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Posted: Monday October 2nd, 2006 15:35 |
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| Following London Fashion week they has been a big talks about size zero. For all that are unaware of what size that is it a 6. The UK are having a lot of problems with our overweight society as we oppose health problems but we have all seemed to forgotten about extremely under weight who oppose even more health problems then over weight people do. What do you think of the new size zero or do we think that we are just hung up on what size we think is best?
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Posted: Monday October 2nd, 2006 19:11 |
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| Personally I find females of that build unappealing. There are always two ends of the scale and I'm glad that some action has been taken on this side of things. While genetics invariably plays a part I believe that you need to combat extremes if you are to have a fairly balanced society.
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Posted: Monday October 2nd, 2006 19:17 |
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Why is a size 6 a size zero first of all, when I have seen some shops sell a Euro/Uk size 4?
Someone who is a size 6 does not necessairily mean they are underweight, just like someone who is a size 14 isn't automatically overweight either.
I'm a size 8, but have small bones so I look much smaller (I can in fact fit into some size 6 tops), but I don't look like the girls on the runway. I'm pretty sure most of them are a size 4...possibly 4/6 but not a 6.
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Posted: Monday October 2nd, 2006 19:52 |
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this obsession with being skinny is not a 'black thing.' u do get the odd strange black girl that wants to look skeletal, but most black women prefer to have some flesh on their bones.
personally i dont really care if white women want to starve themselves half to death - good luck to them.
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 11:38 |
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A UK 12 is a US 8
10 6
8 4
6 2
4 0
Posh spice is the new size 00 which i guess would be a UK size 2?!
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 12:35 |
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Melissa wrote: A UK 12 is a US 8
10 6
8 4
6 2
4 0
Posh spice is the new size 00!
I see now. At first when BlackBeauty said the run-way models were a size 4, I was like, yeah right. This thread makes more sense to me now.
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 12:43 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: I see now. At first when BlackBeauty said the run-way models were a size 4, I was like, yeah right. This thread makes more sense to me now.
Why yeah right? Have you not seen these women?
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/09/13/skinny_narrowweb__300x454
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 13:18 |
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Why yeah right? Have you not seen these women?
I was thinking an American size 4, not an UK size 4. I knew that the runway models were smaller than a size 4 in our clothes here, but when Melissa showed the comparison of America vs UK sizes, your statement only then made sense to me. Your size 4 is our size 0.
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 17:46 |
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| Um, what is wrong with being a size six or even a size four? It is possible to be naturally thin without resorting to starving yourself or being a "burden" on the health care system. Should we be hanging our heads in shame because we are not thick? Last edited on Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 21:44 by Aryek
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 18:43 |
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Aryek wrote: Um, what is wrong with being a size six or even a size four even? It is possible to be naturally thin without resorting to starving yourself or being a "burden" on the health care system. Should we be hanging our heads in shame because we are not thick?
Indeed!
But I think they are talking about the women who purposely diet to be some model stick thin...and Black women do this foolishness too. I know someone who is desperately trying to loose weight. She actually wants to be her height (she is quite tall) and my size-which is actually sickening because if I was really tall I would be severly underweight!
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 19:31 |
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lol....some people are just weird..all this weight obsession is just getting out of hand. Today after work i was in a hurry to do little chating with this stupid colleague so i told her that i was going to the weight watchers meeting so can't chat...she asked why i choose weight watchers,i said although i am going to the gym, i feel that going there would help me LONG term with knowledge of food etc.....SHOCK....this thing i don't even know tells me that at size 14 i am too FAT and i should be doing VERY strict diet like the Aitkins instead.... lets just say what i told her in return turned her red and she run back into the office in tears!
Honestly, people are losing their minds over this skinny, too fat, too big, too god knows what next.......some people even feel that its their divine rights to tell others what IS the WAY to be or look...
Its like you can't be skinny/slim/curvy/full figured(delete as appropriate) without someone telling you that there is a CERTAIN way you are supposed to look to be IN....although what they should really be saying is that, thats THIER own personal choice, not what you personally is ok with or others for that matter.
Having put on a bit more weight recently, i have noticed how people actually take it PERSONAL like if it has anything to do with them Its like if they don't like it, i must also be very unhappy....they just don't understand why i am fine...lol...i am not that bothered because i know what i am doing to get back to my old shape and i have far more important things to worry about rather than losing sleep over pounds.
