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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:12 |
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I applaud you brother, you have the real courage to say that--that is a real man thing to say!!!
Hey we all make mistakes, learn from your time in the Pen and dont go there again.
Also learn out here that we must care for one another, not just black for black but good people loving good people, strong people loving the broken people.
If you are a believer then you must know the Scriptures. The Scriptures dont talk about race, they talk about us loving ONe another meaning our true brothers are fellow believers. And also our neighbors, all of God creations sinners and saints.
Stay good my man, believe in God, have faith, Love HIM, love others and then love yourself. The world wants you to believe that you love yourself first, but God calls us to love HIM, Love others and then love ourselves.
We need to stretch out our hands to brothaz like you and to Omaar, he is ours too. And we must reach across the border and love and care for the poor their or when they come here.
My father taught me by example, how to love others not like himself. He took his family to the jungles and mountain villages of Central America to live among the poorest of Gods children--He built Gods church, taught them the Bible, How to read, helped them develop job and skills. He helped both the african descendants and the Mayan indian descendants who were all victims of slavery, oppression, hatred, and exploitation by big companies and by the sins of the world.
Sounds kind of liberal coming from an Ultra Conservative black brother but its true conservativatism to me
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:13 |
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I really feel for you omaar! just a matter of time before you self destruct call me what you want.. But i was created in love by a loving creator And after doing hard time in a penal system up top ;(5yrs) I still have love! Needless to say you have some deeper issues?
I've noticed a theme of bitterness and always being argumentative. In any event omaar i still love you brother regardless to the impening attack i will receive cause of me saying,,what i feel as a man.
Man....what's wrong with you?
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well Omaar, while we are at it, lets get rid of the deadbeat lazy black folk too. The onces who father children out of wedlock at the most embarrassing rate of 70%. We are not morally superior to anyone here in the US or Africa for that matter--where we butcher other black people in Rwanda, Sudan, Nigeria, Zimbabwe.
We used to have a moral high ground in the Civil Rights era and before. but now brothaz attack one another with a furry I cant understand. We create rap music that is so out of control, hateful, disgusting, and embarrassing I cringe anytime I hear it and we allow ourselves to be bought off by the majority, as steppin fetch its' in Hollywood.
We need to clean our own house before talking about how someone elses looks. I cant hardly recognize a black neighborhood any more even in my beloved south. Negro tear up stuff so fast, and then do drive bys on our own people! What the heck is that about? its like when we have riots in our neighborhoods, makes no since seeing as it was the whites who enslaved us, not ourselves and not the lowest rung on the Mexican ladder.
Btw yall, the new mayor of LA, a mexican american HAS tried to bring blacks and mexicans together--but he can do just so much when the two jackass communities dont want to do it for themselves.
Keep listening to the black democratic leaders and their white liberal puppeteers and we will think that we brought ourselves over in chains---they want us to be dependent of the federal government, fighting amongst ourselves and remaining the victim. STOP THE VICTIM MENTALITY!!!
Yes...
We need to CLEAN up our own house, not GIVE IT AWAY.
The criminalization and demoralization of the black community that's been happening since the Civil Rights era is just one more diabolical scheme by the enemy to separate us from the Creator so that we'll have no more Divine assistance.
We need to counter this attack by taking control of the media and educational system so that our youth won't be influenced into wickedness.
However it's a personal problem we have to solve among our selves.
I don't want to unite with the Mexican community inside America.
This is not thier country, thier country is Mexico...which is why they're called Mexicans.
So let them stay in Mexico and if they want to unite then invite us to THIER country and let us all be friends.
But hell, you can't come sneaking in my house...eat my food, sleep in my bed, eye-ball my wife...and when I complain about it you have the nerve to tell me:
It's enough room here for both you and me...let us all be friends and get along.
No way Jose....lol.
They weren't pouring in here until AFTER we straightned the white man out and tore down segregation and softed up the vicious racism that existed in this country for centuries.
They're too cowardly to confront their own racist government who won't provide jobs and education for them...
But they want to come in and take advantage of what OUR forefathers fought and died for.
No, let them get THEIR house in order and we'll get OUR house in order.
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:25 |
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I hear you Omar and I can agree on somethings here and others well we will have to just agree to disagree.
what i do agree with you is that since the 60s, the black community has acted like the biggest fools. they have bought into the white mans lust for same sex homosexuality, lusted after the public school system which is a shame anyway and I wouldnt send my child to it, no how no way. We have bowed down before the Kennedys, the Kerrys the Clintons and accepted them as our masters, and listened to Jesse Jackson, the Black Caucus, and Al Sharpton(though he may be changing), who are the black drivers for the liberal agenda to use us to destroy this country.
what do you think they will do with us when they win? what they normally do, forget about us until election time.
I agree that the Mexicans have little regard for us, and their leaders arent running to speak out against their own racism. But the problem is the leaders are liberal's lapdogs too--chihuahuas, out to divide and control each minority group for votes and to patronize us.
dont work with the Mexicans then, but remember its not just them, its the white liberals who want them to come in, to work in their restaurants, yards, and become a voting block for their political agenda.
i agree with blocking the border too
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:43 |
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Both the white liberals as well as the white consevative leadership are giving the wink and nod for illegal aliens to come pouring into the country and destroy our culture and way of life.
