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Posted: Tuesday May 18th, 2004 15:40 |
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There have been a few press articles outlining the affect that a hypnotherapy session has had on people. If hypnosis is a supposed to help people to give up habits such as smoking cigarettes then why would this lead to a total mental breakdown. Have you had this kind of treatment and how did it help you?<<
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Is stage hypnosis brain washing, is it akin to other forms of hypnosis such as chanting, drumming and crowd hysteria. Who is in control, the hypnotist or the volunteers?Last edited on Tuesday May 18th, 2004 15:42 by Femergy
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Posted: Wednesday May 19th, 2004 20:56 |
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I trained in Hypnosis and specialised in past life regression.
It is impossible to hypnotise a person who doesn;t want to be subconsciously. All the people who are picked out for use in stage hypnosis are already natural born exhibitionists.
I would never be willing to show myself up in public...many people will as long as they;re the centre of attention they are happy. Using a few simple techniques it is possible to ascertain how susceptible a person is. The stage Hypnotist will quickly find his subjects very easily before the show even begins. Sometimes these people will have convinced themselves that they will experience possible negative after effects....and so do.
Hhypnosis that is used for therapeutic reasons works because it changes pre-programmed negative ideas into positive behaviours. Our subconscious mind is like a computer programme that can be re-written. I have also received hypnosis myself and been amazed at the positive results it can achieve.
I had a client once who suffered bad asthma attacks. I regressed him to a past life where he experienced being buried alive in a cave as a young boy. He died slowly suffocating over a period of time. Following the treatment this man never had another asthma attack. This does not prove the theory of reincarnation but highlights how powerful our own subconscious mind is.
Mind control that CIA etc use is another ball game altogether and does not use same methods as basic hypnosis. I know men who have been subjected to it in SAS training and Foreign Legion.
But a subject can always reject hypnosis attempts because the conscious mind if stubborn will refuse any attempt to open the doors that lead to the subconscious mind.
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Posted: Wednesday May 19th, 2004 21:02 |
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| Thnx Locsgirl -- I too am qualified. It is amazing the amount of people who do a weekend course and claim to be a hypnotherapist!! Age regression is truly profound. I worked with a client who was afraid of drowning so she had a phobia of swimming. After doing some age regression she booked swimming lessons the next day! The process can produse some profound results quite quickly. Are you in the UK? I undersand that moves are in motion to regulate the complementary therapy sector.
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Posted: Wednesday May 19th, 2004 21:12 |
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| How much do hypnotists charge to get rid of phobias or extreme fears? Does it work? Is everyone susceptible to it (hypnotism I mean)?
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Posted: Thursday May 20th, 2004 08:16 |
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| @DM . The rates can vary becauase usually one would expect at least 6 sessions to complete the treatment. This would almost always result in a discounted rate. Hourly prices per session can be between £40 - £60. These rates are typical. Treatment for phobia can and does work. The practitioner should be trained in dealing with phobias and the client, as in other cases, must want to be released from the fear that the phobia sustains.
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Posted: Thursday May 20th, 2004 08:18 |
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Is everyone susceptible to it (hypnotism I mean)? . See Locsgirl's response.
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Posted: Friday May 21st, 2004 12:01 |
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@Femergy
Oooh good you sound like a like-minded soul!
Yes I believe that changes are being made to the practise of complementary medicine but this has to be a good thing. Although there will still be people out there with excellent credentials, yet they still take innocent people for a ride!
A good friend of mine once went to a Hypnotist who was a Master of Hypnotism and I did see his qualifications. However after several sessions he persuaded her to have some Healing from him. For this he said she needed to remove her top and bra so that the Healing would reach the affected areas. As you probably know we can send Absent Healing to someone on the other side of the planet and it will work...so no need at all for nudity. He really betrayed her trust and it set her back in her goal to strengthen her self-esteem.
Yes I am in the UK...South East Kent actually.
Have you done any past life regression on anyone? What are your feelings on the subject generally?
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Posted: Friday May 21st, 2004 14:40 |
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| HI Locsgirl . I have had past life regression (very interestomg) but do regression in hypnotherapy. This has proven successful on every occasion where I am dealing with irrational behaviour and fears/phobias. It has also produced excellent results when clients want to recall/re-member how what they do today has a link to an experience(s) in their past/childhood ( I'm sure you are aware of what I am describing ) .. The experience of your friends was an unfortunate and outrageous case of malpractice. I hope the individual has been reported and named and shamed in the local press. It is hard enough trying to find a good practitioner without having to be concerned with behaviour like that. I assume she didn't do as was asked but I can imagine what the impact must have been on her. Do you have a practice or do you visit your clients?
