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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 12:11

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I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 12:58

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Ms Price wrote: I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

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Hmmm....it is debateable who has the reputation; 'black girls from London' or 'guys like the one you talked to'.  Maybe he (and they) have the reputation of 'having a crap approach when they step to women'....who knows? confused3 Maybe you could provide some details of this guy's credentials for us to determine if he can be deemed an 'authority' on 'black women from London'. For example, how many woman from London has he 'approached' in the last year?  What was his method of approach?

Anyway, this thread looks like another attempt to kick off some controversy along the tired (not to mention boring) old line of 'blackwoman/blackman bashing'.  So don't be surprised if it has a short shelf life.

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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 14:20

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Backatya wrote: Ms Price wrote: I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

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Hmmm....it is debateable who has the reputation; 'black girls from London' or 'guys like the one you talked to'.  Maybe he (and they) have the reputation of 'having a crap approach when they step to women'....who knows? confused3 Maybe you could provide some details of this guy's credentials for us to determine if he can be deemed an 'authority' on 'black women from London'. For example, how many woman from London has he 'approached' in the last year?  What was his method of approach?

Anyway, this thread looks like another attempt to kick off some controversy along the tired (not to mention boring) old line of 'blackwoman/blackman bashing'.  So don't be surprised if it has a short shelf life.

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This is not a bashing blackwoman/blackman thread. I think this is a legitimate question because I have heard this talk many times...the reason being I don't live in London and when I go to London, guys tend to always say to me I can tell you're not from around here (accent is a give away) I ask them why, then they say because if you were from down here you would be snobbish and look down on a man, so am like hmm.

This guy I know is very good looking, got the job, money,  apartment, car etc but he feels like just to even make a convo with a black london girl he has to go over heaps and bounds - something which he is not prepared to do anymore...basically he said that he is fed up with the "attitude" of London girls and is looking further a field...This guy has no problem getting girls, like I said he is hot, he dresses sharp and sexy. Yet he said that even someone as good looking as him has to work twice as hard to impress some London girls...he told me that if he sees a girl on the 'road' and he is in his 'chillin' clothes, he complains that girls have some kinda of stuck up mentality. For example if he makes a compliment to a girl, girls can blank him or not even acknowledge his existence...only when they see his car their attitude changes...

So from this I think maybe London girls just have higher standards of men that they choose to date compared to other black girls/women from other cities and that’s why they have this reputation.

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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 16:45

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Ms Price wrote: Backatya wrote: Ms Price wrote: I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

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Hmmm....it is debateable who has the reputation; 'black girls from London' or 'guys like the one you talked to'.  Maybe he (and they) have the reputation of 'having a crap approach when they step to women'....who knows? confused3 Maybe you could provide some details of this guy's credentials for us to determine if he can be deemed an 'authority' on 'black women from London'. For example, how many woman from London has he 'approached' in the last year?  What was his method of approach?

Anyway, this thread looks like another attempt to kick off some controversy along the tired (not to mention boring) old line of 'blackwoman/blackman bashing'.  So don't be surprised if it has a short shelf life.

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This is not a bashing blackwoman/blackman thread. I think this is a legitimate question because I have heard this talk many times...the reason being I don't live in London and when I go to London, guys tend to always say to me I can tell you're not from around here (accent is a give away) I ask them why, then they say because if you were from down here you would be snobbish and look down on a man, so am like hmm.

This guy I know is very good looking, got the job, money,  apartment, car etc but he feels like just to even make a convo with a black london girl he has to go over heaps and bounds - something which he is not prepared to do anymore...basically he said that he is fed up with the "attitude" of London girls and is looking further a field...This guy has no problem getting girls, like I said he is hot, he dresses sharp and sexy. Yet he said that even someone as good looking as him has to work twice as hard to impress some London girls...he told me that if he sees a girl on the 'road' and he is in his 'chillin' clothes, he complains that girls have some kinda of stuck up mentality. For example if he makes a compliment to a girl, girls can blank him or not even acknowledge his existence...only when they see his car their attitude changes...

So from this I think maybe London girls just have higher standards of men that they choose to date compared to other black girls/women from other cities and that’s why they have this reputation.