Big business is thriving off the non-unionized cheap labor.
They won't be satisfied until America has a 2 Tier system of just rich aristocrats and the poor peasants like the rest of Latin America.
BTW...are you a Republican or Conservative?
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:49 |
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| hmmmmm just one fly in the oitment America will never be YOUR house...or did i miss something!!!
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 21:56 |
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I am both Republican, because I believe in the Republican form of government and most of its platforms, and Ultra Conservative. . . lets just say, Condi Rice is my Farrah Fawcett
I agree with you wholeheartedly on paragraph 1. I blame both of them for the pathetic inactivity of the President to stand for something, and the commie pinko left for supporting the illegal alien flood so they can change the face and course of the electoral politics. they wont stop until this country is a two tier state, one of Oligarchs and central government elite bureaucrats, and the urban and rural peasants.
Non unionized labor is about the only thing I do like and disagree with ya on. the Unions are a pathetic lot as well, corrupt to the core, in bed with the left wing anti-american liberals, with contracts and kickbacks for the bosses and the unskilled labor gets fat until the company is forced to move off shore. another reason for unemployment
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 22:00 |
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 Thank you, for those kind words sir!
may God richly bless you in whatever you find yourself doing over here on this side of eternity. In closing " A
setback is nothing but a setup for a comeback"
"What Satan meant for evil God turned to good!"
I'm outta here! have a great weekend
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 22:16 |
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You too brother take her easy now!!!
I really hate the way brothas and sistahs for that matter come in on Black sites and tear each other down, hasnt the white world done enough of that already man?
Its good to help build a brotha up, and sometime we may disagree(most here disagree with me on everything, and thats cool to me reallY) but others dont know the art of debate and so much hate comes in and attacking.
so it is great to know there are people who can just rap about things without the hate,
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 22:28 |
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tuckerreed wrote: .
I really hate the way brothas and sistahs for that matter come in on Black sites and tear each other down, hasnt the white world done enough of that already man?
Its good to help build a brotha up, and sometime we may disagree(most here disagree with me on everything, and thats cool to me reallY) but others dont know the art of debate and so much hate comes in and attacking.
so it is great to know there are people who can just rap about things without the hate,
LMAO..sorry tuckerreed...but why is it when i read the above I imediately thought kettle pot and black!!?
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 23:11 |
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I don't know where he's getting his delusions of Black/Mexican unity and love from because he's posting from Durham North Carolina where there are enough foul ass Mexicans their taking the jobs away from black people, forming gangs, and raising hell.
They're taking over Charlotte too and snatching up all the jobs from bruthaz already there.
The little bastids are a little nicer in the South than they are on the West coast because there aren't as many of them, but as soon as the numbers come their true selves will come out.
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Nah ah. I'm sorry I gotta check on that right there. This thread began with an appeal to stop complaining. That's number one.
Now the next thing is this. I don't know how old you are and it really doesn't make any difference because my dear brother you ought to know better and your sentiments about 'Mexicans' or anybodt else are counter productive and shameful.
This subject has been touted over and over again on this board and every other board and everywhere in the U.S. and wherever Black people are and have been f**ked up for more than 50 years. And no matter who you blame or get mad at, the bottom line, the cold reality, is that the only problem with Black people, is Black people.
Noone can take anything away from anyone who doesn't let them have it. I used to think the Dominicans were taking over everything, but they're not-They're just here and living and doing for themselves just the way they're supposed to do. And so are the Mexicans, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Russians, and whoever else you wanna say is screwing Black people over.
I'm tired of watching us kill each other, not give a damned about educating ourselves and others about who we are, not caring about our own communities and what we are doing in our own communities and to ourselves, not going out and getting the same things that we by now should know we have just as much capability and right to get and to have as anyone else on this planet.
We don't want to be unified; we are happy with ignorance; we like dying from a disease we can easily avoid; we like booze, drugs and alcihol and pork and candy and all the same crap we said 5o years ago the white man "put a gun to our heads and made us consume". We spend have spent more money on bullsh*t, on drugs, on fashion, on music CDs, on bullets, cigarettes, fried chicken, and funerals than is in the national deficit today. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we created the damned deficit simply by wasting our time and money on bullsh*t.
Whenever a brother or good sister writes a book, has a lecture, steps up to the plate and tries to educate us on what we need to do right or what we're doing wrong, we don,t wanna hear it. We wanna blame this one and that one and stay immersed in our own backwardness where we're comfortable. As long as there's a white man, a Mexican, a Dominican or a Devil to blame it all on, we don'r need to be responsible because as far as we're concerned we're already powerless and hopeless to change anything. Everyone wants to do or keep doing their own thing and half the time our 'thing' is bullsh*t. we can't have anything cause the 'white man won't let us have it' or cause ni**gers just don't want it, so why bother, right? Sure.
