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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 14:55

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Primark and Peacocks are heavy.  I also wouldnt ignore Officers Club, Tescos, Madhouse etc

Simple demin jeans tha you would wear to your friend's house. £4. Black/grey/other jeans £6-8

Peacocks is a good competitor though. Bought some hooies yesterday for £5 a pop

Prices can be cheap for a number of reasons. Business strategy could be based around Cost Leadership which would enable firms like Primark to undercut  other competitors

And I also have to question people's real expereinces of Primark clothes 'breaking down' so to speak. I still have jeans from 3 years back tthat have been washed numerous times and still are good to wear.

Branding is such a powerful tool. There is one cat called Porter who talked about the power that brands have in stifling new entrants into a business. Fascinating.

As far as I'm concerend apart from really distinctive tops/jumpers/jackets for raving etc( which you would want to be more 'exclusive', not by price per se but by availability) Primark services most(if not all) of my clothing needs


The same issues arise with 'budget' food shops as well, but thats a different topic


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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 14:55

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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 15:14

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@Le Moore said 'FredB wrote:  and closed down my Barclays Bank account when brother and sisters asked us to.
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Would you have a Barclays Bank account now or do they deserve a lifetime ban?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Greetings dear brother.


Everything is for a time old people use to say and this is definitely one of them. They are crying for investments in South Africa and Barclays and the new forces in the country are all paly now. Was going to say I don't have any Barclays accounts or investments and I just realised one of the bunch of shares I have is a well known bank/building society which was taken over by Barclays and shares were issued to holder in their name.

So indirectly still have interests in Barclays.

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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 16:37

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I always thought that the reason Primark could afford to keep their prices so low was because they didn't spend money on advertising confused3



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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 17:08

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Corporate accountability

Fashion Victims


‘5p an hour women shame UK stores’
Kumars star Meera Syal backs regulation call over Primark, Tesco and Asda

Friday 8 December 2006




Workers in Bangladesh are regularly working 80 hours a week for just 5p an hour, in potential death trap factories, to produce cheap clothes for British consumers of Primark, Tesco and Asda’s ‘George’ range. The charity War on Want today issued these findings in a new report, Fashion Victims, based on research among employees at six Bangladeshi factories in the capital Dhaka which employ over 5,000 workers, mainly women, making clothes for the three bargain retailers. Meera Syal, star of the television series The Kumars at No 42, is supporting moves for regulation to bring these companies to account.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have all made public commitments to the payment of a living wage to suppliers – commonly calculated to be a minimum £22 a month in Bangladesh. Yet starting wages in the factories researched for War on Want’s report were as little as £8 a month, barely a third of the living wage. Even better paid sewing machine operators receive only £16 a month, which equates to 5p an hour for the 80 hours they regularly have to work each week. The minimum wage for garment workers in Bangladesh halved in real terms during the 1990s, and many complain their pay is too low to cover food, housing and health costs.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have also pledged that their suppliers must not be required to work more than 48 hours a week on a regular basis, and should have at least one day off in seven on average. But workers interviewed for War on Want’s report can toil up to 96 hours a week – double the supposed maximum – and often lose their day off. Factory owners have forced staff to work up to 140 hours a month overtime, often unpaid, or face dismissal.

In February and March 2006, garment factory collapses and fires in Bangladesh left almost 100 workers dead and many others injured. Being locked in unsafe buildings has been a common complaint among Bangladeshi factory workers. Interviewees for War on Want’s report also stated that emergency exits are often kept locked in their workplaces.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have given their commitment to fair treatment for suppliers’ workers. But employees interviewed for War on Want’s report said their managers had been given prior notice of these companies’ social audits, and workers themselves had been bullied by their bosses to lie about their pay, hours and safety.

Louise Richards, Chief Executive of War on Want, said: “Bargain retailers such as Primark, Asda and Tesco are only able to sell at rock bottom prices in the UK because women workers in Bangladesh are being exploited. The companies are not even living up to their own commitments towards their overseas suppliers. The Labour government must bring in effective regulation to end such shameful practices.�
 
http://www.waronwant.org/Fashion+Victims+13593.twl
 
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Primark claim its low prices are due to a combination of good technology, efficient distribution, bulk buying and minimal advertising.



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 Posted: Sunday December 17th, 2006 18:53

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that maybe so, but i feel the designer labels and higher priced companies will push for this information

forced labour cheap wage etc

the same can be said about companies like BT and all uk banks who use call centres in india etc

 



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I haven't been to Primark yet (I know I'm late), meaning to go and check out what they got.

If you know how to pop style you can easily make something cheap and cheerful look really nice and stylish.



