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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 21:02 |
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Black_Power wrote: newstart30 wrote: some crap...
Hey maybe you shoul stop trying to play shrink and STFU!
lol like im need to explain myself to some mofo newbie like yourself.
either post something decent or get the fugg outta here...
Wow ........did I hit a nerve then?
I dont play..........
call me alllllllll the names under the sun......no problem.......but you post these things..........expect resposes you may not like...........yes im new.........it would be very boring if the same old people answered these posts....that only shows a closed mind if you wanted the same old same old...you should make things clear from the outset if you only want certain people to respond to your threads and if you want certain responses to pacify you
if you dont want newstart30 answering them well STATE IT AT THE BEGINNING
NO BIG DEAL.................... IM A GROWN AZZ BLACK WOMAN AND CAN HANDLE REJECTION
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BP I am extremely supportive of black men...I am not anti-black men
I am very sure without knowing the other female forum members personally that the majority of them are supportive of black men.....and yes... some women talk about men badly just as the reverse happens too....but some times we have to move on from the blame game within our people and look at things differently
Whatever I post in BNV BP, I am responsible for and accountable for it. I own it and stand by it......I dont start calling names and getting the huff when someone posts stuff I dont necesarrily take on as my opinion. that is simply not my style
its not to say this form denigration isnt allowed on bnv....I see that here all the time....but we do need think about our output into the forum community.....its very very telling of our own individual personalities....
I am no academic...I dont come from way up high....Im as dyslexic as hell so I dont have time for long words niether.... but I feel its time we thought about moving on in life from the anti black men/women stuff
(I daresay some things have been relevant to discuss without a shadow of a doubt, but we can get stuck in that process forever)
we need seek to promote our beauty, courage,strength, and use the negative we have in ourselves and try and change them positevely, (not all of the negatives as that is totally impossible)
having cheap digs at each other acheives.......I leave you to think about it
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 21:49 |
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Judge J wrote: My parents kinda installed that ethos into me and my brothers as well. She would always talk about how its wrong to marry white women, in fact she has cussed many of her African friends who have done so.
One of my mums friends older brothers from Zimbabawe who married an Irish lady, immediatly started to cut himself away from his roots as soon as he got with her. My mum basically said when black men get with white girls they end up assimulating into their culture, yet they don't do the same in return. For example when this guys mother was in hospital this man only went to visit her once, and he was her oldest son. The Irish wife made no effort to visit her. Even when the father died and his body had to be taken bck to Zimbabwe he didn't even go back with the rest of the family because of his commitments to this white b**ch.
To be honest my mum didn't need to instal it into me as i have never really felt any connection with white girls. Me personally I just don't see the fascination.
The black girls I know who date white guys do so not really due to preference but due to their upbringing. I rememebr in Uni I met black girls who had grown up in 90% white areas, therefore thats all they knew.
Not necessarily Judge J...I grew up in a predominatly white area (although i had black peers and was always tought my history) yes, there where white males there, but nothing for me made me lust over no white man in any kind of way that i would go with then...to m that is the same as a black male with a white female. Im sure somewhere, somehow they have sen a black female
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 21:51 |
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I have a friend from High School who is a Reseacher and just started teaching as an Associate professor at Duke University one of the Premier and Elite Universities in the US of A among a few. He told me this story. Across Town is UNC-Chapel Hill (University of North Carolina) which is an arch rival and nemesis of Duke University especially when it comes to sports. Those who watch college sports know what I am talking about because their rivalry is legendary and more intense then rivalries in the NBA. Back in the early 1970s UNC had about two black players during the era of the civil rights movement and Duke had no black players.
