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Posted: Wednesday November 17th, 2004 02:21 |
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Please be VERY careful!!!
This is serious and to be sent to any female that you no!!!!
How bad is this???
A woman at a nightclub on Saturday night was taken by 5 men,
who according to hospital and police reports, gang raped her before dumping her.Unable to remember the events of the evening, tests later confirmed the repeat rapes along with traces of rhino in her blood, Progesterex, that is an essentially a small sterilization pill. The drug is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND sterilize their victims. Progesterex is available to vets to sterilize large animals. Rumor has it that the Progesterex is being used together with Rhino, the date rape drug. As with Rhino, all they have to do is drop it into the girl's drink. The girl can't remember a thing the next morning, of all that had taken place the night before.
Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks just as easily, is such that the victim doesn't conceive from the rape and the rapist needn't Worry about having a paternity test identifying him months later. The drug's effects ARE NOT TEMPORARY-
They are P*E*R*M*A*N*E*N*T !!!
Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses. Any female who
takes it WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE. The weasels can get this drug from anyone who is in the vet school or any university. It's that easy and Progesterex is about to break out big on campuses everywhere. Believe it or not, there are even sites on the Internet telling people how to use it. Please
forward this to everyone you know, especially girls. Be careful when you're out and don't leave your drink unattended. Please make the effort to forward this on to all you know... Guys, please inform all your female friends and relatives.
PLEASE PASS THIS ON!!!!
Thoughts and feeling people???????!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Wednesday November 17th, 2004 07:11 |
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Not much. Always something new to scare people these days.
Solution don't drink, don't goto clubs.
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Posted: Wednesday November 17th, 2004 08:59 |
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actually stop passing this on...as it is not true it is an internet hoax...
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 15:04 |
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well drugs or not, every female is ressponsible for her actions dont go screaming rape when you acted like a whore.
like pm said dont drink.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 15:24 |
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the soul machine wrote: well drugs or not, every female is ressponsible for her actions dont go screaming rape when you acted like a whore.
like pm said dont drink.
Soul Machine...personally knowing two people who have been raped it is not as cut an dried as the person having 'acted like a whore'. I'd love for you to go into and A & E or Rape crisis center when someone has been subjected to a horrific attack and give them this reasoning.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 15:35 |
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free wrote: the soul machine wrote: well drugs or not, every female is ressponsible for her actions dont go screaming rape when you acted like a whore.
like pm said dont drink.
Soul Machine...personally knowing two people who have been raped it is not as cut an dried as the person having 'acted like a whore'. I'd love for you to go into and A & E or Rape crisis center when someone has been subjected to a horrific attack and give them this reasoning.
well my bad,i should stated-( execpt in exceptional circumstances). still many women cry rape when they feel their body has been degraded , but still many act whorish and allow themselves to be used like meat. where i work 4 rape cases has been brought out of which police later found none was true.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 15:40 |
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@Soulmachine. Have to disagree even though my spirit tells me your words and sentiments are slightly out of sync. No man has a right to rape a woman. Simple as..Period.....
Never heard an argument which could stand on such a basis. Acting foolish or placing yourself at risk in the worse case, and I am not talking about normal rapes by the way, is one thing. No relationship to a woman bringing rape onto herself. Rape is a male crime. Predominantly. A woman can walk down the road naked and still have the right to not be attacked in that way. As we have the right to call the police to complain there is a naked woman walking down are road, if we are too offended by what is being displayed down our street. But I doubt it though.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 15:48 |
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If a woman gets a pill dropped in her drink cant do much about that.
maybe Soul machine is referring to these sex parties where they take pills and get slack and untidy and cant rememer sh*t. Maybe Im watching too much TV.
There are battyman out there that will go into normal clubs and spike drinks too.. so man better mind out!!
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 16:17 |
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Fredblack wrote: @Soulmachine. Have to disagree even though my spirit tells me your words and sentiments are slightly out of sync. No man has a right to rape a woman. Simple as..Period.....
Never heard an argument which could stand on such a basis. Acting foolish or placing yourself at risk in the worse case, and I am not talking about normal rapes by the way, is one thing. No relationship to a woman bringing rape onto herself. Rape is a male crime. Predominantly. A woman can walk down the road naked and still have the right to not be attacked in that way. As we have the right to call the police to complain there is a naked woman walking down are road, if we are too offended by what is being displayed down our street. But I doubt it though.
