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Do blackwomen secretly think that the whiteman is better then the blackman?
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 Posted: Sunday May 20th, 2007 01:40

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Vezz. wrote: Da_Main_Man wrote: I think from my experience black women do think white men are better than black men. Especially if your a black man from africa who speaks in a african voice. You may as well be scum of the earth as far as black women are concerned.

As for other black men then I reckon it is also true. Black women ADORE white men. I have NEVER seen a white man get attitude when he steps to a black women (Never seen it). They WORSHIP white men and plus black women will gladly go out with a white man who is below her in terms of looks and income but they would not do the same for a black man.

When black women talk about black men they like, they ONLY talk about the fantasy N****rs like the Morris Chesnut's , Tyson Beckford's, LL Cool J's of this world. Ol Leroy from the area doesn't cut it.

So unless your 0.0001% of the black male population you ain't got much chance.


You have issues, you know that??

How on earth can you say Black women ADORE White men....the thought of lying next to some pale skin makes me feel sick, and I KNOW I'm not in the minority. blkclapSay it again sis!!

Plus if you, as a Black man, steps to a girl saying "Wha'ppen" or worse "pssst", of course you're going to get attitude.

I don't know where you're from, but in my area there are some fine examples of Black men - I know, I'm married to one! Tell me about it ever since I started looking at the brotehrs in "that" way I know there's no room for looking anywhere else...and let all of that goodness go to waste?! You musse mad.

So, keep your hatred for Black women to yourself and see if Becky is available...... LMAO





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im usually someone conscious of whats hapening around him. 2 years a go im canary station neard greenwich. i was in the station reading my paper when this white girl came and sat by me, she smiles at me an every thing wanted me to chat her up.

 i noticed this sister fumming from afar. now note that this woman or girl was with a whiteman or id say he was mixed because i saw them kissing goodbye earlier on before i entered the station. she was all smiles shinning her damn teeth to the world to me manily like look i got one. she was a pretty sister too , very hot.

so there i was reading my paper having small talk with this white girl who was hot by the way. when this sister just came and sat in between both of us. she never moved until the trains came. when i looked at her she screwed face at me and had this i'd kill you look to this white woman it was so fuking hilarious.

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let me get this straight, the black women has a white man, and she is the one fronting on you?? How come??  confused3 Because you were just talking to this white girl, not f**king her at the train station! The darn cheek of that black women, who see no problem being f**ked six ways from Sunday by a white man...if i where you i would said excuse me get the f**k outta the way, before you become parts of the train track!

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 Posted: Tuesday May 22nd, 2007 01:07

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BIG L wrote: the soul machine wrote:
im usually someone conscious of whats hapening around him. 2 years a go im canary station neard greenwich. i was in the station reading my paper when this white girl came and sat by me, she smiles at me an every thing wanted me to chat her up.

 i noticed this sister fumming from afar. now note that this woman or girl was with a whiteman or id say he was mixed because i saw them kissing goodbye earlier on before i entered the station. she was all smiles shinning her damn teeth to the world to me manily like look i got one. she was a pretty sister too , very hot.

so there i was reading my paper having small talk with this white girl who was hot by the way. when this sister just came and sat in between both of us. she never moved until the trains came. when i looked at her she screwed face at me and had this i'd kill you look to this white woman it was so fuking hilarious.

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let me get this straight, the black women has a white man, and she is the one fronting on you?? How come??  confused3 Because you were just talking to this white girl, not f**king her at the train station! The darn cheek of that black women, who see no problem being f**ked six ways from Sunday by a white man...if i where you i would said excuse me get the f**k outta the way, before you become parts of the train track!

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Fun that you say it, but I have seen it as well, though it was moslt some women cussing some wannabe thugs, regardless of it the cussing women were dating YT...and cursing the wannabe thugs at the samr time....




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 Posted: Tuesday May 22nd, 2007 08:40

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Big L actually said the man was mixed race. The girl shouldn't have done that though.



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 Posted: Thursday May 31st, 2007 17:25

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chi wrote: Big L actually said the man was mixed race. The girl shouldn't have done that though.

And I highly doubt if she did.  It's usually black men clinging to white women that foam at the mouth observing black women who are not alone.  Many white women even talk about black men not being able to enjoy themselves once they spot black women with nonblack men. 


