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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 15:08 |
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I am a Black man and proud of it.work damm hard , never been to jail, never been in a gang, proud father to a son, so I have already broken many of the stereotypes that many people in our world believe about every black man. If I had 200 kids, I would take care of them no matter how I felt about their mothers, because that is what real men do.
The only jewelry I own is my chain and bracelet (if you don’t count my Citizen Eco-Drive Sky Hawk watch). I don’t think that I need diamonds, which I believe are just good to look at because they have no other purpose. I don’t need an expensive car because I don’t “live� in my car. No DVD players or TV’s in the steering wheel or any of that nonsense. I’m a simple man.
I think people, especially OUR people, waste too much money on cars, jewelry, rims, trying to either IMPRESS other people or “keep up with the Joneses�. Many of our people confuse other people’s likes/wants/desires with our own. I don’t know how many times I have heard a guy talk about he got his expensive car (40K plus) because the women like it or so that he could pull women.
Aside from that many of us punish our kids by not paying support to get back at the mother which we can’t stand anymore. There is no reason not to pay child support when the kid is yours. None.
We are losing Black women to white males & lesbians. Many of us are thinking solely about p***y without any concern or thought about relationships. Many of us are afraid of marriage, like we think we are gonna miss something by being married. No matter how terrible condoms feel, you are much better off using one than not. Many of us don’t realize that unprotected sex leads to kids and worse. Don’t start on “babies are blessings�, because a baby can derail life/career plans like a drunk train operator making a sharp turn at 70 MPH. If you aren’t ready for that responsibility AND the financial responsibility you are in trouble.
I am not saying we have to live like saints, and not buy anything we don’t need. I am saying we have to be smarter about our money decisions for one. The expensive car market targets us. We pay big bucks for cars, yet we are renting and not owning. We feel we have to be the first on our block to get this or that, and it is not a diploma or degree. We have kids spread out all over the city, and a different girl 2 to 3 times a week. Many of us are grown men living like we are in high school. Tricks are for kids. We need to grow up. We base our life decisions on what “our boys� will think of it or her. One of my friends dumped a girl he really liked because his boys called her ugly. She wasn’t ugly to him, but he couldn’t stand the ridicule or stand up for himself so he left her alone.
The whole world looks at us like a joke. Driving around in our Lexus’ and Beamers, when we would be much better off buying a little less expensive car and saving some of that money. Black women go to white men because the think that black men aren’t worth the trouble. I know I am all over the map, and this lacks structure, but it is Sunday . What can we do as black men to change our image, to reinvent ourselves so that we can be proud of ourselves?
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 15:11 |
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oh and by the way this is a mono racial sunbject.
before anyway sais "who cares what others think"
im talking bout OUR ELDERS OUR WOMEN AND OUR YOUNGSTERS GROWING UP NOW.
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 15:49 |
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First black men don't control the media. So i have no personal responsibility for those who do other than to protest or used organised power to bring about change if that is strategically possible within available resources.
Secondly, you can do nothing about those who are so inclined to act in these ways except to challenge it when it manfiests and take it from there.
Thirdly, and where I do make the point strongly it is where you do have power such as here that men should act appropriately eg not starting sh*t threads about how many women you f**ked in the quickest or shortest time.
Fourthly, you cannot live life or fight a battle strategically by constantly responding to your enemies agenda or imagery. Those men who are not like that simply continue doing what they do and improve and develop the appropriate strategies, mechanisms and organisations and networks..
Don't live my life saying I don't wear jewellery which I don't or never have minus my wedding ring and watch or I don't own a lexus or I don't chase half white/red skin women. f**k that.
Men live their lives in the affirmative not constantly reacting to brainless and confused fools. The only women who I need to establish my image with are those who it is already well established with. Not women here or young girls..
Trust me when I go into my lecture hall or seminar room or have a one to one with a student I have no need to establish my image with anyone. It done establish long time and that is the same else where.
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 16:39 |
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so with that being said am I correct in thinking that your one of these "well me and mines are ok..." type people? please tell me if im incorrect.
its just while out today I say the ploce shaking down 2 young brothas in a traffic stop...you know the drill checkin details and such like, and I thought the dreaded thought today..."they are probably drug dealers"
now I know im not an elder and should have slapped myself for thinking like that but damm if I thought that (and im quite liberal) then what do older folk think?.
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 16:56 |
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Bp that was a joy to read, an acknowledgment to us moving forward as a people.  As a Black woman, I stand up and say we too need to come correct as well. 
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 16:59 |
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Thank you..
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:07 |
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:11 |
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people should always be looking for new ways to improve themselves
may I ask why not?
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:20 |
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:34 |
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I dont think that anyone really sees all Black men in this way and I think you're actually quite paranoid.
Im not disputing that the stereotype doesnt exist but I don't think you should be concerned about the perceptions of the type of person (even if they are Black) that beleive that all Black men are like that.
Basicly, every Black person with sense knows that the massive majority of Black men are decent guys. (White people might think otherwise but that DEFINITELY isnt worth caring about!)
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:53 |
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so with that being said am I correct in thinking that your one of these "well me and mines are ok..." type people? please tell me if im incorrect.
Well yes and no. I have no mandate or moral obligation to save the black male world or everyblack man in Britain on the assumption that they want to be saved. I have an obligtion first to myself and those around me eg family kin, bredrin and so forth and so on and those I have vowed to assist eg organised brothers and sisters attempting to make a difference or provide service. I have a ethical duty, and probably do more than most to make sure in my work enemy proganda about black men or women for that matter does not go unchallenged and it does not.
