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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 14:46 |
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Microwaved Water - See
What It Does To Plants
4-13-6
Our thanks to Marshall Dudley of Knoxville, TN for sharing his granddaughter, Arielle Reynolds', experiment with us. Both Arielle's mother, Christina, and Grandpa have much to be proud of. Congratulations, Arielle, well done!
Below is a sience fair project that my granddaughter did for 2006. In it she took filered water and divided it into two parts. The first part she heated to boiling in a pan on the stove, and the second part she heated to boiling in a microwave. Then after cooling she used the water to water two identical plants to see if there would be any difference in the growth between the normal boiled water and the water boiled in a microwave. She was thinking that the structure or energy of the water may be compromised by microwave. As it turned out, even she was amazed at the difference.
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 15:06 |
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Damn!!!!!!!!
Any scientists on BNV to explain this??????? I thought these devices were tested and re-tested for safety.... did they forget a simple organism like plants. That means it's only a matter of time before we start seeing negative effects.
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 15:20 |
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| Explain it..I can barely believe it...rah!!!
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 15:32 |
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http://www.relfe.com/microwave.html
excerpt from an article entitled "Microwave cooking is killing you"
"Two researchers, Blanc and Hertel, confirmed that microwave cooking significantly changes food nutrients. Hertel previously worked as a food scientist for several years with one of the major Swiss food companies. He was fired from his job for questioning procedures in processing food because they denatured it. He got together with Blanc of the Swiss Federal Institute of Biochemistry and the University Institute for Biochemistry.
They studied the effect that microwaved food had on eight individuals, by taking blood samples immediately after eating. They found that after eating microwaved food, haemoglobin levels decreased. "These results show anaemic tendencies. The situation became even more pronounced during the second month of the study".
Who knows what results they would have found if they had studied people who ate microwaved food for a year or more?
The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system.
In addition, they found that the number of leucocytes increases after eating microwaved food - something which haematologists take very seriously, because this is often a sign of highly harmful effects, such as poisoning.
Also, after eating microwaved food, cholesterol levels increased. Hertel said "Common scientific belief states that cholesterol values usually alter slowly over longer periods of time. In this study, the markers increased rapidly after the consumption of the microwaved vegetables." He believes his study tends to confirm new scientific data that suggest cholesterol may rapidly increase in the blood secondary to acute stress. "Also," he added, "blood cholesterol levels are less influenced by cholesterol content of food than by stress factors. Such stress-causing factors can apparently consist of foods which contain virtually no cholesterol - the microwaved vegetables."
another link
http://www.jrussellshealth.com/microwaves.html
Funny thing is, it's not like I haven't heard the rumours, just thought 'standards' agencies vetted these devices before they are exposed to the consumer
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 19:45 |
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So? How does knowing that microwave waters kills a plant prove that it will be harmful to humans? So now the anatomy of a plant and a human are so similar that whatever is harmful to a plant must also be harmful to a human? Pouring soda and and soft drinks into a plant will kill it as well, does that mean that it will kill us? If you give a plant too much water that can kill it, now that must mean water will kill us too? If a plant doesnt get enough sunlight it will die so i guess that must mean that if we dont stay out in the sun long enough we will die too, i guess. LOl, what a silly comparison. Besides, most people that i know of dont use microwaved water on a regular basis anyway .
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:02 |
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liberiangirl wrote: So? How does knowing that microwave waters kills a plant prove that it will be harmful to humans? So now the anatomy of a plant and a human are so similar that whatever is harmful to a plant must also be harmful to a human? Pouring soda and and soft drinks into a plant will kill it as well, does that mean that it will kill us? If you give a plant too much water that can kill it, now that must mean water will kill us too? If a plant doesnt get enough sunlight it will die so i guess that must mean that if we dont stay out in the sun long enough we will die too, i guess. LOl, what a silly comparison. Besides, most people that i know of dont use microwaved water on a regular basis anyway .