So the good brother and the good sister has to find a way to whip us into shape without infringing on anyone's right or desire to continue be a knuckle-head. So if you want morality you gotta go to church, and all the sinners are in the church; if you want revolution, you gotta join a club and the is just a hangout; if you want status you gotta be a rapper and rappers just talk sh*t and we pay them to talk sh*t-to us and to our children and then our children talk sh*t to us; if you want money and power you either gotta be 'white' or be a house n****r and in that case there's no way of staying Black or being Black, because knowledge and intellect and intelligence and good sense, and love and peace makes you something-but not Black.
And when you get up in the morining and walk out the door you stop at the store and but your paper, you booze and your cigarettes from an Arab; your Groceries from a Mexican or a Dominican; you get your dry cleaning done by a Korean or Chinese, you work for a White man and live in a Jew's house.
But when you catcha bullet, you catch it from a Black; when you catch the virus, you get it from a Blackl; when you get into a fight you fight with a Black; When you rob and steal, you rob and steal from a Black.
Listen. Later fror all that Mexican sh*t. Later for all the Dominican sh*t and white sh*t and all the other 'I can't cuz they won't let me' sh*t.
You wanna start something, today? Start a sou sou, start, start an LLC, start a production company, a bank, a school; manufacture something other than death. Build something other than a dream. Examine YOUR attitude and ask yourself what role YOU play and whether it's good or bad for the next brother or sister. Is you music too loud, is anyone children affected by what you do, did you teach anyone anytrhing today, did you learn anything today, did you help anyone today, did you save a dime or a dollar, did you pray, diod you tell any other Black man or woman that you love them? Did you look in the mirror and tell yourself that you LOVE YOU?
And don't try to flip it on me cuz I WROTE IT AND IT DIDN'T FEEL GOOD.
I'm out.
I love you Omaar.
Peace.
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Posted: Friday August 5th, 2005 23:57 |
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Kunjufu wrote: tuckerreed wrote: .
I really hate the way brothas and sistahs for that matter come in on Black sites and tear each other down, hasnt the white world done enough of that already man?
Its good to help build a brotha up, and sometime we may disagree(most here disagree with me on everything, and thats cool to me reallY) but others dont know the art of debate and so much hate comes in and attacking.
so it is great to know there are people who can just rap about things without the hate,
LMAO..sorry tuckerreed...but why is it when i read the above I imediately thought kettle pot and black!!?
My sentiments exactly. I think it's even worse when he performs for the benefit of white audiences.
tuckerreed on Aug. 4: What do they want? A medal? They have attitudes which drive all men away not just black men. They dont keep themselves up and when they do they think they are better than black men. The only black women who are worth dating are African women, who are often better kept and better educated.
if the sister drops the I am so above all black men act then they would be chosen but if you go up to a sister in a cafe or bar, her nose is so far in the air and for what, most are hood rats out of the working and lower classes who go financial aid and loans for school and so they are not better than anyone else.
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Posted: Saturday August 6th, 2005 04:27 |
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Don't know why you deleted your comments so quickly, but you're correct...tuckerreed should be a politician talking out of both sides of his mouth like that.
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Posted: Saturday August 6th, 2005 14:17 |
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Tuckerreed
I don't know bro....
Perhaps I may be a little biased because I'm a Union Man myself.
A card carrying member of the IBEW.
If it weren't for the unions we probably wouldn't have had the solid middle/working-class that kepts America as stable as it's been these last 60 years.
Now that the politicians are flooding America with so many cheap laborers and slaves and lowering the wages for workers across the board, the middle-class is gonna be all but completely erased in about 10 years.
Hrunopi
I agree with just about everything you said but the same thing actually applies to Mexicans also who are in much worse shape than us morally, financially, and culturally.
I know we have issues we must solve among ourselves but that still is no reason go give away our blessings and sell out the future of our children.
Again, let the Mexicans stay in Mexico
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Posted: Saturday August 6th, 2005 15:17 |
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Nah ah. I'm sorry I gotta check on that right there. This thread began with an appeal to stop complaining. That's number one.
Now the next thing is this. I don't know how old you are and it really doesn't make any difference because my dear brother you ought to know better and your sentiments about 'Mexicans' or anybodt else are counter productive and shameful.
This subject has been touted over and over again on this board and every other board and everywhere in the U.S. and wherever Black people are and have been f**ked up for more than 50 years. And no matter who you blame or get mad at, the bottom line, the cold reality, is that the only problem with Black people, is Black people.
Noone can take anything away from anyone who doesn't let them have it. I used to think the Dominicans were taking over everything, but they're not-They're just here and living and doing for themselves just the way they're supposed to do. And so are the Mexicans, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Russians, and whoever else you wanna say is screwing Black people over.
I'm tired of watching us kill each other, not give a damned about educating ourselves and others about who we are, not caring about our own communities and what we are doing in our own communities and to ourselves, not going out and getting the same things that we by now should know we have just as much capability and right to get and to have as anyone else on this planet.
We don't want to be unified; we are happy with ignorance; we like dying from a disease we can easily avoid; we like booze, drugs and alcihol and pork and candy and all the same crap we said 5o years ago the white man "put a gun to our heads and made us consume". We spend have spent more money on bullsh*t, on drugs, on fashion, on music CDs, on bullets, cigarettes, fried chicken, and funerals than is in the national deficit today. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we created the damned deficit simply by wasting our time and money on bullsh*t.
