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Posted: Monday May 31st, 2004 18:41 |
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I took a look on a couple of websites about milk. I read an aritcle about milk saying how cow's milk contains dead white blood cells(pus) blood and faeces. This was in America. I'm sure our milk can't be too far off. The cows are given all kinds of drugs to produce more milk than normal, which could easily end up in the milk we drink.
Yet we are constantly told that milk is good for us and we should drink it for calcium, health teeth and bones.
Is it really necessary for humans to drink cow's milk, isn't a cow's milk for her calf? after we are weaned from our mother's milk do we really need milk in our diets?
I never really liked milk unless it was mixed up so I couldn't taste it, also the smell of milk added to my dislike of it. But I enjoy Ice-cream.
I read that the cows filter blood through their udders and dead white blood cels (pus) end up in the milk among other things.
Has anyone stopped eating dairy and if so for what reasons? was there a noticeable difference, did you feel better or worse?
Has anyone else heard or read about this information?
If so has it changed your mind about milk or do you think it's just an exaggeration or you don't care as it has never done you any harm so you will continue to eat dairy?
Has anyone who used to drink cow's milk now stopped due to this information or reading something similar?
What are the non-dairy alternatives?
Any valid comments and information will be appreciated
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Posted: Monday May 31st, 2004 21:34 |
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@Sista girl
Milk creates too much mucas in the system and lets face it cows are big bulky animals and cows milk is meant for their babies....the best alternative are soya milk/rice milk etc....milk made from vegetation. Now it makes you question why milk especially cows milk is pushed on us from such an early age.....talking about you must start the day with a healthy cereal loaded down with cows milk this is to get you hooked on it from an early age.
I have never liked milk and remember dreading hot drinks from my parents as a child when they finally listened to me and realised I was not faking it they started giving me herbal teas/freshly squeezed lime/lemon in hot water etc.....until this day I do not like any beverages that contains animal milk. Even if I buy ice-cream and eat it I do so knowing that within a few hours the contents of it will leave my system....not by choice the thing just won't stay in my body.
Saying that my sister has switched from cows milk to goats milk and says she finds it much more easier to digest.
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Posted: Monday May 31st, 2004 22:35 |
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cows are big bulky animals and cows milk is meant for their babies....
thats the most sensible thing ive ever heard said about milk before LOL
also milk creates too much mucus. I agree. Since i gave up milk a few years ago my asthma an general health have improved so much!
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 14:12 |
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| I've never been a fan of milk, I really don't know how people can drink it.
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 19:13 |
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I can't keep cows milk down. It comes up like cottage cheese, my system just rejects it outright. If I fancy some cereal or fresh fruit smoothie, I use soya milk and the only one I like is So Good. There was a time back, several years ago, when a lot of black celebrities where advertising milk - remember the white moustache? Anyway, my understanding at the time was that it was a campaign to counteract the fact that black press was passing on the message that cows milk is not compatible with people of African origin. Check out some of the links below. The first one will give you a little taster. The second one goes into more details regarding why drinking milk is not so healthy for non-Europeans.
http://www.lactose.co.uk/milkallergy/
http://www.halexandria.org/dward074.htm
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 19:34 |
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@ Sista Gal
I have stopped taking milk for 2 years now and I am a lot better for it. As Mafdet so rightly says it created a lot of mucus in my system it was also very bad for my skin. I replace the lost calcium with supplements, canned salmon or lots of green vegetables.
I have not suffered for it as a recent test for Osteoporosis, (which I recommend that all women get tested for), came out all clear.
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 22:35 |
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I'm not sure what they're doing with the cows these days but back when I was a little girl I used to drink milk like it was water and would have absolutely no problems but now my system can not tolerate it... So I get calcium via other sources plus when I eat my morning cereal I'll have it with soy or rice milk.
Good topic.
