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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 12:37 |
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Sooofresh wrote: chi wrote:I dont think us brown girls will hold it against you.....we don't tend to have a problem with black guys who prefer dark skinned/ebony girls.......so go ahead and do what makes you happy!
Chi I agree with you their (phew! lol)
I shall mark this historic day........(lol)
but
this is not about what Hurricane wants
this is about Hurricane being with ebony girls but not marrying one
ie shagging darkskinned girls but marrying the white looking one.
He didn't say he wants a white looking one he is saying he wants one who looks like him, I cant really argue with that in essence although I still don't get why he feels he cant marry an ebony girl although he has a particular liking for them.
that my friend is the slave mentality, and I will not allow Sambos to disrespect ebony women as some kind of a plaything. Why should he prefer a person who is Darker? He is brown (light skinned) himself....If a dark skinned guy came on here and said he dates light skinned girls but will only marry a dark girl like himself.....we all know he would not be accused of anything ...in fact he would be applauded.
and no I am not dark skinned, I am just a brown skinned sista without Sambo mentality
Although African men may have a preference for light or dark skinned women, I have never come across any African man or woman who views a lighter skinned African woman as more "white" or less black than the darkest of dark African women.............................Caramel/golden/honey brown skin tones are actually indigenous to some parts of Africa..............and were there before any white person ever stepped foot into our beloved Africa. This view of the relationship between skin tone and "blackness" is a very western Black way of thinking.
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 12:39 |
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Soofresh wrote ie shagging darkskinned girls but marrying the white looking one.
that my friend is the slave mentality, and I will not allow Sambos to disrespect ebony women as some kind of a plaything.
and no I am not dark skinned, I am just a brown skinned sista without Sambo mentality
Ok why did you say brown skin girls the white looking ones? Ok you said you are brown skin, would you say you are white looking? To me they don't look like whites, they are black and we know that. You are putting words in my mouth and making it look very bad. That is not what I have said and i haven't implied that in anyway.
I said I like darkskin girls, but I didn't tell you I was shagging them lol. Other people that have posted gave us the impression that if you say you want a brown skin girl, you hate a dark skin girl. That is not that case with me, that is why I said I like dark skin girls, a lot of my cousins are dark skin, but me personally want to marry a brown skin girl, someone that looks like me. That is a fair thing to say, I am not hating, but it is what i want. I have not been influenced by anyone, only by my eyes.
you missed out a vital part
answer this
why get with dark skinned , but not marry one?
Hey Soofresh take it easy, I have answered that above
are they just plaything?
Nope, girls are not plaything, I wouldn't like be used as a plaything
answer the damn question
or if you can't answer then say so, but don't beat around the bush "brother"
I have, but calm down. We discussing, arguing and not fighting
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 12:51 |
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@ Hurricane.....did I not warn you of the backlash?....(lol). So....you are not attracted to dark skinned girls? when you said you had a "particular liking for ebony", I thought you meant physical attraction.....(well what did you mean?).
I think you should know that ways of thinking that you may be used to from naija, sometimes oppose thinking outside of Africa....specifically concerning skin tone and it's relation to Blackness, we both know in Africa you would not ever hear somebody even suggest that for example....a light skinned Igbo (hola!!) is less black than a dark skinned Igbo, Yoruba or any other African......Brown, yellow-Brown, Golden, Caramel, honey Brown etc have always been a part of Africa as much as chocolate, liquorice, and blueblack tones........this clashes with what many have been told about " What true African looks like" so the lighter the person is the less black they are seen to be. So, when a guy says he prefers light.....it is taken to mean that he prefers something "whiter"
Thanks for having the guts to come out and say it......................but I did warn you, my broda!
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 12:53 |
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@Chi worte @Hurricane Wrote:
I specifically like ebony girls, but can't marry one- may I ask why not? If you like ebony girls why do you say you prefer brown ones? you have to enlighten me, I dont understand why.
I do like all shades, but when it comes to marrying one, I want someone that looks exactly like me. It is not because of pity, they just the one my eyes pick. It is all about taste, eg I would never choose someone who too skinny or fat.... However brownish or lightish the girl appear to be, I have to like her size. It is my choice, I want someone that I can be comfortable with.
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 13:22 |
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@Chi: you Warned me, but why should I be scared to say what i like? It says speak your mind, and that is what i have done without offending anyone.
