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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 14:15 |
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If so what are you planning?
what diet have you chosen
what about your exercise plan?
Im planning to loose a few lbs in jan and I like a serious comitted online partner...
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 14:34 |
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My plan is 3 meals a day (no snacks), consists of protein, fruits and veg (no carbs) plus 2litres of water. I have to leave 5hrs between each meal, and the last meal I have to consume 2hrs before I go bed. Each meal is weighed and measured and I have to choose food from a selected range. The plan has been made specifically for me.
As for exercise I'm gonna utilise the gym before I leave. No weights, but I'll push myself on the cardiovasular side.
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 14:45 |
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| do you plan to detox after xmas or skip that part? Last edited on Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:11 by Black_Power
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 14:53 |
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| Well I've been off my plan for a while, so when I start back again I will automatically go into detox mode cos of the change in food. When I first did the plan the detoxing made me feel like crap, but it only lasted a week and I had lost 7lb so it was worth it.
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 15:59 |
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| Yep. I plan to go back on my Detox Diet and counselling for 2 months, hopefully comencing from the 15th of January. I'm also joining the gym in Jan, mainly to do cardio based exercies cos i'm concerned about my general fitness levels. Also taking up Yoga classes at the gym.
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:15 |
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| counselling??
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:17 |
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| Most diet programmes come with a form of counselling nowadays. Supposed to help you understand your eating habits and the cause of it, how u can control it in the future etc
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:19 |
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| I just plan on going back to swimming. I want to be at master's level before the end of the year.
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:30 |
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facetygal wrote: Most diet programmes come with a form of counselling nowadays. Supposed to help you understand your eating habits and the cause of it, how u can control it in the future etc
Yep. And it worked like a charm for me. The only reason I'm going back to it is because my programme focuses more on the things in your life than the things that you eat. I could do with that little bit of extra support right now.
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 16:40 |
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| I don't get counselling as such, I get a one to one consulation. In that consultation they weigh and measure me, then look at my food diary and tell me where I'm going wrong. But the other day I did one of their questionnaires which showed up that I'm a severe emotional overeater and counselling was suggested. The past 2 mths have actually proved that when I'm stressed I do eat, so Soulstarr as it seems like we are more or less in the same boat we can support each other if you like?
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Posted: Saturday December 23rd, 2006 23:27 |
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i have been slacking with my cross trainer so i plan to push myself to 30hr sessions. 3 times a week, i also plan to eat more fruit and veg,
overall i would like to lose 3 stone by summer
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Posted: Sunday December 24th, 2006 15:17 |
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Im planning to put on weight so my planner will consist of eating, sleeping, eating and sleeping - lol. But really, I need to gain weight so I will indulge over the hols and yes, free up th nicotine stick, that way I will gain some weight.  I also want to learn tai chi. Last edited on Sunday December 24th, 2006 15:18 by blessingfromgod
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Posted: Tuesday December 26th, 2006 22:38 |
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I'm gonna be continuing my training sessions as before.
3 times a week consisting of weights and cardio. Went training on christmas eve and today. Gonna keep focused on my work.
To everyone else, train hard and keep up the good work.
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Posted: Thursday December 28th, 2006 13:07 |
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blessingfromgod wrote: Im planning to put on weight so my planner will consist of eating, sleeping, eating and sleeping - lol. But really, I need to gain weight so I will indulge over the hols and yes, free up th nicotine stick, that way I will gain some weight. I also want to learn tai chi.
The more healthy way to gain weight is in the gym with free weights and drink a little protein.
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Posted: Thursday December 28th, 2006 19:08 |
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im going to bedoing the 12 week body for life challenge. basically working out 6 times a week, alternating between 20mins interval cardio and resistance training. As for food i'll keep doing what i do eat heathly but allow myself cheese cake every now and then which means every 2/3 months.
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Posted: Thursday December 28th, 2006 20:07 |
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facetygal wrote: My plan is 3 meals a day (no snacks), consists of protein, fruits and veg (no carbs) plus 2litres of water.
I find this the hardest thing to stick to and yet it is the most effective. Definitely something I want to become routine...actually starting it from now-I'm done with pigging out over Christmas (though I will allow myself potatoes once every 1-2 weeks )
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 06:19 |
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You know I was wondering who kibibi was, so it's u blackbeauty 
You may think it's hard initially but ur body gets used to it after about the 2nd week, and the whole idea is to fill up on water between meals so u don't feel any hunger pangs. Water is ur friend I'm telling you, I used to average about 14 cups of hot water a day at work, plus I'd continue when I got home, does wonders for ur skin. At the start of the plan I was allowed sweet potatoes which is supposed to be healthier than normal potatoes, so I'd say to try those.