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 23:39 |
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@Sista Girl
So far the message clearly states to stay away from this milk .Femergy.hit it on the nail...also with so many soya milk on the market with is better to digest its not hard to transform.....only today my sister who originally changed to goats milk said she has now switched to soya milk and because it didn't go well with her coffee she had chosen to actually give up coffee altogether
@Drunkenmonkey and ALL
Sometimes things are so clearly placed infront of us......we have no one but ourselves to blame for making it complicated. Makes sense to know that if a young mother is encouraged to give her baby breast milk as the best way to build up its body then obviously cows milk is best for the cows calfs. From a mothers milk I think the baby should have milk from vegetation.....you will also note that in less developed countries children continue to drink their mothers milk far longer than those in the west. Yes it is a funny site to see a big child walk up to its mother and take her breast out and start drinking the milk but these mothers continue to feed their child breast milk until they no longer produce milk....ain't nothing wrong with that. I know of someone who chose not to feed their baby breast milk because it felt uncomfortable to her....now that mother after a year has large sagging breast and is so upset that she is nowhere near her orginal bust size.....everyone told her its best for her to breast feed but to her it didn't suit her image.
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Posted: Wednesday June 2nd, 2004 00:03 |
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I have bought a carton of so good soya milk, tried it for the first time today on my cereal. I think I'll be sticking to soya from now on.
I have also purchased the book: Nutricide, The Nutritional destruction Of The Black Race by Llaila Afrika, look forward to reading it very soon.
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Posted: Wednesday June 2nd, 2004 00:24 |
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Way to go your on the way to recovery girl 
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Posted: Wednesday June 2nd, 2004 00:32 |
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Thanks mafdet
I got a long way to go,but the long term benefits will be worth it
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Posted: Thursday June 10th, 2004 16:12 |
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I have been hearing for years that many of us of African origin have a lactose intolerance and milk isn't good for our system mind you I havn't researched this myself but I have heard many of us complain of this.
It doesnt suprise me what some of you have said about the mucus in milk as most chinese dont touch milk at all they say its unclean and makes you smell.
I myself am looking for an alternative breakfast right now to cereal and milk as I find it difficult to digest first thing in morning.
I am a man who eats well and am finding it difficult to find somthing that will be easy to digest and will give me energy levels to last me well into the morning.
until i find that alternative I guess I will be stickin wid my weetabix
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Posted: Thursday June 10th, 2004 16:23 |
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Zack get some soya milk. I enjoy it on my cereal in the morning.
I've stopped having milk when i realised it just didn't stay in my system. Soya milk is a great alternative.
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Posted: Thursday June 10th, 2004 22:00 |
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yes, soya is a nice alternative to cow's milk I have recently started to use the brand "so good" its nice its sweet and creamy. it cost about £1.29. It doesn't have that horrible smell when you warm it up, unlike cow's milk.
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Posted: Thursday June 10th, 2004 22:20 |
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Try So Good, not the long life version, the one in the chilled fridge counter with the rest of cow's and goat's milk.
Weetabix is good because it has the vitamin quota (fortified). It aslo has folic acid, great for pre-pregnant/pregnant women. An alternative is fresh fruit salad. Fruit lines the stomach and fresh orange juice adds a zing to the beginning of your day. Fresh vegetable juice is good too such as Carrot juice. For Kwanzaa last year I purchased an american juicer - Jack La Lanne's Power Juicer. I am sure there are others just as good, but with this it juices so well that the residual left overs can be reused such as making carrot cake when juicing carrots.
Fresh fruit smoothies are great too mixed with soya milk. Bananas are high in energy and a natural sweetener for smoothies. The potassium found in bananas helps to regulate blood pressure and may reduce the risk of high blood pressure and stroke. Potassium is also essential for helping muscles to contract properly during exercise and reduces cramping up. I almost always eat a banana before or after I have workout.
