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Which is More Important...BEAUTY on the *Inside* or *Outside*?...Queen Latifah or Naomi Campbell???
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 Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 21:21

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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:  The relationship really isn't going to be about anything if I am not aroused.


i understand that men and women are different in these respects, but a part of me still doesn;t understand the part of a man who would sleep with the nastiest of b**ches simply because they mae a few inches of your body hard.  Then complain when women say they are ruled by that part lol

but i again respect your honesty.

so as far as you are concerned, anything goes as long as it;s slim?!?!  even if she is ugy and nasty lol  well hey, that's you and you are entitled to your preference, as is everybody.

For my part, i can appreciate a pretty face on a man, but if his personality was off then i would be completly put off.  And if i am truly honest, i couldn;t be with someone who was horrendously, horrifically ugly or horrendously, horrifically overweight, no matter how nice they were.  And i have to say, it's a part of myself i don;t really like, so i won;t even try to defend it.  (And please note, i say "horrendoulsy, horrifically".  This does not mean Mr. "below average".)



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 Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 22:32

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A grown woman will never lose the weight if she is obese...if you have any personal trainer friends, they will tell you the truth. 


No part of this is true in the slightest. As long as a person is able to be honest with themselves about their relationship with food, and decide to make changes in their behaviour, then it is possible for an obese person to lose weight. I've even seen some get down to a size 8(uk)



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 01:36

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Interesting points made by all. As The Watcher  said, "attractive" people don't necessarily have bad personalities and "unattractive" people don't necessarily have nice personalities. The reason that SEEMS to be the case, is because many people are more inclined to ACCEPT phucked up behavior from those they deem "attractive" and be quick to kick the "unattractive" type to the curb, if they act up,lol.  Beyond that, as MB said, many people don't "require" much more from those they deem "pretty or fine", or look deeper/further, except that they look good, so there is sometimes no motivation for those who are exceptionally good looking to develop other qualities, or work as hard, as it were.

 I'm as interested in looks as the next person, but I can truly say that I have had the experience of intially finding someone physically attractive, I get a dose of their messed up personality, or they open their mouth and start saying all kinds of stupid sh*t, and any arousal I formerly felt is GONE. They literally become Ugly to me.  Conversely, I've had the experience of not finding someone particuarly attractive in a physical way, gotten to know them, and started to progressively become attracted to them, and I don't mean a pity attraction. I mean I really start to think they are HOT,lol.  Of course there are limits to this,the person has to fall with in what I consider the normal range of attractiveness. There is a difference between someone not necessarily knocking your socks off in the looks department at first glance/not being your "type", and finding that person repulsively unattractive. The latter is not likely to be overcome, no matter how "nice" the person is, or how many great qualities they have.

 



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 01:54

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Madam Butterfly wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:  The relationship really isn't going to be about anything if I am not aroused.


i understand that men and women are different in these respects, but a part of me still doesn;t understand the part of a man who would sleep with the nastiest of b**ches simply because they mae a few inches of your body hard.  Then complain when women say they are ruled by that part lol

but i again respect your honesty.

so as far as you are concerned, anything goes as long as it;s slim?!?!  even if she is ugy and nasty lol  well hey, that's you and you are entitled to your preference, as is everybody.

For my part, i can appreciate a pretty face on a man, but if his personality was off then i would be completly put off.  And if i am truly honest, i couldn;t be with someone who was horrendously, horrifically ugly or horrendously, horrifically overweight, no matter how nice they were.  And i have to say, it's a part of myself i don;t really like, so i won;t even try to defend it.  (And please note, i say "horrendoulsy, horrifically".  This does not mean Mr. "below average".)


I think that generally speaking, men are more visual than women are, plus I think they can comparmentalize in this area, a little more than we can. Not liking a woman or thinking she's a cold hearted b**ch doesn't necessarily get in the way of a man wanting to have sex with her,(it may ENHANCE things,sexually, as a matter of fact,lol). At least that's the impression I get from a lot of men. Which is why so many of them find themselves in some of the situations they find themselves in, vis a vis certain women, and then of course  we all  have to hear about it, ad nauseam.......