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 15:25 |
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facetygal wrote: You know I was wondering who kibibi was, so it's u blackbeauty
You may think it's hard initially but ur body gets used to it after about the 2nd week, and the whole idea is to fill up on water between meals so u don't feel any hunger pangs. Water is ur friend I'm telling you, I used to average about 14 cups of hot water a day at work, plus I'd continue when I got home, does wonders for ur skin. At the start of the plan I was allowed sweet potatoes which is supposed to be healthier than normal potatoes, so I'd say to try those.
Hey, whaddup Facetygal...did you you mean to say 14 cups of hot water? You aren't sweating all day drinking that? How can that even be refreshing? Is it ok if you do that but drop a tea bag in the cup?
I am always looking for good things for my skin, so maybe I'll try it. However, I already drink alot of cold water...never soda, but sometimes juice.
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 16:49 |
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| Yeah 14 cups, would let it cool down to luke warm then drink it, would have 2 or 3 at a time. Truss me the hot water tasted better than the cold water coming from a tank, and to get to 14 I had to build up cos before I would just about manage 1 cup in a day. Alot of peeps would ask if I added anything to the hot water but I just left it plain, no biggie. If your gonna have tea drink it without milk and sugar, but even better is a green tea called oolong, very good for the skin but expensive.
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 19:02 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: blessingfromgod wrote: Im planning to put on weight so my planner will consist of eating, sleeping, eating and sleeping - lol. But really, I need to gain weight so I will indulge over the hols and yes, free up th nicotine stick, that way I will gain some weight. I also want to learn tai chi.
The more healthy way to gain weight is in the gym with free weights and drink a little protein.
Bless you Shemsi... Once I'v added the weight I will tone it.
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 19:43 |
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blessingfromgod wrote: Bless you Shemsi... Once I'v added the weight I will tone it.
Not trying to be your daddy or anything, but it will be 10 times more difficult to tone after gaining fat instead of muscle. Over-eating will only give you fat, not muscle.
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 23:56 |
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Has anyone considered other forms of exercsie which have an African ethos
eg
http://www.tamaresmai.com/index.htm
http://www.mashufaa.co.uk/contact.htm
http://www.karibufitness.com/
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 21:43 |
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Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: blessingfromgod wrote: Bless you Shemsi... Once I'v added the weight I will tone it.
Not trying to be your daddy or anything, but it will be 10 times more difficult to tone after gaining fat instead of muscle. Over-eating will only give you fat, not muscle.
Hi Shemsi, thank you. I have noted your advise.
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BP what do you think on detox diets?
WHEN Teron Beal, a songwriter and aspiring actor in Manhattan, was looking to drop weight quickly for a photo shoot, he didn’t double up on gym visits, gulp metabolic boosting pills or limit his diet to leafy greens and lean protein. Instead, he took a more drastic approach: he tried the “master cleanse,� a fast that requires subsisting for 10 or more days solely on an elixir of fresh-squeezed lemon juice, cayenne pepper, maple syrup and water.
“I had only three weeks and I needed the difference to be noticeable,� said Mr. Beal, adding that he lost nearly 10 pounds during his 12-day fast in July. “The first few days were horrible, but by the fifth day I woke up and looked in the mirror and saw two ab muscles that had eluded me for years. I was grumpy no longer.�
While popular diets and fasts come and go, master cleanse remains a perennial favorite, a kind of folk regimen that owes its popularity to word of mouth and the Internet. Created in the 1940’s by a nutrition guru, Stanley Burroughs, to treat ulcers and other internal ailments, the fast enjoyed a vogue in the late ’70s after the publication of his book “The Master Cleanser.� Its fans then were health-conscious types, interested in purging their bodies of impurities and toxins like pesticides and food additives.
But in recent years master cleanse has enjoyed yet another vogue among people seeking to shed pounds in a short time. Celebrities, of course, are in the vanguard. On Oprah Winfrey’s show, the singer and actress Beyoncé Knowles announced that she had lost 20 pounds on the fast to prepare for her starring role in the new film “Dreamgirls.�
Robin Quivers, Howard Stern’s long-suffering sidekick, told People magazine that she did the fast on three separate occasions in 2004 and shrunk to 145 pounds from a peak of 218. (She heard about it from the magician David Blaine, no stranger to challenging his body.)
And on a recent episode of “30 Rock,� the NBC comedy, Tina Fey’s character is asked: “What are you doing? South Beach? Master cleanse?�
She did look skinnier.