Ms Price

So...since you aren't from London am I right in assuming that you have lower standards than these women?  Isn't this what you implicitly stated?





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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 16:48

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personally i have found people outside of london friendlier than londerners.  i think it may have to do with pace of life- i'm not too sure why confused3



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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 16:53

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The whole of London is miserable tu rahtid, not just 'black' women.

That's a dumb generalisation the person made. Now if we're talking about South London.....:P:D



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soulunique wrote: personally i have found people outside of london friendlier than londerners.  i think it may have to do with pace of life- i'm not too sure why confused3
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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 17:26

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name wrote: Ms Price wrote: Backatya wrote: Ms Price wrote: I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

Ms Price




Hmmm....it is debateable who has the reputation; 'black girls from London' or 'guys like the one you talked to'.  Maybe he (and they) have the reputation of 'having a crap approach when they step to women'....who knows? confused3 Maybe you could provide some details of this guy's credentials for us to determine if he can be deemed an 'authority' on 'black women from London'. For example, how many woman from London has he 'approached' in the last year?  What was his method of approach?

Anyway, this thread looks like another attempt to kick off some controversy along the tired (not to mention boring) old line of 'blackwoman/blackman bashing'.  So don't be surprised if it has a short shelf life.

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This is not a bashing blackwoman/blackman thread. I think this is a legitimate question because I have heard this talk many times...the reason being I don't live in London and when I go to London, guys tend to always say to me I can tell you're not from around here (accent is a give away) I ask them why, then they say because if you were from down here you would be snobbish and look down on a man, so am like hmm.

This guy I know is very good looking, got the job, money,  apartment, car etc but he feels like just to even make a convo with a black london girl he has to go over heaps and bounds - something which he is not prepared to do anymore...basically he said that he is fed up with the "attitude" of London girls and is looking further a field...This guy has no problem getting girls, like I said he is hot, he dresses sharp and sexy. Yet he said that even someone as good looking as him has to work twice as hard to impress some London girls...he told me that if he sees a girl on the 'road' and he is in his 'chillin' clothes, he complains that girls have some kinda of stuck up mentality. For example if he makes a compliment to a girl, girls can blank him or not even acknowledge his existence...only when they see his car their attitude changes...

So from this I think maybe London girls just have higher standards of men that they choose to date compared to other black girls/women from other cities and that’s why they have this reputation.

Ms Price

So...since you aren't from London am I right in assuming that you have lower standards than these women?  Isn't this what you implicitly stated?

No you are not right to assume I have low standards and is not what I am stating either. :P





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Ms Price wrote: name wrote: Ms Price wrote: Backatya wrote: Ms Price wrote: I was talking to a guy the other day and he was saying that he is fed up with the "attitude" of black girls from London. Apparently he said that they are cold and rude, when he try's to approach them. I know this is not the case but it is not the first time I have heard black guys complain about black women from London like this, so is there any truth in it?

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Hmmm....it is debateable who has the reputation; 'black girls from London' or 'guys like the one you talked to'.  Maybe he (and they) have the reputation of 'having a crap approach when they step to women'....who knows? confused3 Maybe you could provide some details of this guy's credentials for us to determine if he can be deemed an 'authority' on 'black women from London'. For example, how many woman from London has he 'approached' in the last year?  What was his method of approach?

Anyway, this thread looks like another attempt to kick off some controversy along the tired (not to mention boring) old line of 'blackwoman/blackman bashing'.  So don't be surprised if it has a short shelf life.

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This is not a bashing blackwoman/blackman thread. I think this is a legitimate question because I have heard this talk many times...the reason being I don't live in London and when I go to London, guys tend to always say to me I can tell you're not from around here (accent is a give away) I ask them why, then they say because if you were from down here you would be snobbish and look down on a man, so am like hmm.

This guy I know is very good looking, got the job, money,  apartment, car etc but he feels like just to even make a convo with a black london girl he has to go over heaps and bounds - something which he is not prepared to do anymore...basically he said that he is fed up with the "attitude" of London girls and is looking further a field...This guy has no problem getting girls, like I said he is hot, he dresses sharp and sexy. Yet he said that even someone as good looking as him has to work twice as hard to impress some London girls...he told me that if he sees a girl on the 'road' and he is in his 'chillin' clothes, he complains that girls have some kinda of stuck up mentality. For example if he makes a compliment to a girl, girls can blank him or not even acknowledge his existence...only when they see his car their attitude changes...

