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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:10 |
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| jst interested to find out all yo'lls views on weed, cannabis, bless-bless, mariguana woteva the high is still the same. being a student social worker i hear all sorts and believe very little of it but ties in nicely with dawn of the new mental health bill.
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:15 |
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hey brownsuga
whats the new mental health bill???
i've read that bood can start you off with mental health, and its advised on askfrank not to take it if you have mental health problems running in the family.
personally i think it does affect your brain, i've been having it regularly for about 9 months now, and i've become really slow. that could be because i dont really use my brain no more, but i've not become mental!
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:28 |
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| Yes it does affect mental health. It can make u paranoid, ur reactions and speech can become slow. It could make u violent, ur health may deteriorate as it can work as an appetite suppressant. The list is probably endless
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:46 |
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| Yes it does. You haven't even begun to see the effects of that stuff. It causes Psychosis for starters in some people. In about 20 years or so, you'll probably find that alot people who have smoked alot of the stuff in life have Parkinson's disease as well. It's not very wise or healthy taking anything that even slightly affects your neurotransmitters.
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:52 |
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| ADlady: see BLINK (black information link) website for in depth info v. interesting as it some believe its going to target us BME especially males as they are said to b @ the highest risk of having mental health probs
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:55 |
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so yur saying it can cause both mild and profound effects short and l/t?
but again doesnt that depend on you mental capacity 2 cope. facetygal
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:56 |
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| brown suga whats bme???
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:01 |
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| my bad, Black minority ethnic groups, social work jargon
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:15 |
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brownsuga21 wrote: my bad, Black minority ethnic groups, social work jargon
oh ok then
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:19 |
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can you tell me what mental health problems is?
because my dad says he has mental health problems to show that he is unfit to work so he doesn't have to pay maintenence for me and my sisters. my mum says that he could just go to the doctors, say that he's depressed which is ment to be a mental health problem? is this true? i thought that they'd be chained to beds, or they could be dangerous to themselves or others? whats the proper definition for depression? because if what my mum says is true, then half the country has a mental health illness, which doesn't sound right to me!?
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:20 |
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who cares ..... it good for me and i dont have to take that dumd medication
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 22:05 |
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brownsuga21 wrote: so yur saying it can cause both mild and profound effects short and l/t?
but again doesnt that depend on you mental capacity 2 cope. facetygal
Nope. That's the reason people use to justify their continuance of the drug. I.e it won't happen to me attitude. Same can be said for E's and speed.
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Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 04:20 |
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brownsuga21 wrote: so yur saying it can cause both mild and profound effects short and l/t?
but again doesnt that depend on you mental capacity 2 cope. facetygal
Mental capacity to cope with what exactly? I know I can more or less cope with anything that life throws at me mentally, I can be pushed to a very high limit. But if I take that sh*t long enough the defenses that I have to deal with things mentally will start to weaken. Also a person could have underlying problems that they know nothing about. They start taking that sh*t the problems will surface to the forefront, on a mental and physical level.
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Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 04:34 |
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ADLayD wrote: can you tell me what mental health problems is?
because my dad says he has mental health problems to show that he is unfit to work so he doesn't have to pay maintenence for me and my sisters. my mum says that he could just go to the doctors, say that he's depressed which is ment to be a mental health problem? is this true? i thought that they'd be chained to beds, or they could be dangerous to themselves or others? whats the proper definition for depression? because if what my mum says is true, then half the country has a mental health illness, which doesn't sound right to me!?
There are different levels of mental health which ranges from people walking around aimlessly talking to themself, or for the more extreme where they do need to be locked up for fear of hurting themself or the public. Yes it's true anyone can say they have mental health problems, but the way it will actually be confirmed is by a mental health social worker doing a full assessment on that person. If the social worker confirms u have a mental health problem u will then be branded for the rest of ur life, and it will go on all ur records. So if ur mum wants to prove ur dad is lieing she can say she wants him to have a full psychic evaluation. Normal doctors cannot diagnose a person with mental health, and out of sheer laziness will instantly say the symptoms a person has is either stressed related or depression, then sign a prescription for happy pills. Thats why a lot of mental health people go untreated because no one bothered to check them properly.
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Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 12:54 |
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yes depression can be server enough to be classed as a mental health problem in some people.
wrt weed, the people who should take the most care are those with schizophreniacs in their families as it does have a tendency to increase the likely hood of the smoker getting it....
or they could be just flipping the stats and more people who are schizo smoke weed... or all weed smokers turn schizo... potatoes potaaatoes.
