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Posted: Sunday July 30th, 2006 01:53 |
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Dark skin 'does not block cancer'
Sunscreen can block harmful rays
Contrary to common perception, people with dark skin are more likely to die from skin cancer than those with fairer skin, warn US researchers.
Although the disease is less common, when it does occur it is typically more aggressive and diagnosed later, which leads to more deaths, they explain.
The Cincinnati University work is a warning to anyone who wrongly assumes skin tone makes some immune to cancers. Experts advise people of all races to protect their skin from sun damage.
Misconception
Lead researcher Dr Hugh Gloster said: "There's a perception that people with darker skin don't have to worry about skin cancer, but that's not true.
"Minorities do get skin cancer, and because of this false perception most cases aren't diagnosed until they are more advanced and difficult to treat.
"Unfortunately, that translates into higher mortality rates."
He said it was true that the extra pigment in darker skin did afford some added protection against the sun's harmful UV rays and that darker skin is, therefore, less susceptible to sunburn. But he said this should not lull people with darker skin into a false sense of security.
Dark skin has increased epidermal melanin which provides a natural skin protection factor (SPF) - a measure of how long skin covered with sunscreen takes to burn compared with uncovered skin.
Very dark, black skin has a natural SPF of about 13 and filters twice as much UV radiation as white skin, for example.
Sun protection
However, health experts advise people to use sunscreen with an SPF of at least 15. Dr Gloster told a meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology in San Diego that doctors should make sure that all of their patients, regardless of race, use sunscreen and self-check for skin cancers.
 This study shows that even people with darker skin need to be aware of the signs of skin cancer 
Ed Yong, cancer information officer at Cancer Research UK
Malignant melanoma, the most aggressive form of skin cancer, can present differently in different races.
Fairer-skinned people may notice a change in a sun-exposed mole, whilst darker-skinned people might develop the cancer on areas protected from the sun such as the soles of the feet. There are over 70,000 new cases of skin cancer diagnosed each year in the UK, making it the most common type of cancer.
Ed Yong, cancer information officer at Cancer Research UK, said: "This study shows that even people with darker skin need to be aware of the signs of skin cancer.
"Although those most at risk of skin cancer are people with fair skin, lots of moles or freckles or a family history of the disease, it is also important for black people to check their skin regularly.
"Black people are most likely to develop skin cancers on the palms of their hands or the soles of their feet. "Checking your skin for unusual changes is crucial as it can mean that the disease can be spotted earlier, when it is easier to treat."
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Posted: Sunday July 30th, 2006 04:05 |
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"Black people are most likely to develop skin cancers on the palms of their hands or the soles of their feet.
Well this should come as no surprise to any of us as these are the least pigmented areas on our bodies. Anyway, black people shouldn't shun sunscreen and see it as a white only thing. Yes we have more protection from the sun than they do but that doesn't mean that we can block out all harmful rays. Also when you think about it, when you inherently have an SPF of 13 protection from the sun it will take exposure to more harmful rays for you to develop cancer, therefore when we do develop the disease you can be sure that it will be the worst kind. Having less of a chance of developing cancer does not mean that you should ignore the odds that are against you and not take proper precaution. But at the same time, our people have been living with the sun for centuries without any serious problems so lets not exaggerate things and cause unnecessary panic.
I believe that this is also the same case with black women and breast cancer. Although white women are more likely to develop the disease, when we do develop it, it is more likely to go unnoticed in the beginning stages and we are more likely to develop a more rigorous form of the cancer.
Anyway, however small the percentage of black people with these types of cancer may be we still need to be mindful of it and take the necessary steps to prevent them.
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Posted: Sunday July 30th, 2006 09:24 |
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I use sun screen if I go abroad. It does help, because I don't get the dry heat bumps happening after I have been out in the sun. But I don't like to use it often. I'm just really skeptical about what they put in it...like some kind of chemical to weaken my melanin. Paranoid, I know
*One minute the article talks about those with dark skin, then it uses the word minorities and then it moves on to Black people. What are those words inter-changable?  And if they are talking globally, then we are hardly a minority!