Before one of their legendary Basketball games, the coach of the Duke Mens basketball team was asked "when will Duke start including black players in their team as part of the integration policy". The Duke Coach replied that " we don't need black players to win games". That comment pissed off one of the UNC black players who kept silent and never said a word or thing but decided he will do something about it. During the game, the two (2) UNC Black Players literally and singlehandedly murderd the Duke Basketball team. Duke suffered one of the worst defeats in its history in the hands of the black players. The next Year Duke University went out and recruited almost four (4) black players. Now, if we as black people apply the same zeal and intensity to Academia as we have shown in Sports and Music then we can open doors for others to follow through and most of the Researchers in Colleges and the Corporate World would be Black. Wether in Europe or America, sport teams initially did not want us, but now they want us because we had very excellent Black players, now they accept us into their teams and you only look at a team like Arsenal and see that seven (7)-eigth (8) of the players are Africans.
Look at the French National Football team and nine (9) of the players out of eleven (11) players on the field representting France that I counted were straight out of Africa. That is 82 % of the players representing France are Africans. Do the French really want us to represent them? The answer of-course is No, but they had no choice but to choose the Africans, that is if they wanted to win. Asians particularly in America proved themselves through hard work and they have shown a consistent record and as a result they have no difficulty working or finding work in whiteys World. Continental Africans particularly those fresh from Africa in America are blazing the same trail.
Serena and Venus Williams are not really wanted in the Tennis World but they "Gate Crushed" through the door and the competition; kicking down and bulldozing every body standing in their way like a thirty (30) tonne Elephant bearing down on defenseless humans and eventually they gained respect. If more black people could follow the William Sisters and uphold the same consistency of crushing the competition, then sooner or later Tennis would be a black sport. Lets take the same approach and apply it to our daily lives and if all of us; or the majority of Black people do it in sequence and consistently then we can open new doors and bulldoze through some or all obstacles.Last edited on Saturday December 30th, 2006 00:06 by Vubundada_Kandaba
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 21:52 |
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Judge J wrote: My parents kinda installed that ethos into me and my brothers as well. She would always talk about how its wrong to marry white women, in fact she has cussed many of her African friends who have done so.
One of my mums friends older brothers from Zimbabawe who married an Irish lady, immediatly started to cut himself away from his roots as soon as he got with her. My mum basically said when black men get with white girls they end up assimulating into their culture, yet they don't do the same in return. For example when this guys mother was in hospital this man only went to visit her once, and he was her oldest son. The Irish wife made no effort to visit her. Even when the father died and his body had to be taken bck to Zimbabwe he didn't even go back with the rest of the family because of his commitments to this white b**ch.
To be honest my mum didn't need to instal it into me as i have never really felt any connection with white girls. Me personally I just don't see the fascination.
The black girls I know who date white guys do so not really due to preference but due to their upbringing. I rememebr in Uni I met black girls who had grown up in 90% white areas, therefore thats all they knew.
Not necessarily Judge J...I grew up in a predominatly white area (although i had black peers and was always tought my history) yes, there where white males there, but nothing for me made me lust over no white man in any kind of way that i would go with then...to m that is the same as a black male with a white female. Im sure somewhere, somehow they have sen a black female
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 21:53 |
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Bredder Tukoma wrote: Fred
I hear you on the nice gal and their choice of man when youths..man my heart has done plenty pining over some good courteous girls who went and breed for the local bad man..and when you check it the same brother either coke/crack out or talking about he's doing a electrcian course at 30+. But then in retrospect my bredrens will say "well she couldnt of been that good because look what she pick up with etc.."
Your people would be correct. At some level, no matter how large or small, who a woman allows in between her legs, let alone in her heart, speaks to her character. Whitney Houston being a prime example of this, in my opinion. Truthfully, some of us as men get caught up in that 'appearance is everything' mode when appraising the class of a woman, like some of our sisters do to working class brothers who don't have the 'successful uniform,' if you will. We observe the broad whom speaks well, dresses in a carefully constructed manner at all times, and appears high maintenance and 'we' assume she has at the very least an ounce of class. But when you get to know her in-depth, you realize you're dealing with a chickenhead of the lowest order. A lot of these women have more in common with these worthless cats than we acknowledge. Another thing at play here is that nurturing aspect that most females naturally bring to the table works against them when seeking quality mates at times: they're attracted to the reclamation projects a little too much, without realizing many of these cats can't be saved and don't want to be saved in the first place. But simply being in a relationship where they feel needed, even if it's parasitic in nature; strokes their egos. Yes, men are attracted to 'weaker' women as well, but the difference is: that doesn't upset the natural order in relationships. On the other hand, when a man is the weaker of the parties in the relationship...................well, that speaks for itself, look where we are today.
