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Which is More Important...BEAUTY on the *Inside* or *Outside*?...Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell???
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 Posted: Thursday April 26th, 2007 19:18

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***YOU MUST CHOOSE ONE...CONSIDER IT A MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST WHERE YOU MUST CHOOSE "THE BEST ANSWER...***


This is an infallible scientifically controlled test of what kind of man you are and what is more important...beauty on the inside or outside.

My brothers, you have between 2 choices, Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell to make a wife for yourself.  Neither of them are ugly on the outside, but Naomi's outside beauty is considered far greater than Latifah's.  Then with Queen Latifah's weight, it typically pushes her even further down the beauty ladder.  As for the inside, Naomi is a notorious bytch, while Latifah has been said to be a beautiful person with her past songs calling for "Unity" in our community and speaking out against using the denigrating words "bytch" and "ho" to describe our sisters.

So who would you pick...



Are the brothers here brave enough to reveal your choices, thereby revealing the level of superficiality of your values, to the Village?

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Footprints wrote: Dream On blkbrukteet


What's that supposed to mean?  Do you already have a preconception of our brothers' values?



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most guys would probably say neither and name you a third unlisted option.



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Madam Butterfly wrote: most guys would probably say neither and name you a third unlisted option.


I'm saying that they do not have that option...they MUST choose between these two.  This is what makes the determination more scientific...because we have certain attributes as almost polar-opposites for isolation.



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 Posted: Thursday April 26th, 2007 20:47

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so the choice is nice fat girl or nasty pretty girl confused3 >>and some guys on BN would tell you they don't find Naomi that attractive, or have seen better on the 36 bus!!<<



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Inner beauty...but only after doing the rounds in the sack with the outer beauty. Ah babylon we deh...we CAN have our cakes and eat it...and that's not a referral to all you pu$$y munchers out there:)



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I believe the choice was EITHER, OR.  NOT both!!  and what happens when you want to marry outer ugly, but outer pretty rocks up to your place carrying your child, how do you go abput explaining those cake crumbs?!!?



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 Posted: Thursday April 26th, 2007 21:55

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Madam Butterfly wrote: so the choice is nice fat girl or nasty pretty girl confused3 >>and some guys on BN would tell you they don't find Naomi that attractive, or have seen better on the 36 bus!!<<


It is perhaps the only way to isolate which value is more important to a man.  We all want the best mix we can find of both qualities good looks and personality, but to answer the question of which is more important to a man (which comes up quite often here at BNV), then I feel it must be done this way to say which is truly more valued by a man.

By the way, even if guys don't find Naomi that attractive, most find her far more appealing than Latifah so it is still a good comparison for the aforementioned purposes.niceone.gif

 



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ow do you know the wueen is beautiful on the inside



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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: Footprints wrote: Dream On blkbrukteet


What's that supposed to mean?  Do you already have a preconception of our brothers' values?

My brothers, you have between 2 choices, Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell to make a wife for yourself. 

 

What century are you from brother?



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 Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 11:49

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don't you ever get tired of dissin heavier women?

you should have ditched the celeb comparisons and called the thread what it is: Who would you choose? the skinny chick or the fat b**ch.



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Footprints wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: Footprints wrote: Dream On blkbrukteet


What's that supposed to mean?  Do you already have a preconception of our brothers' values?

My brothers, you have between 2 choices, Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell to make a wife for yourself. 

 

What century are you from brother?



It's hypothetical, as if they had the liberty to choose between only these two women.



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Soulstarr wrote: don't you ever get tired of dissin heavier women?

you should have ditched the celeb comparisons and called the thread what it is: Who would you choose? the skinny chick or the fat b**ch.



When have a dissed heavier women?  This isn't a dis at all.  It is a test to see who people would choose...inner or outer beauty.



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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: Soulstarr wrote: don't you ever get tired of dissin heavier women?

you should have ditched the celeb comparisons and called the thread what it is: Who would you choose? the skinny chick or the fat b**ch.