The Internet teems with testimonials to the cleanse, also known as the lemonade diet, claiming that it fights disease, clears the mind as well as acne, and increases energy. Bloggers chronicle their daily fasting. Master cleanse video diaries can be found on YouTube, and a cottage industry has developed with various companies peddling cleansing kits including all ingredients for the beverage except lemons.
Never mind that most nutrition and diet experts advise against multiday fasting.
“I cannot believe how this thing has had a total revival,� said Joy Bauer, a nutritionist and the author of “The 90/10 Weight-Loss Plan.� “People want a quick fix and they want to be thin so badly that they’re vulnerable and open to almost anything.�
Ms. Bauer estimated that fasters who drink six glasses of the lemony potion a day — the low end of the recommended amount — are consuming about 650 calories, far less than the 1,600-plus calories the average woman needs to maintain her weight or the roughly 2,400 calories a man requires.
“Of course you’re going to lose weight,� she said. “You’re starving yourself.� Seldom do the pounds stay off, she added, and people have a tendency to binge once they begin eating again.
Still, many are willing to disregard the word of nutritionists, seduced by the notion that the only things standing between them and a slimmer body are a citrus-flavored drink and several days of discomfort.
Last week at Amoy’s Beauty, the hair salon of Amoy Pitters in the East Village, a brunette complained about her holiday weight gain. “Girl,� Ms. Pitters said, “you need to do master cleanse.�
Ms. Pitters, who first tried the fast four years ago at the prompting of one of her clients, Kacy Duke, a personal trainer to several celebrities, said she was skeptical at first. But 10 days and dozens of lemons later, she was eight pounds lighter, and elated. “I fit into my ultraskinny jeans and I couldn’t believe it,� Ms. Pitters, a petite clotheshorse, said. “I was so proud of myself for sticking with it, because it wasn’t easy.�
Ms. Pitters estimated that 85 percent of her more than 200 clients have tried the cleanse after hearing her rave. She uses it after the holiday season and before trips to bikini-friendly locales. “I know it works,� she said. “And you’d be surprised how many models I know who do it, too.�
Kristina Wong, a performance artist in Los Angeles, lasted on the fast for only five days, but she also saw results. “I looked great,� said Ms. Wong, who uploaded a video diary of her fasting experience on YouTube in September. “No more stomach rolls. I was such a skinny mini.�
Ms. Duke, who puts herself on the lemonade diet four times a year for a week to 12 days, pointed to other supposed benefits. “My eyes are clearer, my skin has a different glow and some of my best running times have been while I’m on master cleanse,� she said. She introduced it to her client Denzel Washington and “he loved it,� she said.
The enduring popularity of the cleanse may have as much to do with its instant results as with the drink’s relatively inoffensive taste (think lemon Gatorade with a spicy kick) and simple recipe: 2 tablespoons lemon juice, 2 tablespoons Grade-B maple syrup, 1/10 teaspoon cayenne pepper and 8 ounces of spring or purified water.
According to “The Master Cleanser,� Burroughs’s book, the lemon acts as a purifier and provides potassium, the cayenne pepper adds B and C vitamins and aids in circulation, and maple syrup, a sugar, provides energy and minerals. Burroughs suggested that fasters drink anywhere from 6 to 12 glasses of the stuff a day as well as a mixture of water and sea salt in the morning and an herbal laxative tea in the evening, to help aid in waste removal.
On message boards at Web sites like CureZone.com, writers warn that it’s best to stay close to a restroom. “One day it was just two hours of me running back and forth to the bathroom,� Ms. Wong said.
All that time in the loo can adversely affect one’s social life. Many fasters also say so long to the business lunch, the after-work cocktail and dinner at the latest restaurant, for fear of temptation.
Samuel Klein, the director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the medical school of Washington University in St. Louis, is leery of master-cleanse-like regimens because there is no data that prove they provide any medical benefit and no evidence that fasting helps rid the body of toxins, which happens naturally, he said.
While fasting for a few days is not dangerous, Dr. Klein said, “Fasting for too long can deplete muscle tissue, including your heart muscle, and it can reduce the size and functioning of organs like the kidney and liver.�
He is just one of many nutritionists who caution that fasting can be counterproductive. Some say it can even slow down the metabolism, making it even more difficult to lose weight in the future.
Try telling that to the converts. Peter Glickman, the author of “Lose Weight, Have More Energy and Be Happier in 10 Days,� is among them. Mr. Glickman, who at 6-2 once weighed more than 230 pounds, had already made over his lifestyle, going on a vegan diet and losing 42 pounds, when he came across the fast three years ago online. He lost 23 pounds in 20 days, he said. He sold his software company and went into the business of promoting the diet.
