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 Posted: Tuesday January 11th, 2005 12:09

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There are meat eaters, vegetarians, and vegans.
Vegetarians drink milk and eat dairy products.
Vegans eat no animal products. By eating animal
flesh or drinking their body fluids, one ingests
their hormones. Vegetarians often drink more
milk and eat more dairy than meat eaters. Vegans
eat no animal hormones.

There are two reasons not to eat animals. Many
people become vegetarians out of compassion to
animals who do not deserve to die in pain by a
human knife.

The second reason, human health, far outweighs
the first. By eating animal products, one shows
no compassion to the human body. By eating dirty
fuel consisting of cholesterol, saturated animal
fat, and relatively large amounts of sulfur-based
amino acids (methionine, homocysteine), one places considerable stress upon the body's cardiovascular and immune systems.

Here's a list of carnivorous myths aka the ten carnivore commandments:

1) Meat eaters have lower rates of heart disease
than do vegetarians.

2) Meat eating men make for better lovers because
they have higher rates of the male sex hormone.

3) Meat eaters have lower rates of all of the
major diseases than do vegetarians.

4) Vegetarians have higher mortality rates than
meat eaters.

5) A vegetarian diet is not appropriate for a
pregnant woman or nursing mother.

6) Children born to vegetarians are smaller
than children born to meat eaters.

7) Meat eaters obtain more vitamins and nutrients
than vegetarians, because the animals they eat also consume vegetables.

8) It is a proven fact that vegetarians have higher rates of heart disease than meat eaters.

9) Meat eaters have lower rates of diabetes than
do vegetarians.

10) Meat eaters have lower rates of breast cancer than do vegetarians.

ONE BY ONE, LET'S DISPEL THOSE MYTHS
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1) Meat eaters have lower rates of heart disease
than do vegetarians.

"Significant atherosclerosis is rare in peoples
whose diet over the life span is predominantly
vegetarian and low in calories, total lipids,
saturated lipids and cholesterol."

Nutrition and Athersclerosis by Louis Katz. 1958
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2) Meat eating men make for better lovers because
they have higher rates of the male sex hormone.

"The study measured testosterone levels in 696
Oxford University men. Of the study participants,
233 were vegan (ate no animal products) and 237
were vegetarian (ate milk and dairy products).
The remaining 237 subjects were men who ate meat
on most days of the week...vegans had higher
testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat
eaters."

British Journal of Cancer, 83(1), July 2000
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3) Meat eaters have lower rates of all of
mankind's major diseases than do vegetarians.

"Scientific data suggest positive relationships
between a vegetarian diet and reduced risk for
several chronic degenerative diseases and conditions,
including obesity, coronary artery disease,
hypertension, diabetes mellitus, and some
types of cancer."

Journal of American Dietetic Association, 11/97, 97(1)
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4) Vegetarians have higher mortality rates than
meat eaters.

"Vegetarians often have lower mortality rates
from several chronic degenerative diseases than
do non vegetarians."

British Medical Journal, 1996; 313
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5) A vegetarian diet is not appropriate for a
pregnant woman or nursing mother.

"Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the
life cycle, including during pregnancy and lactation."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994;59(suppl):1176S-1181S.
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6) Children born to vegetarians are smaller
than children born to meat eaters.

"Vegan diets can meet the nutrient and energy needs
of pregnant women. Birth weights of infants born
to well nourished vegetarian women have been shown
to be similar to birth-weight norms and to birth
weights of infants of non vegetarians."

Pediatrics. 1989;84
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7) Meat eaters obtain more vitamins and nutrients
than vegetarians, because the animals they eat also
consume vegetables.

"Vegetarian diets offer disease protection benefits
because higher concentration of antioxidants such
as vitamins C and E, carotenoids, and phytochemicals."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1996;63(suppl)
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8) It is a proven fact that vegetarians have higher
rates of heart disease than meat eaters.

"Mortality from coronary artery disease is lower in
vegetarians than in non vegetarians."

British Medical Journal, 1994; 308
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9) Meat eaters have lower rates of diabetes than
do vegetarians.

"Type 2 diabetes mellitus is less likely to be a
cause of death in vegetarians than non vegetarians."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1988;48(suppl)
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10) Meat eaters have lower rates of breast cancer than
do vegetarians.