I think women tend to have a more integrated view. It's harder for us to separate how a man acts/what he says/how he does or doesn't make us feel,  from how he looks. Harder for us to switch on, JUST based on the physical. That's not to say we can't/don't do it, but I think it's much harder for us to do it. Whereas, it seems to come quite naturally to most men.

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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 09:03

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I think that generally speaking, men are more visual than women are, plus I think they can comparmentalize in this area, a little more than we can.   You are absolutely correct.  We men are visual simple creatures.  Every man that I know is that way.  It's like controlled tunnel vision.  We focus on one thing and can tune everything else out to our own detriment at times. 


Not liking a woman or thinking she's a cold hearted b**ch doesn't necessarily get in the way of a man wanting to have sex with her,(it may ENHANCE things,sexually, as a matter of fact,lol). At least that's the impression I get from a lot of men.  As you said it can sometimes enhance sexual experience or the chase.  Because it then becomes a goal to proof that you tame the shrew so to speak.  

I think women tend to have a more integrated view. It's harder for us to separate how a man acts/what he says/how he does or doesn't make us feel,  from how he looks. Harder for us to switch on, JUST based on the physical. That's not to say we can't/don't do it, but I think it's much harder for us to do it.  That's because you women are much more complex then we are.  You require in most cases an emotional connection.  That's why a guy saying or doing something that you may feel is stupid can completely turn you all off.  Us on the other hand if we are horny (which is most of the time) it doesn't matter what she says or does because we aren't paying attention anyway.  All we want is the sex.  We just nod our heads and pretend to be interested all the while thinking "I can't wait to tap that a**.  Especially when men are younger (under 25).  I know that is true for most of the guys I know.  Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but I think the majority of younger guys are this way.  I know I was that way for a while until I had an ephinany that completely changed me.   



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 14:42

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It'd have to be Naomi, would try reform her. blkwhip

The sex appeal just isn't on Q.L especially after those beach photos. Tough because its purely superficial. Would probably warm to Q.L but she'd be too cosy for my liking, Naomi would be a laugh. Her brother says shes not that bad anyway... just the press needing a personality to play on.

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 Posted: Monday April 30th, 2007 13:02

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Soulstarr wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:

A grown woman will never lose the weight if she is obese...if you have any personal trainer friends, they will tell you the truth. 


No part of this is true in the slightest. As long as a person is able to be honest with themselves about their relationship with food, and decide to make changes in their behaviour, then it is possible for an obese person to lose weight. I've even seen some get down to a size 8(uk)


Perhaps, but the likelihood of that happening once a woman approaches in her late 20's approaching 30 is very slim.  Her body chemistry changes, and it becomes extremely difficult (according to the physical trainers & athletic trainers I know).  Not that it can't be done, but most of the time it just isn't going to happen once a woman reaches a certain age unless she had it together before.



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 Posted: Monday April 30th, 2007 13:05

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I think that generally speaking, men are more visual than women are, plus I think they can comparmentalize in this area, a little more than we can. Not liking a woman or thinking she's a cold hearted b**ch doesn't necessarily get in the way of a man wanting to have sex with her,(it may ENHANCE things,sexually, as a matter of fact,lol). At least that's the impression I get from a lot of men. Which is why so many of them find themselves in some of the situations they find themselves in, vis a vis certain women, and then of course  we all  have to hear about it, ad nauseam.......



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 Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 17:15

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I don't know either women on a personal basis, but if I had to pick one it would be Queen Latifah. Naomi Campbell has a serious attitude problem that really make her look bad( sometimes I wonder if she's bipolar?). Not only do I think that Queen has a suny disposition, but she is physically pretty. She may be full-figured, but it should have nothing to do with her face.I've sen very pretty women, but once they display their ugly side I thought " Now I would never want my brother to be bothered with her". Honestly, I would want my brother to be bothered with Naomi Campbell type and I also notice that he doesn't.He doesn't like women with nasty attitudes or filthy mouths, no matter how good they look. I wouldn't want to deal with a guy with those attitributes!



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