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Posted: Thursday October 12th, 2006 17:15 |
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Lies!
They're playing games to make themselves feel more comfortable. If anything cancer goes undiagnosed because most Africans don't have medical insurance.
They've f'ed up the planet with their imbalanced ways and need news stories like this to put others on the same rung as them. When things start gettign hot they'll have to retreat to their caves and I'll laugh at any negro following them beliving their BS news stories.
Pah! 
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Posted: Thursday October 12th, 2006 20:22 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: Lies!
They've f'ed up the planet with their imbalanced ways and need news stories like this to put others on the same rung as them. When things start gettign hot they'll have to retreat to their caves and I'll laugh at any negro following them beliving their BS news stories.
Pah!
PULLEEAAAZZZEEEEE.......................
Skin cancer is caused by exposure to UV rays not by heat.
LOL!
You'll be laughing eh? When deserts are expanding in Africa and famine and drought is a thousand times worse than today?
Pathetic.
Get a life brother instead of indulging in the Western pastime of oneupmanship.
There are no winners when nature is being poisoned.
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Posted: Friday October 13th, 2006 01:17 |
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Kunjufu wrote:
Although the disease is less common, when it does occur it is typically more aggressive and diagnosed later, which leads to more deaths,
Because we're less likely to get it so when we do which is highly unlikely, but if so our bodies aren't prepared for it, so naturally it will seem more aggressive. It will have no natural defense, or at best less time to adapt to the changes taking place, since it's so alien to our form.
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Lead researcher Dr Hugh Gloster said: "There's a perception that people with darker skin don't have to worry about skin cancer, but that's not true.
"Minorities do get skin cancer, and because of this false perception most cases aren't diagnosed until they are more advanced and difficult to treat.
"Unfortunately, that translates into higher mortality rates."
You know when you're talking about a world population, cancer and people with darker skin, and still get called a minority you should know this is bullsh*t right? Darker skinned people are a minority compared to what exactly? Think...WHO are they talking too in this report?
He said it was true that the extra pigment in darker skin did afford some added protection against the sun's harmful UV rays and that darker skin is, therefore, less susceptible to sunburn. But he said this should not lull people with darker skin into a false sense of security.
Oh we shouldn't got out and sunbathe then to get a tan? No sh*t.
Dark skin has increased epidermal melanin which provides a natural skin protection factor (SPF) - a measure of how long skin covered with sunscreen takes to burn compared with uncovered skin.
Very dark, black skin has a natural SPF of about 13 and filters twice as much UV radiation as white skin, for example.
Sun protection
However, health experts advise people to use sunscreen with an SPF of at least 15. Dr Gloster told a meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology in San Diego that doctors should make sure that all of their patients, regardless of race, use sunscreen and self-check for skin cancers.
Yes, I'll put a foreign agent created by MINORITIES FOR MINORITIES on my skin. (sarcasm) Should do me good right?. I mean the same people create different hair products for different types of hair right?
This study shows that even people with darker skin need to be aware of the signs of skin cancer
Ed Yong, cancer information officer at Cancer Research UK
Malignant melanoma, the most aggressive form of skin cancer, can present differently in different races.
Fairer-skinned people may notice a change in a sun-exposed mole, whilst darker-skinned people might develop the cancer on areas protected from the sun such as the soles of the feet. There are over 70,000 new cases of skin cancer diagnosed each year in the UK, making it the most common type of cancer.
Ed Yong, cancer information officer at Cancer Research UK, said: "This study shows that even people with darker skin need to be aware of the signs of skin cancer.
Asians or blacks or both? Surely a study of this sort should be more specific.
"Although those most at risk of skin cancer are people with fair skin, lots of moles or freckles or a family history of the disease, it is also important for black people to check their skin regularly.
Just blacks or people with darker skin?
And why? because we unnaturally go out into the sun for hours to change the tone of our skin or something. Yeah right we're the ones who live in the hotter climates, yet we should worry about it while in the west also.
Hmmm. sh*tting Bull.
