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Posted: Tuesday April 19th, 2005 20:01 |
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boricua_morena wrote: Peacemaker wrote: I'm tired of being human, but that's another story.
no honey ur just tyerd of being insecure
god then changed have a lil pride and soul in ur blackness ..i swear it will do u good
''its not the land , its the men ''
No you see if I was just a spirit then I could communicate with other people telepathically, perhaps then they wouldn't take things like my comment about 3 months ago so literally.
However being human I have to make do with reading waves upon waves of illiterate posts. You see if humans had the desire for perfection then they wouldn't display crap like your post above in my eyes. Yes.
Another bible basher, and another person who talks complete sh*te....
So proud of your blackness eh! Yeah I'm loving the Afro chick.
L'Oréal, because your worth it.
Correction I made that post 5 months ago....if took in context it was my way of saying I'm sick of other people's problems and insecurites i.e this thread for instances. And why is it that humans have an almost inate desire to tell other people that they're insecure.
Probably to make themselves feel better is my theory.
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Posted: Tuesday April 19th, 2005 21:10 |
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Peacemaker wrote: boricua_morena wrote: Peacemaker wrote: I'm tired of being human, but that's another story.
no honey ur just tyerd of being insecure
god then changed have a lil pride and soul in ur blackness ..i swear it will do u good
''its not the land , its the men ''
No you see if I was just a spirit then I could communicate with other people telepathically, perhaps then they wouldn't take things like my comment about 3 months ago so literally.
However being human I have to make do with reading waves upon waves of illiterate posts. You see if humans had the desire for perfection then they wouldn't display crap like your post above in my eyes. Yes.
Another bible basher, and another person who talks complete sh*te....
So proud of your blackness eh! Yeah I'm loving the Afro chick.
L'Oréal, because your worth it.
Correction I made that post 5 months ago....if took in context it was my way of saying I'm sick of other people's problems and insecurites i.e this thread for instances. And why is it that humans have an almost inate desire to tell other people that they're insecure.
Probably to make themselves feel better is my theory.
fine if u think that my stuff was garbage then dont respond dead simple ...i was only trying to help ''my sister''
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Posted: Tuesday April 19th, 2005 21:31 |
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fine if u think that my stuff was garbage then dont respond dead simple ...i was only trying to help ''my sister''
Well in future when you decide you're going to help someone try and make sure they ask for help first and most of all need it. I didn't nor do I need it. Calling people insecure doesn't help people by the way. It seems to be more of an insult, ironically used by those people who are insecure themselves. I doubt you meant it as one but none the less, I never asked for help in the first place. Nothing on this planet I couldn't sort of myself anyway.
And strangely I always find those who offer help without the said permission of the person they're supposed to help irritating, especially when the help has religious connotations.
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Posted: Tuesday April 19th, 2005 21:37 |
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Peacemaker wrote: boricua_morena
fine if u think that my stuff was garbage then dont respond dead simple ...i was only trying to help ''my sister''
Well in future when you decide you're going to help someone try and make sure they ask for help first and most of all need it. I didn't nor do I need it. Calling people insecure doesn't help people by the way. It seems to be more of an insult, ironically used by those people who are insecure themselves. I doubt you meant it as one but none the less, I never asked for help in the first place. Nothing on this planet I couldn't sort of myself anyway.
And strangely I always find those who offer help without the said permission of the person they're supposed to help irritating, especially when the help has religious connotations.
no problem amor! at least ur a peace make 
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Posted: Sunday July 31st, 2005 04:57 |
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{~*OPINIONATED*~ wrote: Trust me reading this letter was like a revelation...in the sense that I then understood what made/makes us hate eachother (Africans) so much...the man vs woman, light skin vs dark and the old vs the young...throw in the fact that to make this all work the blacks have to trust and look upto their master...well tbh its like ol' Willie is still alive and kicking. So many years on and my blood still boils reading this crap...
The problem is it took the white man 100s of years to make us feel so insecure that we turned on eachother...how long before we wake up and smell the coffee? When will we see things clear and know who our enemy is...instead of fighting eachother? We know how "they" tried to (and are in a way succeeding) in brainwashing and corrupting us...I'm prepared to sacrafice those confused and lost brothers and sisters...I for one have no energy left to fight ignorance or re-educating the ignorant...instead I'm focusing on reaching the young and teaching the next generation.
All I did is like everyone else find the problem with us...what is or are our solution(s)? Anyone?
Sick of being black? No I'm sick of Africans being blamed for every single problem in this world...sick of moaning and sick of listening to Africans moaning...its time we did something about it. We need to take revenge and take back what is ours. Lets start off with identifying our enemy...