 



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 chi wrote: Big L actually said the man was mixed race. The girl shouldn't have done that though.

It's about principle....though you are right


 

 

 


 



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Well, I'm a British born, Nigerian sister. In the past, I have dated a couple of Nigerian men, an Ivorian man and a British-born Grenadan man. I have never dated a white man and although I find some white men attractive, I generally find black men more alluring, especially educated West Africans. My West African boyfriends have had many attractive attributes, such as a sense of responsibility towards their family (especially if they're back home), a dedication to self-improvement and progress (even in the face of adversity) and a calm, amiable demeanour.  

However, with my two longest relationships, which were with a Nigerian man (a year and a half) and an Ivorian (almost seven years), they both also displayed the unedible characteristic of self-centredness and arrogance. But they wouldn't be like this around other people - just me! I've chosen to call this behaviour the 'African man superiority complex'! Basically, they behaved in such a way as to suggest that as a woman (I have not preceded this with the word 'black', because I have not seen enough of an African man's interaction with a white woman first hand, to assume that she would be treated better!), I should expect and accept that their needs are considerably more important than my own and indeed that their needs were to be tended to! It was O.K. for them to be stingy (e.g not wanting to take me out or go anywhere), whilst proclaiming that it was my duty to do the cooking (even though I was working 5 days a week), while they simply put their feet up! An understanding of a woman's need for emotional fulfilment was woefully lacking & if I was to react negatively to belittlement (e.g. by crying or shouting), it still wouldn't click that i was being treated disrespectfully!

So, it may be that if black women are preferring to go with white men, it's because they believe they will be treated better.

I have attempted to cut a long story short (!) But, I wonder if any other women can identify with this. I have often pondered whether it is simply a culture clash (I've lived in Britain for most of my life), a lack of understanding (perhaps on both our sides) or whether the African born man would treat a white woman better. Is there a sub-conscious perception that white women are superior, and therefore should be treated nicely? Does the 'African man have a superiority complex, specifically in relation to black women?

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Originally Posted By African ProudIt was O.K. for them to be stingy and allow me to do all thecooking while they put  there feet up!

Attraction HAS nothing to do with personality. Women go for money, looks and status and THAT'S it. Besides if you did not like being with them then why didn't you LEAVE. You still slept with them at night.....Right ? and had sex with them at night......RIGHT ?. So there positives must have out weighed their negatives.


Originally Posted By African ProudAn understanding of a woman's need for emotional fulfilment was woefully lacking.

Again,since when has personality been important to women. Women go for money, looks or status (and that's it). Most women are too scared to admit just how shallow they REALLY are. I judge a woman by what she does, not what she says


Originally Posted By African ProudIf I was to react negatively to belittlement (e.g. by crying or shouting) they didn't like it.

Women LOVE drama if they didn't they would leave. Simple as that. They like it because if didn't they wouldn't stay.


Originally Posted By African ProudMaybe black women are going with white men,  because they believe they will be treated better.

BullS**T. I know guys with great personalities who treat women well. Yet they don't get NO-where with women because if a mans niceness or kindness is not reflected in his money, status or looks then women ARE NOT going to spread their legs. Simple as that. Remember women won't GIVE the underdogs a chance ...EVER. They are not wired that way.  

Lets cut the crap here, black women (or any women for that matter) go for white men not because they are the most attractive but because they have all the assets that attract women; money, power and respect. Since in most Western countries black men are seen as the least influential, wealthy and white men are seen as being on the top, women generally seek out white men instead of black men because they believe white men possess the qualities which women subconsciously seek.


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I have often pondered whether the way I was treated was simply a culture clash.
How you treat a woman does not make a difference to her attraction for your. Women decide VERY quickly if they going to F***K you or NOT. If the switch in her head says 'no' then a great personality is not going to swing it. Besides if they were really as bad as you say they were, then you would have left. You CANNOT make a woman f**k you if she does not want to.

I'll say it again women go for 3 things in a man (Money, Status or Looks). A man has to be strong in a LEAST one of these departments for a woman to be interested. Noble qualities like Kindness , honesty and niceness are only secondary wepons. I have NEVER heard a woman "Wow !! He is a really nice, kind, sweet guy....AND THAT REALLY TURNS ME ON !!". 