It has taken this for me to really understand the point Aryek is saying here....perhaps its not the so called size 6 or 12 or 16 people have problems with, its really us who are trying to live our fears in others....
Oh well, what do i know...
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 19:35 |
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Mezmerized wrote: lol....some people are just weird..all this weight obsession is just getting out of hand. Today after work i was in a hurry to do little chating with this stupid colleague so i told her that i was going to the weight watchers meeting so can't chat...she asked why i choose weight watchers,i said although i am going to the gym, i feel that going there would help me LONG term with knowledge of food etc.....SHOCK....this thing i don't even know tells me that at size 14 i am too FAT and i should be doing VERY strict diet like the Aitkins instead.... lets just say what i told her in return turned her red and she run back into the office in tears!
Honestly, people are losing their minds over this skinny, too fat, too big, too god knows what next.......some people even feel that its their divine rights to tell others what IS the WAY to be or look...
Its like you can't be skinny/slim/curvy/full figured(delete as appropriate) without someone telling you that there is a CERTAIN way you are supposed to look to be IN....although what they should really be saying is that, thats THIER own personal choice, not what you personally is ok with or others for that matter.
Having put on a bit more weight recently, i have noticed how people actually take it PERSONAL like if it has anything to do with them Its like if they don't like it, i must also be very unhappy....they just don't understand why i am fine...lol...i am not that bothered because i know what i am doing to get back to my old shape and i have far more important things to worry about rather than losing sleep over pounds.
It has taken this for me to really understand the point Aryek is saying here....perhaps its not the so called size 6 or 12 or 16 people have problems with, its really us who are trying to live our fears in others....
Oh well, what do i know...
You are probably going to think that as a man, I have selective reading in my comments...but you should put up a picture of that size 14 azz.  I'd love to see, as would many others.
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 19:50 |
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Mezmerized wrote: It has taken this for me to really understand the point Aryek is saying here....perhaps its not the so called size 6 or 12 or 16 people have problems with, its really us who are trying to live our fears in others....
Oh well, what do i know...
I never thought about it like that.
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 20:25 |
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You are probably going to think that as a man, I have selective reading in my comments...but you should put up a picture of that size 14 azz. I'd love to see, as would many others.
Lmaoo...selective reading is not good for the brain am gone tell uncle Kunjufu on yaa
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 22:47 |
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BlackBeauty wrote: Aryek wrote: Um, what is wrong with being a size six or even a size four even? It is possible to be naturally thin without resorting to starving yourself or being a "burden" on the health care system. Should we be hanging our heads in shame because we are not thick?
Indeed!
But I think they are talking about the women who purposely diet to be some model stick thin...and Black women do this foolishness too. I know someone who is desperately trying to loose weight. She actually wants to be her height (she is quite tall) and my size-which is actually sickening because if I was really tall I would be severly underweight!
I understand that. The real problem I have here is that people don't seem to be capable of differentiating anorexic people from those who are just naturally skinny, or even stick thin. I know this tall Ghanaian girl who actually isn't too far from the same size as the above model. She's not anorexic by any means. I've never heard her complaining about wanting to lose weight, dieting, whatever. But judging by some of the comments on this thread, this stick thin girl will automatically be considered anorexic and feel bad about the body that she is naturally because (1) she's model stick thin, and more importantly, (2) she doesn't fit into their perception of what constitutes as a healthy body weight.
If we're not busy telling people that they're too fat and need to lose weight, then we're on a witch hunt out for skinny, "Western" body-weight ideal holding women. When do we allow individuals to set their own standards?
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 23:22 |
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Mezmerized wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:
You are probably going to think that as a man, I have selective reading in my comments...but you should put up a picture of that size 14 azz. I'd love to see, as would many others.
Lmaoo...selective reading is not good for the brain am gone tell uncle Kunjufu on yaa
I understand, you're shy...just send me a picture then...
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 12:56 |
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Aryek wrote: If we're not busy telling people that they're too fat and need to lose weight, then we're on a witch hunt out for skinny, "Western" body-weight ideal holding women. When do we allow individuals to set their own standards?