In your day and mine yes. However things have changed. Because although you are right that once a whitey lover from young rarely do they come back or switch to black women .. disturbingly alot of brother with black children or relationships in the past who followed the norm as youths and young men are now picking up with white women or Asians. Especially the converted muslim brothers back in the day. 90% of the time they marry Asian women- who's families cut them off. Alot of brothers do not see the implications of putting a white or Asian women in front of their children and are indifferent about it. The women who do it are off their heads.
I had an argument with an old time bredren who was dealing with a white girl and in conversation I said its not productive for us as a whole blah blah... Same brother actually called me racist..how my father wouldnt of given me that advice- when its exactly the advice and warning I was given as a youth. This is a man who had only dealt with black women. But things are changing and the old taboo of white girls-is alot more acceptable among the under 25 bracket I would say...when I see 14/15 year old's on street and the girls are almost exclusively white in some circles you have to wonder. Truth to tell back in the day white girls were seen as sex objects that you would do things with you wouldnt entertain with a black girl. Things change. Now they walking hand in hand proud.
Many of our people don't acknowledge race in a comprehensive way anymore, they like to deal with fluff. They believe teaching their kids about the ills of intermarrying is counterproductive to 'making it' in this society and you can't convince them otherwise. Try dating a sister with children and you come out of your mouth with what you said to your manz to her children; she'll let you know "that's not how I raise my kids to believe." Which is certainly her prerogative, but contradicts much of what we hear from our sisters on the matter. You being of a certain mind-set and strong principles already know that nothing will come of your union off that encounter alone. Take a guess how her children will end up? The problem lies in what Fred spoke to earlier about some men being the passive party in their relationships with their wives/women: where they should speak their minds and not give a damn about hurt feelings or appearing racist(laughable) some of these cats let their other halves opinions rule the day. That's why we're seeing more two parent households produce weak young men these days as well. Fathers aren't fathering these days, and they mostly have themselves to blame for allowing foreign influences to dictate how they run things in their own homes.
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Gamahogny said:
'BTW, there is a generational component to this. Observing certain truths about some younger men of this generation is not an indictment of men of another generation. It's BECAUSE of the character/work ethic of the Black men of our father's/grandfather's generation that makes a lot of the antics of some younger bros, so unacceptable and inexcusable, for a lot of women'.
I think I have inadvertantly answered this in part of an earlier response. This is why this wotless black man argument is extremely weak, when we say exactly who are these women talking about? It has to be targetted at all black men because to specifiy and actually assist in moving forward takes the atttention right back to black women or too many of them.
It goes right back to the doorstep of many women in terms of how they excercise their power, and only their power is of importance in matters of mate selection. Unless someone wants to insult us and contary to social fact and observations that women tend to be the key decision makers in this area in all of human societies. Unless some black women want to argue when it comes to them everybody but them have the ultimate power.
The group of men you are talking about are the mid 80s hip hop generation and it would be wrong to stereotype every male of that generation as wotless, as a whole heap of young men and women are not not that you are saying all of them are, but just saying. So are these young men the CAUSE or the VICTIMS?
This group of young men are more likely to be from single parent families than their predecessors, have mothers who are more committed to very temporary relationships with men, unlike their African-Caribbean mothers who were predominantly marrried. More likely to live in council or social housing, unlike their mothers, less likely to comply with their people's cultural norms in how they choose partners, even consult with their parents or mothers in particular and probably know least about men than previous generations.
As MMD said there are also boys being produced in two parent families who come out with the same lack of ambition or weak value system, but from my experience which I said to him and observation, as I have two families like that in my extended family, this is where the woman is far more dominant than the man and he concedes his power to them.
