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Posted: Tuesday March 20th, 2007 19:05 |
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1_Princess_Blak wrote: @ Bredder Tukoma
AMEN!!!!  You saved me the bother of typing.
Glad to be of service Empress.
Nikita wrote:
First of all I never brag about what I do. If I get asked I tell and as for my car it is not even mine it is a company car and the first question anyone asks when they meet me in it is what do I do for a living. And I NEVER mention to anyone not even my friends how much I earn let alone on a first date. If I ever get close enough with a guy and I bring them to my home 9 times out of 10 they will ask if I own it I never just drop it into conversation.
Well there lies your problem again. You meet a brother.. after a few dates you bring him home and he asks you " Do you own your home". Isnt that warning signal enough. Is it his business? You need to stop meeting men/boys who are impressed with your house and car because I would never ask such a question. Why? Because I dont give a toss if your house is yours or not. Especially when Im in your house for the first time. Got more pressing things to think about .
Well maybe you are one of the few who dont. Im not talking about blatently running aroung bragging about what you own that would get on anyones nerves. But at the age of 30 a man SHOULD be accomplished he SHOULD own his own house, he SHOULD be well established in his career or have his own business. Not only for your self but especially if you want to start a family you need a soild foundation to build on. You shouldnt define yourself ny these things thats not what Im interseted in but you SHOULD aspire to them.
What with house prices nowadays even most white people cannot afford a house until in their 30s. Not many people can buy a house by themselves in London especially. Im not talking a one bedroom flat either but a 260K+ 3 bed house..which means at the very least you have to be eraning 50-70K per year at the least. I currently work with 4 brothers in their 30s of which three are married. Obviously their women didnt have a hard time. As for career and the rest..yes a man should be established..or going that way..and many are at 30+. Or are all the black men I see on the train in the morning going to the bookies for the day..? All this bollocks about black men need to up their game when there are loads upon loads of black men in the city.. in the suburbs etc going about their daily business. Do they not have careers? Take a walk around Canary Wharf one day and see how many brothers you see. Do they need to up their game? What a load of rubbish.
He spent our entire relationship avoiding meeting my friends and family because he didnt want them to think he wasnt good enough for me.
Then why deal with such a brother with such low self esteem for 6 months for god sake. In fact how do you have a relationship with a girl and not meet her family and friends for 6 months unless its just p***y he was after .. watching a little porno movie.. root you out.. and galong bout his business.
8 million people in the city. Of which 4% of are black. Take a quarter of that being black men.. and you have.. 80,000 black men. And that is a conservative estimate. And you cant find one with a career/ or with those aspirations. Get outa here.
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Posted: Tuesday March 20th, 2007 20:14 |
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Bredda Tukoma, is this a sensitive subject with you? Have you been hurt by a Nikita before?
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Posted: Tuesday March 20th, 2007 21:07 |
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Bredder Tukoma Im going to be mature and end this debate with you right now, you take everything I say out of context, you dont appear to be able to comprehend what Im saying and are unneccessarily abusive. Mentally we are obviously not on the same level. I predict that you will come at me with something rude so all I have to say to you is relax and take a chill pill!
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Posted: Wednesday March 21st, 2007 00:02 |
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Nikita its not you personally I got the grind with but rather what you type. Because its just plain rediculous.. do the maths woman.
So my apologies if I offended you..but Ill stay true to my point and say this to comfortandjoy.
@Comfort
Nope never could get bun by a Nikita..because from a youth from I hear those sentiments it wouldnt last another day. In fact Ive never had money problems with woman as regards how much they earn. But often you hear people say they are on big bucks...and you estimate they are on 40 grand a year. With the cost of living is that big bucks? The look down the nose at certain occupations and socioecomic positions says alot about the mindset of some women today and some man incidentally. So you will find even youths will shun so called blue collar work because its all about image and appearing to be successful. Which is another word I will come round to.
By whose terms is one succesful. Its such a relative and ambiguous term that means so many diffrent things in different contexts. Is the footballer playing for Northampton succesful.. even though a good stone mason may take home more than him a year. Would a Premiership player consider that a succesful career? Does having a degree make you succesful? Is that why so many foreigners are driving cabs with their degrees and PHDs in their back pocket? Does having a house and car and being 6 paychecks away from destitution make you succesful? Would you tell someone you were successful if you had just attained these basics in life? I mean successful is a big word which conjures up grandose images in my head. LOL!! Maybe Im a dreamer..