So from this I think maybe London girls just have higher standards of men that they choose to date compared to other black girls/women from other cities and that’s why they have this reputation.

Ms Price

So...since you aren't from London am I right in assuming that you have lower standards than these women?  Isn't this what you implicitly stated?

No you are not right to assume I have low standards and is not what I am stating either. :P

OK

I don't care about any of this.  I just wanted to make a wisenheimer remark.






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Guys like moving to women outside their own area for a while.  This usually corresponds with a time in their life when they're getting a new taste of freedom or moving outside their old range for the first time, perhaps a first car.  It lasts a few years I think.

It's a case of the grass is greener.

I watch lions on nature shows and the males always get pushed out of the pride after a certain age to go make their own teritories, usually by killing some old lion elsewhere.  This helps mix up the gene pool of lions so sibling and cousin lions aren't mating so much.

Now with London being a city of 12 million the gene pool is already quite varied and one doesn't truly need to range so far lol, but a lot of it is psychological as well.  Conquering new teritories plays a part in the mind.

Perhaps thats why London's sattelitte towns like Reading, Luton, Basingstoke, Wycombe, Southend, Stevenage, Portsmouth, MK are plauged with young London men on any given weekend... like those young male lions on TV.

Ain't really an issue with London chicks, the guy is just reasoning out the urge to go spread himself and feel like he's discovering something lol.

It starts with not wanting to move to the females on the same block or estate because all the other kids he grew up with know those girls, have had those girls first or something of the kind.  A guy wants the new exclusive Nike trainers that nobody else is rocking yet lol.

As they grow older they start ranging and their friends too, hopefully to increase the chance of meeting a woman that isn't "known" ;)  These distances of rangings get further and further.  Until a cold truth dawns...

Just because he hasn't been there or people he knows, doesn't mean the local guys from wherever he finds himself haven't been seeing those chicks as old news for years.

You'll still get guys in their late 20s and shockingly even early 30s who believe women from elsewhere aren't like that (whatever was wrong with the ones back home).  He'll ascribe virtues to them and build them up in his head, reinforcing with the opinions of other deluded fools. 

London girls more rude?  Not if you spoke with a Brum accent or came like a Manchester dude.  Guys used to get excited for women from certain outside areas to go find the guys there are bored of them and can't stand them...

Your friend needs to settle down and realise he isn't a lion and it's all in his head.



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Wow...so he was just paying you a "random compliment" (highly doubt it) or "chatting you up" with the typical male way of putting one woman on a pedestal in comparism to another?? Nothing new there...Almost as bad as the "my gal/wife doesn't understand me like you do"...



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Well I'm a North London woman and I'm F-A-B!!!!!:D:D:D



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name wrote: This guy I know is very good looking, got the job, money,  apartment, car etc

>>>> ROLLS EYES<<<<<

Why is it that that old line always gets dropped in whenever a topic like this comes up?

So what it boils down to is this guy should really start worrying.  I mean he has all those things and still can't pull!  Damn.  I know some real ugly guys with only money and a car. and they seem to get nuff action.  Me thinks the problem is not with London women but with your friend. 

Maybe he should take note of what The Watcher says.....lol

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soulunique wrote: personally i have found people outside of london friendlier than londerners.  i think it may have to do with pace of life- i'm not too sure why confused3


I have to agree, I go to London regular.  I find people are very rude men/women, prehaps its because they are always in a rush lol, funny thing is as soon as they hear my accent and realise I am not a Londoner...... they are as nice as pie... the mind boggles confused3   ...... I speak as I find sorry.

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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 21:26

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The Watcher wrote: Guys like moving to women outside their own area for a while.  This usually corresponds with a time in their life when they're getting a new taste of freedom or moving outside their old range for the first time, perhaps a first car.  It lasts a few years I think.

It's a case of the grass is greener.

