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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 15:51 |
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Black women see exactly what Black men have to work against not so long ago we were fighting a double whammy of discrimination ourselves. it just seems as thugh Black men have the view that Black women have progressed faster as we are seen as less of a "threat" to White society. As a result, Black men are being held down all the more.
However, Black women are frequently ainted as being too blind/dumb/materialistic/in love with whitey to see it.
The truth is we do see it. We are just sick f so much vitriol/envy/bitterness being placed at our door when we personally have done nothing to warrent it.
Thats why i find debates like this quite absurd when it is known that it is more common for Black men to date interacially and extol the virtues of White women.
Perhaps instead of playing the "blame game" we should actually try working together. Or is the Black man to busy making us complicit in his downfall and dating white women to bother with us anymore?
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 15:54 |
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After 3 - 1, 2, 3 Tis the season to be jolly fah lah-lah-lah lah-lah lah lah!
Justavoice - shame on you, you should be here spreading your christian love
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 16:00 |
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I'm plenty jolly
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 16:02 |
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Incognito wrote: MB - I'm all for equality just can't take them women who turn up withall their money magic yet their ears are full of wax. The fact that they'd want to put such a ridiculous title like Independant Woman on themselves tells you them and babylon are spars.
Come to think of it, does any guy wanna be around those women anyway? There are enough quality black women that can overshadow the chickenheads, but it depends on ones circles also, provided the quality women don't change due to a life altering experience. For a while now I been meeting alot of real good level headed women(strictly on a platonic level though, I enjoy them better that way). I think with more 'clubs' like BNV, Ligali, etc the same kinds of people can build relationships. You would think one would avoid the dead weight, but for some reason they can't survive without our attention, yet they're so 'progressive' and beyond us, go figure.Last edited on Friday December 15th, 2006 16:03 by DSP
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 16:07 |
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So what would the opposite of an independant woman be? a dependant woman?
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 16:08 |
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lol@Incognito
Bro there nothing but love for my brothers and sisters posting on here.
madam butterfly, i do respect and i can see she is a very thought provoking person.
love is to speak truely and i think we are doing that on both sides here, as you said mostly we chat because we do care. We just hard when we speak to each other. but that fine, thats how i know i'm really speaking to black people. lol
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 16:16 |
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 17:34 |
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You have alot of time on your hands and you spend even more time concerning me.
I would hope so, I've been working about 90 hours a week recently.
24 hours in a day is alot of time though, and within that, dealing with you has been most entertaining.
I certainly can't say the same about you. I could careless about the way you think about me . I won't spend the time going back and explain all the things you bring up that would make me just as bad as you.
Embarrassing isn't it.
I won't let you waste my time P.M. super hero.
Yes, go back to watching thundercats, and why the hell are you pretending to be female? *lol*
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 19:36 |
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Black_Power wrote: Prince Hakeem wrote: I'm not a mod (yet), but even I will close down this thread if starts to get chupid!!
Continue......
dawg the day you make mod is the day I make mod
One day I will kidnap all the mods and hold them hostage.
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 19:45 |
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I would like to hear your take on how we should go about removing this conditioning to all things western because I believe that this is one of the main causes of this discussion even having to be bought up.
Well in light of any positive brainwashing or conditioning what will you have left? Its gone too far down the line now. Since black women have got a bly in the workplace its ineviatable that things would go that way after all that was the whole purpose of the strategy in the first place. Not to mention the free money for baby mothers which gives many young women the 'option'. Most people havent got the will or inclination to think otherwise anyway.
Nah it will take a new type of thinking and economic system before that happens. Monkey see monkey do. Its a waste of time here in the UK to expect any sort of shift. A good 75% of black people are knee deep in the sh*t and loving it.. half of whats left have no organisational strength. The rest god bless them are working and pissing in the sea as far as any effect is concerned. Sorry bro I dont have any answers. Apart from work hard and leave to a more sane form of living before the system does your head in.
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 19:55 |
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Bredder Tukoma wrote:
Well in light of any positive brainwashing or conditioning what will you have left? Its gone too far down the line now. Since black women have got a bly in the workplace its ineviatable that things would go that way after all that was the whole purpose of the strategy in the first place. Not to mention the free money for baby mothers which gives many young women the 'option'. Most people havent got the will or inclination to think otherwise anyway.
Nah it will take a new type of thinking and economic system before that happens. Monkey see monkey do. Its a waste of time here in the UK to expect any sort of shift. A good 75% of black people are knee deep in the sh*t and loving it.. half of whats left have no organisational strength. The rest god bless them are working and pissing in the sea as far as any effect is concerned. Sorry bro I dont have any answers. Apart from work hard and leave to a more sane form of living before the system does your head in.
I am afraid that I came to that conclusion myself, that it might be too late for this place. But that doesn't matter. I have a new life ahead of me away from this place. I do not wish to stay here and I will leave as soon as I can make it out. I'm hoping 5-7 years if I can't get the money faster. This place is killing us and there are people as you said out there working their hardest to do the work but it's almost as if they are trying to put a plaster on a gun shot wound. However the people who run this place are running it into the ground. In a few years Britain will never be a safe and free place to live so I guess that does leave it open for those who are willing to leave here to set up wherever they go and work with the people in their new homes to create this new ideology and new economic system. I still think there is much hope for our people. Just none here.