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Simple as Sir, Simple as set the record straight for all the "closet rapist" that find excuses for their crime
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 18:27 |
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Fredblack wrote: @Soulmachine. Have to disagree even though my spirit tells me your words and sentiments are slightly out of sync. No man has a right to rape a woman. Simple as..Period.....
Never heard an argument which could stand on such a basis. Acting foolish or placing yourself at risk in the worse case, and I am not talking about normal rapes by the way, is one thing. No relationship to a woman bringing rape onto herself. Rape is a male crime. Predominantly. A woman can walk down the road naked and still have the right to not be attacked in that way. As we have the right to call the police to complain there is a naked woman walking down are road, if we are too offended by what is being displayed down our street. But I doubt it though.
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And taken From the News and Politics thread:
SIX BLACK FOOTBALL PLAYERS RAPE GIRL OF 15!
If a black man is not the best protector of his own sh*t and self interest what woman or man of quality in this life is going to see him as anything or not have something over him eg leverage. A man on his game gives leverage to knowone. A black man is not only guilty if he perpertrates an act, simply being associated is as bad.
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Interesting double standard.
So if you are a man you are guilty merely by association - in other words if you are a man no amount of mitigation will save you from the full venom of the puritanical fundamentalists who believe that simply being a man is itself a crime.
However - with shameless inconsistency these same moral fundamentalists will say the woman, whose conduct can be equally said to have contributed to her misfortune, will recieve tea and sympathy.
Praises to The Most High that Blacknet is not the real world!
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 18:44 |
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LOL! Well dont know if Im paranoid but Im assuming that Im one of those moral fundementalists (like the sound of that actually)..
But Run I dont see how a women getting her drink spiked in a club / laid out cold away from her friends/ and taken away and raped can be mitigated... How do you mitigate that my friend.
This is how I read FB line Run:
A black man is not only guilty if he perpertrates an act, simply being associated is as bad.
I take that as we are guilty if we did do the act/ and guilty by association by the powers that be. Especially in a court.
I may be wrong.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:01 |
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The topic has broadened - whereby we are now discussing notions of personal responsibility.
I am challenging the idea that has been expressed in this thread that personal responsibilty is only expected in males not females.
So a woman may may indeed be as provocative as she likes and not expect to be raped. Well that's true on paper, however I wouldn't tell my daughter such nonsense.
I would tell my daughter to respect herself and avoid situations where common sense tells you, you would be at risk.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:06 |
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mansamusa wrote:
This is how I read FB line Run:
A black man is not only guilty if he perpertrates an act, simply being associated is as bad.
I take that as we are guilty if we did do the act/ and guilty by association by the powers that be. Especially in a court.
I may be wrong.
We'll have to wait for the Man Himself to confirm that.
However this is not my impression from reading the whole text of that post.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:12 |
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@Run
I must be slowing down this evening.
Let me clarify. If a brother was present at a gang rape... then yes he is guilty by association.
Providing it was rape and not a multiple sex session.
But would you put yourself in such a position with a 15 year girl.
If that was my Son I would say bwoy you was damn fool to be there in the first place.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:20 |
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mansamusa wrote:
I must be slowing down this evening.
Let me clarify. If a brother was present at a gang rape... then yes he is guilty by association.
Providing it was rape and not a multiple sex session.
But would you put yourself in such a position with a 15 year girl.
If that was my Son I would say bwoy you was damn fool to be there in the first place.
True - I too would tell my son to stay well clear of such situations.
But
Rape involves sexual penetration by one person of another person by force. If you were simply present and did nothing -
You Are Not Guilty Of Rape
We don't have a Good Somaritan law in this country - as they do in France whereby you would be expected to assist the victim -
Thus
Being present at the scene of a crime does not make you guilty of that crime if if you nothing to prevent it happening.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:36 |
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Run wrote:
Being present at the scene of a crime does not make you guilty of that crime if if you nothing to prevent it happening.
Would you extend such leniency to the the one looking on if the woman raped was close to you. He could equally be scared out his wits/ or be geeing the boys on.
I know what my verdict would be. Rape no. But if not involved its his duty as a man to do something. If its informing then so be it. Or just leaving and taking himself out the equation. But to do nothing. No sah.. guilty by association. As charged Sire.
