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Posted: Saturday June 10th, 2006 19:06 |
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He is Black
He is French
He owns a sportswear company
He's gonna be BIG
Fulham Football Club will sport his clothes as official uniform.
His company is called ....Airness
Nike has competition
http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901060612-1200726,00.html
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Posted: Saturday June 10th, 2006 22:55 |
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| Perhaps our athletes can help him out by promoting his brand. We've got enough of them and plenty of our people throw money into white owned brands like Nike. This may be our chance to help out one of our own. Now lets hope that his company will do likewise and give back to our communities.
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Posted: Sunday June 11th, 2006 22:36 |
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very nice
had a look on ebay france. alright
i can see why he is successful
stiff comp outside france tho
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 08:27 |
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Nice garms... I'd be happier rocking these instead of Nike or Addidas. Consider me sold 
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 12:31 |
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| I've had a look at some of his stuff on google. Very nice, I hope to see some of these things in Canada, I could use some new runners and some snazy gym clothes.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 12:31 |
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I hate to sound negative about this, but I am going to research this brother a bit deeper. I have come to realize that Whites often only allow certain Africans/Blacks to gain real power when they know they can control them or have the ultimate benefit. There are many African/Black high government officials and corporate executives around the world, but most of them that I have studied have turned out to be either Uncle Tom coconuts or plain sellouts pandering to White interests.
Anyhow, I hope that isn't the case so I can support this brother.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 12:37 |
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This is a problem we have. Holding ourselves to stupidly higher standards than we hold others. Do you research and question NIKE and VERSACE before wearing them? Or do you just do it? Yet when it comes to something with another black involved we get all narrow eyed and sceptical... wanna check em out to make sure they're ok... that's all bollocks to me.
In the absence of a definitive pro-black sporting company and in a market saturated by white owned monopolies I am VERY happy to seek out the black owned and fronted one unquestioningly. Nothing to base your unfounded scepticism on either... do we have such low confidence we can't simply believe in a good thing anymore?
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 12:39 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: I hate to sound negative about this, but I am going to research this brother a bit deeper. I have come to realize that Whites often only allow certain Africans/Blacks to gain real power when they know they can control them or have the ultimate benefit. There are many African/Black high government officials and corporate executives around the world, but most of them that I have studied have turned out to be either Uncle Tom coconuts or plain sellouts pandering to White interests.
Anyhow, I hope that isn't the case so I can support this brother.
That is so true. Alright do the research and come back and report to base. I really hope that he's a gem though, those clothes look too good to pass off.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 13:22 |
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| sorry but he is originally from africa.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 13:34 |
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DrunkMonkey wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti
This is a problem we have. Holding ourselves to stupidly higher standards than we hold others. Do you research and question NIKE and VERSACE before wearing them? Or do you just do it? Yet when it comes to something with another black involved we get all narrow eyed and sceptical... wanna check em out to make sure they're ok... that's all bollocks to me.
In the absence of a definitive pro-black sporting company and in a market saturated by white owned monopolies I am VERY happy to seek out the black owned and fronted one unquestioningly. Nothing to base your unfounded scepticism on either... do we have such low confidence we can't simply believe in a good thing anymore?
But DM, what if his company is in some way deterimental to black people? Let's say that he owns a bunch of sweat shops in Africa and is practically making slaves out of his own people? I'm not saying that's what he is doing, I really hope not, but if this is so then would you still support him?
And frankly I'm looking forward to throwing money into his sporting company so only something that bad is going to make me turn away. I'm not going to get all rah, rah over some minor infraction.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 13:42 |
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DrunkMonkey wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti
This is a problem we have. Holding ourselves to stupidly higher standards than we hold others. Do you research and question NIKE and VERSACE before wearing them? Or do you just do it? Yet when it comes to something with another black involved we get all narrow eyed and sceptical... wanna check em out to make sure they're ok... that's all bollocks to me.
In the absence of a definitive pro-black sporting company and in a market saturated by white owned monopolies I am VERY happy to seek out the black owned and fronted one unquestioningly. Nothing to base your unfounded scepticism on either... do we have such low confidence we can't simply believe in a good thing anymore?