Thanks for your reply though. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 20:25 |
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Bredder Tukoma wrote: Do blackwomen secretly think that the whiteman is better then the blackman?
Whats the secret? Its no secret. After black men are constantly judged according to white values.. hence "he's too "ghettto".. maening hasnt got enough white mannerisms/ not professional enough (meaning he doesnt have a job title they can fawn over".. run to police and white power structures i.e courthouse and social services to solve internal family problems..not enough black fathers (as if it absolves them of their own mistakes in picking up the latest hoodlum to breed with) etc etc.
Any women who expresses the above/ values white male power structures above anything black men can and do build. Unfortunately there are all too many of them around. Henece many black women in the West would scorn living in the Carribean or Africa because its too far from the norm of white values and power structures. Speak to most brothers and they would jump at the chance.
Noticed the same thing. Some might call it lack of adaptability, but many brothers don't feel comfortable living in a sociaty where they aren't the alpha male. Whenever their is talk of going back home, it's always the brothers(of course with exceptions).
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In all my 30 years in this country I have NEVER heard another black woman say that they think whitemen are better than black, I would be suprised if they even thought it. Yes some may date the odd non-black man and some may cuss black men saying they are wotless or are all with white women but even in those type of rantings, I have never heard them say that they think a whiteman is better. Don't happen. On average whitemen may have more money than blackmen in this country but the type of person who believes that having more money makes you a better person isn't that right in the head anyway.
Trust, if black women really did think whitemen were better, we would be with them in our droves because plenty times I have been out whitemen of all types have stepped to me and I've had to tell them them thanks for the compliement but no thanks. Some white men love off black women, after Beyonce came out they got more brazen about their 'taboo lust' too but many are just scared to make it public because they know black men and white women are not in it. On the other hand I cannot see some black men's fascination with white women, why would you go out with a women who by the age of 25 has already got wrinkles and by bthe time they are 45 looks like Pauline from Eastenders? Madness.
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RasRuben wrote:I am afraid that I came to that conclusion myself, that it might be too late for this place. But that doesn't matter. I have a new life ahead of me away from this place. I do not wish to stay here and I will leave as soon as I can make it out. I'm hoping 5-7 years if I can't get the money faster. This place is killing us and there are people as you said out there working their hardest to do the work but it's almost as if they are trying to put a plaster on a gun shot wound. However the people who run this place are running it into the ground. In a few years Britain will never be a safe and free place to live so I guess that does leave it open for those who are willing to leave here to set up wherever they go and work with the people in their new homes to create this new ideology and new economic system. I still think there is much hope for our people. Just none here.
Thanks for your reply though. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
Damn right!! I look forward to posting from my new home thousands of miles away from this rassclaat dump in a few years time.
If I'm generous I may send oonu a postcard! 
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Trust, if black women really did think whitemen were better, we would be with them in our droves because plenty times I have been out whitemen of all types have stepped to me and I've had to tell them them thanks for the compliement but no thanks. Some white men love off black women, after Beyonce came out they got more brazen about their 'taboo lust' too but many are just scared to make it public because they know black men and white women are not in it.
For the record white men don't "love off" African women, they love African p***y - there's a difference. Same way their female counterparts view African men as breathing vibrators.
Africans - male or female - just shouldn't be with them fullstop.
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Posted: Friday December 15th, 2006 22:08 |
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babygirl44 wrote: In all my 30 years in this country I have NEVER heard another black woman say that they think whitemen are better than black, I would be suprised if they even thought it. Yes some may date the odd non-black man and some may cuss black men saying they are wotless or are all with white women but even in those type of rantings, I have never heard them say that they think a whiteman is better. Don't happen.
very true, some may to choose date outside- there is nothing wrong with SOME blk men or women who find a soul mate from a different race, but NOT LOADS, that just cant be "true" love now can it... ahem brothers!
On average whitemen may have more money than blackmen in this country but the type of person who believes that having more money makes you a better person isn't that right in the head anyway.
Trust, if black women really did think whitemen were better, we would be with them in our droves because plenty times I have been out whitemen of all types have stepped to me and I've had to tell them them thanks for the compliement but no thanks. Some white men love off black women, after Beyonce came out they got more brazen about their 'taboo lust' too but many are just scared to make it public because they know black men and white women are not in it.
yes they do, i think the volume and frequency of the default IR pairing (you know who!!) has made the once timid secret white male admirer more bare faced and confident- seemingly there is no possesive and unwilling black man left standing in his way with anti crazed millitant IR resistence, so they have nothing left to fear--- many black men are simply too busy with sharon/ tracey aka "trace" or emma and the kids enjoying a "natural" attraction to the joys of an IR relationship to care, so why should white men respect the "black mans turf" if they don't?
