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Posted: Sunday June 25th, 2006 20:56 |
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article from nytimes.com
June 20, 2006
Really?
The Claim: Soda Is Bad for Bone Health
By ANAHAD O'CONNOR
THE FACTS Can too much soda cause brittle bones? In studies, soda drinkers of all ages have been shown to have higher rates of broken bones and fractures than their non-soda-drinking peers. And for years, scientists have suspected that soda's caffeine, phosphorus and carbonation may interfere with calcium absorption.
But other studies that have taken a hard look at the claim suggest there may be nothing to it. Caffeine is the one ingredient in soda that has been shown to have any direct effect on calcium, but scientists say the effect is so minimal that it can be offset by a normal diet.
One randomized study that showed this directly was published in 2001 by a team at the Creighton University Osteoporosis Research Center. The researchers followed 32 people for a month and had them drink different formulations of soda with varying levels of caffeine, phosphorus or citric acid so they could take urine samples and determine how much calcium the subjects were excreting. As expected, those who drank caffeine-rich sodas excreted calcium; the others did not. But the levels excreted were not considered significant.
Dr. Robert P. Heaney, the lead author of the study, said it was likely that soda drinkers had weaker bones because the soda in their diet was displacing other drinks that had calcium, like orange juice and milk. The problem is not what soda contains, he said, but what it does not.
THE BOTTOM LINE Soda has little effect on calcium levels, but people who drink it may be at greater risk of bone injuries because it takes the place of more nutritious drinks.
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Posted: Monday June 26th, 2006 09:06 |
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i dont drink that stuff anyway.
any fool who drinks a beverage that has had whte people PUT carbonate into it an make if totally unntatural is a FOOL
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Posted: Tuesday June 27th, 2006 14:31 |
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Defyfear,
Oh God, here goes another "It's- bad -for you claims" by the so called medical experts , but yet they tell us that drinking 6 cups of decaffinated coffee may prevent us from developing type 2 diabetes! In general, I have never thought that drinking too much sodas is good for us.the acid in it wil mess with our skin, drinking it without drinking will cause painful kidney infections and doctors also claim that too much soda will also cause you to develop diabetes.
Boy ! how times have changed! There used to be a time where we knew what was/wasn't healthy for us! Now you cannot decipher what is good for you because the medical expects are confused into what's what! Notice in the old days how people used to eat their stuff from nature and how much healthier they were then. Today, the very foods/drinks that they claim are healthy are killing us and the things they claim are destroying us is the very things that are keeping us alive. I see why so many people hate doctors because they are clueless when it comes to our health.
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Posted: Tuesday June 27th, 2006 17:06 |
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Ceecee and all.
Not to blame the majority of our good doctors who help our fellow people in sickness but they have not significantly demonstrated stopping soda pop from entering our elementary schools which our young people drink up like no tomorrow.
Not too long ago, I see a young person about 12 or 13 years of age or more buying a fountain cup (super large cups) for soda. I was saying to myself can you really handle that because I cant.
But I see our doctors alot of the time practice "sport medicine". Just patch you up with whatever perscription needed and let you figure out the rest. Just get back into the game. I mean if they were to go all out with dietary regiment that would tap their time and expertise too much and that would have to be exchange for a higher dollar amount than what the government or job healthcare is willing to deliver.
I have a friend that lives overseas in another G8 nation and he said they showed a study and tv demostration where soda pop melted the rats bone. Without bones your mush. That's very alarming.
I already cut down my intake before this but that just topped it off for me.
Keep alert all.
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Posted: Wednesday June 28th, 2006 23:47 |
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| Caffeine is the keyword. It really leaves one's body out of wack, very much so in large and frequent doses. It's one of those experiments that I involuntarily was a part of, later to collect and observe the data firsthand.
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Posted: Friday June 30th, 2006 02:29 |
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Defyfear,
I've been doing what my neighbor is doing: drinking water , once in a while diet drinks or juices. To be frank, when I drunk sodas, I drunk Sprites or orange drink. I used to have a habit of drinking those sodas because my father used to get them all of the time when we used to go out for dinner. He never believed in kids drinking Cola Colas or any drinks with caffeine in them. He thought that it would make us to hyper.
If there is one thing I don't get about Western diet is why now all concerned about these things? From day one when they knew that all of this stuff they made would be bad for us? Why would they make products that is loaded with unsuspecting toxins? I once went inside a conveince store and this African American guy was trying to chat with the Ethiopian cashier. Both of them was talking about the food of their countries. The guy said that he could not eat their native food because he htought it was bad. Then the cashier said that American food was bad because it was loaded with Junk. I agreed with the latter. While North America and the rest of the western world can boast about the abundance of food they have, other countries can boast about the quality of the food they have. I rather eat foods from other non western countries because they come more to being organic than our own. Do you notice that we have more problem with health than other parts of the world? That is because we have a poor diet of junk food and acid- sodas. When you hear the experts talk about African American health , they always make it seem that it's always a genetic thing. This what I believe: Yes illnesses like High blood pressure and diabetes can be genetic, but I also believe that some people get it because of poor diets. If you compare African American health to those of Africans, ours is far worse than theirs, because their diet is far better than ours( though you'll never see it put on TV). Even when it comes to Alzheimer's disease, We ( Americans in general) have the disease more than other non Americans.This is the consequence that the US and the western world is getting for their over indulgence and toxins of food. Although we want to put people on diets, I don't think that it will ever be. The though came many years too late.
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Posted: Monday July 3rd, 2006 19:07 |
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Ceecee
Our diets are based on convenience. Sugar and it byproducts are plentiful. So is wheat and other grain based foods.
I think the worry comes from rich and middle class.
They have started the expensive organic movement where our poor people cannot fully participate without drastic cuts to their income.
Have you seen those hungry in America infomerials.
In the background, you see all kinds of grain and sugar products like cereals, canned foods, and the likes and little or no organic food, fresh fruits and vegetables. We know they have already genetical modified many common crops. This is the most affordable foods around and I dont think its by accident. With money you can graduate.
With immigrants, they still have a taste of home so to speak, so they carry on this dietary matter but sooner or later their descendants are at the level of many Americans because of the convenience.
It is extremely troubling to witness our middle and upper classes of people deter our poor brethren from participating in eating healthy. Based on the lower and middle classes there is hardly no time to eat and prepare such.
Just like slavery how the slave master determined what his slave would eat the same phenomenon is happening now. Eat what is given by the upper and middle class.
But from that expereience somehow a few of our ancestors found a better way. If they could do it back then I think we can do it toady.
Last edited on Monday July 3rd, 2006 19:08 by defyfear
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