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 13:46 |
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DrunkMonkey wrote: Shemsi en Tehuti
This is a problem we have. Holding ourselves to stupidly higher standards than we hold others. Do you research and question NIKE and VERSACE before wearing them? Or do you just do it? Yet when it comes to something with another black involved we get all narrow eyed and sceptical... wanna check em out to make sure they're ok... that's all bollocks to me.
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Hypothetically speaking, if you were an American, would you vote for Condileeza Rice if she ran for president just because she's an African-American woman? I certainly wouldn't because she's a Thomasina coconut fighting for Whitey.
As for name brands you mentioned, you would probably be surprised if you met me in person. I do not wear name brand clothes. I pick out the nice looking clothes at the discount stores, and I never wear Nike or any of that stuff. If the clothes are not out of a discount store, then they are from an African/Black shop or establishment. Oh yeah, and some of my shirts I make with my own designs (it is really inexpensive). I do not give these corporations and big names my money.
DrunkMonkey wrote: In the absence of a definitive pro-black sporting company and in a market saturated by white owned monopolies I am VERY happy to seek out the black owned and fronted one unquestioningly. Nothing to base your unfounded scepticism on either... do we have such low confidence we can't simply believe in a good thing anymore?
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It is not about having low confidence in our people, it is more about being a realist about the dynamics of the Capitalist global market and who runs it. Do you think it is a coincidence that Whites will not let Blacks supply any raw materials to industries, whether it is food from farming, to natural resources like copper. If they do, then there is some corporation propped up with puppet strings. In most instances that I have seen Africans actually control raw materials, the U.S. Government, Britain, France, or all of them blocks trade or makes it illegal to use their products. This happens over and over again with African, Carribean, and American businesses where Africans try to own the supply. We are typically only allowed to thrive in markets that builds absolutely no capital for African communities. Unless this brother owns the land (in an African community) where the materials are coming from and not purchasing cheap labor from Sri Lanka, Thailand, or some other remote region, then the only ones to benefit are corporations (Whites) and foreign people.
I am just not the type to give my money to someone simply because they are Black.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 17:57 |
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But DM, what if his company is in some way deterimental to black people? Let's say that he owns a bunch of sweat shops in Africa and is practically making slaves out of his own people? I'm not saying that's what he is doing, I really hope not, but if this is so then would you still support him?
You don't ask these questions of white labels or companies but a black one must be investigated. Why would there even be such a negative assumption in the first place? Look, NIKE are known and famous for having unfair working conditions and sweatshops yet black buy out their stock religiously. Now you're telling me we should investigate first a black owned company with no blots on their name? I'm not having that logic at all.
As for name brands you mentioned, you would probably be surprised if you met me in person. I do not wear name brand clothes.
If you say it, I believe it. But that doesn't apply to everyone. People don't investigate Nestle and Nike or BP yet rinse out their products no problem. Black dude does the same yet without marks against him... we wanna be funny and investigate. Bollocks!
I am just not the type to give my money to someone simply because they are Black
When the alternative is buying WHITE simply because everybody else does... I AM!
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 20:02 |
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DrunkMonkey wrote: I am just not the type to give my money to someone simply because they are Black
When the alternative is buying WHITE simply because everybody else does... I AM!
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I am with you there. If there is no other Black alternative, then I will by Black.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 20:18 |
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Well I am happy for the brother but when he becomes a real threat to Nike, I am sure they are going to sue him for using Airness which will tie him up in court at least over here. I am suprised Puma has not come after him for using a similar logo LOL
I have to give it to the brother for salemanship and being a biliionaire, keep on, keepin' on........
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 20:39 |
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safetyblitz wrote: Well I am happy for the brother but when he becomes a real threat to Nike, I am sure they are going to sue him for using Airness which will tie him up in court at least over here. I am suprised Puma has not come after him for using a similar logo LOL
I have to give it to the brother for salemanship and being a biliionaire, keep on, keepin' on........