Thats not a high moral ground. Thats just basic expectations.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 19:54 |
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Well -
In that case many of us male and female are equally guilty of all manner of crime - the bystander who watches a person being attacked on the tube but does not intervene - the bank customer who stands by while the bank is robbed at gunpoint and does nothing.
Indeed by that standard we are all probably guilty of something by -
Ommission
ie, the fact that we do nothing where there is a duty act.
In fact I wonder which of us could hold up against such an exacting standard.
If simply being at the scene of a crime, makes you guilty of the crime if you do nothing to prevent it.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 20:48 |
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@RFYW @MansaMusa
Okay... let's draw a distinction here...
Guilt by association... if you are actively part of the social group which commits any act or crime and are physically present...
No guilt by association... if you are an innocent bystander i.e. a stranger... who by chance happens to be present when a crime is committed... regardless of any inaction...
Peace...
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@RFYW said"Interesting double standard.
So if you are a man you are guilty merely by association - in other words if you are a man no amount of mitigation will save you from the full venom of the puritanical fundamentalists who believe that simply being a man is itself a crime.
However - with shameless inconsistency these same moral fundamentalists will say the woman, whose conduct can be equally said to have contributed to her misfortune, will recieve tea and sympathy.
Praises to The Most High that Blacknet is not the real world!
A few comments. Can I say life is funny because I wanted to extend a discussion you were having with Backatya where he made some very very crucial points which had me wanted to jump in but thought against it. However you have raised the same point today and I am very happy as it gives room for some serious reasoning on a very serious point, on an issue where I know we both share an absolute passion for, the interest of black men.
I would go even further still and say this type of debate is critical in extending the education process for black men primarily and sisters of course.
1. First I think there is a fundamental intellectual confusion about particular key points and this is not directed at you. You have just provided the opportunity for us to discuss the matter. Broadly in society and this and western societies and we see this in both popular male and female behaviour and attitudes.
With regards to the nature of human, civilisation, the roles of men and women, the attitudes and biases which evolve, how each group is characterised in the way they are, and how this relates to social processess.
There are fundamental double standards which threaten any social order or society. There are also double standards which arise from any number of social roles which we can do little about other than to understand, and work around. Those standards work for and against people simultaneoulsy.
Ask any anthropologist and they will tell you societies are based on particular double standards which human beings can't actually get out of that easy. Many of them are rooted in concepts of biology spirtuality and things to do with creation and social order and a whole gamut of things. Moreover, most of them exist beyond conciousness. Eg we don't think about them, as they have been with us so long, we simply have them and repspond appropriately.
Here is a double standard. Men have always had less control over their sexual activity than women in almost most major civilisations. Even in societies which have comparatively permissive and liberal traditions eg African based societies..men still had more scope to flex generally.
You will find that in any civilisation from the year dot. Even where there are clear moral rules around it. The prostitutes are always less worthy than those they sexually serve. Another double standard. Why because men in species terms are seen as the sexual predators in all societies. It is rooted in biology and culture, psyiology eg male power and size and a whole range of stuff. Men are seen as the dominant group who like most animals, especially the dominant ones are seen as having the right and the necessity to spread their goods. Our whole civilsation is premised on these notions in one form or another.
Women can like sex or whatever as much as men, that is not in question, however the right to excercise that in public or in society is fundamentally different. Black women can talk here on Blacknet like they are free but cannot go out there and talk like that. It is scorned in almost every society on the planet outside .Even in Hollywood actually. Jack Nicholson and Waren Beatty before him were heroes .Very few leading ladies can conduct themselves in that manner. No matter how much fame or money they think they have.
Look at Maddonna miss modern girl and I will sex who I like and brag about it. What happened to her? Little miss revolutionary bumped in the real world and how it works. And women cannot be doing that kind of stuff in adult life and be respected. And check her now and many like her the pinnacle of resepectablity and chasteness.
Look at most African traditional societies and their attitude to adultery. The man was put to his death or exiled if he was really lucky. No such fate or to that extreme befell a woman. Why? Because of the organising principle that men are the predators and usually the instigators of such acts. This may not be true actually as the female mating game and males is very different and from my experience women are calling the shots not the man. He is responding to her who really controls that process.