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Is there a sub-conscious perception that white women are superior, and therefore should be treated nicely?
Lol. Are you crazy ? You NEED to look at your selection process but like most women you prefer to give the whole 'pity act' and blame the man. You to arrogant to think you may have used the wrong selection crietria in the first place.


Originally Posted By African Proud
Does the 'African man have a superiority complex, specifically in relation to black women ?


It's your selection process that you need to look at. Remember attraction does not CARE how nice you are. If women were offering sex to the men who feed the most hungry, housed the most homeless, then women may have a point. But women DON’T. If kindness and niceness were the keys to attacting women then men would be lining up to save the world. 

Finally to me you rant was nothing but a waste of time.

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No black women are not supportive of black man especially in defense of white men's attack.  Like i've said before, you only have to search on these forums to see that, yet you find black men attacking white men and white women in defense of the black woman. They seems too scared to rock the white boat but when it comes to perpetuating the stereotype and cussing the black man, they are not short of worlds. They seem to also would like the black man to share the white man's crimes too. How many times had we have to fend off some female trying to slot us in the same pedophile groove? I have even heard on talk shows these women ask the question. "why do men go out get drunk,come home and beat their wives"? Just today on the Venessa b**ch er...Feltz show, everyone got talking about Harlesden, where some female came on saying "She would not bring up her children there because big men approach kids...er for ..erm.. drug dealings and gun crime" then she added, "in the same way pedophiles approach kids" You almost got the impression from her stuttering that she was trying hard to say for sex, but had to settle instead for something closer to the truth, but not satisfied with that, threw in the pedo bit in the end.

You will have white men going of to far-off lands to commit their vile crime on young black kids, female and male, where are the condemnation from from black women??? No! they would rather ask the question "How come there are less black faces than whites"? God knows what name we would have being called if it were us. Instead black women tell US to keep our penises in our pants, well who need to keep their penis in their pants??

I wrote to the newnation about complain about the disrespect shown to Alicia Keys (A queen in my eyes) by that white boy that used to come on with June Sarpong. I got a reply by a female telling me to shut up because black women have it hard enough without my critisism. About a month later they banned him for using show to try and lure women. Lol!
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BIG L wrote: the soul machine wrote:
im usually someone conscious of whats hapening around him. 2 years a go im canary station neard greenwich. i was in the station reading my paper when this white girl came and sat by me, she smiles at me an every thing wanted me to chat her up.

 i noticed this sister fumming from afar. now note that this woman or girl was with a whiteman or id say he was mixed because i saw them kissing goodbye earlier on before i entered the station. she was all smiles shinning her damn teeth to the world to me manily like look i got one. she was a pretty sister too , very hot.

so there i was reading my paper having small talk with this white girl who was hot by the way. when this sister just came and sat in between both of us. she never moved until the trains came. when i looked at her she screwed face at me and had this i'd kill you look to this white woman it was so fuking hilarious.

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let me get this straight, the black women has a white man, and she is the one fronting on you?? How come??  confused3 Because you were just talking to this white girl, not f**king her at the train station! The darn cheek of that black women, who see no problem being f**ked six ways from Sunday by a white man...if i where you i would said excuse me get the f**k outta the way, before you become parts of the train track!

**Kiss teeth**

Man i thought i was the only one experiencing this sh*t. I used to catch the silver link along with this new very good looking polish girl that worked where I worked. Now get this. Usually I travel alone and if a black girl come on the train they make sure they Kiss their teet and walk to the opposite end of the carriage and sit with their backs turned, every single time. Once i sat next to these black girls with babies that started looking at each other like why the hell i sat there. Then one day this polish girl made it a point to start talking, suddenly we had a black girl sitting adjacent to her one sitting next to me with her ears open and one sitting adjacent to her. Man! i have never being surrounded by so many sisters on the train before.
What really amaze though is how blatent they are with it, it's embarrassing.
I think the Polish girl realized because she then asked me out to the cinama with a look on her face that said lets have a dig at them.

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@ Uncle Sam & Black Arab:

I think most black women would find ANY white man better than SADDO'S like yourselves.

You're both really coming across like whinging, whining, bitter, b**chified, mentally disturbed ASSHOLES.

With black men like you two, it's no wonder some black women develop an aversion to black men and would rather take their chances with white men.

And before any of you start, I don't want to hear any more of your bitter bile so SAVE IT!!

Personally I (and most sane black women) would rather join a convent than give any of you two dickheads the time of day. 