On the other hand I cannot see some black men's fascination with white women, why would you go out with a women who by the age of 25 has already got wrinkles and by bthe time they are 45 looks like Pauline from Eastenders? Madness.
simple.... a white women's skin is not black- only requirement!
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Madam Butterfly wrote: Do Black men REALLY have such an inferiority complex? And if so, does it make them feel better to blame it on Black women?
Yes and yes. The evidence is right here on this forum. Boo hoo hoo, the white man is using black women against me. Boo hoo hoo, black women get more acceptance in this society than I do. Boo frigging hoo. I have never seen such a sad pathetic display of "manhood". But what actually irks me is the quickness with which they will try and explain away any progress we make as part of the white man's plan to destroy them. Some of these people should hold several degrees in the art of victimization. When many of them make a little money, they're only too quick to go pick up some pork, move to their neighbours to live "the good life", yet we're the one's in league with whitey? Well I guess it's better to be delusional than to admit that black women do better than you because they work harder.
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Peacemaker wrote: kiley wrote:
You have alot of time on your hands and you spend even more time concerning me.
I would hope so, I've been working about 90 hours a week recently.
24 hours in a day is alot of time though, and within that, dealing with you has been most entertaining.
I certainly can't say the same about you. I could careless about the way you think about me . I won't spend the time going back and explain all the things you bring up that would make me just as bad as you.
Embarrassing isn't it.
I won't let you waste my time P.M. super hero.
Yes, go back to watching thundercats, and why the hell are you pretending to be female? *lol*
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DSP wrote: Incognito wrote: MB - I'm all for equality just can't take them women who turn up withall their money magic yet their ears are full of wax. The fact that they'd want to put such a ridiculous title like Independant Woman on themselves tells you them and babylon are spars.
Come to think of it, does any guy wanna be around those women anyway? There are enough quality black women that can overshadow the chickenheads, but it depends on ones circles also, provided the quality women don't change due to a life altering experience. For a while now I been meeting alot of real good level headed women(strictly on a platonic level though, I enjoy them better that way). I think with more 'clubs' like BNV, Ligali, etc the same kinds of people can build relationships. You would think one would avoid the dead weight, but for some reason they can't survive without our attention, yet they're so 'progressive' and beyond us, go figure.
DSP - when these black women declare themselves as independant, who do they think they are targetting with that message....it wouldn't be black men would it
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kiley wrote:
I would never be embrassed by someone like you. Again.
Hahahaha Wrong.
you give out unrequested information.
Correct, let's do it again, below.
I said my bit on this, I no longer have the interest in arguing with you so I'll leave the discussion at that.
Discussion, nani?. Don't you mean your complete and utter mental breakdown caused by my malevolent intent I might add.. I can see your bottom lip quivering.
Super Hero Peacemaker turned evil. I like that plotline, I could crowbar it into that German sitcom.
kiley wrote: Seriously,why are some of us going by the notion of evolution? (I'm not talking about about the christians of course),but evolution was built to belittle Africans. I personally believe in the biblical fact that proves God created humans. All humans are son of Adam and daughters of Eve. Besides evolutionist create attitudies of superiority,hate,resentment etc amongst the races.
I'm not saying that we should allow Evolutionist to say what they want about Africans or whatever,but I believe we play right into their hands when we get close in by the 'Out-of-Africa' type thinking. Evolutionist will forever dig for knowledge about race and human-kind ,but they never will know the real Deal, because they are lunny out of site people who can't grasp the fact that there is a God.
Its all good for them to believe that Europeans are the greatest race in the world or that whites built in every part of the world ,or that some races came from this place or out of space and so on,but the second a few confused persons of african heritage start guessing about history, they quickly forget and turn into mental cases.
And that's why I believe some of us should stay out of this secert mess that they call "evolution" and anthropology they'll search aslong as they can to find things to support racism and superiority amongst races.They'll never know.
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Melanesian DNA :
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/08/melanesian-and-asian-origins-of.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/286/5447/2054b
If you take a good look at the body type of the man in the first picture holding the child, you'll find that his body type is not that of contiental Africans or Diasporans.His nose is more fleshy than that of Africans.
After thousands of years san bushmen still have African DNA,hundreds of years in the diaspora & people of African descent still have African DNA,sckull types and body type.
Paupa. N. are not Africans, looks has nothing to do with DNA & race.If they migrated from Tanzania years ago,why don't they look like Tanzanians?
Tanzanian kids:
http://www.tanzanianchildrensfund.org/images/TCF-Photos2/76.jpg
I didn't say we shouldn't worry about their cause either,thats besides the point. Calling people who are not Africans African doesn't make sense.
Someone like me eh, *chuckles* What do you mean, I'm a super hero dude. f**k yeah.
Hell kid, you embarrass yourself well enough without my intervention.
Here's a nice site for you
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/1/269
Oh I forget, you don't believe in it do you. *lol*
Ps, everytime you make a post, I'll just show you for the lying, filthy, hypocrite you are.
I personally hope Black_Power doesn't get you removed, besides I like being called a super hero genius...even if I'm slightly evil.
Peacemaker, evil to the wrongdoer's.
It could be a manga that rivals Deathnote.
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