In both cases these women are university educated and the men are self employed blue collar men with their own businesses. So these women have an inverted snobbery or arrogance eg 'what do you know about anything' and will express this in full view of other people. I blame the men, but the problem is those dyanamics are already set and to change it will lead to serious conflict in the marriages which will affect children, but the men express their power in ways which the women can little about...
I know many sisters with sons they can do little with because of the choices they made, because these women do not care about the future of their own child never mind black people or what type of man she is producing for your daughter or any other black woman for that matter. Back in the day my parents, like many were concerned about the quality of husband or wife or man or woman they produced because people would judge them negatively if they produce people below the accepeted standard.
The generation of women we are talking about are the very said ones who were in the most conflict or war with the values of their parents. For example. I know plenty of sisters whose fathers were examplars of African-Caribbean men of their culture and well respected high status men. My father in law is a very respected and strong and no nonsense man, half his daughters worship the ground he walks on. The other half want a man compteley the opposite and that is what they got, weak arse males who could be pushed around or manipulated at will. Guess who are the single parents with problem kids?
...Guess whose fathers have the weakest inputs in the way their children are raised or their futures and fatherhood is simply about money or when things are just too late to do any thing about ?...Oh they tend to blame the fathers when sh*t goes wrong even when it is clearly their fault.
The only thing these males have in common with these women's father's is they are all good looking, but it goes no further. They want their father's money and resources when sh*t breaks out but do not want their advise.
Let me give you an illustration. I have a social uncle on my mother's side from her village and childhood friend. He is one of the most impressive men I have ever met. Largely self educated, but one of the hardest and focused men I have ever met, with a natural sense of business and money. By the time he and his wife retired you should see their livestyle and how much money and property that man had aquired. Really nice man who love to spend money on us and take us about back home, but he is strict and don't f**k when he talks.
You should have seen the male his daughter went and get pregnant for, and this is despite her mother a wonderful woman and my mother's key confidant educated her about sex and contraception etc. Worse still this sister is like her mother sweet and lovely, but a warrior and will go toe to toe with most men and has a mouth the size of Blackwall Tunnell and can cuss. She gets pregnant and my man is simply not up to it, because quite frankly that was probably the last thing on his mind. Argument starts my girl wants to fight the man and actually did and they were rolling on the floor.
Now she is lucky it is some wimpy boy she is f**king with. Because as courageous as her mother is, she would not f**k with her husband in that way no how no way. When the father heard about this sh*t and how the brother really not only did not want to know, but basically was not up to the demands. This is a sweetboy we are talking about . Girl's father stepped in and if it was not for my father he would have gone to prison. My old man had to show him he brought up his girls right and if they are in England now and think they know better so be it. But don't take prison for some fool girl who does not want to take wise counsel.
Tens years later when everybody thinks my girl has gained some sense and is in her 30s guess what she meets another sweet boy who looked OK to me in his conduct and he had another young child down the road. I phoned my social cousin about 7 months later to make sure her and the kids are cool and she told me guess what cuz....I am pregnant...When I phoned about 4 months later and ask for everyone, my girl says to me oh me and so and so are not together anymore.
Read between the lines because I have seen this sh*t so often and got another girlfriend only two days ago miscarriage for a guy she only met four months ago and a big arse woman at that. When these women reach their 30s and already have one child, they are desperate for a brother or sister for their existing kid and quite frankly act no different than when they decided to get pregnant the first time.
So what type of young boys are we going to produce in that type of situation? When the quality of the father or his potential to be a father other than how pretty the baby is going to be, and is basically about her wanting his sperm and genetic characteristics, has nothing to do with these women's decisions whether they are 20 years old or in their early to mid 30s.
Who do we hold responsible for this? Who do we hold responsible for the socialisation of many of these young men who do not have two parental imputs and may only have half an input from women given work, or other children to look after or their interest in the new men in their lives...?