"Black people are most likely to develop skin cancers on the palms of their hands or the soles of their feet. "Checking your skin for unusual changes is crucial as it can mean that the disease can be spotted earlier, when it is easier to treat."
The true answer to this has been said already.
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Posted: Friday October 13th, 2006 17:33 |
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^ Exactly.
PULLEEAAAZZZEEEEE.......................
Skin cancer is caused by exposure to UV rays not by heat.
Really?
And what just so happens to be effective enough to block out the harmful effects of UV rays?
Hmmmm...
Granted common sence says not to stand out in the sun and not think of suh dangers but please feel free to check out what Melanin is and why synthetic melanin is in sunglasses and what not. 
Theres a discussion on it in the other room if you'd like to know more.
You'll be laughing eh? When deserts are expanding in Africa and famine and drought is a thousand times worse than today?
Pathetic.
Get a life brother instead of indulging in the Western pastime of oneupmanship.
There are no winners when nature is being poisoned.
Granted, but there is such a thing as Karma.
Just who is poisioning the planet exactly? Please answer that. Also please feel free to tell me what race has long learnt to live with nature and not go against it?... Do you know its actually part of european philosophy to dominate nature? Check out what was being said during the industrial era even now they have the same attitude from ''their'' iceage type thinking... did you know you can run a car on used cooking oil with a few modifications.... the governments and oil companies wouldn't want that though would mess up their profits and economics.... suppressing ideas on alternative energy wouldn't want people getting anything for free in a capitalist society now would we?
What does c-a-p-i-t-a-l-i-s-t mean by the way? I forget....
Its ironic that the very people who decided to go against nature should be the ones to suffer the most from the consequences. The imbalanced demons are probably digging into the earth right now to hide from what they've done. Problem is you can't run from;
K-A-R-M-A
On top of that I'd just like to add that european, 'dominance' will be remembered as a shameful time throughout history.
Kind of warm here in England for October isn't it!?
Seems like a late autum. 
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Posted: Friday October 13th, 2006 20:09 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: please feel free to check out what Melanin is and why synthetic melanin is in sunglasses and what not. The concept of 'Melanin' is a crutch for some insecure black people like the concept of 'intelligence' is for some insecure whites. Just who is poisioning the planet exactly? Please answer that. Also please feel free to tell me what race has long learnt to live with nature and not go against it?... Industrialists and capitalists are poisoning the planet. There are many people who live in harmony with nature and their lives revolve around spirituality not race. In Africa for example the Dogon, the Kalahari bushmen, the Maasi, Yoruba, Oromo, etc..etc... in America there are the Navajo, the Muskogee, Pawnee, Inuit, etc..etc..in Australia the Aborigine and in Europe the Maarahvas, the Asatru, the Wiccans, Mithraists, etc... Do you know its actually part of european philosophy to dominate nature? I know it says in the Bible that God has given man dominion over nature. When that load of crap religion failed people became 'secular' and sought other ways rather than prayer to dominate/control nature. Too late to go back as Christianity had already destroyed their indigenous faiths. Science finished the job. You can see that it's happened everywhere. .. did you know you can run a car on used cooking oil with a few modifications.... the governments and oil companies wouldn't want that though would mess up their profits and economics.... suppressing ideas on alternative energy wouldn't want people getting anything for free in a capitalist society now would we? Agreed. Its ironic that the very people who decided to go against nature should be the ones to suffer the most from the consequences. The imbalanced demons are probably digging into the earth right now to hide from what they've done. You are obviously an angry young 'un so I'll go easy on you. Let me ask you one question which I want you to answer truthfully without looking up the answer on the net if you don't mind. You drop two identically sized bricks from 20 feet up in the air, simultaneously. One brick is twice as heavy as the other. Which one hits the ground first? I'm not trying to judge you right or wrong here just demonstrate that the problem we ALL face is much more complex than race.
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Posted: Saturday October 14th, 2006 00:08 |
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aeryal wrote: Rebel-Lion wrote: please feel free to check out what Melanin is and why synthetic melanin is in sunglasses and what not. The concept of 'Melanin' is a crutch for some insecure black people like the concept of 'intelligence' is for some insecure whites.