It has proved lucrative. On his Web site, themastercleanse.com, he sells Burroughs’s original book ($8.95), his updated version and an accompanying CD ($31.95), and a master cleanse kit ($49.95; just add lemons). He wouldn’t give specifics, but said his book is in its fourth printing. “I just put in an order for 10,000 more the other day,� he said.
Adaora Udoji, an anchor at Court TV, grew up watching her father use the fast. “We all just thought he was a weirdo,� she said.
But after quitting smoking last year, she fasted for 14 days, and now she is a believer. “It’s almost like a religious experience,� she said. “The first few days you’re obsessing about food and by the fourth or fifth day, you get this inexplicable burst of energy and you feel like you can run laps around the world.�
Ms. Bauer, the nutritionist, is not convinced. “I really think this chanting about people feeling so invigorated by this really comes from the happiness that people feel about losing weight,� she said.
Running laps was the furthest thing from Ms. Wong’s mind during her fast. She found herself staring longingly at takeout menus and scouring food blogs. “I drive a car that runs on vegetable oil so it smells kind of like a fast-food restaurant, and there were times when I was so hungry I just wanted to pull over and put my mouth around the exhaust pipe,� she said
1. READ THE FRIGGIN BOOK. BUY THE BOOK. STUDY THAT BOOK. MEMORIZE THAT FUGGIN BOOK IF YOU HAVE TO. BUT READ THE DAMN BOOK.
The MC is a serious thing. If you don't do this correctly, you can injure yourself internally. You can go to all the messageboards in the world and read all the websites and it's still not going to give you the EXACT information as the book. There are a couple of websites that "claim" to post the whole book but nothing is better than buying the book and reading it for yourself. I have lots of notations in my book. Do the same and keep going back to it when you can't find someone who did it already. I'm done with the MC and I still go back to the book to make sure that I'm weaning off liquid food correctly.
2. The MC is not supposed to taste nasty. It's supposed to taste like LEMONADE - hot or cold.
In the book, it says that you need 2 tablespoons of organic lemon juice, 2 tablespoons of organic maple syrup, and 1/10 teaspoon of cayenne pepper. That means the following: The lemon juice you buy in the store isn't going to cut it. If you don't have time to get lemons and squeeze the juice out of them, I recommend you buy this 
You can get it in Whole Foods Market. (you should know what I'm going to say next....) Aunt Jemima's maple-flavored sugar syrup isn't going to cut it. Organic Maple Syrup is the only way to go.
On this note, you can get Grade A Dark Amber or Grade B Dark Amber. The only true difference between the two is that Grade A is much sweeter than Grade B (this grade tastes like a tree). For any beginner, I would suggest you go for the Grade A Dark Amber (not medium amber either or you won't get enough minerals and nutrients that you need). Red Devil Liquid Cayenne Pepper is not going to work either. Get some organic Ground Cayenne Pepper. That isn't hot but does taste spicy.
Now the measurements that are given in the book is for 1 cup. When you do it this way, it's always going to taste like lemonade. So if you get a thermos for work, measure out how many cups it would take to fill it and mix accordingly. For my thermos, I use 8 tablespoons of lemon juice/maple syrup and 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne pepper (you really don't need that much anyway).
In the book, it says "you cannot vary the amount of lemon juice used." This is truth. However, you can vary the amount of maple syrup and cayenne pepper that you use. For those who are overweight, you can use less maple syrup. For those who are underweight, you can use more.
I used Grade B Dark Amber for the 15 days that I finished. After a while, the taste got to me. Next time I do this again, I'll use Grade A (still have a sweet tooth!  )
3. The lemonade tea is important but the HERBAL LAXATIVE TEA AND THE SALT WATER CLEANSE ARE MORE IMPORTANT.
You need to do this to clean yourself out. Herbal Laxative Tea at night (right before you go to sleep) and Salt Water cleanse in the morning. If you can't do the Salt Water cleanse (hypertension for example), then doing the HLT in the night and morning is fine. That leads me to the last thing...
4. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE ON MEDICATION. I don't care what kind of medication you're on...f**k it, if you take iron pills, get off of them for a month and then do this. When you read the book the first couple of pages talk about a man who was on medication and did the Master Cleanser. This had a lot of people asking me, "well can't I do it like that too?" NO MO FO, YOU CAN'T!! First of all, he got off the medication after a short time doing the MC. Second of all, when this man did this, it was before 1975. Medicine back then is not medicine now...if you saw a commerical for a medication back then, I'm sure it didn't spend over 60 seconds explaining all kinds of side effects. You know that the MC is going to help you but mixed with the medication, you have no idea. I don't need that on my brain and soul., knowing that you're f**ked up cuz you did this with medication and it didn't take well. Don't overtax your liver.
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