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Posted: Saturday May 22nd, 2004 14:08 |
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@Femergy
I have my own business which I operate from my home. I only visit a client when they are ill...and cant get to me.
Essentially I operate as a Healer and Massage Therapist and Counseller/Clairvoyant. I love doing hypnotherapy but I really prefer the Healing and Bodywork therapy. I;m also bringing up two children so I;m a pretty busy person.
But out of all the therapies I have tried personally, I do believe that Hypnotherapy has been the most powerful and rewarding. I recommend the therapist who helped me to lots of my clients if they seem interested in Hypnotherapy.
When I was expecting my daughter I visited him again for some sessions on pain control in Labour. I ended up having a home birth with a labour that lasted just four hours. I had no drugs, no gas and air, just some cranial sacral massage from a close friend. Considering I hadn;t had a child for thirteen years and was considered a "mature" Mother, I put a lot of my success down to the Hypnosis I received.
Do you practise Self Hynosis yourself? I have found this to be so powerful, especially mixed with meditation techniques. Have you come across "Silva" training yet?
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Posted: Saturday May 22nd, 2004 18:49 |
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HI Locsgirl,
Yes I prectise self-hypnosis, particularly useful when wanting to shut down for sleep when the brain won't let up!! But yes, very effective for the Self.
In terms the 'Silva' technique, no I haven't heard it. I will now get on the web and do some research but tell me of your experiences.
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Posted: Sunday May 23rd, 2004 20:40 |
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@Femergy
Well I checked out "Silva" some years ago to find out what the fuss was all about! The method was devised by a Mexican radio technician called Jose Silva many years ago. He used it on his children and was amazed at how they developed educationally and psychically. He is dead now but the organisation is very big and they are still holding seminars to teach the techniques to others. Of course its very expensive.
But I could see clearly that all the techniques are basically self hypnosis with some creative visualisation thrown in. Its good that it has changed many people;s lives and definitely empowered them.
If you do decide to check out their products there is a very good book available by Jose Silva called "You The Healer". But the tape sets are an absolute con and contain limited information on technique and loads of drivel from over enthusiastic Americans about their success stories.
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Posted: Monday May 24th, 2004 17:15 |
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| I tend to teach NLP techniques to young people to empower them to ask the right questions of adults. Often times they ask the question WHY this and that.... and get a rebuke or shrugged off. I also teach them positive visualisation and some self hypnosis which has helped one child deal with pain management (growing pains!). There is a lot to be said about 21st century techniques, but often they are repackaged Africentric healing techniques and that's ok if it makes it easier for other cultures to relate to but the credit is hardly ever given to its Afrikan origins.
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Posted: Tuesday May 25th, 2004 12:40 |
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@Femergy
Agree Totally....everyone else always gets the credit.
Sounds like you are doing a very worthwhile job 
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Posted: Friday May 28th, 2004 10:58 |
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I believe in Hypnotherapy and or Hypnosis.
I was in a Job once where I hated the environment, whilst being the best performer the year before, I realised that no promotion was being placed on the table. Indeed they recuited another person to undermine my position even handing over clients to them.
At the end of a very unproductive year. The Company had it's annual U.K meeting, that year my Director decided to have us all give a Presentation on our perfomance based on Last Years objectives with that years results. My contender was the top proformer that year, I was scheduled to Present directly after him, after having the worest year. 
Having three days to prepare, I decided to use Self Hypnosis, and pondered on the matter of this possible very Public Humilation.
Every night I would undergo self Hyposis to try and conjure up ideas as to how best to give the Presentation. And each Night another idea popped into my Mind. On the last Day I gathered and collated all of them in order and placed them in a Power Point Format. 
On the Fated day, My Contender was in Full swing, boasting about how well he had done, even though he was actually sleeping with one of our biggest clients which must of helped his score rate, unfortunately his droning voice put most of the audience to sleep, coupled with the fact he did not want to leave the centre stage. 
When he finally finished. I stood up. My Director with expectant and wirly grin looked in my direction.
My first statement was: Well Done "Bob" for a very good Presentation. I 'll keep mine short and sweet. "
This brought rapturous applause from the Audience relieved that no more ear ache would happen. I could not help but thing this was more than I had asked for
Then I went into "Last Years Objectives" the ones where most had forgotten, Then in to other policies that showed that we were losing money by following a particular strategy, I also I questioned why we were interested in selling one part of our business, when one of our main buyers were interested in buying that part of our business, I put the quesiton to them "What did they see so attractive in what it was we wanted to discard ?"
I ended my Presentation with the parting words of "..........if we are to have more profitability and productivity we need to have far more Synergy within the organisation....."
