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 Posted: Tuesday January 25th, 2005 21:02

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being a weed smoker myself which i am not at all ashamed to admitt neither am i promoting it, but have been smoking since i was 17 now 23, poigniant bcuz i am a f/t student who has successfully reached my 2nd year.

i hav neva had the earge nor harboured any curiosity to experiment with stronger drugs, im strictly a herbalist.  or is it jst me  confused3


men feel free to comment,  i wanted this as an open disscussion but dont watch that

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 Posted: Tuesday January 25th, 2005 21:38

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naa as as ex weed head myself I can honstly say it depends on you

I never taken any harder drugs

and I havent smoked a spliff since 2k1

 



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 Posted: Tuesday January 25th, 2005 21:49

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I dont get it...why smoke weed? What sorta feeling does one derive from it? Happiness?

I'm not having a go, but can someone who's done it before explain to me...



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 01:43

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It depends on the person and how strong their mind is.

I know people who've kicked thier crack habit (or were pretty convincing) after years....and then I know people who can't miss a day without playing the lottery.


Weed has been a substance of choice for me ever since I was 11...especially since I don't drink anymore.

I found it better than any type of asprine for head-aches...better than any type of pain-killer for work or athletic injuries.

In my opinion, Stickey-Ickey is a cure-all if one ever existed.

But I don't "need" it and have found myself doing without for months if I'm anticipating a piss-test for work.




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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 10:43

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Yeah, it does lead to stronger drugs, to me anyway.



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 11:40

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I don't think it necessarily leads to stronger drugs. It did for me, but then I was a curious youngster. Of all drugs weed is the most beneficial because it can make you think. I don't use it anymore but there are people close to me who do and they are good people. By comparison, the one heroin user I know used to be a really nice person but is now a giant morass of negativity.



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 14:54

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stronger drugs

hmmm

I think weed is a strong drug

I have never taken it, but i know a few close to me that do

they wake up they want a spliff, every 4 hours , memory loss

and yes ciggis are worse, but thats not the point, we do not need harsh stimulants to make us happy, relaxed etc, I don't even drink coffee, my high is music and dancing

plus it costs a lot of money 
 

now if it cured cancer then maybe........... otherwise it is useless

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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 17:33

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I think weed in itself is bad enough if you abuse it. there has long been a link associating cannabis with psychosis and I have seen it happen to a couple of people with my own eyes. so I don't care who says weed is harmless...its a lie. I dont care who smokes it down just don't delude yourself:

check this link out:

http://www.healthtalk.ca/psychosis_12012004_7023.php

With regards to the question I think that sometimes it can lead to harsher things with people who are open to experimentation, have addictive personalities and a void to fill in their lives. I have seen this too.



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 17:36

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I dont get it...why smoke weed? What sorta feeling does one derive from it? Happiness?

I'm not having a go, but can someone who's done it before explain to me...

 

Do you think people would take drugs if it made them feel bad? I think the intiial drug taking/alcohol whatver produces good feelings thats why they are so popular.



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 20:56

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Sooofresh wrote:
stronger drugs

I think weed is a strong drug

I have never taken it, but i know a few close to me that do

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How close?

Maybe you keep them close just to get that "contact buzz" on the cheap.



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:12

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i used to drink heavily a few years ago, and realised what it was doing to my insides so i spend about a year trying to quit. the longest i lasted was 2months. during this time i tried weed, being 17 at the time. and i realised that with me affects of weed was so much better than alcohol. i guess i was bored of the alcohol buzz, and liked a new buzz. also with alcohol, i used to get really rowdy and violent. but with weed i kept my mouth shut, and just enjoyed the thoughts going through my mind.

weed helped me slowly get off alcohol, actually replaced it almost. i still drink abit but not everyday like before. and i dont really have weed that much.

with my own personal experiences if i had weed all the time, and was used to the buzz,and didnt find it anything about it so special no more, then i probably would go on to another drug to feel the "1st buzz" again with something else, but it would jus be a different type of buzz. 



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 21:16

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I dont think it the smoking of weed that leads to stronger substance abuse but, the motive behind smoking it. If you are taking it to get escape reality and problems, then yes over time i think that one may become fed up with the same old buzz and then may go on to the stonger stuff. If weed is taken soley as a recreational drug like alcohol then the answer is no. I personally know people that have been smoking weed for years and they dont appear to be suffering from mental health problems



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 Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 22:20

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I personally know people that have been smoking weed for years and they dont appear to be suffering from mental health problems

 

this is true, but the smoking of weed regularly will increase the chances of you suffering from a psychotic episode. visit  Maudsley and you will see what I am talking about.



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 Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 08:11

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Ahmaad wrote: Sooofresh wrote:
stronger drugs

I think weed is a strong drug

I have never taken it, but i know a few close to me that do

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blkwonder...yeah.


How close?

Maybe you keep them close just to get that "contact buzz" on the cheap.


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 Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 15:16

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: I personally know people that have been smoking weed for years and they dont appear to be suffering from mental health problems 

 
weed is cool in MODERATION but if you abuse it..like everything else it becomes bad for you


and weed IS addictive

I now people that "cluck" when they cant get ahold of their weedman

Ive banned bunning in my crib anyway as I cant stand the smell

I had a mate who used to do scams and stuff and always had nuff money

he used to bun a quater of "high grade" in the evening and drink around a bottle of jd a night

one day he flipped out and started jumpin on people cars ect ect

he called my up and asked to come and get him

but when I arrived he didnt recognize who I was..

he did cool ff in the end but he aint the same no more

dont go out or nuffin just says in.

so basically If you mind aint ready then weed can trigger off sh*t.