Don't you think that was a really tough call for some men, who got caught in compromising situations when a particular woman made sure she had her best dress on to accentuate her assetts etc when he was in the area or whatever. Life is tough my brother. For man and woman and certain biases or inconsistencies which are the work of the creator not man, simply goes with the territory of life.
When Emperor Shaka broke precedent and executed a woman for adultery along with the man. It was not for the fact she was involved .It was the for the fact they did this during a war while her husband was fighting. Therefore setting the example that no warrior need worry ever again about what his wife is doing while he is at the front. Because she would get it as well as the man. It was unheard of and women could not believe it. But it only applied to war time conditions.
Did Zulu men cry about equality? No they as men actually were happy with their lot and know with any benefit comes a cost. I would take the burden of being a man for the rights it gives me in a whole heap of areas against those of being a woman. Eg the right to chase fine black women without the stress. Worth every whip lash.
There are double standards for men in many areas which we simply live with as that is life and as many for women. There are many fundamental reasons why society imposes double standards on its women or men as for its own survival eg owner ship of children etc.
Men generally rape women. It is not the other way around. That stems from the basic facts of human life, phsyiology, psychology and the intrnsic nature and differences in masculinity and femininity and how this manifests, especially in a perverted and dysfunctional manner. Male rapist threaten the structure of communal and village life. Given men rape women and not the other way around. The great minds in the area of law and policy who exist in every civiliasation design what we call decision rules where the bias is against the man.
Why because it is not technically possible to develop a decision rule where the rights of men and women are perfectly balanced in such situation. Men develop similar decision rules in other areas of civil and criminal law which benefity men, more so than women using the same reasoning. I actually commend the legal minds at work in this instance on a broad policy level.
Brother this is still a male dominated white society are most of the decision rules in all major areas of policy favour men, with a few exceptions. Of course those areas which favour women strike at the heart of some very very serious things eg the right to decide, rape, ownership and control of children etc. But apart from that....?
Now back to more fundamentals. From the begining of time and we can examine any what I call organising text of any civilisation be it the Quoran, the Bible, The Husia and texts which it is composed of. Ancient oriental text, the Ancient Greek classics, Shakespear and I could go on all day. What do we find which informs us about basic issues of masculinit and femininty.
It shows us men and women alike are driven by both higher and lower things. We love sex, particularly men and the particular aspects of femininity and what it gives us and how it makes us feel. Why shouldn't it? It is god given and a form of higher power as well as a form of baser instincts...It is the eternal conflict.
All these great teachers from the year dot. Have taught us men and women are each others weakness and many of the greatest men who have inhabited this planet have been brought low by what..the want and desire of a woman, particularly of low character and high in calculation.
And while women have always and will generally be seen as those requiring social protection, especially as motherhood was a key aspect of that self definition, they have always been seen as victims or those requiring protection and that is something most men on the planet feel comfortable and natural. I for one am very happy being the protector of the women who want to succumb to my protection. This does not mean that women have not opporutnistically used societies perceptions to hide their calculations and devious motives.
Women have been visting seers, buying potions from the beginining of time to either make their "boos" catch their eyes in the most innocent form, to women who would sell their souls to Lucifer himself to make pacts or whatever it takes to get a man, for dishonourable and potentially destructive purposes. As men have done. Many a solidier has been posted to Timbuktu so his Commander could squeeze up to his wife or woman.
This is human nature at one level and made worse by the type of society or culture we presently live in and our own lack of understanding of basic black cultural or African teachings you will find in our culture anywhere and we were taught as kids. As my mother use to say most men will never win in a dirty war against w woman so advised her sons to choose very very carefully and keep their eyes open at all times.
So today we have calculating women who have new incentives eg media exposure, big money, quasi independence eg baby mothers where the white man is your daddy not a black man, but his sperm faciliates that process. Yep these are incentives to increase the numbers of ugly and calculating women. But they have always been there and so has been the male punks who are their meal tickets or reason to be.
So the same way there are dishonourable calculating men, there are dishonourable calculating women. A man can woo a bueatiful girl and make her feel as a godess and ride her use her up and leave her and she carries that for the rest of her life. Equally women got moves too.
Neither one is fair from a fundamental point of moral justice. But we are not to know the private utterings of love talk. We can only go from what we know generally about how man and woman operate and in the lack of compelling evidence one way or another draw our conclusions.