I'm sick of the blatant injust in this world, the other races taking our God given resources and getting rich off our backs...I'm sick of people tbh...the one thing I'll never be sick of is being black...being an African. }
now starting youth orgos in the various Diasporan states and founding a cultural and historical establishment would be my first attempts as squelching "their" campaign to eradicate, in terms of aesthetics and psychology, the Afrikan. Can we actually communicate and do something about this? I'm starting my own youth group in my community and thus far I have ardent support from Elders.
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Posted: Friday August 12th, 2005 22:33 |
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Excuse me? Whiteys? Grow the hell up. You'd be the FIRST person to have someone banned if they came on here with their racists comments. I'm a quarter white so yeah, i'm taking offence. Narrow-minded idiot.
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I keep hitting reply instead of quote. :| sorry people.
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Posted: Saturday August 13th, 2005 20:19 |
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cassjames wrote: Excuse me? Whiteys? Grow the hell up. Narrow-minded idiot.
First of all I should apologize and clarify. I should have said, "colonialist and supremacist people of widely European descent"
I'm not talking about my good friends at my school who are intellectually independent and don't take heed in any supremacist ideologies and if they do it's only mockery. I'm not talking about the good people of Western countries. I'm not talking about the honest historians and objective truth-seeking scientists, anthropologists and sociologists. I'm speaking of the people who racked my people and have given them nothing of an indemnity, who have made the vast majority of our lives miserable, who have tried to keep me-and yes this is a personal thing- out of high math when I was in grade school and also in high school although to a lesser extent. I'm talking of the people who don't value my history as they value theirs even though mine is just as rich and valuable as theirs-just as human and complex. The ones who have starved my people with their Guns, Germs and Steel (http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/spring99/gunsgerms.htm) of their history and cultural richness. The ones who tell my people that voodoo and "black magic" are evil and should never be practiced even though they know virtually nothing about such religious practices, doctrines and ideas-- their conclusions are generalizations of a misconception, the most wrong untruth. My people across the world, you seem to have fallen into the aesthetic trap not valuing your own humanity as much as you value that of your former oppressor. With this, I mean to say that if you all want economic growth across the Diaspora and better societal images as Black people of the African continent, you need to value those systems of society reared in Africa and in the Diaspora, you need to take them to heart, understand and inculcate them into your own lifestyles. A people psychologically wounded cannot go forward at all. So stop sucking up to the people of widely European descent who have it in for you-- not, all of them do--but some do and the most dangerous of those are empowered to do away.
Ah, yes. "Grow the hell up," you say? Haha, this young woman I know-very pleasant young woman told me to grow up like a semester ago and now she befriends me unconditionally because she sees that I am a messenger to modern humanity
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Posted: Sunday August 14th, 2005 06:08 |
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I understand some of the tone of the original poster,maybe a better title would have been...?????
Im sick of other peoples response to me being black,including Black people.
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Posted: Sunday August 14th, 2005 10:08 |
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I could never regret being a black person. All of the negative things that the original poster observed, or all of the negative things that we as black people go through whether it be on a daily basis...or from time to time..makes me even prouder to be a black person to know that I'm surviving through it, and that the majority of us as black people are surviving through it and making something of ourselves.
I could never wake up one day and say"I've had enough....I wish I was white!" the thought makes me shiver... All of the negativity and the generalising that surrounds us or some of us, is what makes me a stronger person and proud to be who I am.
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Posted: Wednesday August 17th, 2005 14:41 |
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| i agree to an extent but why are you yourself sick of being black? were not all as ignorant as you might think.all or most other races,to the best of my knowledge,have a leader or something/someone they believe in but its not alaways a good thing.the thing about black people is we have not got anyone giving our people a sence of direction,not since king and x.ok so we survived the slave trade but know what?a lot of black people are and will be self sufficient untill such time when we oursleves have a positive rollmodel/leader but write now jay z and puffy are not doing it for me or anyone i know.
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Posted: Wednesday August 17th, 2005 14:54 |
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realistic101 wrote: What are u talking about obal85. I am a black 24 year old female that deals with this ignorance on a regular basic. This is how I am treated. This is what I experience and these are the kind of conversations I hear all the time. I mean I'm not really sick of being black that was to harsh of a statement i just wanted to get my point across but I am sick of us not building each other up.
I agree, maybe we should start right here on this website. How about every person that sees realistic101 post think about what she is saying and then if they decide to reply, do so with some positive comments that will help her feel better about the state black people are in. She wants us to build each other up more, so any responses which appear to be attacking her will only reinforce the way she feels.