Are these young men and women too often the CAUSE or the VICTIMS of their parents choices. The irony is this I have sat in rooms with women who are talking look how wotless the son or another single parent is, often their own peer group, and they are blind or refuse out of shame to see they have the same thing right in front of them. But as my wife always says, well if these kids have not been in trouble with the police or have several children out there and they are protected in their mother's homes from life they can't be wotless can they?
This is not a ping pong match about passing blame to the otherside eg our women. This is about appropriate responsibility and what we have a right to expect.
Let me conclude by comparing something my old mum told my sister in my pressence long time ago, with some famous western anthropologists and sociologists. She said a woman if she is wise has to know her power, just like a wise man. She said no man will ever win an argument between his wife, where his children are concerned, unless she is an outright whore on the road and selling and advertising her sh*t in front of her children.
By same token, no woman will ever win a sexual war with a man over the amount of partners they have access to and the consequences of taking up those opportunities. She said women no matter how hot or desirable they may be, can only lose socially, culturally and personally in terms of emotions/psychologically if they play those games, because men and women are built different and while men can sex as many women as they can or want or are available, it does not affect them in the same way as women, who are generally looking for other things as well as sex.
So basically in unstable situations women have far more to lose and will always lose. So this contradicts MB's comments that simply because of basic numbers men have women at a disadvantage. Nope older and wiser women will know men always had that advantge. Don't believe me well study patterns of marriage in Africa. Despite polygamy being in decline amongst educated men and women. This is largely due to economics and men as well as women wanting to be free of all the obligations and expectations that traditional marriage customs put on them.
In fact as one sister academic from the continent said, most West African married men have no concept that monogamy means no access to other women. They see it as their right and there is no major descrepency in the ratio of males to females in West Africa. Men have informal wives, official mistresses and all sorts. This does not mean only men engage in these thing by far. But overwhealming it is predominantly men. So men benefit and have their way or fun or filll regardless of the system. In fact the decline in polygamy gives men even more room to manouvre and have more women as they like as long as they have money or resources or whatever it takes to keep these women happy.
Western social scientists in the 19th century overwhealmingly believed that the institution of marriage served the needs of males primarily in terms of power and a lot of other things eg regulating the production of children, reduce conflict and war amongst men around children and women etc.
Engles, Karl Marx's bredrin took a completely different approach and said these guys were incorrect or only partly correct. He said despite all the conflict and social drama which would ensue if there was no institution of marriage. But men regardless could benefit from that situation. The only section of society who could never benefit in an all out sexual or other war situation were women. Men would pick them off like flies.
Don't believe me. Read that ugly thread by BP about what women want or something like that. But it does raise some truths which I have said here a million times before. Certain men can cut through groups of women like they were soft butter, because jungle culture and livestyles exposes women far more than it does men. Pluse women pay a higher cost eg left with the burden of children etc.
Furthermore women tend to go for particular male resources as a point of attraction from childhood into adulthood. So a small number of men can f**k army of women until they are tired. And the women will still rush these guys. Women are as much culturally programmed to be attracted to particular males as males are in their attraction to particular groups of females.
So Engles was on the money, that marriage and social and cultural contracts no matter how imperfect protected women economically, socially in terms of rights and responsibilities and obligations etc and stability in regulating sexual behaviour, their own and that of other women. It also gave them powerful leaverage over men or a far more effective one than any others outside marriage, because the rules of the game is clear and publicly known. This has benefits for children in understanding their rights responsibilities and duties as well as making it crystal clear what they as children have a right to expect.
So my old mum may have never heard of Marx or Engles or any famous anthropologist and why would she?. She came for an African basd culture which the white man tried to destroy, but could not eliminate in terms of what is in our mind and how we think and what wise people know and don't have to think twice about.
Don't blame to youth for the folly of their superiors and elders and mothers in particular. They had the cultural upbrining too often but just think this western jungle culture which is indivisible with poverty economic and otherwise, which they see gives them more independence and benefits without having to take the social costs in terms of its impact on their status and live chances of their children.