The practicalites of melanin and intelligence are different, but I think a proven point would be the tendencies between a person with melanin and without would perform if they had equal educational resources. It would really mess with your ego to know that melanin does make a difference even in mental and spatial processing, let alone even simple things like preventing UV-based skin cancer, and potent progeny producing capabilities.
Its ironic that the very people who decided to go against nature should be the ones to suffer the most from the consequences. The imbalanced demons are probably digging into the earth right now to hide from what they've done. You are obviously an angry young 'un so I'll go easy on you. Let me ask you one question which I want you to answer truthfully without looking up the answer on the net if you don't mind. You drop two identically sized bricks from 20 feet up in the air, simultaneously. One brick is twice as heavy as the other. Which one hits the ground first? I'm not trying to judge you right or wrong here just demonstrate that the problem we ALL face is much more complex than race.
In the end, the truth will reveal itself and also authenticate itself. That is with the understanding that over this span of "history" compared to the overall actual chronology of mankind, no real or lasting progress has been made. A huge deal of this "progress" that is viewed in today's "advanced" society is illusionary and artifical. The truth of the matter is that although the truth can be beneficial to everyone, it might not be so much for those who have been lied to and prevented from seeing the absolute truth in either case. "Race" itself is not complicated at all, because it truly has no major scientific bearing, but the study of melanin and what is perceived as "race" is a little more complicated than "dropping two identically sized bricks from 20 feet up in the air". White people do have a tendency of "seeing in only black and white" (limited) in relation to the use of the word "all". Even in the words of a popular U2 song, "We're one, But we're not the same" displays that although we have similarities (when it comes to genetics), there is also a breath of differences that "seeing in full technicolor" could only allow complete understanding of (i.e. even one machine is not made up of all identical parts, just as one body of people are not completely identical in purpose or in deeper realms of operation). Unfortunately, that reveals that which some people do not want others to know.
Truth be told yet again, there already are buildings underground, be it gov't or otherwise.
Serious question though, why would you want to be here? Is it out of curiousity or are you getting paid to be here?
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Posted: Saturday October 14th, 2006 12:26 |
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HLF wrote: It would really mess with your ego to know that melanin does make a difference even in mental and spatial processing, let alone even simple things like preventing UV-based skin cancer, and potent progeny producing capabilities.
The world is rooted the invisible and unknowable, the overdeveloped ego is a preoccupation of the selfish western world. Hence, I am not fooled or frightened by rationalists attempts to locate the source of things within the visible and measurable. The scientific worldview is corrosive and divisive and will be rejected in the final analysis by nature itself. but the study of melanin and what is perceived as "race" is a little more complicated than "dropping two identically sized bricks from 20 feet up in the air". Dropping two identically sized bricks but one twice as heavy as the other may seem simple to you but you fail to see the ramifications of the outcome of such a 'simple' action. It lead to the concept of gravity and the mathematical rationalisation of invisible forces. I don't believe in gravity but if you think it is all simple then I would like to hear your explanation for the outcome of such an experiment if you don't mind.
Serious question though, why would you want to be here? Is it out of curiousity or are you getting paid to be here?
Paid? Who's going to pay me to post here? (If you know someone who will please give me their email). No I'm here to learn from others.
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Posted: Saturday October 14th, 2006 17:36 |
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aeryal wrote:The world is rooted the invisible and unknowable, the overdeveloped ego is a preoccupation of the selfish western world. Hence, I am not fooled or frightened by rationalists attempts to locate the source of things within the visible and measurable. The scientific worldview is corrosive and divisive and will be rejected in the final analysis by nature itself.
Do you "see", understand, comphrend that which appears to be invisible and unknowable? I see the ego as being far more unbound than by a part of the world. It is just as western as the "western" part of the brain and thought. The left brain has to "analyze" nature from parts to whole, when the right brain intuitively understands/know nature from whole to parts.