When have a dissed heavier women?  This isn't a dis at all.  It is a test to see who people would choose...inner or outer beauty.

Oh please. This is so thinly veiled its practically transparent! Anyway, who decided what is outer beauty? I thought society was advanced enough to realise that they didn't have to conform to sterotypes anymore.

Guess I was wrong.



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Queen Latifah is a lesbian and Naomi don't like black man - hypothetical or not you couldn't have chosen two worst candidates!



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Naomi is far too crazy to be anyone's wife (for long).

QL, well she just ain't my type.

Guess that leaves me a bachelor then. :)



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Soulstarr wrote: Oh please. This is so thinly veiled its practically transparent! Anyway, who decided what is outer beauty? I thought society was advanced enough to realise that they didn't have to conform to sterotypes anymore.

Guess I was wrong.



Ok, I apologize if this thread is offensive to you.  I agree that a larger woman can be deemed just as beautiful by some, but reality is that most view slimmer women as more attractive.  I am going off of popular opinion in this thread.  It isn't meant to offend...so don't take it that serious sis...



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stick-upKid wrote: Naomi is far too crazy to be anyone's wife (for long).

QL, well she just ain't my type.

Guess that leaves me a bachelor then. :)



You have to pick one!!!!



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***YOU MUST CHOOSE ONE...CONSIDER IT A MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST WHERE YOU MUST CHOOSE "THE BEST ANSWER...***


This is an infallible scientifically controlled test of what kind of man you are and what is more important...beauty on the inside or outside.

My brothers, you have between 2 choices, Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell to make a wife for yourself.  Neither of them are ugly on the outside, but Naomi's outside beauty is considered far greater than Latifah's.  Then with Queen Latifah's weight, it typically pushes her even further down the beauty ladder.  As for the inside, Naomi is a notorious bytch, while Latifah has been said to be a beautiful person with her past songs calling for "Unity" in our community and speaking out against using the denigrating words "bytch" and "ho" to describe our sisters.

So who would you pick...

 

Are the brothers here brave enough to reveal your choices, thereby revealing the level of superficiality of your values, to the Village?



 
Maybe this could have been a better comparison one is sexy and the other is well uhmmm beautiful on the inside (it is VERY wrong of you  S&T to ASSUME that all  fat people are all beautiful on the inside - you are the people Tyra was talking about who go around making fat people become bulimic to fit your little moulds  - thats why some people will take immediate offense on this thread it is too obvious or should I say "transparent" to use SS word.)



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CashMoney wrote: ow do you know the wueen is beautiful on the inside


Good question.even though Latifah is the home girl.....and reps New Jersey to the fullest......

she's had her run ins with the law also....got caught with guns and weed in her car and  a DUI(not rumor....fact)

http://media.http://www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2003/01/16/NewsInBrief/Queen.Latifah.Pleads.No.Contest.To.Reckless.Driving-515211.shtml

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To answer the question though..i'd pick Naomi Campbell....

Latifah has NO sex appeal whatsoever.....and after the breast reduction......she has even less.


Any ladies that are offended, that wasn't the intention...just my honest take.



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There seems to be an automatic assumption that Naomi is less of a nice person that Dana.  I'm not so sure.  The assumption that more attractive people have not so nice personalities is flawed, as is the opposite one that less attractive people are more pleasant.



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no disrespect Shemsi, but this thread is kind of pointless.  Male or female, folks tend to be shallow.  No one is going to choose a fat or ugly nice girl/guy when they can have someone attractive regardless of their personality.

Its only after a few times of being burned by pretty girl/pretty guy types who turn out to be nasty that people start looking a lil deeper at the choices they make.  And by then they are probably in their mid thirties with the benefit of maturirty experience and hind sight and looking for more then eye/are candy in a relationship.

Of course you will always get the sad old git still chasing the pretty skirt, but now he needs to flash the cash or be seen in a nice car.  Similarly you get women in their 40's acting/dressing like young women in their 20's still chasing the pretty boy types!!