I watch lions on nature shows and the males always get pushed out of the pride after a certain age to go make their own teritories, usually by killing some old lion elsewhere.  This helps mix up the gene pool of lions so sibling and cousin lions aren't mating so much.

Now with London being a city of 12 million the gene pool is already quite varied and one doesn't truly need to range so far lol, but a lot of it is psychological as well.  Conquering new teritories plays a part in the mind.

Perhaps thats why London's sattelitte towns like Reading, Luton, Basingstoke, Wycombe, Southend, Stevenage, Portsmouth, MK are plauged with young London men on any given weekend... like those young male lions on TV.

Ain't really an issue with London chicks, the guy is just reasoning out the urge to go spread himself and feel like he's discovering something lol.

It starts with not wanting to move to the females on the same block or estate because all the other kids he grew up with know those girls, have had those girls first or something of the kind.  A guy wants the new exclusive Nike trainers that nobody else is rocking yet lol.

As they grow older they start ranging and their friends too, hopefully to increase the chance of meeting a woman that isn't "known" ;)  These distances of rangings get further and further.  Until a cold truth dawns...

Just because he hasn't been there or people he knows, doesn't mean the local guys from wherever he finds himself haven't been seeing those chicks as old news for years.

You'll still get guys in their late 20s and shockingly even early 30s who believe women from elsewhere aren't like that (whatever was wrong with the ones back home).  He'll ascribe virtues to them and build them up in his head, reinforcing with the opinions of other deluded fools. 

London girls more rude?  Not if you spoke with a Brum accent or came like a Manchester dude.  Guys used to get excited for women from certain outside areas to go find the guys there are bored of them and can't stand them...

Your friend needs to settle down and realise he isn't a lion and it's all in his head.

I agree with everything you have just said, because I heard guys chat this before too!!!




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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 21:54

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Ms Price, maybe the problem with your friend is with his personality/attitudeconfused3 if, in his opinion (and, it seems, yours) he has everything together job/transport/looks/clothes wise, maybe he is ascibing too much importance to these material things and insulting the intelligence of the women he is approaching by thinking that that is all he needs.  If he is approaching teenagers or women under, say 25, maybe that IS all he needs.  Its just insulting to think all women are that shallow or materialistic.

It seems your friend lacks personality/character and maturity and women can sense this in the first line a man says to them.

As for you, Backatya, the more i read of your posts, the more i think you are a woman in disguise (or that your wife is using your screen name!!) and i mean that as a compliment!!  In my own opinion, i think you understand women very well.  You should probably teach a course   "Backatyas' guide to women" lol



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lol never had a problem with london chicks myself...

I find being raised with that country swagga gives me a edge..see de, chicks dont see you as a threat like the local man dem

besides if you wanna hit that sh*t real quick just lie and say you only in town for the weekend...works for me everytime



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Black_Power wrote: besides if you wanna hit that sh*t real quick just lie and say you only in town for the weekend...works for me everytime blksnore Boy you on druggz



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Black_Power wrote: besides if you wanna hit that sh*t real quick just lie and say you only in town for the weekend...works for me everytime

LOL that's older than Noah...



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Wait Backatya is man? :shock: I thought he/she was a woman...the way she/he addressed my post and other posts I would have never guessed she/he was a man...wow I am totally surprised.



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London is a stressful place, you will find that both men and women of all races and ages are generally more closed when meeting a stranger, with Londoners they'll be cool once they've been around you a few times.

If the guy has all that and still has problems, its not the girls trust me.....or does he think that girls should be flocking to him because of his job and money...he must think he's a real catch and maybe it shows...lol?

He's still the one to do the chasing........:P



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Of course your friend will have an easier time in country. As Watcher said its a time honoured tradition travelling to 'country' to look women. Even for someone who has a front seat in the NFT he should find his reconnaissance mission fruitful. Northern women are more friendly. Its a fact.  Plus their accents are sexy.

Prime locations for establishing a base of operations are:

Sheffield/ Leeds/ Nottingham/ Manchester. He wants to be careful though. He can easilly end up in war with the local lads who wont take kindly to a Southern b**tard taking all their women.

 

 

 



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