And i thought weed was an appetite stimulant that is why the british government are trying to decriminalise it so that they can be leaders with regards to clinical trials as it does have it's uses especially with cancer pain, and multiplesclerosis sufferers
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Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 13:59 |
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I swear that I'm absolutely stunned by all the people that memorize all the crap they hear and read and believe it, without no experience whatsoever. It leads me too want to write a paper about "memory verses thought".
I know a schizophrenic who's voices only stop when they smoke pot. Go figure.
Schizophrenia isn't genetic either, that is a myth or better yet a lie, god help us if they start making us paranoid about things that make people money, like drugs, food, etc, etc. 1 in 3 people suffer from mental health problems at some point in there life. Believe me, more people would have that problem if it was genetic.
Here a clue,
Smoking pot when young
When brain hasn't fully developed
Will lead to the brain being retarded in some areas of growth, especially where it involves memory, thought, conscious expansion (learning), areas of concentration etc, etc..
You know, just like how smoking cigs stunts your growth.
Or the same way too much drink f**ks up your liver.
But it doesn't matter what drug it is, foreign chemicals in the brain especially before it has fully developed will cause damage. Even Anti-depressants.
Why do you think most people develop Schizophrenia in adultescence, too much crap in the body, so the brain doesn't develop as it should. i.e in some cases some chemicals aren't produced enough in the brain which might lead to that brain having some sort of chemical imbalance. Which could lead to Manic Depression, Psychosis, Depression, Schizophrenia and various other bi-polar disorders.
It's no coincidence that it's happening more and more in the 21st century. Your chances of deveoping a mental illness increases when smoking pot or any other drug between the ages of 12 to 25. When smoking pot or taking other psychotropic drugs your thought becomes more lucid, even to the point of hearing and seeing things. You'll probably find that people who smoke pot have more lucid dreams also. The thing is after awhile even when you're awake, your subconscious and conscious thoughts are still lucid. That what happens when you hear voices, and sometimes you stay that way and you lose touch of reality, because your voices and visions are the first things that grasp your attention before the real world. A mild symptom of this is called paranoia. But the only time you should hear voices and see images is when you're asleep. If you mess things up in your brain then you'll be seeing them when you're awake as well. And you'll be called nuts by the Sun and Daily Mail.
The I'm lucky I have better genes is a dangerous route to go down. Hitler's minnons tried to play that game as well. They lost.
It's as simple as this, if you're not responsible with your body, your body will f**k up.
Last edited on Friday January 28th, 2005 14:15 by Peacemaker
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Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 14:33 |
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Peacemaker wrote: brownsuga21 wrote: so yur saying it can cause both mild and profound effects short and l/t?
but again doesnt that depend on you mental capacity 2 cope. facetygal
Nope. That's the reason people use to justify their continuance of the drug. I.e it won't happen to me attitude. Same can be said for E's and speed.
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Posted: Monday January 31st, 2005 09:25 |
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ADlayD- a mental health prob can be defined on many levels. depression can be diognosed as mild or clinical, clinical being the worst as it can sometimes mean being on strong anti-depresant medication which can affect our capacity to work. mild depression is what we all can experiance without the need for medication, take myself for e.g my bf is puttin me under serious pressure aswell as my studies but i am far from being clinically depressed.
post natal depression and other such forms are equally as serious as they can lead to being put on medication, as most forms can, but to answer your question if your dad is off work he has to be clinically depressed which is a mental health symptom.
he can sign as being incapacitated meaning unfit to work and claim benefits which can equal a p/t income, some of this money should come to you aslong as u r U16 or in f/t HE.
i hope this is helpfull
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Posted: Monday January 31st, 2005 09:40 |
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FGAL- our capacity depends on what we can handle emotionally, like u hav handled most of what life has thrown your way, and i rate u 4 that u r a strong minded person. but believe it or not we all hav underlining MH probs we r not robots or cold hearted insensitve people, we were not made that way.
but i jst dont think its fair to blame MH probs on weed neither to say it leads to stronger drugs, weed effects our chemical balances but smokers dont run out to rob a man, burgal a house, or corner shop to get a fix, its not like thaT, SORRY, BUT Im JST TRYNIN TO LOOK AT THE BIG PIC.
our capacity is weighed on how we handle wot god dishes out and the obstacles that r put down in between, if we cant handle life in general we hav no buisness bunnin weed, or any mind imbalancing drug.
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