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Posted: Monday September 5th, 2005 20:57 |
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| i completly agree with your statement realistic101
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Posted: Tuesday September 6th, 2005 04:06 |
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| . Im an 1980s kid and sometimes I wish I was born in the 70's where black people had soul, stood for something and were black and proud. It's Just My Thoughts! |
I was born in 52. I was fooled by the 60s and early 70s. I thought all that talk and behavior was really serious even tho some of it was silly. But it was mostly a superficial act. Deep down people really hadn't changed and the revolution went out of style. I am not sure if this was just a problem with Black people or if the psych guys running the TV set were able to distract and co-op the whole movement.
The US government learned a lesson from Vietnam and this probably woke up the powers that be. Television is a mass propaganda machine. I remember Black Americans in the 60s arguing about Negro vs Black. I don't recall any arguments about African American. As far as I can remember that term was invented by the media, and we have now heard it so often that's who we think we are. I disliked it from the gitgo. It means the same as Ni66er NAZI to me.
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Posted: Friday September 9th, 2005 20:12 |
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@ thread starter
i understand you but at the same time, you arent' offering tangible solutions or contributing to making things better.
i think a better approach would be to make some propositions about hoiw we can improve our community and lives of black people in general
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Posted: Saturday September 10th, 2005 01:26 |
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It nice to see an old topic come to life again, but shouldn't more progressive thoughts be added????
Umbrarchist: I didn't realise you were in your 50's!!!! That said, wisdom from you should be spilling all over this site??????!!!!!!
From what i know, the term African American was better favoured because the term Negro is linked to slavery, from which the more offensive ni99er is derived.
"Black American", only recognised colour and "Afro American" was a 'stepping stone' to the now used, "African American".
The term "African American", aknowledges the African ancestral heritage (and the richness that comes with it) of the people who use it. Going way beyond colour, it gives worth and depth to a people who are now reminded that they are not just descendants of slaves but are much more.
My small steps......I smile and say hello to any person, especially black people i meet. Everyone's always smiled back and said hello!!! I find we are less guarded and more friendly generally.
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Posted: Thursday September 29th, 2005 08:42 |
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| It's not until colonisation that things changed but in my country being light-skinned or being dark-skinned is seen equally attractive, they only emphasize on the complexion, being very dark-skinned and having a nice complexion, dark gum,dark lips, nice white teeth is seen as a kind of aristocratic "beauty" being light skinned with a nice complexion is seen as a kind of delicate beauty, men especially are expected to be dark-skinned, it's believed that light-skinned men lose a bit of their masculine attributes.
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Posted: Thursday September 29th, 2005 10:43 |
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Well initially when i first post the topic i meant it as a metaphor and i was just trying to emphasize my displeasure with the state of black relations. This was my first topic and time on this forum actually. This was a phase i was going through and i now understand that the type of black people u associate with can effect this notion. Of course i am not sick of being black and never was but what i am sick is this poor mentality. Is that in plain enough english people?
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 03:24 |
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I'm tired of soceity in general, but I'm not tired of being what I am. Been doing it for 21 years so I might as well keep on rollin heh.
There are more people who are like you, find them, and grow. This is key. This website should be a good example actually.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 10:27 |
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| Sick of being black? i was going to say this is a good reason why you must not define yourself by a colour but I guess there are those also sick of being African.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 10:38 |
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I wonder if this cuts both ways..are there people sick of being stupid, sick of being confused or sick of being used like a biatch?
Amazing how all i ever hear is people being sick of being 'black'
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 10:47 |
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Kunjufu LOL - one thing with superficial people is they will always make the consequence look like the cause - I think it's called saving face Last edited on Monday April 17th, 2006 10:48 by Incognito
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 12:12 |
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Im Hotep Sistren,
I can certainly relate to what you've said here. Let me tell you what happened to me on Saturday before I continue with my response: I went to the gas station at about 8 in the morning and there were a bunch of brothers I recognized from when I used to go to the mosque years ago. They were standing around a van, selling incense, soap, shampoo, and kufis. I said "salaam" to all of them and even bought two bars of that black soap. Then they tried to sell me some of the prayer outfits, and I told them I'm not a muslim anymore. Instantly they changed into enemies, telling me that I was damned and that it was stupid to practice Afrikan religions because "Afrikan N****rs are the ones who sold us into slavery." I replied that they "sure did, because Islam had them so brainwashed that they had no problem selling the "infidels" to the whites and the arabs." It got silent then. The arabs treat them like GARBAGE at the mosques. They don't speak arabic, but I do! I heard them calling us slaves and monkeys and making comments when we use the bathroom about penis size.