Whenever a brother or good sister writes a book, has a lecture, steps up to the plate and tries to educate us on what we need to do right or what we're doing wrong, we don,t wanna hear it. We wanna blame this one and that one and stay immersed in our own backwardness where we're comfortable. As long as there's a white man, a Mexican, a Dominican or a Devil to blame it all on, we don'r need to be responsible because as far as we're concerned we're already powerless and hopeless to change anything. Everyone wants to do or keep doing their own thing and half the time our 'thing' is bullsh*t. we can't have anything cause the 'white man won't let us have it' or cause ni**gers just don't want it, so why bother, right? Sure.
So the good brother and the good sister has to find a way to whip us into shape without infringing on anyone's right or desire to continue be a knuckle-head. So if you want morality you gotta go to church, and all the sinners are in the church; if you want revolution, you gotta join a club and the is just a hangout; if you want status you gotta be a rapper and rappers just talk sh*t and we pay them to talk sh*t-to us and to our children and then our children talk sh*t to us; if you want money and power you either gotta be 'white' or be a house n****r and in that case there's no way of staying Black or being Black, because knowledge and intellect and intelligence and good sense, and love and peace makes you something-but not Black.
And when you get up in the morining and walk out the door you stop at the store and but your paper, you booze and your cigarettes from an Arab; your Groceries from a Mexican or a Dominican; you get your dry cleaning done by a Korean or Chinese, you work for a White man and live in a Jew's house.
But when you catcha bullet, you catch it from a Black; when you catch the virus, you get it from a Blackl; when you get into a fight you fight with a Black; When you rob and steal, you rob and steal from a Black.
Listen. Later fror all that Mexican sh*t. Later for all the Dominican sh*t and white sh*t and all the other 'I can't cuz they won't let me' sh*t.
You wanna start something, today? Start a sou sou, start, start an LLC, start a production company, a bank, a school; manufacture something other than death. Build something other than a dream. Examine YOUR attitude and ask yourself what role YOU play and whether it's good or bad for the next brother or sister. Is you music too loud, is anyone children affected by what you do, did you teach anyone anytrhing today, did you learn anything today, did you help anyone today, did you save a dime or a dollar, did you pray, diod you tell any other Black man or woman that you love them? Did you look in the mirror and tell yourself that you LOVE YOU?
And don't try to flip it on me cuz I WROTE IT AND IT DIDN'T FEEL GOOD.
I'm out.
I love you Omaar.
Peace.
For some reason we seem to be so against ourselves. We need to get it together and do for ourselves. I am. What is every other black person doing, sadly, most likely for themself.
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Posted: Saturday August 6th, 2005 15:45 |
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One of our biggest problems is self-hatered and confusion.
If I said all Mexicans could go jump in to a lake, why would any black man feel the need to step in and take up for thier defense?
That's plain stupid.
What has a Mexican done for you?
What has the Mexican government did for black peoplel that we should defend their presence?
You have no business defending those people PERIOD.
This is how much the Mexican government thinks of youi:
Get the picture?
Most Mexicans don't love you and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, and some of you silly negroes not only defend them but even call them "brothers".
You'd fight a REAL brother just to defend your enemy.
Deaf, dumb, and blind out of your mind.
Just like the Chinese, the Arab, and the Indian...the Mexica is looking out for HIMSELF and his children and you better look out for YOURS.
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Posted: Saturday August 6th, 2005 18:10 |
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Yeah okay. And to that Omaar I say-
SO WHAT! So what! Does that stamp define you? Do images like that make you feel like less than a man or like a clown. I don't see that you are complaining about the globally ignobale proliferation of the "N" word- BUFU! When was the last time YOU (And when I say YOU I mean any one of US collectively-So DON'T take it personal) overheard somebody's ten year old black li'l badass child use that word and even bother to correct them for it or explain to THEM why images like that are not cool?
Don't you see yourSELF man? Don't you see that at the end of the day it all boils down to you and me and this one and that and the next one doing not a damned thing more than b**ching and whining about what someone else is doing rather than doing for SELF?
SO WHAT? Don't like that stamp? WRITE CONGRESS. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Obviously it exists not necessarily because Mexicans are racists but most likely because they wouldn't know any better one way or the other since WE haven't bother to define ourselves FOR OR AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN. Ask a Mexican who Malcom X is, and they'll say, "Oh, some "N..... I guess." They don't know, and they don't know that that same "N...... would've fought for their rights just like anyone else! WHY? BHecause WE have neglected to onor MAlcolm. WE have let the memory of our history, our heroes, our culture and our struggle, dissipate, diminish and disappear. No Mexican did that my friend. WE DID.
For every one of those stamps there's one of us, out ther, right now, saying, and doing something far far worse to themselves, or someone just like them. That stamp with that silly ass image has no more power than you give it to any harm to anyone but YOU.