So how the hell does she meet successful white men? LOL!! Do they take her to their office.. show their quals.. have a 80K car parked up while swinging their car keys? Is it a nice suit?
As I said elsewhere guinea chick seh fi him pickney pretty and johncrow seh fi him pickney sweet like powder puff. You could answer yes or no to any of those scenarios I put above..its all relative. So for someone to presume thats its their "success" that is driving man away really has to be put into context. Or that they are more succesful than most African men in this country is quite presumptious and shows the circles she does or doesnt move in.Because most man I know do not consider having a house and car and qualifications as successful. Or I'm friends with aristocrats?
Nah sis.. sometimes these things have to be shown for the foolishness they are. Because Ill be damned if any family of mine express those sentiments in front of me. Boy or girl child. Say you want someone on your level.. perfectly natural.. but talk about you is too successful for most black man is laughable. Every week almost you got a brother poping up on Dragons Den...yes there are plenty unemployable about..but the prison sytem has normally taken them out of the equation for too long so by 30 they are stuffed. Its not youths she's talking.. its grown men.Its part of the same age old propaganda and its not good to hear from your own people.
So no.. but have known one or two man to take advantage of the situation and demean themselves to sponging off the woman. Which car she buy him and what holiday she paid for..but then again some people like to have someone to pet and then run them for being wotless behind their back. Both deserve each other in my view. Not saying that Nikita scenario is the same by any means but this "succesful" talk is symptomatic of the mindset Watson.
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Posted: Sunday April 1st, 2007 17:49 |
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I think from my experience black women do think white men are better than black men. Especially if your a black man from africa who speaks in a african voice. You may as well be scum of the earth as far as black women are concerned.
As for other black men then I reckon it is also true. Black women ADORE white men. I have NEVER seen a white man get attitude when he steps to a black women (Never seen it). They WORSHIP white men and plus black women will gladly go out with a white man who is below her in terms of looks and income but they would not do the same for a black man.
When black women talk about black men they like, they ONLY talk about the fantasy N****rs like the Morris Chesnut's , Tyson Beckford's, LL Cool J's of this world. Ol Leroy from the area doesn't cut it.
So unless your 0.0001% of the black male population you ain't got much chance.
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Posted: Monday April 2nd, 2007 14:45 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: I think from my experience black women do think white men are better than black men. Especially if your a black man from africa who speaks in a african voice. You may as well be scum of the earth as far as black women are concerned.
As for other black men then I reckon it is also true. Black women ADORE white men. I have NEVER seen a white man get attitude when he steps to a black women (Never seen it). They WORSHIP white men and plus black women will gladly go out with a white man who is below her in terms of looks and income but they would not do the same for a black man.
When black women talk about black men they like, they ONLY talk about the fantasy N****rs like the Morris Chesnut's , Tyson Beckford's, LL Cool J's of this world. Ol Leroy from the area doesn't cut it.
So unless your 0.0001% of the black male population you ain't got much chance.
Bro, you just don't cut it, simple as that. 
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Posted: Monday April 2nd, 2007 16:10 |
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Da Main man....lol....gosh ...lol
Youre right about the African thing, I knew lots of girls who's worse nightmare was an African man....with the accent....some feel insulted when a JJC approaches them........but I think they'll grow out of it.
I remember being on a date with a non-African Black man, who asked me...so you actually like African men....even with the accent?........
As far as worshipping White men, it really depends, I know some women who would gag at the thought of a White romantic interest.
...and stop hating on LL and them.....lol
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 13:00 |
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Black women secretly think that the white man is BETTER? than the BLACK MAN?
I'm sorry and I am not here to put anyone down but that is stupidest bit of info I have ever read. I don't know what women he's been hanging with but in all my years as one I have NEVER run into a black woman to even say say that low shyt.
I find the post to be absurd and filled with so much B.S., I need boots to read it, it looks to me like we have another brotha with issues to blame someone else (black women) for his inadequacies. With the seriousness of issues that have occurred over the years between us and THIS is the best you can come up with?
Also what is this negative crap about Africans with accents? People are people... smart people come with many different types of accents. Geez, I thought black americans had the nit picky issues.
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 13:29 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: I think from my experience black women do think white men are better than black men. Especially if your a black man from africa who speaks in a african voice. You may as well be scum of the earth as far as black women are concerned.