The point of this story is - look how we have been taught to hate ourselves and our people. The arabs are over there in Saudi Arabia selling Black people to this very day, and in the Sudan, they are taking turns on 5 and 6 year old Black girls. Yet we are so loving and respectful of the arabs in the mosques and our own people are "Afrikan N****rs". In the US, people will come to blows with you if you try to say they are Afrikan. Nooo, they will insist that they are AMERICANS, and that they don't "know nothing about them damn Afrikans". Sistren, when you hear this, what they are actually saying is "I am a creation of the West. I had no history, no language, and no culture, but then the white man came along and made me what I am today." This is due to a flaw in Afrikan culture that we really need to address, and it is this:
WHATEVER THE WHITE MAN MAKES IS BETTER THAN OURS.
As soon as the white came to Afrika, suddenly everything he had was sooo superior to what we had. Our palm wine and honey beer wasn't good enough anymore. No, please Massa, give me some of your scotch! Here, take 100 slaves, just give me your scotch. Where was "let's figure out how to make it and distill our own scotch"? No, the white man's is better. The missionaries showed up and it was "Let's look cute and important and talk to the white man and learn his religion." His religion was "better" than ours. Calling yourself an Afrikan doesn't put Massa's name in your identity, and it makes slaves nervous. They have to say they are Jamaican because it puts the white man's hand in their past, present, and future. It's scary and lonely out in de big worl' widout Massa. Noooooooo, call me Black British, I'm not an Afrikan. Put Massa's name in it. Call me British. WAAAAAAA!!! YOU DIDN'T SAY MASSA'S NAME! (stomps foot) Oh, please don't kick me off yo' plantation, boss. I don't care nothin bout no freedom, I loves you Massa. I'm not no Afrikan. You made me, boss. I'm an American. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Brazilian. I ain't neva belonged to no Afrika, Massa. I've always been yours. I always will be.
This is how the violence, ignorance, poverty, and disease stays in our community. The biggest sickness is the one in most of our heads. I have gotten to the point where I just don't give a damn anymore. Yes, you can find me in Cleveland rocking Kenyan and Tanzanian outfits, rolling down through the ghettoes with Sarah Vaughan and Count Basie blasting out of my Oldsmobile, enjoying MY PEOPLE'S CULTURE and I don't care who stares. Of course, I get the most stares from the slaves.
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Posted: Tuesday April 18th, 2006 07:41 |
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As I look at the REALITY of our condition as a people, I am displeased overall. Why, because I know that by and large, we are SO short of our potential. The problem, as I see it, is that when people like Realistic101 attempts to address or confront any of the problems that are REAL ISSUES in the black community, here is what happens:
1) Blame shifting - It is somebodys fault other than mine/ours.
2) Sweep it under the rug - To admit to our problems is equated to treason and disloyalty.
3) Attack - As some have attacked R101, we aften in-fight and accuse the person of falling victim to the white man's devices.
We have REAL problems in the black community that are UNIQUE in many ways to us. These problems can only be resolved by us because no one else has an incentive to care rather they are resolved or not. Most could care less if we allow these problems to bring us to utter distruction.
Instead of jumping on R101, please make an honest assesment of our community and tell me if our community does not have some serious problems that are more prevelant than in other races. Next address these problems in a manner that does not involve the old "Because the white man does this or that, we can't do that" In my mind, that is an old, played out, excuse. It is fully within our potential to resolve these issues if we confronted them.
Some Problems that I see: (Not necesarily in order)
DESTRUCTION OF THE FAMILY: Our women, more than any other racial group in the WORLD face the daunting task of trying to raise children with an absent father! This is OUTRAGOUS!
MATERIALISM: Our love for the bling causes us to ruin our credit (Economic Power), seek a quick dollar in ways that are often distructive to our own communities and to ourselves as individuals.
Why are we wasting time and resourses on 24" wheels, bling, and other material trash trying to show off when OUR FAMILIES ARE FALLING APART?
CRIME: I know two ER doctors from New Orleans. Prior to Katrina, they had on average 10 gunshot wounds per week being treated at JUST THE HOSPITAL THEY WERE WORKING.
"THEY OWE ME" MENTALITY - This lead to unproductivity and an endless welfare cycle.
Some here have stepped up to the plate, and acknowledged an understanding of R101's frustration. Some have stated that she should do something about the situation herself. Well, I think we all can and should do something about it. I am trying to do my part as an individual. I urge each of you to do so as well.
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