Plus few people will gladly admit to being shallow!!



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I don't exactly get why being attracted to somebody makes you "shallow".

It's something we seem to accept without thinking about it.  We are designed to be attracted to attrative people.  Fighting that is like deciding not to breathe.

MB the idea you're inevitably going to be "burned" by good looking people is silly.  In fact I think I've met far more viscious and abusive unattractive individuals than the opposite. 

You present a two dimensional weird view that a man is going to go through life childishly being amused by a series of evil attractive women and then grow up to be all mature and clever and decide that personality is all that counts then settle for a cheerful sweet good as gold, heart of the nation, fat ugly person.  I mean please!!

 



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my post wasn;t specifically aimed at men.  I was talking about both male and female.

And when i say "shallow" i should clarify:  I am talking about the folks who are ONLY attracted to people for what they look like, regardless of whether or not they are a "good" person (however you want to define good).  Pehaps i am generalising but it is ostly young people who tend to think that way, though, as i also stated in my last post, it happens with older folks too.

Nuttin wrong with being attracted to an attractive person.  But when you seek to have a "relationship" with someone based strictly on how good they look on your arm, then IMO opinion, that would make the person shallow.

Of course you have just as many nasty unattractive people as you do nice attractive people.  If anything, some unattractive people tend to be "nasty" as they are reacting in bitterness to the way they are treated for being unattractive.  In the same way, some attractive people will not bother being nice as they know they will always get what they want as people will initially act favourably towards them.

I know i present a simplistic view, but that is just my style.  I have a tendancy to break everything down to its simplist form and be honest about how i see things.



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Hey Madam Butterfly, didn't you post you picture on here a while ago?

You look very attractive, although I'm not a fan of nose studs.




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hot damn, you remember that?!?! :shock:

and thank you ;)



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People have a right to be attracted to who they want to. We ALL have a preferance and thats a perfectly natural part of life. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my own preferences when it comes to attraction.

But be honest. Fat people only having inner beauty? is that old cliche still around?

@DtotheJ: I don't find your comment offensive because all you did is state your preference. Thats miles away from the blanket statement that this thread is based on.



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Soulstarr wrote: But be honest. Fat people only having inner beauty? is that old cliche still around?



 

following on from that (and highjacking Shemsis thread ;)) which would you choose to have a long term (as in death do you part) relatioship with:

1) An attractive fat woman/man

2) an unattractive slim woman/man

And you can't say "the fat woman/man coz s/he will lose weight".  Note:  The fat woman/man will remain fat throughout your relationship!!!  (also please note, when i say "fat" i am not speaking ridiculous Big Pun proportions!!!)

** edited in the interests of fairness ;)

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Maybe this could have been a better comparison one is sexy and the other is well uhmmm beautiful on the inside (it is VERY wrong of you  S&T to ASSUME that all  fat people are all beautiful on the inside - you are the people Tyra was talking about who go around making fat people become bulimic to fit your little moulds  - thats why some people will take immediate offense on this thread it is too obvious or should I say "transparent" to use SS word.)



 

For phuck sakes, all you emotional people can exit the thread.  I never made any assumptions that fat people are beautiful inside.  Did you even read my thread-starter or are you just being emotional?  I clearly wrote the following, did you read it?

"Latifah has been said to be a beautiful person with her past songs calling for "Unity" in our community and speaking out against using the denigrating words "bytch" and "ho" to describe our sisters."
Are you even familiar with her old music to relate to what I'm talking about here?



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The Watcher wrote: There seems to be an automatic assumption that Naomi is less of a nice person that Dana.  I'm not so sure.  The assumption that more attractive people have not so nice personalities is flawed, as is the opposite one that less attractive people are more pleasant.


No assumption being made here bro, I specifically picked Naomi because she is known for her egregious behavioral disposition.