Some times it goes for men, in others it goes against men We cannot have it both ways. Furhtermore, regardless of superfical notions of equality, the world does not see us as equal. World culture and civilisation and the billions who make up the world do not see behaviour in that nuetral terms or way. And why should they? Men usually do not behave like women and vice versa.
No civilisation is fool to the behaviour of calculating women. Speak to any feminist worthy of the name and ask them to give you a quick review of the image of women in most cultures. And you will find the image of calculating, shrewd, cold women. Some would say Eve in the Christian bible is the first archetype. Doubt it. Never mind Samson and Delia. Not only women who will use their bodies, but calculating old hags who will use their daughters or other women for their ends.
So why are we shocked? Men have to pay the cost of being men or be smart enough to have the knowledge, skills and self-discipline to read the play and act appriately. Crying life is unfair simply ain't going to cut it. Calling for equality even worse. Because we do not have equal expectations and why should we. The men in my family are more likely to eye up and go further with women, even though they have women than most of our women. We are more likely to rape, kill or be involved in acts of private or public violence than our women folk.
I differ with you, because my view is this and goes back to the begininig of time, wise men teach their sons about the ways of the world and that includes women generally and certain types of women specifically. How they move, what they want and what they use to get it. It goes with the territory that men will always be under suspicion in particular circumstances, that is how the game goes and if you don't understand it, you will never win or master it.
Look bro. A woman can sexually proposition you, walk into the room in the sexiest under wear and bra, lightly disguised behind some other garment and set the play like a spider and a fly. If you are a man of substance, you will read that play and make the right decisons. Because you know as I have experience not once, that a woman must always be allowed to have her virtue in tact, especially regardless of what took place privately or who did what to who. That is the game.
So if you read wrong and think you will go there and rule out the possiblity of it turning around and bite your arse, well that is your call. Life ain't fair. Remember that. Like the baby mother stuff. Of course men are too blame because female virtue must be protected, even though breeding for man with a woman or wife, does not seem virtuous. But who cares about that, where the game is concerned?
I am sorry to say bro. This does come from the real world. Tell that to brothers in the movement who lost their jobs and high ranking positions when they got played like suckers by a couple of sisters. One of whom had no interest in the brother and was actually making a play for someone else who rebuffed her, as he was no fool who read that this sister is "dangerous" and then she started to mess with some other big fish, as a jealousy move and the "patsy" got burnt. Destroyed him and she then handed him over like a wrapped parcel to the real subject of her desire to show her loyalty and how he needed to lighten up because even the big chiefs had their soft spots.
My head of Security would not give a flying XYZ about mitigation if one of his officers got himself into a compromising position. He or she would be finished and gone. My father would not give a toss about mitigation if you got yourself in sh*t. In fact we have men in my family who got burnt. Nothing drastic (other women) and how do you think the other men viewed them. Punks who do not deserve the respsect of men to this day, because they were so stupid and wreckless. Certain things men could understand other things show you are just a weak fool with no brain and hungry and undiscriminating.
FB
Last edited on Saturday November 20th, 2004 22:57 by Fredblack
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 22:18 |
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@Ijexa said"No guilt by association... if you are an innocent bystander i.e. a stranger... who by chance happens to be present when a crime is committed... regardless of any inaction...
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Exactly. People may attempt to make any spurious connection or association. Some have absolutely no legs at all and others like your first example eg was there watching or had knowledge thereof...completely different matter.
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Posted: Saturday November 20th, 2004 22:36 |
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Ijexa wrote: @RFYW @MansaMusa
Okay... let's draw a distinction here...
Guilt by association... if you are actively part of the social group which commits any act or crime and are physically present...
No guilt by association... if you are an innocent bystander i.e. a stranger... who by chance happens to be present when a crime is committed... regardless of any inaction...
Actually you are right - Scenario 1 would probably attract an incitement or abbeting charge, however in this latest this Football rape" we are still waiting to hear the full story, ie all the facts.
My bystander example was a specific response to a specific assertion.
Mansamusa seems to believes that a person present at the scene of a crime is guilty if he does nothing to prevent it.
I simply presented the full ramifications of this view.
Going back to my point -
I'm interested to know why we tolerate a lesser standard of personal responsibilty in women than w
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