When I was younger I hated being around older members of my family, because they would go on and on and on about my size-you would think they caught me starving myself. I was just naturally very thin back then and I still am...Ok not as much, but I am still very slim.
There are times when I don't like being this small, but generally I do love it. Now I just want my flat tummy back.
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 13:25 |
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I understand the difference between anorexic and a naturally thin women.
Those who are (UK) sizes 4 and under are few and far between in the black community. My cousin is very thin naturally but still only a size 8.
Seriously, not saying there is anything wrong with being thin, but it doesn't look very nice does it? Esp on black women.
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 13:45 |
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Melissa wrote: Seriously, not saying there is anything wrong with being thin, but it doesn't look very nice does it? Esp on black women.
Yes, being thin can look nice. I find that slim skinny black women generally still have shape compared to slim/skinny white women.
But anorexic people do not look nice-regardless of colour.
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 15:13 |
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BlackBeauty wrote: Melissa wrote: Seriously, not saying there is anything wrong with being thin, but it doesn't look very nice does it? Esp on black women.
Yes, being thin can look nice. I find that slim skinny black women generally still have shape compared to slim/skinny white women.
But anorexic people do not look nice-regardless of colour.
  ...Indeed. In fact, the slim curvy sister is my body-type of choice (it's the sexiest IMO); however, it doesn't matter that much because I don't discriminate.
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 15:18 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: ...Indeed. In fact, the slim curvy sister is my body-type of choice (it's the sexiest IMO); however, it doesn't matter that much because I don't discriminate.
Ermm, I doubt you and I are talking about the same type of slimness, but  anyway
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BlackBeauty wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: ...Indeed. In fact, the slim curvy sister is my body-type of choice (it's the sexiest IMO); however, it doesn't matter that much because I don't discriminate.
Ermm, I doubt you and I are talking about the same type of slimness, but anyway
Me either!
I don't mean slim i mean THIN, to me there is a huge difference. Iam a size 10, I'm slim, sonme people even try to call me skinny, but I am a very long way from being thin or anorexic looking.
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 16:47 |
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Melissa wrote: I understand the difference between anorexic and a naturally thin women.
Those who are (UK) sizes 4 and under are few and far between in the black community. My cousin is very thin naturally but still only a size 8.
Seriously, not saying there is anything wrong with being thin, but it doesn't look very nice does it? Esp on black women.
It doesn't look very nice to you. There are some people who are very happy naturally being this thin and they are entitled to love their bodies just like everyone else is.
And not everyone with an eating disorder is skinny. Most bulmics can be anything from a size 6 or under to a size 12 and over. You can't look at someone and just know that they have an eating disorder. I'm a size 6, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that I'm the second lowest size on the chart. Oh well, let people call me Westernized, a burden on the health care system, blah, blah, blah. I like being this small. Given the choice, I would still choose to be this small, you're welcome to love whatever size you are but there's no need to start judging people who don't fit into your "healthy" weight schema.
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Posted: Thursday October 5th, 2006 13:46 |
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Aryek wrote: Melissa wrote: I understand the difference between anorexic and a naturally thin women.
Those who are (UK) sizes 4 and under are few and far between in the black community. My cousin is very thin naturally but still only a size 8.
Seriously, not saying there is anything wrong with being thin, but it doesn't look very nice does it? Esp on black women.
It doesn't look very nice to you. There are some people who are very happy naturally being this thin and they are entitled to love their bodies just like everyone else is. True, fair enough.
And not everyone with an eating disorder is skinny. Most bulmics can be anything from a size 6 or under to a size 12 and over. You can't look at someone and just know that they have an eating disorder. I'm a size 6, I'm perfectly aware of the fact that I'm the second lowest size on the chart. Oh well, let people call me Westernized, a burden on the health care system, blah, blah, blah. I like being this small. Given the choice, I would still choose to be this small, you're welcome to love whatever size you are but there's no need to start judging people who don't fit into your "healthy" weight schema.
Does anyone ever call you skinny or say you look anorexic?
My hairdresser is what i would call slim, just found out she is a size 6. She looks fine to me. Can't see how she would be a burden on the health care system if its her normal natural body weight. I'm talking about the thin girls who have gone way beyond their normal natural body shape, thin with the lollipop effect head - looks disgusting
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