Yes I don't know why, but my way of thinking is very different maybe because i have been brought up in Africa where love is always real. If you say you like light skin girls, no one will say you like white girls, or those kind of stuffs. I don't understand why people are complaining if you prefer light skin girls. That is your choice. No one accuses you of being White minded, but here people are so quick to tell you that you have slave mentality. I never learnt about the slave trade into any details in Africa, so that shouldn't be a reason.
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 13:35 |
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I could be wrong but...
When will people stop placing petty things like skin shade or sex before their beliefs, feelings, and virtues?! These are the only things Human beings actually have.
Today, one can alter their physical appearance at will. It means nothing. Yet people are as close minded as to judge others by what they see with their eyes. (Guys – Ever seen a fit girl that turned out to be a Tai Man) (Michael Jackson!)
Look at Women... They have suffered as badly as "jews", "Blacks" and "Arabs" combined people there was a time when they were being hung and drowned as witches for expressing themselves. They were discourage from reading and were not allowed to vote. (Even further back look at the bible - written by guys thus women were responsible for the majority of all biblical disasters e.g. John Baptist’s Head, Samson, Eve ate the apple etc.)
We as human beings need to stop focusing to the colour of our skin. That does not represent us, in fact no one thing can represent us. All people have are their beliefs, feeling & virtues.
The problem is that because the "powerful" and damn ignorant self-determined "white" people want to label people like it can really be done based of anything other than their actions (actually it goes much further back the that, but you get the point). The rest of the world has fallen for it, and now lives in a mental prison making decisions based on principals like appearance, language and gender.
My message to you all is to get out of the system. Free Your Mind and share the knowledge!
PS. If anybody really doesn't agree, please define exactly what it is to be "Black".
Peace!
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 13:41 |
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| Thats a Good Philosphy Plato...
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 13:47 |
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hmmmm
Again, I am not stating that people are not allowed to have a preference
its like black men get pissed of with asian guys who want to experiment with black women but NOT marry them,
but then you get a black man that says I will link a dark skinned girl but not marry one.
same thing one way or the other.
but then hey
who cares
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Posted: Tuesday December 21st, 2004 14:30 |
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@Soofresh : Anyway i didn't say I experiment with them , did I?
I treat Girls with respect, so I don't waste my time mocking about with girls I don't am not attracted to, trying to deceive them
What I have said is that I don't hate any other shade of black girls, whether dark skin or even light skin , I only want a Brown skin girl as a wife which is my colour.
i do get on well with all sorts of girl, only that I know the ones i want to marry. Trust a girl whatever shade will always find someone who is interested in her. So I don't think we have a big problem there
Hope you are happy now, you have tried see where I stand on this issue. I manage to keep my feet on the ground, hope we are still friends LOL
I thought for once this might descend to another Chaotic scene, but we 've managed to steer clear of that . Good
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Posted: Wednesday December 22nd, 2004 18:20 |
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Hurricane wrote: @Soofresh : Anyway i didn't say I experiment with them , did I?
I treat Girls with respect, so I don't waste my time mocking about with girls I don't am not attracted to, trying to deceive them
What I have said is that I don't hate any other shade of black girls, whether dark skin or even light skin , I only want a Brown skin girl as a wife which is my colour.