Once again my brother, I Love YOU. Can you feel that? Can you just grab onto that and hold it for a few minutes? Don't be scared of it, don't turn it into something it isn't, don't question it, and don't stand there lookin at tit all stupid. It's LOVE. It's SELF LOVE. The more I give you, the more you get abnd the better we all get and it's free and it's the ONLY thing that's gonna save our asses and it's THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON AGAINST AND ENEMY YOU NAME.
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Hrunopi
Yeah okay. And to that Omaar I say-
SO WHAT! So what! Does that stamp define you? Do images like that make you feel like less than a man or like a clown. I don't see that you are complaining about the globally ignobale proliferation of the "N" word- BUFU! When was the last time YOU (And when I say YOU I mean any one of US collectively-So DON'T take it personal) overheard somebody's ten year old black li'l badass child use that word and even bother to correct them for it or explain to THEM why images like that are not cool?
Don't you see yourSELF man? Don't you see that at the end of the day it all boils down to you and me and this one and that and the next one doing not a damned thing more than b**ching and whining about what someone else is doing rather than doing for SELF?
SO WHAT? Don't like that stamp? WRITE CONGRESS. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Obviously it exists not necessarily because Mexicans are racists but most likely because they wouldn't know any better one way or the other since WE haven't bother to define ourselves FOR OR AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN. Ask a Mexican who Malcom X is, and they'll say, "Oh, some "N..... I guess." They don't know, and they don't know that that same "N...... would've fought for their rights just like anyone else! WHY? BHecause WE have neglected to onor MAlcolm. WE have let the memory of our history, our heroes, our culture and our struggle, dissipate, diminish and disappear. No Mexican did that my friend. WE DID.
For every one of those stamps there's one of us, out ther, right now, saying, and doing something far far worse to themselves, or someone just like them. That stamp with that silly ass image has no more power than you give it to any harm to anyone but YOU.
I'm inclined to agree with you but what does that have to do with the blatant insult the Mexican government showed black people with that stamp?
If someone called you a niggger and burned a cross in your front yard, would you run outside and drop to you knees crying and say:
 "I deserve it....I deserve every bit of your racist abuse because too many of my people are in jail, on dope, and on welfare and we don't stick together enough."
Or would you grab a gun and defend your family from the immediate threat?
There is a time and place for everything.
A time to love and a time to hate....ain't that what your Bible says?
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blackneck wrote: safetyblitz wrote: Problem is blackneck Mexicans are racist as hell towards us too.
That very well may be true ! But does two wrongs make a right!
Right here in Durham, NC,. when the Mexicans started coming into the city.
" Because for whatever reason "they were not feeling putting their money in the bank... brothers, got wind of this {now enter the STICK- UP BOYS}
'IT WAS CRAZZY AROUND HERE'
So i for one can relate and understand how they feel about us
Let's face it forum members they are the new if you will and for the lack
of a better term " THE NEW N****rS ON THE BLOCK"!!!!!
That may be true, BUT that is how we ended up on the damned slaves ships in the first people. Black people opening their welcoming arms to people and bam a couple hundred years later you have a big divide in black people on both sides of the Atlantic. Why? Because black were friendly to foreigners instead of running them out of their communities. I mean if we turn to helping racists, heck why not take another step and help the Klan and Skinheads? A hell of a lot of them are from poor backgrounds too.
I am sorry. LA tried the "we are one brothers" because we are not white and the Mexicans and the other Latin American countries took advantage of this and guess who they sided with when they got money? White people. You can play rainbow coalition all you want in the Durham, but we know them better and I guess after they shaft you, you will remember our warning about them to you. They honestly do not give a damn about black people. If you understood some Spanish and hung around them long enough you would see this. Even when I play soccer, they go after me before the go after a white boy on my team. If if the white boy is being really physical with them. I had to take two of them out the other day in a scrimmage. All because they thought the N***** was easier to pick on. I just showed them, I ain't uncles tom and I ain't taking sh*t off no one who attempts to hurt me. I was trying to make burritos out on that field. If it ain't black, I could really give a damn about their problems. Cuz they sure as hell don't EVER, EVER, EVA (southern) try to help us when they can.
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tuckerreed wrote: Blitz, you know i always agree with you on things but that statement we part ways. How is it that blacks take scholarships to school from white people instead of sticking only to our kind and getting money there? why is there any aid for AIDS and starvation to Africa coming mostly from whites around the world. If sticking to ourselves were the case their would be more people dying not less, and there would be less opportunity for jobs and careers not more.
no we must work for each other but always working in coalition with others who share our values, recognizing that their are some in every race that do not work for us even some of our own
Easy Tucker. How did a lot of white farmers gain their wealth? Through having slaves work their large plots of land. Now that land has been in their families for generations through the work of UNPAID black people. So consider that a down payment on a 500 year pay back plan. ANy more question?
As far as AIDs in Africa, what about all the land and colonization and land theft by European countries in Africa? Could you consider that payback to them? I can take it a step farther. I know with my own eyes that the USSR and USA used African countries to basically test battle strategies and weapons in real battles as each of the "civilized" nations tried to say they were only military advisors. So maybe they are trying to pay Africa back after they destabilized a lot of it.