I don't know if Nike would have a prayer in winning that suit. There's a loop hole in the copyright law that says that the words can be similar but not exactly the same. Nike may have rights to Nike Air, but they can't prevent him from using Airness.
And as for Puma, it can be argued that their logo is that of a Puma not a Panther. Two different types of animals so nothing a good lawyer can't knock out of the courts.
But that's not the say that they won't try to sue him, especially if he becomes a serious threat.
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 21:00 |
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I see what you are saying but being tied up in courts sometimes is just as damaging as losing a case in the money and energy to fight it.
For instance, Airness here is linked to who? Michael Jordan known as his Airness, so a shoe on the street named Airness would easily be mistaken for Jordan's shoes. Nike ain't haiving that because people love their $200 shoes. The court battle alone
would link Airness as knockoffs in the consumers mind which to them is the same level as Payless or Walmart brand shoes. That is all Nike would need to do.
I see the logic on the Puma/Panther but Starbucks got on a chinese company for something sounded similar to them and for having a similar logo LOL
 
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Posted: Tuesday June 13th, 2006 21:21 |
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| They even do mobile phones http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lesmobiles.com/images/div/telephones.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lesmobiles.com/telephones/&h=75&w=256&sz=8&tbnid=1oAi2mp1mPIF3M:&tbnh=31&tbnw=107&hl=en&start=6&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dairness%2Bphone%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
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Can you tell me more about how 'Black' people in France have benefitted from this?
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sam100 wrote:
He is Black.
Wow, unique.
He is French
A [censoredword] then.
He owns a sportswear company.
So he gets money from poor people, with no taste.
He's gonna be BIG
Amongst dumb black folk.
Fulham Football Club will sport his clothes as official uniform.
Wow, a Billionaire giving money to another Billionaire, to make even more money. Hey like attracts like.
His company is called ....Airness
Couldn't give a sh*t, no really.
Nike has competition.
Yeah, it's called Primark.
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Posted: Sunday May 20th, 2007 23:27 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote:
Can you tell me more about how 'Black' people in France have benefitted from this?
LOL... Classic
Peacemaker wrote:
sam100 wrote:
He is Black.
Wow, unique.
He is French
A [censoredword] then.
He owns a sportswear company.
So he gets money from poor people, with no taste.
He's gonna be BIG
Amongst dumb black folk.
Fulham Football Club will sport his clothes as official uniform.
Wow, a Billionaire giving money to another Billionaire, to make even more money. Hey like attracts like.
His company is called ....Airness
Couldn't give a sh*t, no really.
Nike has competition.
Yeah, it's called Primark.
Another Classic... ROFL!!
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Here is some info on this guy, I must say I am impressed by his achievements. Check it out!
Article taken from: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901060612-1200726,00.html
The Hippest Cat in France
Sunday, Jun. 04, 2006 By BRUCE CRUMLEY | PARIS
ON THE BALL: Airness founder Koné hopes to make his panther logo a global icon
JEAN-MARC LUBRANO / RAPHO for TIME
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French businessman malamine Koné is talking a very big game. The 34-year-old founder and ceo of sportswearmaker Airness is explaining his goal of boosting his company's 2005 sales of $150 million — mostly in France — to rival global giant Nike's some $14 billion. Sound a touch fanciful? Don't tell Koné. "You know where Puma was five years ago? Deeply troubled," Koné says of the now-thriving German-American sportswear group, whose own sales last year exceeded $2 billion. "And six years ago, Airness scarcely existed. We didn't get this far this fast worrying about what we supposedly can't do."
That might smack of excessive exuberance, if not for the gains Koné has made in the six short years since he founded Airness — a name borrowed from U.S. basketball star Michael Jordan to reflect Koné's brand motto "ever higher, ever stronger." Koné started in 1999, selling sweatshirts sporting the Airness name and slinking-panther logo around the [an error occurred while processing this directive] northern Paris housing projects where he lived. He has since developed a clothing and sports line that has grown at least 100% every year. Its founder built Airness around his own early street-level observation: kids determine what's hip, not the companies hawking stuff to them. "By observing what people were buying or looking for, I could react faster to current trends and demand and anticipate what would work next," says Koné.