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To answer the original question truthfully, as I see it.....some Black women do think that Whitemen are better than a Black man. Its not just because of growing up around White guys and being pushed into a corner to date White. No, some women dont like, respect or have any time for Black men. They have their reasons, but the Whiteman is often seen as everything in a man , a Black man could never be, in their eyes.
I know many, if not most Black women I have come across are extremely loyal to Black men, (even if they dont respect them) but I have met many who worship the ground a White man walks on, and would see dating a Black man as a step down. They see Black men as a deadweight and just tolerate them for the most part.
If not for the stigma that would go along with dating a Whiteman, many Black women would date them if they could still be seen as a "sista" by all. Some of the things I've heard some Black women say, clearly shows their utter disgust towards Black men.
Luckily its been the minority.
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Chi. Help me here because my memory is faulty. You are in the US? So are you talking about there or also including other places from your knowledge in your summation?
Helps sometimes to know these things..
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Posted: Tuesday January 2nd, 2007 00:59 |
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The Mighty Mos Def wrote: Bredder Tukoma wrote: Fred
I hear you on the nice gal and their choice of man when youths..man my heart has done plenty pining over some good courteous girls who went and breed for the local bad man..and when you check it the same brother either coke/crack out or talking about he's doing a electrcian course at 30+. But then in retrospect my bredrens will say "well she couldnt of been that good because look what she pick up with etc.."
Your people would be correct. At some level, no matter how large or small, who a woman allows in between her legs, let alone in her heart, speaks to her character. Whitney Houston being a prime example of this, in my opinion. Truthfully, some of us as men get caught up in that 'appearance is everything' mode when appraising the class of a woman, like some of our sisters do to working class brothers who don't have the 'successful uniform,' if you will. We observe the broad whom speaks well, dresses in a carefully constructed manner at all times, and appears high maintenance and 'we' assume she has at the very least an ounce of class. But when you get to know her in-depth, you realize you're dealing with a chickenhead of the lowest order. A lot of these women have more in common with these worthless cats than we acknowledge. Another thing at play here is that nurturing aspect that most females naturally bring to the table works against them when seeking quality mates at times: they're attracted to the reclamation projects a little too much, without realizing many of these cats can't be saved and don't want to be saved in the first place. I would agree here. But I would still say its a case of bad choice and expectations. Me and you would not expect to deal with a women who you had to fundementally change in mentallity. Also the reclamation projects as you call them are what drives some women on. But lets not forget there is an unhealthy proportion of these women that are attracted pricesley because these brothers are far from the normal. Excitement and the unpredicatable makes most women break out in goose bumps of passion especially those who havent been around the block to know any different.
Many of our people don't acknowledge race in a comprehensive way anymore, they like to deal with fluff. They believe teaching their kids about the ills of intermarrying is counterproductive to 'making it' in this society and you can't convince them otherwise. Try dating a sister with children and you come out of your mouth with what you said to your manz to her children; she'll let you know "that's not how I raise my kids to believe." So true bro and real life discussions have taught me that most women are ambivalent at best to interacial dating of their children/ and increasing more brothers too. Which is certainly her prerogative, but contradicts much of what we hear from our sisters on the matter. You being of a certain mind-set and strong principles already know that nothing will come of your union off that encounter alone. Take a guess how her children will end up? The problem lies in what Fred spoke to earlier about some men being the passive party in their relationships with their wives/women: where they should speak their minds and not give a damn about hurt feelings or appearing racist(laughable) some of these cats let their other halves opinions rule the day. That's why we're seeing more two parent households produce weak young men these days as well. Fathers aren't fathering these days, and they mostly have themselves to blame for allowing foreign influences to dictate how they run things in their own homes.
I think alot of it goes back to the issue of lack of cultural expectations on certain things. My parents generation were quite clear on these things and came from a place where it was the expected norm... and no amount of modern utopian thinking was going to change their mind. But alot of us blacks in the UK/ of the first and 2nd generation have bought into this theory of never ending western progress.. and that the newer an idea or thinking is/ the more superior it is to the old way of doing things. Hence children now are the parents friend and the line of authority is blurred. The "as long as it makes them happy" mentality..as if immediate wants and desires are the most important criteria for building a family...which also extends to the parents thinking.. so when my cousin in law/ want to put white man in front of her children.. the rationale is "no one can tell ME who I date".. showing that the emphasis is on her and not on the longer term effect of the family unit.