I love this country, BUT, I also have seen a lot of motives for this country as well as its' evil sides like prison camps that make Guantanamo bay look like a Ritz Carlton Presidential suite. yeah us the good guys have prison camps, that are not conspiracy theories, seen them with my own eyes. Don't feel sorry for a lot of the people in there either, but I know my country does not always wear the white hat. So a white man is not always as white as you try to make him. He goes from white to grey to dark grey to black and back to white as it suits him.
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Hrunopi wrote: Yeah okay. And to that Omaar I say-
SO WHAT! So what! Does that stamp define you? Do images like that make you feel like less than a man or like a clown. I don't see that you are complaining about the globally ignobale proliferation of the "N" word- BUFU! When was the last time YOU (And when I say YOU I mean any one of US collectively-So DON'T take it personal) overheard somebody's ten year old black li'l badass child use that word and even bother to correct them for it or explain to THEM why images like that are not cool?
Don't you see yourSELF man? Don't you see that at the end of the day it all boils down to you and me and this one and that and the next one doing not a damned thing more than b**ching and whining about what someone else is doing rather than doing for SELF?
SO WHAT? Don't like that stamp? WRITE CONGRESS. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Obviously it exists not necessarily because Mexicans are racists but most likely because they wouldn't know any better one way or the other since WE haven't bother to define ourselves FOR OR AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN. Ask a Mexican who Malcom X is, and they'll say, "Oh, some "N..... I guess." They don't know, and they don't know that that same "N...... would've fought for their rights just like anyone else! WHY? BHecause WE have neglected to onor MAlcolm. WE have let the memory of our history, our heroes, our culture and our struggle, dissipate, diminish and disappear. No Mexican did that my friend. WE DID.
For every one of those stamps there's one of us, out ther, right now, saying, and doing something far far worse to themselves, or someone just like them. That stamp with that silly ass image has no more power than you give it to any harm to anyone but YOU.
Once again my brother, I Love YOU. Can you feel that? Can you just grab onto that and hold it for a few minutes? Don't be scared of it, don't turn it into something it isn't, don't question it, and don't stand there lookin at tit all stupid. It's LOVE. It's SELF LOVE. The more I give you, the more you get abnd the better we all get and it's free and it's the ONLY thing that's gonna save our asses and it's THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON AGAINST AND ENEMY YOU NAME.
I hate to bust your bubble Hat, but the enemy of our enemy is not our friend. I say Fugg 'em. Let them do their thing and we do ours. They know how black people are fighting for their rights here. They ride the ACLU and point to all the rights we have struggled. Mexicans do it, Asians do it, the Oriental people do it, the Native Americans do it, even the Gay people do it. They know what we fought for. They just still see themselves above us and any one of African descent of that matter. Like I said the enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend.
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I don't know about you....
But to me it's scary as hell to here our own men talk like that.
If something went down, only a handful of us would be ready to ride.
The rest will be too busy trying to "love" and get along with the enemy to defend themselves.
I could understand our women not seeing a thread, but men are supposed to be territorial by nature.
You think they're putting salt-peter in the water to screw black men's heads up in America?
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Safety
I don't know about you....
But to me it's scary as hell to here our own men talk like that.
If something went down, only a handful of us would be ready to ride.
The rest will be too busy trying to "love" and get along with the enemy to defend themselves.
I could understand our women not seeing a thread, but men are supposed to be territorial by nature.
You think they're putting salt-peter in the water to screw black men's heads up in America?
Omaar
Alright-now you have pissed me off. You wanna be scared of something? I refrained from puttin up my last response to yu in the name of peace and keepin to the subject of this thread. But the fact of the matter is that the Brutha who started this thread at least had a PLAN! He put somethin on the damned table EVERYBODY COULD WORK WITH. If anything Omaar you've only re-inforced what I been saying cuz while the REST of the folks here are tryin to build on something positive for the whole, you just wana sit back and bich an moan and indulge yoursef in petty, worthless triflin biases; you wanna get hung up on a dumbass stamp printed by a government postal service you can't -and haven't suggested-doing a thing about. So while erbody else is comin up with ways to strengthen themselves and those in their immidiate commune, yur off on yur gringo witch hunts!
If you'd take some time to look thru som o my posts you might find out that I'm one of the ANGRIEST, MOST AFROCENTRICALLY MILITANT M**** F***** HERE! I DON'T LIKE CRAKKAZ, AND I DONT CARE NUTHIN ABOUT DOMINICANS, PORTO ROX, ARABS, CHINX, GRINGOS KOREANS-NONE O THEM! I DON'T GIVE A FUK ABOUT NONE BUT MY OWN DUDE AND THATS A FACT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE MORE THAN THAT! I HATE A IGNANT ASS N**** MORE THAN ALL OF THE ABOVE. I HATE A BLACK MAN THAT RUNZ AROUND TALKIN ABOUT 'ENEMIES' BUT CAN'T HELP TURN HIS HEAD WHEN A WHITE CHICK STRUTS BY; I CAN'T STAND A BLACK WOMAN WHO WALKS AROUND DRESSED UP ALL AFRO-CENTRIC AND SPITTIN OUT A WHITE MAN'S BABIES! I CAN'T STAND A BLACK MAN THAT WANTS TO BICH AND WHINE ABOUT WHAT THIS ONE AND THAT ONE IS DOIN WHILE HE SPENDS ALL HIS CASH ON A BUNCH A sh*t HE DON'T MANUFACTURE OR OWN!