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 Posted: Friday January 28th, 2005 16:05

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I tried weed twice, first time it made me violently ill and I was out for two whole days.  My body couldn't take it. 

Second time, I tried it because I was curious to know why my body reacted to it the way it did.  This time around was actually pure jokes I remember taking two or three pulls and with in half a minute it hit me, couldn't get up I felt like my head was way too big for my body and if I tried to get up my body wouldn't be able to support my head. So I sat there in my couch all night waiting for the effect to go.  Trust me its not a very nice feeling, to have no control over your mind.

I do think it affects people differently, and if you don't feel the immediate effect and you abuse it in the long run i believe it will have some effect on your mind, it's too powerful not too. 



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 Posted: Saturday January 29th, 2005 07:50

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I can't speak for weed leading to harder drugs, all i know is my dad smoked many a day and wasn't a crack head or psycho.  Now i knew people in school who started on ciggies which led them to weed, so another question could be does smoking ciggies lead to weed? (Unintentional rhyme!!)  like someone else said, it depends on the person and how weak they are.  People have different levels of tolerance for certain substances.  Example:  My mothers  uncle is a real rummy, always a drink in his hand, could sniff out a bar in the middle of the sahara.  He is in his sixties.  He took out my now brother in law on his stag night and my bro in law could not keep up, simply because my uncle had been drinking long before my bro in law had been alive!!  Not talking bad about my mums uncle coz he is my favourite one (kinda looks like an older version of snoop so i call him uncle snoop!!)  I know that was a little off topic, but i just wanted to make the point that not everyone who smokes weed ends up a crack headed psycho, but some people can only handle some things.  I know for a fact my dad was way more tolerable when he was weeded.



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 Posted: Saturday January 29th, 2005 08:57

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Some more points to add

A few people here have mentiond older family memeber ect ect smoking.

weird thing is these are the most sensible smokers out there and most have been bunning since "back home".

Indeed I too have uncles who blaze but Ive noticed they never smoke skunk or purple haze as they see them as unatural

think it depends why you smoke weed

If you smoking weed to get a huge knock out buzz (like skunk) then eventually you probably gonna get used to is and seek harder things.

I know quite a few people who have progressed to a "sniff" on the weekends who just used to smoke weed

 



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 Posted: Saturday January 29th, 2005 09:38

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Personally i don't see the big deal about weed,..the thing should be legalised,..it's been around for years and there is no scientific fact that it's bad for you.........

I'ts actually been used for medicinal use,..so it's no biggie! 

Half my family smoke it and they have no intentions of giving it up,.....nor has it led to any harder drugs,..basically it all depends on their mind set and willpower,...

But i have noticed when my cousin tried to give up the weed,...she got proper moody and started chucking chairs all over the place( mad in it?) it was'nt long before she started smoking it again.

I don't really like the smell of it,....but people who do smoke it in my house get chucked outside in the garden,..not really my thing!!! but thier entitled to do what they want,. just as long it does'nt upset my household.



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 Posted: Saturday January 29th, 2005 16:05

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No weed its self does not lead to stronger drugs.  If you smoke weed for along time you will form a habit of its own but it wouldnt progress to something eles.  You wouldnt just smoke weed and then after years get the yearning to smoke crack.  It also depends on the type of people you are around and weither or not you are a follower or not.  to me crack and strong drugs are like an STD.  Everyone that smokes crack started with weed or alcohol but not all or even most people that smoke weed will eventually smoke crack.  Just like everyone who got a STD got it through sex but not all people or most that have sex will catch an STD.



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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that weed is a gateway drug and it certainly does lead those with addictive personalities to harder drugs...no doubt..



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blksmokehmmmm..... i want to try mushrooms



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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that weed is a gateway drug and it certainly does lead those with addictive personalities to harder drugs...no doubt..
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No doubt huh?

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Yeah I think It does, it might take longer for some but eventually it will. It starts out with occasional weed smoken, to chronical weed smoking, to weed with crack sprinkled, to crack( or heroin). But I've seen the process first hand, to a dude I used to hang out with, quite kid and started smokin weed cuz he wanted to try it. He kept going weed is a herbal drug and I can handle, and then all of a sudden I hear he pushes crack and smokes it.

I stopped smocking weed for personal reasons and bad experiences but trust me it's addictive. But some people can't get hold of themselves, and go too far down. He's in Jail or Juvi for traficing, just feel bad for his mom( single mom) she was very sad.



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 Posted: Tuesday February 8th, 2005 17:01

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No I don't think weed leads to stronger drugs actually I think drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes leads to stronger drugs. I'm pretty sure if you ask most weedheads whether what they was doing before they started smoking weed, chances are they were smoking or drinking. In most cases they were probably introduced to weed while smoking or drinking at a party. The government along with the media would like you to believe weed leads to harder drugs. Nicotine and alcohol is a drug (so don't get it twisted) which is easily attainable and it's usually the first drug that many people use before going on to harder stuff. The government wont tell you that because alcohol and cigarettes are legal and they make billions of dollars because of it.



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