The fact that some fathers are allowing this sh*t and weak heart mentallity to go on shows that black men have also bought into the myth. Its as much of a case that these men also belive the other halves view and buy into this progressive mentality bollocks. In the case of my friend religion also plays a part..i.e. "we are the world mentallity".
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Posted: Tuesday January 2nd, 2007 10:01 |
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chi wrote: but I have met many who worship the ground a White man walks on, and would see dating a Black man as a step down...
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The world is big enough for people like that to exist. Statistically there are self haters from every heritage on earth. We don't need to pretend like this is only a black issue.
Let them get on with it, its their life after all, we should stop trying to preach all the time...
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 15:40 |
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FredB wrote: Chi. Help me here because my memory is faulty. You are in the US? So are you talking about there or also including other places from your knowledge in your summation?
Helps sometimes to know these things..
I'm in the UK, but spend alot of time in the US, I have met Black Americans, Black British and Black Africans who are like that, as well as those who are total opposite.
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 15:43 |
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stick-upKid wrote: chi wrote: but I have met many who worship the ground a White man walks on, and would see dating a Black man as a step down...
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The world is big enough for people like that to exist. Statistically there are self haters from every heritage on earth. We don't need to pretend like this is only a black issue.
Let them get on with it, its their life after all, we should stop trying to preach all the time...
I'm not preaching, neither am I saying its just Black people, but the title of the thread was specifically asking about us Black people, I guess since this is a Black website. I assume every race has individuals like that, but obviously because I dont belong to any of those communities and have never really witnessed them doing it, I can only presume that they do.
It is their life.......noone said it wasn't, what I'm giving is my opinion based on my experience.....thats what the thread asked for.
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 16:26 |
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Chi, you like white men?
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 16:59 |
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DSP wrote: Chi, you like white men?
....lol DSP is that what you heard from what I wrote?........I said I have seen one or two (literally) White men who I think are attractive (on mos def thread)..........and you hear me saying I like White men? No, I've just seen a few I think are cute thats all.
I love Black men, especially Africans, you know that already DSP......lol
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Posted: Thursday January 4th, 2007 20:09 |
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Some do, mainly the single, bitter and twisted ones.
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Posted: Friday January 5th, 2007 09:18 |
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I have said before, I say it again
Posted: Sunday October 1st, 2006 09:45
document.write('TheDogon wrote: I don't get it. Perhaps one of you can explain it to me. Did some "Black" women make fun of you? Did they turn you down? What is it? What did they do? Who did it to you? How can we help you to get over it?
Because one thing is for damn sure. Continuing to make threads about the bad things "Black" women do, is not going to help you. And it won't do a thing for anyone here.
I WISH TO ADD HERE!!
PERPERTRATORS SELDOM OWN UP TO THIER RESPONSIBILITY FOR STIRRING THINGS UP
ACCOUNTABILITY AND OWNERSHIP OF THIER ACTIONS SCORES AT NIL.......ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT!!!!
PERHAPS IN THE RANTS AND RAVES WE HAVE MISSED SOMETHING OF THOSE PARTICULAR PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO DENIGRATE
PERHAPS THEY DONT FEEL LISTENED TO AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET ATTENTION IS TO ACT OUT AND STIR THINGS UP.
THIS IS A CHILDS WAY OF BEHAVING AND I DO WONDER WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE PERPERTATOR BACK IN THE DAY
WELL HERES YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK UP AND TELL US YOUR SIDE OF THINGS
WE ARE LISTENING
OR ELSE ( I KNOW I WILL) SIMPLY PUT YOUR POSTS ON IGNORE!!!
CAUSE THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH THAT OTHER CARING PEOPLE CAN DO FOR YOU
RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND OWNERSHIP
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