As for other black men then I reckon it is also true. Black women ADORE white men. I have NEVER seen a white man get attitude when he steps to a black women (Never seen it). They WORSHIP white men and plus black women will gladly go out with a white man who is below her in terms of looks and income but they would not do the same for a black man.
When black women talk about black men they like, they ONLY talk about the fantasy N****rs like the Morris Chesnut's , Tyson Beckford's, LL Cool J's of this world. Ol Leroy from the area doesn't cut it.
So unless your 0.0001% of the black male population you ain't got much chance.
You have issues, you know that??
How on earth can you say Black women ADORE White men....the thought of lying next to some pale skin makes me feel sick, and I KNOW I'm not in the minority.
Plus if you, as a Black man, steps to a girl saying "Wha'ppen" or worse "pssst", of course you're going to get attitude.
I don't know where you're from, but in my area there are some fine examples of Black men - I know, I'm married to one!
So, keep your hatred for Black women to yourself and see if Becky is available......
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 14:32 |
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| Girl, go ahead and tell it!
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 15:49 |
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| da_'MAIN'_man...Morris chestnut is a fine man, and wot as is Tyrese and what, plus they have all dated within their race and i think thats one of the main examples black women are attracted to them, as with Denzel. ADORE white men, ARE U CRAZY. NAH MATE!
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 15:54 |
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| da_'MAIN'_man...Morris chestnut is a fine man, and wot as is Tyrese and what, plus they have all dated within their race and i think thats one of the main examples black women are attracted to them, as with Denzel. ADORE white men, ARE U CRAZY. NAH MATE!
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 14:43 |
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I see this thread is trying to break records.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 22:55 |
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| Nah. I just speak from experience and from what I see. I think black women 'deep' down prefer white men or should I say have more respect for white men.
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Posted: Tuesday May 8th, 2007 06:29 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: Nah. I just speak from experience and from what I see. I think black women 'deep' down prefer white men or should I say have more respect for white men.
I don't know the type of Black woman you know, but they seem to be sellouts anyway (straight hair weaves, blue contact lenses etc). Besides, don't you know you're judged by the company you keep?
The day I have more respect for a White man would be the day I disrespect my Dad, and also buy a straight hair wig from Pak Cosmestics......
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 02:00 |
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The thing is most blk women say they respect blk men just as much as whites but I don't see it. They have little respect for blk guys that they DONT KNOW. That is the key here I'm not talking about the blk men in your family or ones you grew up with. I'm talking about the blk men you DONT KNOW.
A black women have little respect for blk men they don't know and have more respect for white men.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 06:52 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: The thing is most blk women say they respect blk men just as much as whites but I don't see it. They have little respect for blk guys that they DONT KNOW. That is the key here I'm not talking about the blk men in your family or ones you grew up with. I'm talking about the blk men you DONT KNOW.
A black women have little respect for blk men they don't know and have more respect for white men.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 12:48 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: The thing is most blk women say they respect blk men just as much as whites but I don't see it. They have little respect for blk guys that they DONT KNOW. That is the key here I'm not talking about the blk men in your family or ones you grew up with. I'm talking about the blk men you DONT KNOW.
A black women have little respect for blk men they don't know and have more respect for white men.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 14:45 |
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i wouldnt say they got no repect for blk men. thing is they are more prone to date whitemen these days. due to the gold digging mentality ingrained in some of them. look at them ads on sites and magazines all you see is blkwomen seeking whiteman. you dont even find that manywhitemen seeking these women. if i ever read anything about blk men being sellouts or coons id personally insult that person. because you can't be hypocrites.
im usually someone conscious of whats hapening around him. 2 years a go im canary station neard greenwich. i was in the station reading my paper when this white girl came and sat by me, she smiles at me an every thing wanted me to chat her up.
i noticed this sister fumming from afar. now note that this woman or girl was with a whiteman or id say he was mixed because i saw them kissing goodbye earlier on before i entered the station. she was all smiles shinning her damn teeth to the world to me manily like look i got one. she was a pretty sister too , very hot.
so there i was reading my paper having small talk with this white girl who was hot by the way. when this sister just came and sat in between both of us. she never moved until the trains came. when i looked at her she screwed face at me and had this i'd kill you look to this white woman it was so fuking hilarious.