"Breast cancer rates are lower in populations that
consume plant based diets."

American Cancer Society Cancer Facts and Figures, 1994

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 Posted: Tuesday January 11th, 2005 12:13

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If you eat eggs, there are some things you should know about eggs. First of all, what is an egg? The word “egg� is defined as: 1a. A female reproductive cell; ovum. B. the round or oval reproductive body of various animals, such as birds, reptiles, fishes, and insects, containing the embryo and covered with a shell or membrane. 2. A hen’s egg used as food. ]. American Heritage Dictionary (2001), 4th edition, pg. 274

So for those of us who don’t or didn’t know it, at least consciously, eggs pertain to female ovum. The egg contains bio-genetic makeup of its parent organism and to know something about that egg, we must know something about the progenitor of that egg.

Now most humans eat eggs that are not from their species, which is a very unintelligent thing to do. Most eggs eaten by humans come from fowl or birds, who have a very different bio-genetic and molecular structural makeup than humans. It was customary for those growing up on farms to get their eggs from hens. But today, most eggs consumed today are derived from chicken, a grafted animal that is coprophagous (dung eater) by nature. And remember, you ARE what you EAT! Eating eggs will most certainly change or alter your bio-chemical, genetic, and molecular makeup as a human and make you susceptible to a host of unnatural diseases and pathologies, especially of a sexual reproductive nature.

Since the parent organism of the eggs commonly consumed today is coprophagous by nature, those who eat eggs are also being programmed on a chemical, biological, and genetic level to be coprophagous. Human beings today actually eat dung or feces. When you eat a whole (though dead) creature such as a lobster, shrimp, or crab, are you not eating their entrails?

Often times we hear people say “so and so is full of $hit!� But you know what? Most people are “full of $hit� literally, especially meat eaters.

Eating eggs causes a host of diseases and pathologies. Eggs play a pivotal role in all female reproductive diseases, e.g. fibroid tumors, uterine cysts, breast cancer and tumors, menstrual irregularities, etc. Also, since these chicken eggs that many people eat are STERILIZED or infertile due to the sterilization process to prevent them from rotting (decaying), when women and men eat these eggs, they are in fact blindly helping to impair their own sexual fertility and potency. This is very true! Everything you eat negatively or positively, natural or unnatural, affects you and your entire being. So yes, eggs play a role in infertility and impotence.

Eggs also play a role in high cholesterol. Believe the hype on that.

Egg consumption is implicated in prostate woes. Some men who frequent bars eat a boiled egg (with salt) and drink beer at the same time - a very foolish thing to do under the notion that eating eggs make a man more sexually potent. Please! When have you seen a jackrabbit in the wild eat eggs to make him more sexually active and potent? Never! Eggs can’t compare to certain herbs such as Yohimbe, Horny Goat Weed, Damiana, and Muira Puama.

You should also know that since corporate farms (which are really high rise buildings) have genetically engineered their own birds for evil corporate purposes, they are also producing and marketing the eggs from these Frankenstein creatures. These Frankenstein chicken creatures are pumped with batches of synthetic female estrogen hormone to make the creatures develop bigger and to also produce more eggs. The scary thing to me is that since the companies have the patent on these genetically engineered creatures, they have the rights on their byproducts – the eggs. Therefore, these genetically-engineered chicken-like creatures (who don’t have feet, feathers, or beaks) produce eggs that are naturally sterile and devitalized and will not hatch under any circumstances. These are the eggs many of you are eating today and don’t have a clue about!

Those of us who grew up on farms know that original chicken or hen eggs are brown, not white. The white eggs are the sign of a mutant creature or strange fertilization and/or egg production environment. These corporate farms put their chicken creatures (natural and unnatural chickens) in rooms where there is light 24 hours so that these creatures will lay eggs throughout the day. This process is unnatural as farm chicken and hens usually lay eggs right before sunrise. Alvenia Fulton (Dick Gregory’s health mentor) exposed this fact many years ago when it was not the norm for a black person to be a vegetarian or vegan.

If you are confused about food additives and ingredients, purchase the book “A Consumer’s Dictionary of Food Additives� by Ruth Winter, M.S. [ISBN # 0-609-80366-2] and take it with you when you go shopping. Either leave it in your car or carry it around in your purse (if you’re a woman).

