinner were the two ideologist that paint very good pictures on how children learn.
Diamond Mum.....I'm reader of Chomsky, I think he has very interesting things to say about languages, even when some of his ideas can't be replicated. Lately he did came out and said "he's wrong on many levels on his take about children and language acquisition".
you are good to be doing spanish as well... i was doing potugues, but the similarities had me very confused, as some of the words just seem like variations... so im sticking to french at the mo...
Yep, I work with two spanish speakers and they have been helping me. And so far so good, it's an easy language to learn.
do you not get the french and spanish mixed ??
Yes. For me, I also know some Italian(both my parents/grand-parents speak italian-In somalia where my parents are from it was a part of national language before we took ind. from Italy), and if one knows Spanish.......he or she understands Italian very well. So, learning spanish, your also learning some Tuscan dialect.
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Pele, there is probably some truth to what you said about the language disappearing. Many of my cousins that moved from the villages when they were young, or who were born in the cities because their parents moved from their village know the language even less than I do. Even if the parents are fluent in it, they don't normally speak it.
Not only are the use of dialects diminishing, but the villages too, as it is the villagers who mainly use the dialects, many not even knowing how to speak the national language of French. Villages are being abandoned by the younger generations and/or becoming "urbanized". Even my mother's village after an eternity of not having electricity just got wired up a few years which was a HUGE deal.
The children leave the villages to go to upper grade schools as most villages only carry elementary education and they are discouraged in the city schools from speaking their language and they eventually adopt French as their main language.
Doula and Baule, from what I understand, are the two largest DIALECT languages spoken in Cote D'ivoire and Baule is an Akan language. I'm not sure which group Doula falls under as they migrated from Burkina Faso.
oh, and the "n" is not silent. You wouldn't prounounce it "En", like you're saying the letter, but rather taking away the "eh" sound and just saying "nn". Hard to explain, but does that make sense?
btw, this thread is a great idea and really is bringing me way way back lol. Now I have to back track and read some of the other languages here. I really hope I can find some Yoruban and Swahilli.
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Afriki...............Yeahhh, U will find some great languages in here..........
Those I fear the most are children of immigrants born in the west I see them everyday here, they know little. The hardest hit, are those children who live without a parent who keeps up the language in the house or doesn't live a community which shares a similar language. They will not have the advantage to speak their parent's mother language at all. Not that long ago, the African Union was trying to make Swahili an African wide language, where it becomes a national language for all of Africa, specially in business. I was like.......NOOOOOOOOOOOO Wayyyyyyyyyyyy. We need to revive and keep all African languages.
oh, and the "n" is not silent. You wouldn't prounounce it "En", like you're saying the letter, but rather taking away the "eh" sound and just saying "nn". Hard to explain, but does that make sense?
Yes it does, In Somali....there are very close or similar words. It's one letter repeated. "Kh" which closely sounds as Q in english....e.g. Taariikhda = calendar/time period. You take away "khah" sound. Or the "Dh" in "dhulkooda" = their land. Now we are getting into grammer..
btw, this thread is a great idea and really is bringing me way way back lol. Now I have to back track and read some of the other languages here. I really hope I can find some Yoruban and Swahilli.
Yep.....There are some Swahili in the first 4 pages.
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