i do get on well with all sorts of girl, only that I know the ones i want to marry. Trust a girl whatever shade will always find someone who is interested in her. So I don't think we have a big problem there
Hope you are happy now, you have tried see where I stand on this issue. I manage to keep my feet on the ground, hope we are still friends LOL
I thought for once this might descend to another Chaotic scene, but we 've managed to steer clear of that . Good
"I thought for once this might descend to another Chaotic scene, but we 've managed to steer clear of that . Good" WRONG ! you'r so WRONG. But I thank you any way my BLACKish cous. Here I am WONDERING how the hell the richest countinent on the earth is in such a sh*t state and along came YOU. No wonder white people have so much contemt for you, the only time you and people like you are on their radar screan is when they are raising money through their loose change to give to you as charity. Who the hell do you think you are grading other black PEOPLE by the shade of their skin. Well you come over here baby boy, there are some realy, realy nice people you can hook up with. There called combat 18, dont let the name worry you my baby boy, they think JUST LIKE YOU. And will make you feel right at home. You can even share ni88er stories and how one beautiful day the whole world will be just like you. PssssT "dont sit with you back to the door". So pack your bags and come-on over enjoy
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Posted: Wednesday December 22nd, 2004 21:06 |
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One Idiot wrote: WRONG ! you'r so WRONG. But I thank you any way my BLACKish cous. Here I am WONDERING how the hell the richest countinent on the earth is in such a sh*t state and along came YOU. No wonder white people have so much contemt for you, the only time you and people like you are on their radar screan is when they are raising money through their loose change to give to you as charity. Who the hell do you think you are grading other black PEOPLE by the shade of their skin. Well you come over here baby boy, there are some realy, realy nice people you can hook up with. There called combat 18, dont let the name worry you my baby boy, they think JUST LIKE YOU. And will make you feel right at home. You can even share ni88er stories and how one beautiful day the whole world will be just like you. PssssT "dont sit with you back to the door". So pack your bags and come-on over enjoy
Sorry it is not your fault, your mama hasn't feed you tonight, that is why you are taking your sh*t to the net. Don't worry, Christmas is in 3 days, lots of charities gives free meal to the homeless and those who are hungry like you. But you may be so stupid not to get there on time, hopefully after you get some food, you will come back here and make more sense. The problem is that we have to cope with you here for another 3 days, I will ignore you until you after christmas, maybe you might just say something that make sense then. Until then , everything that is coming out of your mouth will be treated as trash. You useless thing. You are ignored from now onwards
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Posted: Wednesday December 22nd, 2004 22:49 |
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Hurricane wrote: @Knowledge seeker :
I hear you, yes i am brown skin and I do like my colour and I want someone with my colour. OfCourse I am Black, but I am proud of my skin colour, No problem with that.
My mom is the same colour as myself, but my sister is dark. Do I like them both, I am sure they are so greatful you like them for the shade they are  . So i have no problem with what ever shade, but when it comes to who I choose as a partner I want a brown Skin fellow. " FELLOW" Are you sure cous. That is why you are allow to pick who you want, but i don't go about saying to Dark skin girls you are ugly. WHY would our pretty chocolate sisters be ugly to you cous I specifically like ebony girls, but can't marry one. That is just my chioce but i am not saying dark skin girl ain't pretty, but they are not my type that I chase about. Someone who is ugly may be nice, but you may not want her because she is not attractive to you, you won't say because she is nice you will then take her, afterall if we all say we don't like Skin girls, then who is gonna like them. So if you all still stick to dark skin girls, I will take the brown skin ones, by so doing, every gets a chance.
Respect
Well, well, well, the worm has turned. here in your own words cous you play your self out. I pity you. But your blackish (for now), so I'll help you out. Dulux ( a paint manufacturer) has brought out a brilliant white paint, just pore it in the bath, jump in and away you go. Now cous, you tell me how many tins you want and I'll send them out. Then you can MOVE UP in the world and date WHITE women. Yes cous, no more brown or god forbid black girls YOU can date white girls. Think about it, you'll take her to the market on your bicycle and show her, and your new improved colour off and your king for the minute. Ive changed my mind on bringing you over here, you'll embarrass me. White ppl take a lot of training and I don't need you making gods out of every one you clap eyes on, especially the white girls, their a pain in the arse as it is.
There you go cous. And the delivery add (address) is....?
ps. as for the "mother" stuff don't go there or I'll teach you some new English words cous.
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Posted: Thursday December 23rd, 2004 11:48 |
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What happened to my reply??????????
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Posted: Thursday December 23rd, 2004 20:29 |
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| See its people like Hurricane that im talkig about. They've trained u well. U fit right in house N****r
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Posted: Thursday December 23rd, 2004 22:41 |
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| I am sick of you.
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 02:20 |
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Sooofresh wrote: you missed out a vital part
answer this
why get with dark skinned , but not marry one?
are they just plaything?
answer the damn question
or if you can't answer then say so, but don't beat around the bush "brother"
Hurricane still didnt answer the vital question. Why shag dark skin girls but not marry one of them. Hurricane, how would you feel, if some white man dated your daughter but then said he wouldn't wanna marry her cos she is not white? Remember, for the whites, they don't care whether you're light or dark, you're just BLACK. But I'm sure you'll understand the white man, cos you have the same principles... You'll probably tell your daughter: Well, don't worry honey. I also only married your mum cos she's light skinned cos I only shag dark skin girls but would never marry them.