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Posted: Friday June 11th, 2004 12:29 |
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| Thanks ladies I will be trying out the Soya milk and the other suggestions you all mentioned
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 14:44 |
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dunno what you guys are yakking and humming about cos i still love milk and will give anything for milk anyday. a cup-a day keeps me nourished with 27 vitamins plus a couple of cookies...my breakfast is made. haha
.. but i guess just like they say...my meat, your poison
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 15:32 |
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i know i can be lousy sometimes...ops u guys aint gonna like me now
...WHEREZ MA MUSTACHE?
Milk, yogurt, and cheese are sources of calcium, B vitamins and protein.It is important to get calcium while you are young. Get 2-3 servings a day.
Without calcium you will get osteoporosis.
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 16:02 |
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| now mi overstan y im is a cookie an i drunk milks toooo ok?
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 17:56 |
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 19:40 |
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runfromyourwife wrote: Well - I suppose that means all those who don't drink cows milk - dont eat cows beef.
But let's accept that cows milk is bad for humans - well me, I like milk, I need milk :-)
I love cheese, I don’t mind the occasional yogurt, and love Hagan Dazs cookies and cream but for some reason I find milk quite repulsive, I won’t even have it in my fridge just the possibility that the bottle can break and the milk can spill into any of my food is just too much. ***Issues maybe***
So here's my solution - let's keep herds of women for dairy production.
We could have women whose job it is to produce milk all year round.
I'm willing to bet that you could do away with all the expensive machinery that extracts the milk - as you find plenty of men willing to do the expressing - for free. LOL!
I don't know whether to laugh, feel insulted, or inspired by the repulsive images evoked run to the bathroom and throw up.
Watching Eastenders as I type and just imagining Ian doing the expressing is making me queasy.
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 19:46 |
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Abissinia wrote: runfromyourwife wrote: Well - I suppose that means all those who don't drink cows milk - dont eat cows beef.
But let's accept that cows milk is bad for humans - well me, I like milk, I need milk :-)
I love cheese, I don’t mind the occasional yogurt, and love Hagan Dazs cookies and cream but for some reason I find milk quite repulsive, I won’t even have it in my fridge just the possibility that the bottle can break and the milk can spill into any of my food is just too much. ***Issues maybe***
So here's my solution - let's keep herds of women for dairy production.
We could have women whose job it is to produce milk all year round.
I'm willing to bet that you could do away with all the expensive machinery that extracts the milk - as you find plenty of men willing to do the expressing - for free. LOL!
I don't know whether to laugh, feel insulted, or inspired by the repulsive images evoked run to the bathroom and throw up.
Watching Eastenders as I type and just imagining Ian doing the expressing is making me queasy.
thanks a lot rfyw for comparing us with cows
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 19:52 |
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aite peep dis
humans are the only dudes who drink milk into adulthood so we should cut that ish out!! anyways most of yall will find out yall iz lactose intolorant anywayz so just eez up off da cow juice
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 23:45 |
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| sistergirl, funny you should say that, my mum mentioned to me today in general conversation that when she was growing up in the village (Eastern Nigeria) people never bred cows for milking they were never actually milked they never drank milk until Europeans tried to introduce it to school children, they actually used to run away from them because drinking milk was an unheard of thing where we are from (at that time). She said that children used to keep look out to see when the whitemen were coming and raise the alarm and people would run screaming into the bush, they thought the milk was only meant for the calves and not humans, the whites had to drink it first to demonstrate that it was okay to drink and even then the children would cry over having to drink milk. This was coupled with the fact that they had never before seen white people and did not even know they existed.
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Posted: Tuesday July 6th, 2004 08:33 |
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to chi who wrote: ...until Europeans tried to introduce it to school children, they actually used to run away from them because drinking milk was an unheard of thing where we are from (at that time). She said that children used to keep look out to see when the whitemen were coming and raise the alarm and people would run screaming into the bush...then the children would cry over having to drink milk. This was coupled with the fact that they had never before seen white people ...
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