Ego is the separatism of the 'I' in the perception of the world and the people within this world. Know this albino one, my thought processes are not rooted in rationalism nor the physical analysis of science, but wouldn't you be a far more factual testament to that than I? You do lack spiritual understanding.
Dropping two identically sized bricks but one twice as heavy as the other may seem simple to you but you fail to see the ramifications of the outcome of such a 'simple' action. It lead to the concept of gravity and the mathematical rationalisation of invisible forces. I don't believe in gravity but if you think it is all simple then I would like to hear your explanation for the outcome of such an experiment if you don't mind.
Please explain how this is relevant to the issue at hand and the point would be proven. It is but yet another rational frame of mind/thought that attempts to rationalize that which realm is much more intuitive, the spiritual?
Serious question though, why would you want to be here? Is it out of curiousity or are you getting paid to be here?
Paid? Who's going to pay me to post here? (If you know someone who will please give me their email). No I'm here to learn from others.
I will hold you to that which you write, because from what I have seen, you have done more rejecting of the complete and objective truth than truly the learning and internalization of it. So you must prove yourself and that you are learning; prove that an "ol' dog can learn new tricks". I have observed that which is the issue a couple times before....change in light of the truth is much harder for the elder than the young, furthermore a rarity.
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Posted: Sunday October 15th, 2006 12:25 |
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HLF wrote:Do you "see", understand, comphrend that which appears to be invisible and unknowable? You cannot "see" or understand that which appears to be invisible and unknowable - you only believe you can. Like all religious people who have mistaken their desires for the truth you have only fooled yourself. The world is never fooled by us however.
Ego is the separatism of the 'I' in the perception of the world and the people within this world. Know this albino one, my thought processes are not rooted in rationalism nor the physical analysis of science, but wouldn't you be a far more factual testament to that than I? You do lack spiritual understanding. Your thought processes are rooted in something WORSE than science and rationalism - pseudo-scientific racial theories and mystification.
Please explain how this is relevant to the issue at hand and the point would be proven. It is but yet another rational frame of mind/thought that attempts to rationalize that which realm is much more intuitive, the spiritual? Nearly all humans think that a heavier weight will fall to the earth faster. But both bricks will strike the earth at the same time. This is because humans mistake the sensation of a heavier weight drawing their arms down for a force which does not depend upon their thinking or their bodies in any way at all. Do you now see how hard it is for some to transcend their physical bodies but that western science has already achieved to some extent? Your beliefs in Melanin 'science' are akin to a man who still believes the Sun goes around the Earth when far greater men have shown through balanced reasoning and observation that this is clearly false.
I will hold you to that which you write, because from what I have seen, you have done more rejecting of the complete and objective truth than truly the learning and internalization of it. I said I was here to learn - not neccessarily from you. Your posts are littered with the arrogant gibberish of those who believe they already possess 'truth' on account of their biology. Hence, I am patient and humble knowing that in time it is not I who will be doing the learning.
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Posted: Sunday October 15th, 2006 16:56 |
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The concept of 'Melanin' is a crutch for some insecure black people like the concept of 'intelligence' is for some insecure whites.
Oh wake up, we're a peoples of a certain climate if theres no such thing a melanin then whats that dark protective matter in the skins of the Sudanese? Its your insecurity that denies the fact that we are diffrent from europeans. You obviously mixed or a european. Again its scientifically proven that melanin protects InI from UV rays and it is used in products such as sunglasses to that effect.
We need no crutch, you assume that we need one. Assuming that we need to somehow think of ourselves as diffrent when the fact is that we are. I'm happy to stick to the facts in what ever I do. What you'd like to call ''Black Supremecy'' is us researching our history and diffrences and there are many.
Feel free to research whats in anti aging products and visit these sites;
http://www.biovea.net/results.asp?KW=melatonin&Search=Yes
http://melaninproducts.com/store/
Not to mention that its in other more popular brands but not labelled for what it is, something to think about the next time you wear designer sunglasses prehaps.
