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Posted: Wednesday December 8th, 2004 16:37 |
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Recent medical report suggests that 19 million adult in Uk is currently under a prescription of one form or another anti depressants.
That is an incredible number of one in every 3 people being under these pills. What is wrong with life in this society that makes peopleso depressed? Is it the problem of the environment or the problem of the people?
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Posted: Wednesday December 8th, 2004 16:40 |
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A report suggests? Surely with something like prescriptions we would know or we wouldnt. There must be some kind of a database?
Also 19million is more than a third of us. One in 3 people I know on happy pills? 
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Posted: Wednesday December 8th, 2004 16:51 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4071145.stm
GPs get new anti-depressant rules
Prozac is included in the new guidelinesDoctors have been issued with new guidance on the prescribing of antidepressants.
The National Institute for Clinical Excellence called on doctors to exercise more caution in prescribing the drugs.
Separate advice from the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority demanded stronger warnings on drugs such as Prozac and Seroxat.
It says advice on potential withdrawal symptoms should be reinforced.
 The group of people who will benefit from these drugs is smaller than some GPs think 
Andrew McCulloch, Mental Health Foundation
'I'm on a drug I don't need' One woman in 15 and one man in 30 are affected by depression each year.
And around 44 adults in every thousand are estimated to have an anxiety disorder.
The NICE guidelines say no type of antidepressant should be used in the initial treatment of mild depression.
But for patients with moderate to severe depression who are deemed to need antidepressants, drugs such as Prozac and Seroxat should be favoured above other types because they are less likely to be discontinued due to side-effects.
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Both belong to a family of drugs known as Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs).
In 1997, around 6.5m prescriptions were written for SSRIs. By 2002, this had risen to 13.3m.
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Send us your comments They have become increasingly popular over the last decade, as doctors considered them safer than the older tricyclic drugs which carried a high risk of overdose.
The NICE guidelines say all patients prescribed any antidepressant must be warned of possible side-effects when they stop taking the drugs, or reduce their dose.
For those patients with anxiety disorders, NICE recommends therapy, such as counselling or cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT), are the ideal treatment, with SSRIs as second-choice.
Andrew Dillon, Chief Executive of NICE, said: "These guidelines recognise that whilst medication has an important role to play in treating these conditions, there are also many effective alternatives."
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The MHRA said the analysis of both published and unpublished data by experts on the Committee on Safety of Medicines (CSM) showed "a modest increase in the risk of suicide from SSRIs compared to placebos [dummy pills]" in adults.
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Antidepressants should not first choice for mild depression
People with moderate to severe depression who require antidepressants should be given SSRIs (such as Seroxat and Prozac)
Anxiety disorders should initially be treated with therapy
Stronger warning of withdrawal symptom risk on SSRIs
The lowest dose possible should be prescribed But it added that there was good evidence that there was "no clear increase" in the risk of suicide associated with SSRIs compared to other antidepressants.
However, the MHRA said there should be offered greater monitoring as a precaution - particularly younger adults (aged 18 to 30) taking SSRIs.
Last year, it advised no SSRIs, except Prozac, should be given to under 18s after concerns the drugs were linked to suicidal thoughts in some patients.
The MHRA has also called for the lowest recommended dose to be prescribed in the majority of cases.
But people who are on SSRIs are advised not to stop taking them, or reduce their dose, without speaking to their GP.
Professor Kent Woods, Chief Executive of the MHRA, said: "The benefits of SSRIs in adults are still considered to outweigh the risk of adverse drug reactions."
Professor Louis Appleby, National Director for Mental Health, welcomed both sets of guidance.
Graham Archard, vice chair of the Royal College of GPs, said: "We welcome this guidance but GPs face a difficult dilemma when treating depression. With a chronic shortage of counselling and psychotherapy available on the NHS, GPs often feel they have little choice but to prescribe anti-depressants in mild to moderate cases.
"We urgently need more resources in place so patients can be referred for non-drug therapies."
Paul Farmer, of the mental health charity Rethink said antidepressants could give people space to tackle the issues underlying their condition, but were "not a cure".
"People should instead have access to psychological treatments and support underlying issues that lead to the anxiety," he said.
But Marjorie Wallace, Chief Executive of the mental health charity Sane, added: "Unfortunately, trained and experienced therapists are currently like gold dust and those needing therapy may have to wait many months."
A spokesman for GlaxoSmithKline, which makes the biggest-selling SSRI, Seroxat, said the new guidance clarified the use of such drugs, and added they had revolutionised the treatment of depression.
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Posted: Thursday December 16th, 2004 13:58 |
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That is an incredible number of one in every 3 people being under these pills. What is wrong with life in this society that makes peopleso depressed?
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First and formost the diet of people not only in the UK but all over the Western world is full of Omega 6 fatty foods which most dietitians know upsets the delicate chemical balance in the brain and causes many psychiatric disturbances from anxiety problems, to depression, to schizophenia.
Second, most people in this society are spoiled and have few needs to look forward to because they have most of what they need right now....so their future is hopeless in a way.
Third, many people in this society are sexually repressed and "get off" in weird ways like the internet, pornography, gambling, and religion instead of having a good ole fashion orgasm to relieve their frustration.
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Posted: Friday December 31st, 2004 00:49 |
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flow-unclever wrote:
Recent medical report suggests that 19 million adult in Uk is currently under a prescription of one form or another anti depressants.
That is an incredible number of one in every 3 people being under these pills. What is wrong with life in this society that makes peopleso depressed? Is it the problem of the environment or the problem of the people?
I just participated in a survey about this in the US. It is becoming more prevalent that some doctors are being paid by pharmaceutical companies to diagnose more people with illnesses. They over prescribe medications to them so the pharmaceutical company can gain higher profit margins, line their pockets and pay their stockholders.
I also credit this to a decline in spiritually based families in society and the lack of exercise. There are studies that prove that people with spiritual bases and /or who exercise,(all over the world) are less stressed than people who are not spiritually based or who do not exercise. They suffer from less anxiety, less depression, and less stress related health problems. Most religions have some type of stress relieving practices that range from meditation to prayer. Exercise actually raising the level of endorphins or happy chemicals in your body which uplifts your mood. So, as people are disregarding spirituality and/or becoming less active, the depression rate increases. There are other factors to this equation but these are just some reasons why this is a growing epidemic.Last edited on Friday December 31st, 2004 00:52 by blaqguh
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Posted: Friday December 31st, 2004 00:59 |
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"sexually repressed and "get off" in weird ways"
The world cannot be too sexually repressed in the wake of a world-wide AIDS epidemic, but I do agree with your other comments.  Last edited on Friday December 31st, 2004 00:59 by blaqguh
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Posted: Sunday January 9th, 2005 16:27 |
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If it truly is one in three adults in the UK...then the figures in America must be much higher.
Our largely unregulated "corporate controled" health-care system.....combined with the most stressful 5 years the American public has known in recent history...and not to mention being hated around the world must surely have us stressed out more than ever.
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Posted: Friday July 8th, 2005 02:28 |
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| Antidepressants in some people work just as well as CBT and other therapies hence why it is best if you need to, to do both....one for the intense short time period and the latter for the long term. I know maybe 2 ppl who without their Antidepressants would fall apart, the seritone (ex sp) and chemical levels in their brain is either unbalanced or missing, I think it's unfair to call us a nation of junkies since they do seem to help alot of ppl. My only concern is that in some individuals it actually makes them more depressed and increases suicidal idealolgy but i'm told this is rare. I don't see alot of ppl posting on here about personal mental health, it makes me some what nervous to vioce certain views
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