HELL IF IT WERE UP TO ME I WOULD NUKE HALF THE BLACK PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET JUST CUZ I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WORTH sh*t AND THE OTHER HALF CUZ THEY'RE TWO SHADES TOO LIGHTER THAN ME AND I'M BARELY BROWN MY DAMNED SELF.
You aint herd ME say a thing about 'lovin no enemy'or turnin the utha cheek or none o that sh*t. What I said is that WE A A PEOPLE NEED TO PULL OURSELVES UP BY THE STRAPS AND FOCUS ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OURSELVES TO GET BACK THE RESPECT OF THIS WHOLE DAMNED WORLD CUZ WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT-AND WHY? CUZ WE WANNA ANALYZE CARTOONS!
What I give a f**k about a li'l Black Sambo stamp? HUH? THAT sh*t DON'T DEFINE ME. If that's what you see when you look in the mirror man I'm sorry but that's a problem you gotta work out yo damned self. But in the mean time-In the mean time my man, why don't you look around and see what you can find to bring to the table other than a stamp! And if you MUST bring that, put it on a enevelope with a letter to the NAACP or the Mexican Government itself with the message 'FUK YOU SPEEDY'. And while you're at it, why don't you send the same stamp to all them step-n-fetch it sitcoms and record labels and rappers and Oscar winnin' Black Actors like dirty-black cop Denzel (Training Day), or Ofay HOEfay Halle (Monster's Ball) huh?
And you know what else-YEAH YOU DESERVE IT! YOU DAMNED RIGHT! ER ONE OF US DESERVE IT CUZ GUESS WHAT DUDE-LOOK WHERE WE AT RIGHT THIS MINUTE. WE RIGHT HERE BULLsh*tTIN. CHECK THAT OUT. NO THE REVOLUTION WON'T BE TELEVISED YOU KNOW WHY? IT WON'T BE AIRED CUZ WE'LL BE TOO BUSY WATCHIN OPRAH, AND JERRY, AND RIKKI, AND ONE LIFE AND GENERAL AND FEAR FACTOR AND ALL THAT OTHER CRAP THE NETWORKS KNOW WE LOVE TO WATCH-IN WHICH CASE, THERE WON'T BE NO REVOLUTION.
Like Black Neck said-If you keep on hatin like that you gon self-destruct just like er other brutha self destructs. And you know what happens then? If you so mad about the Mexican government-Go out there and whup a Mexican's ass about it and go to jail, that is if you really think that will solve any of massive problems we all have.
You see man I used to be an overt militant just like you, it's all over this board and if you look you'll see it. But I realized that I was spending 90% of my time MAD at erbody and 10% of my time doin nuthin about whatever I was mad abt.
My blood pressure went up, I was screamin on my lady all the time, I always wanted to fight anybody-especially the police. I even wanted troget a gun and shoot up a cupla dozen people just on GP. But for what? For what? None of your anger with Mexicans is gonna stop that virus, or stop them half-white babies from gittin spit out, or stop the flux of dope in your hood, or get them young bruthaz off the street, or educate the younger bruthas ans sistas who don't even know who Dred Scott is or what Habeus Corpus means, or help our peeps in any other way you can imagine we need to be helped.
All I'm saying is later for that stamp. At this stage of the game you should be sooooo proud of who you are that sh*t like that should roll off your back and you can laugh in a mexican's face about it long enough to make him think you really think its funny. Get that contract with them and get some of the same cheap labor the white man is gettin and mass produce some Speey Gonzalez stamps. You dig?
YOU see the difference in perspective and how to THINK about things?
YOU I can go on ramblin but I'm gon fall back n let you work ya own thing out. And whatever you think about it, Omaar I still love you, and Iwidh you all the BLACK POWER In the World. Peace. I'm out.
P.S. Please escuse my raving cussin I got a li'l uptight and have since cleaned up most of what I posted.
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As far as MY contribution to the plan-
I'd suggest that one thing we can all do is get educated about whatever legal system is in place where we live. Know the LAW that governs YOU.
To hell with rights-act asif you don't have any. The only right you have as a Black person in this world isyour right to know the LAW.
http://www.truthsetsusfree.com
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/chapter3.htm
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/UCC.htm
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/law_working.htm
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/money/FED1.htm
http://www.mainemediaresources.com/usaac.htm
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/right.htm
http://autarchic.tripod.com/dixon/contents.html
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/contract-law.htm
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/UCC.htm
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/birth-certificate.htm
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/birth-certificate.htm
There are many more sources, and much more information. Just keep poking aroung with keywords and you'll find them.