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 02:27 |
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| Hurricane, how can you say the dark vs light issue doesn't exist in Nigeria, if you're truly a Nigerian? Don't you see your aunties with their burnt bleached faces walking down Peckham on a daily basis? Nigerians bleach more than Caribbeans. Go to any Afro shop and see them crowding at the skin bleaching section. Some women even as old as my grandma. I know what I'm talking about, cos I'm half-Nigerian.
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 10:20 |
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Hurricane wrote:
@Soofresh wrote
why?
I am just not attracted to them physically, I have seen one or two that I can marry
is it so you have Brown skinned babies?
Nope, no even looking into that, I care about myself, my children will take care of themselves. I want someone that I am comfortable with, someone that looks like me, so that when I see her, i see myself.
slave mentality?
No, that has never affected my decision
but I hear you
I like nigerian men , but I will not marry one
Yes there is nothing wrong with that, I like other African women, I am very close to some, but I can only marry a Nigerian. Why, because I think she can understand me more than any other women of any other country. That is the way i feel, Although I have met some that more than convinced me that they are up to the task, but I am slightly skeptical. I am only being honest and open here
I am sure you will understand why I said the above.
Yes I do
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If you say so, I agree with you
If you are looking at outside appearence or environmental situations to determine whom you will marry than you are limiting yourself greatly. My boyfriend is Nigerian and his people gave me a very hard time about being an Africa-American woman. They saw that I was am a child of God and have a very big heart. This is what you look at because I promise...just like Lauryn Hill said..."what you want might make you cry, what you need might pass you by..if you don't catch it.... what you need, ironically, will turn to what you want it to be...if you just let it.." You have successfully decieved yourself. It's okay though..to each his own I guess.Attachment: art_african_proud.jpg (Downloaded 350 times) Last edited on Sunday December 26th, 2004 10:21 by blaqguh
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 10:40 |
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Hurricane wrote:
I don't care what people say. We have different taste, there is nothing wrong with any skin colour, but sometimes you have a choice. You choose who you want and not let people dictate to you. I am proud to be an African, love my Skin and colour.........but then again I can picture who I want.
Some people like myself don't bother with all this crazy music stuffs, it ain't my bisz.......... but I know what type of girl i want. There are lots of good girls out there and bad ones, I personally prefer and am attracted to Brown Skin girls.............it is my preference, but obviously it has to be a good one. I one my eyes wide and I know what I like, it aint any slave or whatever mentality. It is just a personal choice. So I don't think that there is a light skin mentality a such, people do choose what they prefer and you can't blame them for that.
The issue of light skin vs dark Skin is rubbish, it is those who have too much time on their hand that think about such. Any normal people have will know what they want, it is their choice.
Hurricane...I have to say..I love your spirit...however...the light vs dark thing..IS very real...dark skinned women are only now starting to be celebrated in the media....though they have always been some of the most beautiful women on earth... the light vs. dark thing dates back to slavery days if someone hasn't schooled you on that already. PS. If it makes you feel any better, I am highly attracted to dark skinned men. My father is light skinned, my mother is brown but the only positive male model in my life was my brother who is a dark skinned man. I don't know why but I loooooooooove charcoal black brothers. It seems that dark skinned brothers appreciate me. I am a light brown but I wish I was black as tar though because I LOOOVE Dark skin. I also love foreign men. Go figure, I am engaged to a Nigerian! That has always been my preference. God bless you.Attachment: art_african_visionary.jpg (Downloaded 339 times)
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 17:27 |
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@blaqguh wrote If you are looking at outside appearence or environmental situations to determine whom you will marry than you are limiting yourself greatly. My boyfriend is Nigerian and his people gave me a very hard time about being an Africa-American woman. They saw that I was am a child of God and have a very big heart. This is what you look at because I promise...just like Lauryn Hill said..."what you want might make you cry, what you need might pass you by..if you don't catch it.... what you need, ironically, will turn to what you want it to be...if you just let it.." You have successfully decieved yourself. It's okay though..to each his own I guess.
