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 Posted: Friday September 30th, 2005 00:54

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Analyst: Xbox 360 leads console wars through 2008 Piper Jaffray predicts hard-drive-equipped PSP in mid-2006, healthy growth for gaming industry through 2011. In their latest gaming industry overview for investors, Piper Jaffray analysts Anthony Gikas and Stephanie Wissink are projecting continued growth for the industry, a new hard-drive-equipped PSP next year, Microsoft's Xbox 360 jumping out to an early lead in the console wars, and a less-than-revolutionary showing for the Revolution.
 Starting with the home hardware, Gikas and Wissink released their sales projections for each system over the next three years. Through 2008, Gikas and Wissink expect Microsoft to sell 19.6 million Xbox 360 units, with the PlayStation 3 and Revolution trailing at 15.5 million and 5 million units, respectively. The estimates for both Sony and Nintendo's consoles are based on late 2006 releases for the systems. But while the PS3 is expected to accelerate quickly and lead all systems with 8.5 million units sold in 2008, the ambitious Revolution is listed as starting slow (500,000 units sold in 2006), and lagging behind its competition with 2 million and 3 million systems moved in 2007 and 2008, respectively.
Gikas and Wissink forecast a modest net increase in console sales, partly due to market cannibalization as the handheld sector catches fire. The analysts are projecting a 45 percent increase in handheld hardware sales for the next cycle (which runs through 2011). The combined Game Boy line (including the DS) is projected to have a banner 2005 with a whopping 7.5 million units sold compared to the PSP's projected 3.8 million, but the next three years will see Sony and Nintendo running neck and neck in the handheld business. Gikas and Wissink have the PSP and Game Boy lines both posting annual sales for 2006, 2007, and 2008 of 5.5 million, 5 million, and 6 million. One of the most interesting aspects of the pair's handheld projections is that the report mentions they're expecting Sony "to launch the next generation of its PSP (including an audio/video hard-drive) in mid-2006."
Software sales are likewise expected to jump significantly, with a projected 43 percent increase by 2008. In addition, Gikas and Wissink are expecting that new revenue streams like in-game advertising and online downloads will grow 500 percent, from under a quarter-billion in 2005 to $1.36 billion in 2008. They cautioned against short-term investing in publishers because of market volatility over the next 12 months, but reiterated their Outperform rating on major publishers like Electronic Arts, Activision, THQ, and Take-Two Interactive.
By Brendan Sinclair -- GameSpot

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 Posted: Friday September 30th, 2005 06:51

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Analyst: Xbox 360 leads console wars through 2008


Riiight. The machine is dead in Japan already. Nobody wants one there right now. They have about 50 Japanese publishers on board, so hopefully people there might think again once it's released.

Piper Jaffray predicts hard-drive-equipped PSP in mid-2006.

Heading the same way as the Atari Lynx, or will do if they keep releasing Ps2 remakes on them. Addons for consoles have never done well in the past. With the PSP's pathetic battery life as it that predicted hard drive equipped version better run on solar power. Perhaps making better memory sticks is the logical thing to do. With 2 gb stick about I don't see any point in complicating things with a hard drive.

healthy growth for gaming industry through 2011. In their latest gaming industry overview for investors, Piper Jaffray analysts Anthony Gikas and Stephanie Wissink are projecting continued growth for the industry, a new hard-drive-equipped PSP next year, Microsoft's Xbox 360 jumping out to an early lead in the console wars, and a less-than-revolutionary showing for the Revolution. 

It will get an early lead in the console wars simply because it's getting released earlier. In that time they better have some triple A games, because what I've seen so far hasn't really impressed too much. The PC has already caught up with it in terms of graphics. Games like Quake 4 and UT 2007, are games they're promoting as killer titles. Titles that are coming out on the PC first.

The Revolution like the Gamecube today will do well in Japan, alot better than the Xbox 360 will ever do there..

Sony will walk it unfortunately. And lets face it compared to the Xbox and Gamecube the Ps2 machine is inferior. But still has managed to do extremely well, it just has more support. Not something that's going to change to soon that. Not to mention the power of the brand.

Starting with the home hardware, Gikas and Wissink released their sales projections for each system over the next three years. Through 2008, Gikas and Wissink expect Microsoft to sell 19.6 million Xbox 360 units, with the PlayStation 3 and Revolution trailing at 15.5 million and 5 million units, respectively.

These predictions are bold. Considering it now costs twice as much to develop a game, and because of that the games will be 10 to 20 quid more to buy. Expect alot of company merges, and buyouts, which could favour microsoft I have to admit.. But alot of people might start to get tired of the flash graphics and little content in them. I predict an increase in rentals if anything.

 The estimates for both Sony and Nintendo's consoles are based on late 2006 releases for the systems. But while the PS3 is expected to accelerate quickly and lead all systems with 8.5 million units sold in 2008, the ambitious Revolution is listed as starting slow (500,000 units sold in 2006), and lagging behind its competition with 2 million and 3 million systems moved in 2007 and 2008, respectively.
Gikas and Wissink forecast a modest net increase in console sales, partly due to market cannibalization as the handheld sector catches fire. The analysts are projecting a 45 percent increase in handheld hardware sales for the next cycle (which runs through 2011). The combined Game Boy line (including the DS) is projected to have a banner 2005 with a whopping 7.5 million units sold compared to the PSP's projected 3.8 million, but the next three years will see Sony and Nintendo running neck and neck in the handheld business. Gikas and Wissink have the PSP and Game Boy lines both posting annual sales for 2006, 2007, and 2008 of 5.5 million, 5 million, and 6 million. One of the most interesting aspects of the pair's handheld projections is that the report mentions they're expecting Sony "to launch the next generation of its PSP (including an audio/video hard-drive) in mid-2006."
Software sales are likewise expected to jump significantly, with a projected 43 percent increase by 2008. In addition, Gikas and Wissink are expecting that new revenue streams like in-game advertising and online downloads will grow 500 percent, from under a quarter-billion in 2005 to $1.36 billion in 2008. They cautioned against short-term investing in publishers because of market volatility over the next 12 months, but reiterated their Outperform rating on major publishers like Electronic Arts, Activision, THQ, and Take-Two Interactive.
By Brendan Sinclair -- GameSpot


 

The XBOX 360 releases aren't looking too pretty either with 90% of the games being out already on other formats or coming out on other formats at some point. Sports games are it's main attraction, sports games that will have improved versions on the PS3 due to more time to develop them. 

Project Gotham Racing 3 being the only thing positive to note, and that a sequel.

With the PS3 being technically superior, and more expensive to boot, and having alot more support, the Xbox 360 might start to struggle, when titles like Devil May Cry and Gran Tursimo start making waves. It will need more than Halo 3 to get it out of the water.

I just hope Nintendo can spring a few surprises, because Sony and Microsoft sound too confident in my opinion, and I don't see much reason for them to be so, other than flash graphics and sequels they ain't offering much new. People might say improved online gaming, but the PC has been doing that for years, with little extra cost.

The DS is absolutely destroying the PSP in Japan right now too, due the fact it releases more software over there, they suffer over here because of that. The PSP sales will drop off though in the US and Europe once the novelty wears off, and the fact that no new games seem to be flooding the market either.

I think personally both the Xbox360 and PS3 might not do as well as they expect them too, especially 6 to 12 months after the initial releases. Sony will still rule the roost at the nd of it all though.



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