Industrialists and capitalists are poisoning the planet. There are many people who live in harmony with nature and their lives revolve around spirituality not race. In Africa for example the Dogon, the Kalahari bushmen, the Maasi, Yoruba, Oromo, etc..etc... in America there are the Navajo, the Muskogee, Pawnee, Inuit, etc..etc..in Australia the Aborigine and in Europe the Maarahvas, the Asatru, the Wiccans, Mithraists, etc...
Duh...
Now who are the industrialists and capitalists? Who takes advantage of and bombards countries that don't follow suit and become industrialist, capitalist societies?
Who ships their nuclear waste to 3rd world nations?
Who ships their waste to those same countries?
Who mines the coal/diamonds/gold/just about anything of any apparent worth from the soil of those countries?
Who builds huge industrial factories in those countries, too bad for their own lands, best to have them some where else.
Whos ideaolgy is it to subdue nature rather than live with it? And I'm not talking tribes and rastas here, God bless them. Theres no need for people to be poisioning the planet as ''we'' are today but as said, certain countries economy runs on exploitation be it of people or the planet itself.
I know it says in the Bible that God has given man dominion over nature. When that load of crap religion failed people became 'secular' and sought other ways rather than prayer to dominate/control nature. Too late to go back as Christianity had already destroyed their indigenous faiths. Science finished the job. You can see that it's happened everywhere.
No it hasn't.
Certain countires and peoples don't like the idea of capitalism and what not and choose to opt out of it only to be exploited, kicked off their own land for mining operations and large building projects such as hotels, prehaps a rich fat cat wants a new 500 acre home and gardens all to himself. They were even setting bush fires in Portugal while I was out there to get the people off the land for development.
You are obviously an angry young 'un so I'll go easy on you. Let me ask you one question which I want you to answer truthfully without looking up the answer on the net if you don't mind. You drop two identically sized bricks from 20 feet up in the air, simultaneously. One brick is twice as heavy as the other. Which one hits the ground first? I'm not trying to judge you right or wrong here just demonstrate that the problem we ALL face is much more complex than race.
This isn't a problem we all face. You can't break the backs of my people and come crying the next saying that we all face a problem when the problem was you in the first place. I don't care if europe falls to bits in floods, harsh storms and extreme heat waves. I'm not welcome here as prehaps you are and I have no intention of being welcome here what so ever. I don't think you know too much about european thinking do you? You may think we're harsh on here but have you paid a visit to StormFront and noticed the diffrence in whats allowed on there.... they have an Ethnic Cleansing pamphlet floating around they found a bomb making factory here in England but didn't let it hit the news, guess why and whos supportive of such things... I'm not at home but if I was I'd post up Bosas Report, the european south african and his ideas about 'depopulating' Africa, it includes poisioning mothers, sterilizing people through food supplies, new diseases etc etc.... have you read into Ayran mythology.... the Rig Vedas!? 2000 years bc these people were talking about ''upholding the white colour'' - ''defeating the black skin''.
I'm sorry but you can't be comitting genocide on my peoples and expect me to care when the tables turn. I don't even hate europeans its just not within me as it is with them, dislike & distrust prehaps.
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Posted: Sunday October 15th, 2006 22:32 |
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aeryal wrote: You cannot "see" or understand that which appears to be invisible and unknowable - you only believe you can. Like all religious people who have mistaken their desires for the truth you have only fooled yourself. The world is never fooled by us however.
Here goes you, the albino man, speaking of your desires of limiting all things, that is a part of your nature, for you know that you are limited by the physical, but not I. Don't be fooled, I am not religious, I am far outside of the limits of the boxes created by your ancestors. Did you read the Ice Man inheritance yet? I do see where you do not see, but how can someone who lacks that insight tell anyone else that does have that insight and understanding?