Needless to say I recieved very good applause and many questions being asked by most of the Directors. The crowning moment was when the Managing Director innocently asked me "Dada...........What doe's Synergy mean??!!!" 
I have to say that the preparation of this using Self-Hypnosis really turned me on to the idea of the Power of the Mind in Finding solutions to everyday and major Problems in our lives.
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Posted: Friday May 28th, 2004 15:42 |
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How does one get started in self hypnotherapy/hypnosis, healing and bodywork therapy?
I suffer from headaches. Sometimes I find it hard to shut down and go to sleep. could these techniques also aid in speech? and help someone to relax? can they also help with feeling nervous and help with feelings of worrying and tension?
Would meditation be of nay benefit?
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 11:29 |
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| @ Dada . This is a fantastic example of being able to reframe your mindset in order to get what YOU want rather than the boss. You were able to come up with a far more innovative presentation that removed the focus on your performance to that of the company as a whole which showed you for the strategist that you are. It is amazing how the creative juices will flow once you give it the time and attention and self hypnosis can aid in this exchange with Self. I enjoyed reading your post. Peace
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 15:38 |
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 16:45 |
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Hype_o_therapy?
Interesting - the power of subconscious mind? Or a crutch for the weak of mind?
Juries out on that one
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 17:00 |
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| @ Sista Girl, If you are seeking to be trained in Hypnotherapy, there are many complimentary therapy courses that cover it. However, be wary of those courses that simply run over a weekend because the most you are likely to get out of these courses is how to do hypnosis/self-hypnosis. I trained with the Hypnotism Training Institute of Los Angeles under Gil Boyne (you can look him up on the 'net) who transformed hypnotherapy. It is really important that you train with credible schools/teachers. In terms of self-hypnosis, you can be taught this as mentioned above or you can acquire hypnosis tapes/books on the subject that will compliment your training.
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 17:09 |
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My opinion... HYPNOTHERAPY is a short-cut.
Nothing can replace the experience of suffering, understanding and overcoming a problem yourself, be it a psychological barrier or otherwise. That is the most complete "healing" you can achieve. You cannot escape your own essence. Anything else misses out some crucial steps, not least the full knowledge of "cause", "effect", and "cure".
BlackMatta.
I agree with the sentiment of your post and would add that the role of hypnotherapy is to aid in the process of getting to a point of understanding what the cause is and why the effect has manifest in the way it has. Of course, hypnotherapy is but one means of 'therapy' or healing, which depending on the "cause" and its "effect" may, in some instances, only play a part in the healing process and rightly so. Hypnotherapy is Africentric at its source and is a process of healing Africans have used from time.
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 19:34 |
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Posted: Saturday May 29th, 2004 23:05 |
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Fermergy,
I have found that honest, scrupulous soul searching produces all the answers to psychological barriers. This is just my own personal experience but what I am trying to understand is this. When do you think this cannot work, why, and can you give an example?
Also, what about question of trust. Can a subject be unknowingly abused given the nature of hypnosis?
BlackMatta.
. In simple terms, it's like a ships anchor at the bottom of the ocean, the crew tries all it can to pull up the anchor, but to no avail. Sometimes it requires another set of experts, deep sea divers, to check out what is causing it to stubbornly remain in place. You are exceptional in that you appear to be able to identify the source of your issues. This ability is available to all however not all develop it. Getting a little help to set you on your way can help in the process of self discovery on the one hand and identify olutions on the other. In terms of your other question, you mention 'abuse'and I am not sure what you mean here. I have heard of people say that they have concented to being hypnotised but felt humiliated after (stage hypnosis) this could be construed as abuse. Regarding anything more sinister, the question of trust/abuse applies to all healer/patient relationships.
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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 14:36 |
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| @ Femergy, thank you for your reply
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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 16:01 |
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| http://www.bioenergetics-society.com/whatisbio.shtml . In my training 'rage therapy' was coined 'vile energetics'. However, I have cut'n'paste the link to the founder of this kind of therapy officially known as 'Bioenergetic Analysis'. Putting it in even more day to day terms, you know how pent up you can get if don't get to go down to the gym and when you do you get to 'work out' some or all of that pent up energy, how good you feel (apart from the fact that endophines have been released)? Well there's therapy! I've seen it used in very dramatic ways, like strangulation of the therapists wrist in order to eradicate negative fix beliefs. In terms of the ship analogy, be my guest but I hold the copy right - is that a deal? . Yes ego amongst many other things can be barriers toward releasing your healing. In terms of suffering, readiness for change can be brought about by the suffering. I always seek out the purpose for my 'suffering' or discomfort as I know that a change is due!
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