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I DON'T LIKE CRAKKAZ, AND I DONT CARE NUTHIN ABOUT DOMINICANS, PORTO ROX, ARABS, CHINX, GRINGOS KOREANS-NONE O THEM! I DON'T GIVE A FUK ABOUT NONE BUT MY OWN DUDE AND THATS A FACT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE MORE THAN THAT! I HATE A IGNANT ASS N**** MORE THAN ALL OF THE ABOVE. I HATE A BLACK MAN THAT RUNZ AROUND TALKIN ABOUT 'ENEMIES' BUT CAN'T HELP TURN HIS HEAD WHEN A WHITE CHICK STRUTS BY; I CAN'T STAND A BLACK WOMAN WHO WALKS AROUND DRESSED UP ALL AFRO-CENTRIC AND SPITTIN OUT A WHITE MAN'S BABIES! I CAN'T STAND A BLACK MAN THAT WANTS TO BICH AND WHINE ABOUT WHAT THIS ONE AND THAT ONE IS DOIN WHILE HE SPENDS ALL HIS CASH ON A BUNCH A sh*t HE DON'T MANUFACTURE OR OWN!
HELL IF IT WERE UP TO ME I WOULD NUKE HALF THE BLACK PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET JUST CUZ I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WORTH sh*t AND THE OTHER HALF CUZ THEY'RE TWO SHADES TOO LIGHTER THAN ME AND I'M BARELY BROWN MY DAMNED SELF.
So in other words, you hate your own people more than anybody else......
All this hate from a man who claimed to love so much ((shakes head))
........somebody come and take this crazy niggga away.
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you wrote that two wrongs dont make a right on the issue of Mexicans, but then you blame European colonialism on Americans born today? I dont understand that. Also, prison camps arent just in the US and not just by white on black. black on black divisions in africa should sicken you too. black on black crimes in the streets of London, or LA or Brazil should sicken you more than anything as well. We are killing ourselves and the main post is Who's ready to stand up and pitch in to help our community-and it has digressed into, more attacks on each other. This is why we are in the mess we are in.
If folks dont like whitey, dont take his money (Period). I am no Malcolm X fan but I agree with him and Farrakhan about being lapdogs for the white man for his money, and yet complaining about him left and right. Dont take his money and stand up against him, that would be the best mode I would think. But as long as we do we are the hypocrites.
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you wrote that two wrongs dont make a right on the issue of Mexicans, but then you blame European colonialism on Americans born today? I dont understand that. Also, prison camps arent just in the US and not just by white on black. black on black divisions in africa should sicken you too. black on black crimes in the streets of London, or LA or Brazil should sicken you more than anything as well. We are killing ourselves and the main post is Who's ready to stand up and pitch in to help our community-and it has digressed into, more attacks on each other. This is why we are in the mess we are in.
If folks dont like whitey, dont take his money (Period). I am no Malcolm X fan but I agree with him and Farrakhan about being lapdogs for the white man for his money, and yet complaining about him left and right. Dont take his money and stand up against him, that would be the best mode I would think. But as long as we do we are the hypocrites.
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you wrote that two wrongs dont make a right on the issue of Mexicans, but then you blame European colonialism on Americans born today? I dont understand that. Also, prison camps arent just in the US and not just by white on black. black on black divisions in africa should sicken you too. black on black crimes in the streets of London, or LA or Brazil should sicken you more than anything as well. We are killing ourselves and the main post is Who's ready to stand up and pitch in to help our community-and it has digressed into, more attacks on each other. This is why we are in the mess we are in.
If folks dont like whitey, dont take his money (Period). I am no Malcolm X fan but I agree with him and Farrakhan about being lapdogs for the white man for his money, and yet complaining about him left and right. Dont take his money and stand up against him, that would be the best mode I would think. But as long as we do we are the hypocrites.
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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 14:34 |
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No Omaar-
In YOUR words, the words you are trying to stuff in my mouth. Whatever. What I've said is very clear and if it is not clear to you , once again, that is not my problem.
Then again, I see you've left the battlefield-And you know what is said about that.
I'm not going to argue with you on this board about stamps and Mexicans or play your semantic games. What I've said in my post is quite clearly figurative and facetious and has a context which you have chosen to dismiss, merely for the sake of of winning an argument.
If you have a plan, and idea, a way to fix things, then by all means, please present it.
Once again. Love and Peace.
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Omaar wrote:
One of our biggest problems is self-hatered and confusion.
If I said all Mexicans could go jump in to a lake, why would any black man feel the need to step in and take up for thier defense?
That's plain stupid.
What has a Mexican done for you?
What has the Mexican government did for black peoplel that we should defend their presence?
You have no business defending those people PERIOD.
This is how much the Mexican government thinks of youi:
Get the picture?
Most Mexicans don't love you and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, and some of you silly negroes not only defend them but even call them "brothers".
You'd fight a REAL brother just to defend your enemy.
Deaf, dumb, and blind out of your mind.
Just like the Chinese, the Arab, and the Indian...the Mexica is looking out for HIMSELF and his children and you better look out for YOURS.
I totally agree with you, but it'll be too late when folks wake up to the fact that Mexicans and other latinos are not our friend. Everyone uses us as stepping stones in the beginning but show their true colors in the end. The same goes for all the latinas appearing onscreen with black men who are greedily lapping it up.
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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 17:16 |
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| so who is starting what community meeting and how has it gone so far? the topic got off target but hopefully we can pull it back
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 07:21 |
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 10:19 |
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Okay!
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