Page 4: “Progress is vindication of all the crises which threaten our survival. It is the materialist conception of hope itself. And if little good can be said of us and our civilizations, we Caucasoids can be proud that we brought progress to them. After some hard thinking, medicine and literacy are generally cited as benefits enjoyed by them. The profits, of course, accrue to us. Take literacy, which generally consists of our teaching ‘them’ one of our Western European languages under less than optimum conditions, guaranteeing an necessarily low level of competence. How could it be otherwise when the level of public literacy is appallingly low even within our advanced Caucasoid strongholds?�
Page 5: “In 1974, the United Nations’ World Health Organization released statistics that were a bitter pill for our progressive pretensions to swallow. Of all males reaching the age of 20, men in industrialized counties have a lesser chance of attaining the age of 65 than their brothers in underdeveloped countries. The inescapable conclusion is that non-Caucasoids were always better off without our notion of progress and we ourselves are beginning to be better off without it.�
Page 12: “Caucasoid progress, what we call ‘civilization’ is but another Greek gift to the world. Rampant progress seems to be a racial inclination. History shows that we Caucasoids have by far the strongest penchant for it Our racial proclivity for progress is so strong that we tend to confuse it with what other men called civilization. ----Progress as we have institutionalized it, and as Caucasoids understand it, is a symptom of undisplaced aggression resulting from Caucasoid psychosexual mal-adaptation.�
Page 13: “Men of other races have kept chronologies, chronicles or satisfied themselves with genealogies when accounting for the past. But so turbulent is the nature of Caucasoid society that western man has been forced to invent history. History is not merely a listing of past events in more or less chronological order, a mechanism which satisfies most other races: our history incorporates explanation and analysis as justifiable and necessary mechanisms for dealing with the sheer volume of data. Of all human societies, the Caucasoid racial group has managed to structure the least stable.�
Page 14: “We Caucasoids possess a uniquely inadequate psychology in this regard We are unable to accept paradoxes and inconsistencies. For us they become conflicts. We are uniquely incapable of coping with intellectual conflicts and paradoxes within our own minds, and we cannot tolerate dissension in others……After thousand of years of racial existence we Caucasoids have still not arrived at any consensus as to the appropriate response to the paradox of human existence, nor have we been able to develop any significant degree of tolerance for differing responses. Our ‘abnormal‘ and uniquely racial history has been characterized by dualistic, antithetical conflicts. At base, all our dualistic conflicts are one: a struggle between the ‘spiritual’ and ‘material’ aspects of human existence. � The history of the West and the Caucasoids is merely this one struggle endlessly repeated under different guise and labels, different heraldry and different uniforms.�
Know this albino one, my thought processes are not rooted in rationalism nor the physical analysis of science, but wouldn't you be a far more factual testament to that than I? You do lack spiritual understanding.
Your thought processes are rooted in something WORSE than science and rationalism - pseudo-scientific racial theories and mystification.
So spirituality and intuition, the very things you lack are far worse processes that your limited rational? Wake up, the things I have spoken about in relation to "race" and its pseudo-scientific origins are facts. Do the research yourself, or are you just like your albino brethren, too afraid of the truth? Left brain dominants are known to not think for themselves.
Nearly all humans think that a heavier weight will fall to the earth faster. But both bricks will strike the earth at the same time. This is because humans mistake the sensation of a heavier weight drawing their arms down for a force which does not depend upon their thinking or their bodies in any way at all. Do you now see how hard it is for some to transcend their physical bodies but that western science has already achieved to some extent? Your beliefs in Melanin 'science' are akin to a man who still believes the Sun goes around the Earth when far greater men have shown through balanced reasoning and observation that this is clearly false.
Truth be told, people with far less melanin believed the earth was flat, was that through their "balanced" physical reasoning alone? There is indeed a science behind melanin, you people know that, my people know that, but complete understanding does not rest only in the physical, but the spiritual and physical. Too bad, albino one you nor yours will not keep me from reaching the understanding of self. I already know you and the patterns of you, but I knew you were white and "white-minded" on a couple of levels, but even on the basic spirit level, you aren't a truth-loving spirit of the Divine good.
I said I was here to learn - not neccessarily from you. Your posts are littered with the arrogant gibberish of those who believe they already possess 'truth' on account of their biology. Hence, I am patient and humble knowing that in time it is not I who will be doing the learning.