Airness has the irresistible cool derived from celebrities the French love most: football stars. How did Koné swing that when all the pros worth recruiting were already under contracts with Nike, Adidas and Puma? "I came up with the concept of the 'extra-sports' contract — getting players to wear Airness in their private life once their on-field obligations were over," he says. Koné's French-African roots were key to signing stars such as Didier Drogba — an Ivorian who plays for the top English team, Chelsea — and Djibril Cissé, currently with Liverpool. Those ties also allowed Koné to go to the next level: signing Airness as official uniform supplier to several French pro clubs, and half a dozen national squads in Africa. Next season, London club Fulham joins that stable, with an added plus: Fulham's owner Mohamed al Fayed will place Airness products in another asset he owns — Harrods, the London department store.
Such coups have enabled Koné to build Airness into France's largest-selling domestic sportswear brand. Relying on his intelligence, busi-ness flair and never-say-die attitude, Koné is an all-too-rare success story: a young black man from the kind of blighted, unemployment-racked French suburban housing projects that erupted in riots last year. In addition to being one of the brightest lights to have come from the banlieues, Koné is trying to change the system. Without the massive capital and worldwide production resources that the older brands such as Nike and Adidas possess, Koné has used the Airness allure to handpick partners licensed to produce the brand's sportswear — often with stiff conditions. All Airness clothes, for example, must be produced in France to satisfy quality requirements, and firms must have the ability to adapt design and materials quickly as demand evolves. Through similar deals, Koné has extended the Airness paw into other hot-selling, fashion-conscious products ranging from school notebooks to mobile phones.
Koné manages that activity from the offices of MK Promotion — the unit overseeing marketing, communications and design questions for all Airness-branded products, located off Paris' Champs Elysées, a long way from the banlieues. Despite his success, Koné has not forgotten his roots, or the slim chances of escaping the housing projects. MK Promotion recruits new hires from qualified job seekers from the projects who are on the dole, and provides help with business and social projects to banlieue youths. "Contrary to what most people think, we get less requests for funding than we do for advice and pointers on how to navigate the mass of red tape you encounter when you try anything in France," says Koné. "The people of the projects gave me a lot, so I want to give them back as much as I can."
Koné's tale is a dramatic one. Born in the southern Malian village of Niéna — a place that even today has no electricity or running water — Koné came to France at 10, unable to speak the local language. He got a prelaw degree in the hope of becoming a police inspector. A talent for boxing earned him two French amateur titles and selection to represent France in the 1996 Summer Games. But an auto accident in early 1995 shattered his left knee; Koné required 12 operations and five years of rehabilitation.
The injury ended Koné's Olympic and career dreams. But it set the stage for what would later become Airness — whose panther logo was drawn from Koné's nickname from the days before he was forced out of the boxing ring and into a wheelchair. "The long, forced immobility made me observe things in a way I hadn't before — including how fashion works," he says. Koné is convinced that catching up with giants like Adidas and Nike is just as attainable as the dream of millions across France to make it out of the projects, just as he has successfully done. "I've seen that there are lots of preconceived ideas and prejudices out there to stop you from doing what you want if you give in to them," Koné says. "Perhaps my strength is that I don't accept those limits."
Airness's founder insists there'd be a lot more chances to go around if rigid French attitudes could limber up in U.S. style. "In America, if a 15-year-old kid from the Bronx has a million-dollar idea, there's no debate about what's possible: the kid is ceo, and people get to work behind him," laughs Koné. "France has lots of young people with great ideas. Why aren't they getting through?" Still, in at least one area, Koné is a true French traditionalist: he believes that France should support its own. Many multimillion-dollar equipment contracts expire at the end of World Cup play in July. Koné reasons that with Germany's Adidas equipping the Nationalmannschaften, the U.S.'s Nike supplying Team U.S.A. and Britain's Umbro sponsoring England, "I can only hope France will now chose a French company like Airness to supply its uniforms."
The French national team playing in a brand created in the projects by a man who immigrated to France from a village in Mali — that would be something to see.
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