And for the women (and men) who still perform the archaic function of cooking, when your recipes call for eggs, use “Egg Replacer� instead of eggs. Egg Replacer is an alternative non-animal and non-egg product that is available at most good health food stores.

A last note on our subject – eggs are, by nature, reptilian food. It is common for snakes, lizards, and alligators to eat eggs. I don’t want to get spooky on you out there in the reading audience, but the reptilian beings (aliens) out there who are running things on planet Earth, have many of the earth’s population (especially the Western world) eating meat, dairy products, and eggs to lower their frequency and to also break down their immune system, keeping the population in a confused and diseased state and making it very easy for these reptilian beings to control humans. The reptilian takeover of the planet was shown in the 1980s television series “V�, and the alien control of American society was themed in the movie “They Live� (1989), which you might want to re-watch. Whether you believe in this or not, eggs are most definitely reptilian food and NOT human food (victual).

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 Posted: Tuesday January 11th, 2005 14:25

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thanks for that! i am actually a happier person now that i know this all of that.

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 Posted: Tuesday January 11th, 2005 18:30

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He eats meat



Him too, he just finished a big ol steak...

 



This guy eats Tofu and beans with his soya milk.

 

I noticed that in all your "facts" you didnt mention that vegans have bad breath and their food is boring and nasty.  Meat tastes good and we have bodies DESIGNED to eat it.  We have teeth for tearing it and we produce enzymes to digest it.

We are OMNIVORES not herbivores like a damn rabbit!!

Also my people and all those from regions around mine have herded and farmed cattle and goat for thousands of years.  WE EAT MEAT. 

This vegan nonsense is some fad that isnt anything to do with my part of Africa... I think it belongs in the west, no in the USA, no In California, no in Hollywood.... Lets leave it there where it belongs with all the other charlatans and gurus...

Health my arse!

 

 



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 Posted: Tuesday January 11th, 2005 22:25

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This guy eats Tofu and beans with his soya milk.

 

I noticed that in all your "facts" you didnt mention that vegans have bad breath and their food is boring and nasty.  Meat tastes good and we have bodies DESIGNED to eat it.  We have teeth for tearing it and we produce enzymes to digest it.

We are OMNIVORES not herbivores like a damn rabbit!!

Also my people and all those from regions around mine have herded and farmed cattle and goat for thousands of years.  WE EAT MEAT. 

This vegan nonsense is some fad that isnt anything to do with my part of Africa... I think it belongs in the west, no in the USA, no In California, no in Hollywood.... Lets leave it there where it belongs with all the other charlatans and gurus...

Health my arse! 


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I always thought that monkeys were vegan by nature, even drunk ones.  As far as bad breath, that's a result of indigestion and constipation.  A thorough detox along with a natural diet will curb that.  Myrrh is an excellent herb for those unfortunate folks that suffer from halitosis.  Out of all animals, the primate has the closest digestive system to humans.  Guess what, most are vegan, muscular, and strong!  As a monkey you should know that.  Animals that are non-carnivorous have the longest life spans and have more strength and endurance than carnivores.  Among vegan animals are the gorilla, elephant, rhino, horse, and ox.  The carnivore is just more vicious and violent, something that humanity doesn't need anymore of.

Just because you can digest animals does not mean you are supposed to. You can digest cardboard. That does not mean you should eat it. And it also does not mean that you digest it well.

Physiology of Plant-Eaters vs. Meat-Eaters
adapted from What's Wrong with Eating Meat,
by Barbara Parham, ©Ananda Marga Publications, 1979







Meat-Eater

Plant-Eater

Human Beings


has claws

no claws

no claws


no pores on skin; perspires through tongue to cool body

perspires through millions of pores on skin

perspires through millions of pores on skin


sharp, pointed front teeth to tear flesh

no sharp, pointed front teeth

no sharp, pointed front teeth


no flat back molar teeth to grind food

has flat, back molar teeth to grind food

has flat, back molar teeth to grind food


small salivary glands in the mouth (not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits)

well-developed salivary glands, needed to pre-digest grains and fruits

well-developed salivary glands, needed to pre-digest grains and fruits


acid saliva; no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains

alkaline saliva; much ptyalin to pre-digest grains

alkaline saliva; much ptyalin to pre-digest grains


strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest tough animal muscle, bone, etc.