It does not matter if you learn from me, but all that you have done here is try to continue more of the European mis-education instead of learn from what REAL and raw truth is presented here. The truth be told again, most elders stop learning after a certain age. Truth has not been attained by my own means, my God YAHWEH has given me that which I have come to understand. Until you can give knowledge of the spiritual which you lack, what can you tell me of absolute truth that you don't seek to know in the first place? What is the worth of your limited observations when you don't even operate/process at a fourth of the people on here? The more you post here, the more your ego will be bruised by the truth, old albino one. I have come across far more good and humble-minded white people than you, people that know what the truth is and humble themselves to it, you are not one of them, the truth is not in you. I don't have issues generally with white people or anyone in general, but I do have issues with anyone that comes on here kicking anything that is not in line with the absolute truth that Yahweh has shown me.
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Posted: Monday October 16th, 2006 16:01 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote:
Oh wake up, we're a peoples of a certain climate if theres no such thing a melanin then whats that dark protective matter in the skins of the Sudanese?
Feel free to research whats in anti aging products and visit these sites;
http://www.biovea.net/results.asp?KW=melatonin&Search=Yes
http://melaninproducts.com/store/
Not to mention that its in other more popular brands but not labelled for what it is, something to think about the next time you wear designer sunglasses prehaps.
Rebel, you are not looking at the world holistically when you talk about skin colour. Travel overland and you will see that skin hues change gradually as this is how humans have travelled (overland) for 100's of thousands of years. Only recently have people of different complexions been shunted together by advances in ship building and aeronautics. Sunglasses and anti-aging products are hardly essential are they? There for the vain if you ask me and I don't see what its got to do with this discussion.
Whos ideaolgy is it to subdue nature rather than live with it? And I'm not talking tribes and rastas here, God bless them. Theres no need for people to be poisioning the planet as ''we'' are today but as said, certain countries economy runs on exploitation be it of people or the planet itself. When it comes to mouths to feed and living space ideology takes a back seat very quickly. The West has become expert at manipulating nature for its own benefits and you find the vast majority of humans now desiring and obtaining the technology to do this. China and India being the most obvious examples at the moment. But Nigeria is also pushing for nuclear power to fuel its expanding population.
Certain countires and peoples don't like the idea of capitalism and what not and choose to opt out of it only to be exploited, kicked off their own land for mining operations and large building projects such as hotels, prehaps a rich fat cat wants a new 500 acre home and gardens all to himself. They were even setting bush fires in Portugal while I was out there to get the people off the land for development. Yes and I could tell you loads of fact and stories about similar events all over the world and I'm sure you could tell me some but it doesn't change the fact that we are sitting comfy here in the UK with all the food we can eat, round the clock entertainment and plenty of expendable personal wealth. Are you ready to give this up? If you are then please explain how Melanin science will help to achieve this when it is glaringly apparent we need to be a society which consumes less and works less.
I don't care if europe falls to bits in floods, harsh storms and extreme heat waves. I'm not welcome here as prehaps you are and I have no intention of being welcome here what so ever. Oh of course you do its your home. You are starting to sound like someone whose never really suffered any great hardship so I can guarantee you that if your home was swept away by a flood you'd be caring. You may think we're harsh on here but have you paid a visit to StormFront and noticed the diffrence in whats allowed on there.... I don't think black people are harsh on here - a minority are misguided however. This web site isn't meant to be a black version of Stormfront. If the British government had any scruples white supremacist websites would be shut down. Unfortunately this country is still too rich and dominant to care about such things and consequently it believes in the American 'free speech' thing which only allows the degrading and insulting behaviour of some British people towards non-Brits to continue. I'm sorry but you can't be comitting genocide on my peoples and expect me to care when the tables turn. I don't even hate europeans its just not within me as it is with them, dislike & distrust prehaps. 'Genocide' is a word loved by politicians and so I'm wary of it. What has happened on this world was never within our hands to guide. Death is an inevitability and brings the assymmetry of this world to a close - regardless of what the West likes to believe. I asked you a question earlier about two objects falling to Earth as a way in to a discussion on science. We (or maybe just I) are looking for a path through the dominance of science's world view but that path is not 'Melanin' science since it is only a continuation of science's division of nature.
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