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 Posted: Monday December 18th, 2006 12:17

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Le Moor wrote: Corporate accountability

Fashion Victims


‘5p an hour women shame UK stores’
Kumars star Meera Syal backs regulation call over Primark, Tesco and Asda

Friday 8 December 2006




Workers in Bangladesh are regularly working 80 hours a week for just 5p an hour, in potential death trap factories, to produce cheap clothes for British consumers of Primark, Tesco and Asda’s ‘George’ range. The charity War on Want today issued these findings in a new report, Fashion Victims, based on research among employees at six Bangladeshi factories in the capital Dhaka which employ over 5,000 workers, mainly women, making clothes for the three bargain retailers. Meera Syal, star of the television series The Kumars at No 42, is supporting moves for regulation to bring these companies to account.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have all made public commitments to the payment of a living wage to suppliers – commonly calculated to be a minimum £22 a month in Bangladesh. Yet starting wages in the factories researched for War on Want’s report were as little as £8 a month, barely a third of the living wage. Even better paid sewing machine operators receive only £16 a month, which equates to 5p an hour for the 80 hours they regularly have to work each week. The minimum wage for garment workers in Bangladesh halved in real terms during the 1990s, and many complain their pay is too low to cover food, housing and health costs.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have also pledged that their suppliers must not be required to work more than 48 hours a week on a regular basis, and should have at least one day off in seven on average. But workers interviewed for War on Want’s report can toil up to 96 hours a week – double the supposed maximum – and often lose their day off. Factory owners have forced staff to work up to 140 hours a month overtime, often unpaid, or face dismissal.

In February and March 2006, garment factory collapses and fires in Bangladesh left almost 100 workers dead and many others injured. Being locked in unsafe buildings has been a common complaint among Bangladeshi factory workers. Interviewees for War on Want’s report also stated that emergency exits are often kept locked in their workplaces.

Primark, Tesco and Asda have given their commitment to fair treatment for suppliers’ workers. But employees interviewed for War on Want’s report said their managers had been given prior notice of these companies’ social audits, and workers themselves had been bullied by their bosses to lie about their pay, hours and safety.

Louise Richards, Chief Executive of War on Want, said: “Bargain retailers such as Primark, Asda and Tesco are only able to sell at rock bottom prices in the UK because women workers in Bangladesh are being exploited. The companies are not even living up to their own commitments towards their overseas suppliers. The Labour government must bring in effective regulation to end such shameful practices.�
 
http://www.waronwant.org/Fashion+Victims+13593.twl
 
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Interesting coz I see Meera Syal in my local Tescos at least once a month....so she cant be fretting about it too much.confused3




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 Posted: Monday December 18th, 2006 16:33

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Love Primark love it, love it, love it!

I buy my Tops, underwear and socks from there and I dont care how cheap they are. They do have some nice selections of tops and I think I have every single top in just about every colour.



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You best believe I shop at TK MAX .... I think some people in here just got a damn unappreciative snobbery attitude, moaning about wearing a £5 top when there are kids that can't even get a piece of cloth on their back. I think it's ridiculous that your moaning that people are wearing an outfit that cost £15 .... Maybe you need to realise that not everybody has more that '£10 in the Bank' ... you can't go round making them type of shallow judgements. I hope your young so that you can learn from young



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jett Black wrote: Le Moor wrote: Corporate accountability

Fashion Victims


‘5p an hour women shame UK stores’
Kumars star Meera Syal backs regulation call over Primark, Tesco and Asda



Interesting coz I see Meera Syal in my local Tescos at least once a month....so she cant be fretting about it too much.confused3



ROTFLMAO!!!!!!



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Sometimes I'll get some gear from market if whatever I see looks good. Clothes is clothes at the end of the day.



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I shop at Primark for clothes for workand some going out clothes.  The reason being is that why would I want to pay £20 on a skirt that I am only going to wear to work.  I have a good job and fund myself and my family (no kids) and I don’t really want to spend too much on clothes that will get dirty and rip like any other.
I think Primark is a good shop and is getting better as it grows.  It also helps people with low income look good.  I am a proud Primark shopper.



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 Posted: Tuesday December 19th, 2006 11:31

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yeah primark is good for a quick outfit on the cheap...went primark for stuff form my works party (sat gone) not bad for stuff your just gonna spill drink on and get smoked out in.



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Im not crazy about Primark i pop occasionaly but I never really see anything i like but thier girl boxers rock! I think it depends on the branch you go to the one in harrow (St Goerges) has things literally thrown on the floor - its so scattered. So thats off putting, whereas the watford branch doesnt look like its been hit by an earthquake and ive picked up a couple thinsg from there.



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