stomach acid 20 times weaker than that of meat-eaters

stomach acid 20 times weaker than that of meat-eaters


intestinal tract only 3 times body length, so rapidly decaying meat can pass out of body quickly

intestinal tract several times body length (plant foods decay slowly so can take their time to pass through the body)

intestinal tract several times body length



in the table above. The human digestive system, tooth and jaw structure, and bodily functions are completely different from carnivorous animals. As in the case of the anthropoid ape, the human digestive system is twelve times the length of the body; our skin has millions of tiny pores to evaporate water and cool the body by sweating; we drink water by suction like all other vegetarian animals; our tooth and jaw structure is vegetarian; and our saliva is alkaline and contains ptyalin for predigestion of grains. Human beings clearly are not carnivores by physiology -- our anatomy and digestive system show that we must have evolved for millions of years living on fruits, nuts, grains, and vegetables.

Furthermore, it is obvious that our natural instincts are non-carnivorous. Most people have other people kill their meat for them and would be sickened if they had to do the killing themselves. Instead of eating raw meat as all flesh-eating animals do, humans boil, bake, or fry it and disguise it with all kinds of sauces and spices so that it bears no resemblance to its raw state. One scientist explains it this way: "A cat will salivate with hungry desire at the smell of a piece of raw flesh but not at all at the smell of fruit. If man could delight in pouncing upon a bird, tear its still-living limbs apart with his teeth, and suck the warm blood, one might conclude that nature provided him with meat-eating instinct. On the other hand, a bunch of luscious grapes makes his mouth water, and even in the absence of hunger he will eat fruit because it tastes so good."

Scientists and naturalists, including the great Charles Darwin who gave the theory of evolution, agree that early humans were fruit and vegetable eaters and that throughout history our anatomy has not changed. The great Swedish scientist von Linné states: "Man's structure, external and internal, compared with that of the other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables constitute his natural food."

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 Posted: Wednesday January 12th, 2005 03:12

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You're right....vegetarianism isn't an African tradition.


Humans were made to eat both meats AND vegetables...not just one or the other.

If we were made strictly for vegetables then we'd have several stomachs and would chew cud like horses and cows.


Just raise your animals on proper feed, kill it quickly, drain the blood out of the meat like the Muslims and Jews do it, and cook it properly and you'll be alright.


If you don't wanna wind up a sissy or weakling...you better eat some meat son.



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What monkeys do you know?  Some monkeys and apes are even canibals!! They do eat small animals from time to time and anyway funny guy I am a human.  Monkey is a SCREEN NAME.

Lets discuss humans now eh?

We cant DIGEST cardboard... we can eat it and it will pass through us but the component molecules of cardboard will not be taken up by our bodies and processed by our livers to form the building blocks of our bodies...  A good tender lamb chop will though, or a tasty chicken wing.  mmmmmmmmmmm

I will say again.

We are OMNIVORES.

As Ahhmad has said, not herbivores, not carnivores but omnivores.

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Incidently Ahhmad, people in Southern Africa do bleed and drain the animal when killing it... all this without an outsiders religion to teach us (I have done it myself in my youth)... how did we ever manage!!



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Incidently Ahhmad, people in Southern Africa do bleed and drain the animal when killing it... all this without an outsiders religion to teach us (I have done it myself in my youth)... how did we ever manage!!
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Probably some trader got lost on his route

....and wound up down there.

They gave HIM a little food and water and he gave THEM some advice on how to kill a chicken!






Truth Seeker:

If being a vegetarian...or a vegan..is so much healthier, why do Hindus over in India die of more diseases and at earlier ages than us big beef eaters here in the West?




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I do hope for your sake you were joking Ahhmad.  That must have been a joke.  If on the other hand, your opinion of African people is so low I really feel bad for you.



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 Posted: Wednesday January 12th, 2005 18:50

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blkdemon Negro you know I was just playing.....




But if you were that sensative why did you bring it up in the first place?

I'm just sitting here trying to figure out why Truth Seeker is seeking to take my meat away from me.

Twasn't even thinking about African practices.



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my bad... was wound up over reading other nonsense and in a bad mood at the time... water under the bridge.

How can he take your meat away?  Its suicide to come between a man and his food... especially if you look like Dhalsim and I look like Balrog HA HA HA



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