So yep if mine are alright I am quite happy. I don't have to sweat myself outside of that.
You don't win no war by allowing your enemy to define for you what the problem is and then by extension attempt to response in the opposite .
f**k them what did Lenin say no man can live in state of permanent opposition.
It's a bit like Kunjufu's argument on the gun crime thing which I support down the line vis a vis gun crime and I have argued elsewhere. Why am I being asked to sort out all the missing father's in the country when I never grind any of those women or never tricked them into pregnancy.
Black men have to be wise and don't let the system take us in with this sh*t about we are responsible for institutional behaviour or marketing strategies.
I am responsible for what I am responsible for. As Master Bob said I shot the Sherrif..Nuff said..
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 18:50 |
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REAL TALK: What can we do as Black Men improve the perception of Black Men?
Looking through the Men's folder, I'd say things would improve slightly if 90% of the people who participate in it alot would die or develop Parkinson's disease.
Though perhaps the best bet is to hope that the other races are blind.
An even better bet is to develop an individual personality, and not do and talk the same sh*te as the next person. Then perhaps people won't have reason to use race as an excuse for certain behaviours.
Personally I say any race that gets negative stereotypes even off their own is in big trouble. Irreversible trouble at that.
The only positive I can think of is that things won't be too bad for all that long since alot of black men who are the main cause of the stereotypes don't breed with their own anyway.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 00:12 |
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BP said correctly, 'people should always be looking for new ways to improve themselves
Yes we do that for ourselves and should do that. But not because of what the white media says or does not say or some ill-informed fools say. In my organisation we have a very formal mechanism for doing that, but you don't have to be part of anything to operate in that way.
All of us regardless of rank and responsibilities have to identify two areas one either economical or political and the other personal eg family or something similar and identify key goals in each area to be achieved by a specific time.
What those goals are will be dependent on your resources, opportunities, constraints and importantly your postion or status. Those higher in the chain of command so to speak have bigger more complex challenges, while another brother it may be saving £20. more or get a job which pays so much more so he can save more to do other things..It could be marrying your child's mother if you have a decent relationship and that is what she wants but the man has falled into this casual type culture and has no real principled reasons for not being married.
Each man will have his own challenges and issues.
But to repeat that has nothing to do with how this issue was introduced or what others think...or do not think.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 00:37 |
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Black power: on a serious tip....the answer is not complicated...in fact its simple...the problem however is its execution..that sir is harder than hell itself...
A BLACK man need do only on thing and one thing only and that is to:
QUESTION?
Question: why is it that a woman who is slim, light skinned and European is my ideal of 'perfection'?
Question: am I in control or am I being controlled?
Question: how can I know that certain music is bad, but do nothing to change my habit of listening to it?
Question: why do I not challenge my friends, when they use the N word around me, and why are they my friends?
Question: when am i going to stop asking and start finding out for myself?
Question: why is it that i can read verbatim any bling mag, any skanty panty mag, and yet struggle to pick up let alone read through a book on positive black issue?
Question: is my views on women positive, if not where did I get these views from and why can't i change?
Question: am I a MAN, and what does that mean?
I could go on...but the point is questioning one's reality is the key..then exploring the answers to those questions is how one moves forward....
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 02:19 |
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should we subscribe to another persons ideas of who/what we should be?
we are a wonderful people and if we keep this in mind, anything can improve...even if its a small amount..(small steps are better than big wading strides)
to improve our people we might want to think at our inner selves first, what makes us tick what narks us off..... anything really about ourselves. our own inner image
then we can become more global in our approach to our people...still keeping ourselves in check.
to each there own...there are going to be people who want a high powered lifestyle...cars....money...perhaps this is the 'image' part of your post...we cannot all be the same
why do you feel that you are 'Losing' black women to white men and lesbians? no need to actually answer but its something for you to think about. this feels to be the most pertinent part of the post to me.
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 03:43 |
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 Perception when it comes to anything is subjective. perception is also a natural human cognitive mind process. But the danger is many of us get caught up and held back in life over perceptions we are not prepared to challenge in our own minds therefore this leaves our minds closed where as if we were to take time to study our subject and look at it from all angles we would have a more balanced viewpoint.
Not entirely sure what the purpose of this thread was but heyyyy I will roll with this let me ask you a question
Do you mean how can we improve our perception of each other or whites peoples perception of us.??????????
If you meant that then all I have to say is you are what you are and I am what I am none of us are the same in reality as we are individuals so for anyone to have a perception of a whole race of people I would be asking them to dig deep into the depths of their mind and challenge their own thought process.
Sorry to seem like I am going off on a tangent here brothers and sisters but this topic is deep. When we talk of perception we are moving into psychology here
How you percieve me is down to your own
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Posted: Tuesday January 16th, 2007 19:33 |
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Posted: Tuesday January 16th, 2007 20:23 |
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yea I see you kunjufu.
I will respond forthwidth but Im getting that multiple post ish and the mo
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Posted: Saturday January 27th, 2007 02:40 |
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| Stop being the black male stereotype. Simple
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 17:40 |
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are you sure they really see us as jokes?, or jealousy when we driving our cars?.
anyway the moment i stopped trying to impress mofo's thats when i became a better person. we never seem to learn that.
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 17:53 |
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Handle your business and carry yourself as a MAN.
Collectively lets make all stereotypes pure fukkery!!
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