The answer is in the second part of my post that you commented on
"There are lots of good girls out there and bad ones, I personally prefer and am attracted to Brown Skin girls.............it is my preference, but obviously it has to be a good one. I open my eyes wide and I know what I like, it aint any slave or whatever mentality. It is just a personal choice. "
The "Good one" has all these other Qualities, not just the outside appearence. It is true that I am in someways limiting my options, yes it makes it harder,, but you will still find a good brown skin girl who is Godly, nice, beautiful, good personalities etc.
Hurricane...I have to say..I love your spirit...however...the light vs dark thing..IS very real...dark skinned women are only now starting to be celebrated in the media....though they have always been some of the most beautiful women on earth... the light vs. dark thing dates back to slavery days if someone hasn't schooled you on that already. PS. If it makes you feel any better, I am highly attracted to dark skinned men. My father is light skinned, my mother is brown but the only positive male model in my life was my brother who is a dark skinned man. I don't know why but I loooooooooove charcoal black brothers. It seems that dark skinned brothers appreciate me. I am a light brown but I wish I was black as tar though because I LOOOVE Dark skin. I also love foreign men. Go figure, I am engaged to a Nigerian! That has always been my preference. God bless you.
First, let me say I like the way you have put your point across, if everyone debates in this sort of friendly way, there will be no need for bashing, name calling etc. I agree with nearly all of what you have written, but even some places where people haven't really learnt a lot or anything about slavery, they still have their preference. It may have happened during the slave trade, but I would doubt if it started then. I agree that there is some dark skin vs light skin, but I think it is been exaggerated. Also it is not a problem in Nigeria anyway, so I don't really care what happens in the Uk neither am I influenced by their media.
PS Why is everyone Engaged to a Nigerian? Maybe we have a lot of good men out there. I am glad that despite all the negative stuff out there, some women still find Nigerian men out there attractive. I was reading on a website couple of days ago, where someone was asking people for money to help them, the person gave little or no clue of who he is. yet many people on the site came to the conclusion that he is a Nigerian scamer. How did they know he is Nigerian? I am not denying the fact the some Nigerians do engage in all these sort of activities, but not everyone is into all these rubbish. Glad that some people still trust us. God bless you Sister
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Posted: Sunday December 26th, 2004 17:53 |
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@africanmix22 wrote :Hurricane still didnt answer the vital question. Why shag dark skin girls but not marry one of them. Hurricane, how would you feel, if some white man dated your daughter but then said he wouldn't wanna marry her cos she is not white? Remember, for the whites, they don't care whether you're light or dark, you're just BLACK. But I'm sure you'll understand the white man, cos you have the same principles... You'll probably tell your daughter: Well, don't worry honey. I also only married your mum cos she's light skinned cos I only shag dark skin girls but would never marry them.
Let start by saying you have asked me invalid questions. Can you read at all or do you read with your Ears? Now show me where I said I shag dark skin girls. Don't put words in my mouth and then ask me questions about it.
Don't intend to live in the Uk with my children, so I don't know what you are talking about. I will take them to Africa where they can learn proper mannas, you get me. Why are you comparing brown skin girls to Whites, you will be blind not to see any difference.
Hurricane, how can you say the dark vs light issue doesn't exist in Nigeria, if you're truly a Nigerian? Don't you see your aunties with their burnt bleached faces walking down Peckham on a daily basis? Nigerians bleach more than Caribbeans. Go to any Afro shop and see them crowding at the skin bleaching section. Some women even as old as my grandma. I know what I'm talking about, cos I'm half-Nigerian.
Well I don't live in peckham unfortunately and i don't hang around there. I know some nigerians bleach there faces, but only someone that is daft would find it hard to know the difference between a brown skin fellow and someone that is bleaching.
Nigerians bleach more than Caribbeans . I don't know where you got your stats from, you mean you speaking for the whole Nigerians base on the number of people you have seen in peckham, and the Caribbeans based of the numbers of caribbeans living in the UK, yes you make little sense.
So because your grandma bleached her skin, that means that every Nigerian does it. That is a silly thing to assume, better if you go to Nigeria and then tell me some facts, you are saying all these rubbish because people who are related to you are bleaching.
Ps Did you have some brandy last night, because i can see the effect on what you have written today, usually it takes 6- 24 hrs to get rid of it, I am sure it is seriously affecting you. maybe next time you talk you will make more sense.
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