but that aside the truth is if i see a blk woman with a white man it dont bother me. as much as when i see a blk man with a white women i dunno why.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 15:15 |
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the soul machine wrote: i wouldnt say they got no repect for blk men. thing is they are more prone to date whitemen these days. due to the gold digging mentality ingrained in some of them. look at them ads on sites and magazines all you see is blkwomen seeking whiteman. you dont even find that manywhitemen seeking these women. if i ever read anything about blk men being sellouts or coons id personally insult that person. because you can't be hypocrites.
im usually someone conscious of whats hapening around him. 2 years a go im canary station neard greenwich. i was in the station reading my paper when this white girl came and sat by me, she smiles at me an every thing wanted me to chat her up.
i noticed this sister fumming from afar. now note that this woman or girl was with a whiteman or id say he was mixed because i saw them kissing goodbye earlier on before i entered the station. she was all smiles shinning her damn teeth to the world to me manily like look i got one. she was a pretty sister too , very hot.
so there i was reading my paper having small talk with this white girl who was hot by the way. when this sister just came and sat in between both of us. she never moved until the trains came. when i looked at her she screwed face at me and had this i'd kill you look to this white woman it was so fuking hilarious.
but that aside the truth is if i see a blk woman with a white man it dont bother me. as much as when i see a blk man with a white women i dunno why.
Maybe it's because secretly, you want to be with a white woman? So you feel jealousy/envy when you see a fellow black man who has one, because it's what you secretly desire.
You feel nothing when you see a blk woman with a white man - because you don't want what the white man has (the black woman) - but you DO want what you see the black man with (the white woman) hence you feeling 'bothered' when you see this kind of couple.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 15:35 |
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i aint jealous iv dated white women before in the past, hell i had a step white father(there you go you lott know one of my secrets lol).
but it has to do with they way blk men show -off. they show off more when they with a white woman. and its pissess me off. i dont wana be with a white woman iv been there done that. sadly i never went to friends wedding because he married a white women, now they divorced he never listen to me when i said it isnt really love.
blk women white men i gotta say there's a probabllity of there being reall love. but white women blk men. its lust.
all in all i aint down with whitys i lived with them for a while i know what im talking about. i was so close to being adopted by a white dude lol on the other hand i had extreme blk panther type families on my real fathers side lol. i been with both worlds typical african life and the western life but luckily i was not raised in the western world or way my step white dad had to adjust to our african way or my mom wasn't having him as a husband. anyway f**k it.
white parents can reluctantly accept their son marrying a blk women but would hate their daughters marrying blk men. i aint into that intericial crap like that anymore i was young then. when i diss them i aint being racist iv lived it and done it i know them inside out lol.
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 02:56 |
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Da_Main_Man wrote: I think from my experience black women do think white men are better than black men. Especially if your a black man from africa who speaks in a african voice. You may as well be scum of the earth as far as black women are concerned.
As for other black men then I reckon it is also true. Black women ADORE white men. I have NEVER seen a white man get attitude when he steps to a black women (Never seen it). They WORSHIP white men and plus black women will gladly go out with a white man who is below her in terms of looks and income but they would not do the same for a black man.
When black women talk about black men they like, they ONLY talk about the fantasy N****rs like the Morris Chesnut's , Tyson Beckford's, LL Cool J's of this world. Ol Leroy from the area doesn't cut it.
So unless your 0.0001% of the black male population you ain't got much chance.
Months ago when this thread first ran, I did not think worth m while to comment. But admittedly, I ahve observed some behaviour, at the work place, in conversation with relatives and friends and from anecdotes and personal experience and regretably in many instances you may be right. Some Black women think that white men are prizes in an of themselves just because of their whiteness, not in spite of it. I suppose the same can be said of certain Black men, but from my observatons it is less pronounced. I don't think its fair to over generalise though.
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 16:30 |
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BP,
Living around a lot of White people( especially Greeks and Jews), I had curiousites about them. I especially wondered what if was like to date a Greek guy because I like their darker features. Like I mentioned on the a previous post, color strikedness runs through my family, if you see the way some of them carry on about lighter skin, you will understand , why I at one shameful point, thought that non-Blacks( White, Asian, Arabs, mixed) were better .I no longer think that way, but when it comes to men, I just cannot say one race of men is better than the other because no two men are a like, it's an individual thing. that is how I see it.
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