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comfortandjoy wrote: @ Uncle Sam & Black Arab:


Now just STFU!!


 

Now just STFU!!??, Now just STFU!!???

No ta!

Now can we have a proper opinion with out the name calling? lol!

By the way, im talking about women in the UK i dont think the rest of the world have this problem



 



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comfortandjoy wrote: @ Uncle Sam & Black Arab:

I think most black women would find ANY white man better than SADDO'S like yourselves.

You're both really coming across like whinging, whining, bitter, b**chified, mentally disturbed ASSHOLES.

With black men like you two, it's no wonder some black women develop an aversion to black men and would rather take their chances with white men.

And before any of you start, I don't want to hear any more of your bitter bile so SAVE IT!!

Personally I (and most sane black women) would rather join a convent than give any of you two dickheads the time of day. 

Now just STFU!!

 

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African Proud wrote: I have attempted to cut a long story short (!) But, I wonder if any other women can identify with this. I have often pondered whether it is simply a culture clash (I've lived in Britain for most of my life), a lack of understanding (perhaps on both our sides) or whether the African born man would treat a white woman better. Is there a sub-conscious perception that white women are superior, and therefore should be treated nicely? Does the 'African man have a superiority complex, specifically in relation to black women?

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Nice to make your acquaintance, and welcome to the Board.  You posed a very salient question,imo. The answer, as far as I'm concerned is YES, in some situations. I believe that there are some Black men who do have an superiority complex as it relates to Black women. That really shouldn't be a shocker when you consider that Black women are "double zeros", when it comes to most Western societies,(and some not so Western societies, who can hardly separate their own sh*t from the white man's sh*t,anymore). Black people are devalued and women are devalued, so someone who falls into BOTH categories(that would be us Black women), is necessarily going to be coming up very short. BTW, this devaluing seeps into EVERYONE in a society, INCLUDING the people who are in the devalued group/groups. In othe words, (Black women often see themselves and other Black women as being less valuable,as well) Black men are devalued because they are Black in a world that devalues Blackness, but they derive value from being men, in a world that assigns value to being male. SOME of them, take that sh*t and run with it, and want to mistreat/subjugate Black women in the same way white men have subjugated/mistreated Black people. In other words, they can't be the REAL boss like Mr. CHarlie, so they content themselves with being junior/play boss, by playing big shot/running roughshod/"feeling superior" over Black women. Too scared to swim with the sharks, but dont' mind playing the shark "ROLE" among guppies and goldfish,lol.  Think "MIster" in the Color PUrple. He treated Celie like sh*t(like he was the master and she was the slave, damn near), but whenever the white postman would come around, or any other white man, he'd kiss his ass to the high heavens-yes sir, no sir, 3 bags full,sir,lol. A lot of bros got their noses bent out of shape over that character/movie, but that character was based on some REAL, sh*t, particularly as it relates to the post slavery South, in AMerica. As someone with roots in that part of the country, and who currently lives in that part of the country, I CAN SAY THAT with authority.

NOw having said that, there are ALSO some bros who treat white women like sh*t TOO,lol. They are equal opportunity assholes,lol.  Nuff white women have found that out the hard way,after arrogantly thinking that they would be immune to such treatment. NOt understanding that some Black men deal with white women precisely BECAUSE they feel they can more easily mistreat them. Some of these white women even come back,(after they've had enough,come to their senses, and moved on and gotten themselves a proper white man) and express compassion for Black women and what we have to deal with, like Madonna and others(though I find their comments presumptious and condescending more often than not), just making a point here.

Long story short, It's all very complex, with all kinds of f**ked up dynamics and pathologies throughout.



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Lol, you gotta love the google ads at the end of this thread.  Black women--white men interracial dating... lol.

Anyway, G. well said. 

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The Last African wrote: Is it appropriate to bring up the "Robin Thicke factor" now ?
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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 12:35

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Why would a black woman think a white man is secretly better than a black man? For a black man to think that he must have issues of his own or low self-esteem, which is very sad.

I do love black men in every way, in saying that I would not rule out dating a white man, because there ae good looking white men.  If you fall in love you fall in love and the way black men are going on these days you cant blame us...



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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 13:34

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will some one close this damn stupid thread, why has everyone risen to the bait come on  peeps yall know better



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 Posted: Monday June 4th, 2007 17:02