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Madam Butterfly wrote: no disrespect Shemsi, but this thread is kind of pointless.  Male or female, folks tend to be shallow.  No one is going to choose a fat or ugly nice girl/guy when they can have someone attractive regardless of their personality.

Its only after a few times of being burned by pretty girl/pretty guy types who turn out to be nasty that people start looking a lil deeper at the choices they make.  And by then they are probably in their mid thirties with the benefit of maturirty experience and hind sight and looking for more then eye/are candy in a relationship.

Of course you will always get the sad old git still chasing the pretty skirt, but now he needs to flash the cash or be seen in a nice car.  Similarly you get women in their 40's acting/dressing like young women in their 20's still chasing the pretty boy types!!

Plus few people will gladly admit to being shallow!!



I disagree, and the reason why has already been demonstrated at least once where Stickup-Kid already said he would pick the Queen over Naomi.



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Madam Butterfly wrote: Soulstarr wrote: But be honest. Fat people only having inner beauty? is that old cliche still around?



 

following on from that (and highjacking Shemsis thread ;)) which would you choose to have a long term (as in death do you part) relatioship with:

1) An attractive fat woman/man

2) an unattractive slim woman/man

And you can't say "the fat woman/man coz s/he will lose weight".  Note:  The fat woman/man will remain fat throughout your relationship!!!  (also please note, when i say "fat" i am not speaking ridiculous Big Pun proportions!!!)

** edited in the interests of fairness ;)




A grown woman will never lose the weight if she is obese...if you have any personal trainer friends, they will tell you the truth.  They just take fat girls' money to train them knowing 99% of the time they will never be thin.  Considering that, I would go with #2...an unattractive slim woman!!!



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 Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 20:35

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stick-upKid wrote: Naomi is far too crazy to be anyone's wife (for long).

QL, well she just ain't my type.

Guess that leaves me a bachelor then. :)


actually, Stick up went against your pre defind grain and picked neither, stating that QL is not his type!!

Now, to my hypothetical premise, who would you go for Shemsi (perosnaltiy out of the equation) an attractive fat woman or an ugly slim woman?!?!  and you have to pick one!!



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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:  They just take fat girls' money to train them knowing 99% of the time they will never be thin. 
 

alot of these women will KNOW they will never be "thin" in terms of a size 10 or less (which i think translates to 8 or less in US sizes) and are just looking to be toned/have a better shape or just be fitter.

But thank you for your honesty.

Now answer your own originally posed question!



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 Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 20:48

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Madam Butterfly wrote: alot of these women will KNOW they will never be "thin" in terms of a size 10 or less (which i think translates to 8 or less in US sizes) and are just looking to be toned/have a better shape or just be fitter.

But thank you for your honesty.


Most will never be a healthy body-fat percentage either.  I'm not talking down to a size 3 or anything like that, but just a healthy weight for their body-type.  Most trainers I know say women have to about 28.  If they don't have their act together by then, then you can chalk it up.



Madam Butterfly wrote: Now answer your own originally posed question!



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again, these women probably don;t care about their body fat percentage, just looking better in their jeans lol  the only people who really obsess about those things are people who are already slim, or people who don;t have that much weight to lose.

Now answer the question (which is your own, after all!!)!!  nice "ugly" girl or nasty "pretty" girl?!?!  May i assume that you would take thin "nasty" girl over fat "nice" girl?!?! lol



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Madam Butterfly wrote: again, these women probably don;t care about their body fat percentage, just looking better in their jeans lol  the only people who really obsess about those things are people who are already slim, or people who don;t have that much weight to lose.

Now answer the question (which is your own, after all!!)!!  nice "ugly" girl or nasty "pretty" girl?!?!  May i assume that you would take thin "nasty" girl over fat "nice" girl?!?! lol



To be honest, I would have to give the nasty pretty-slimmy girl a try first.  I would probably have to crash and burn with a half dozen before considering the nice fat chick.  The relationship really isn't going to be about anything if I am not aroused.



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