What a wierd response.... duh, of course the anotomy of a plant is different, but does it not stand to reason that if a simple anatomy can be damaged so quickly then a more complex one like are own will eventually come to some harm???? Why then is baby milk not advised to be heated up in microwave???? because they are harmful effects.... things that were considered harmless 50 years ago have now had the dangers highlighted i.e smoking... do we wait 50 years in the future before we act now????
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:48 |
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| Funnily enough, i was gonna ask a question about microwaves today. I went to my friends house for dinner yesterday and they don't even own a microwave so its making me question whether I should carry on using one anymore... Last edited on Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:48 by Soulstarr
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:54 |
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Soulstarr wrote: Funnily enough, i was gonna ask a question about microwaves today. I went to my friends house for dinner yesterday and they don't even own a microwave so its making me question whether I should carry on using one anymore...
I too know of people that don't use microwaves... but these are hardcore vegans and I just felt that they were being OTT, but seems that the scientists that warned of the dangers years ago may have been on to something.... who knows Worth looking into at the very least anyway.
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:55 |
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remeber microwaves cook from from the inside out and keep radiating for atleast 2mins after the food is "cooked"
remeber that next time to take something out and start scoffing it straight away...even in the manuals they tell you to leave food standing for 4mins after micro has finished
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 20:57 |
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Black_power wrote: remeber microwaves cook from from the inside out and keep radiating for atleast 2mins after the food is "cooked"
remeber that next time to take something out and start scoffing it straight away...even in the manuals they tell you to leave food standing for 4mins after micro has finished
just out of interest, do u own a microwave yourself?
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 21:00 |
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Yes.....but HATE using it...id rather eat my food cold.
I see people making all sorts in theirs...even cups of tea
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 21:11 |
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see some poeple take it too far. things like tea are just pure lazyness. at my house, its used to warm things up in out of convienience but never to actually COOk food in.
 its dangerouse to heat water in a microwave. i have an email on it. as soon as i find it in outlook, i'll post it. its worth reading.
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 21:25 |
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Subject: FW: Health & Safety - Microwaved Water
MICROWAVED WATER - MUST READ
A 26-year old person decided to have a cup of coffee. He took a cup of
water and put it in the microwave to heat it up (something that he had done
numerous times before). It was not known how long he set the timer for, but
he wanted to bring the water to a boil. When the timer shut the oven off,
he removed the cup from the oven. As he looked into the cup, he noted that
the water was not boiling, but instantly the water in the cup "blew up"
into his face. The cup remained intact until he threw it out of his hand
but all the water had flown out into his face due to the build up of
energy. His whole face is blistered and he has 1st and 2nd degree burns to
his face which may leave scarring. He also may have lost partial sight in
his left eye.
While at the hospital, the doctor who was attending to him stated that
this is fairly common occurrence and water (alone) should never be heated
in a microwave oven. If water is heated in this manner, something should
be placed in the cup to diffuse the energy such as: a wooden stir stick,
tea bag, etc. It is however a much safer choice to boil the water in a tea
kettle.
General Electric's response:
Thanks for contacting us. I will be happy to assist you.
The e-mail that you received is correct. Microwaved water and other
liquids do not always bubble when they reach the boiling point. They can
actually get superheated and not bubble at all. The superheated liquid will
bubble up out of the cup when it is moved or when something like a spoon or
tea bag put into it.
To prevent this from happening and causing injury, do not heat any
liquid for more than two minutes per cup. After heating, let the cup stand
in the microwave for thirty seconds before moving it or adding anything
into it.
If you pass this on ... you could very well save someone from a lot ofpain and suffering.
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 21:37 |
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interesting read...
props for the info..
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Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 21:49 |
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no problem 
I belive it too cos i remember when i was working in an office last summer and i wanted to make some peppermint tea but the kettle was way too filthy and clogged with limescale for me to even contemplate using. So i filled my cup with water from the water machine and put it in the microwave. after a few minutes, i couldn't understand why it wasnt bubbling up but when i reached in to take the cup out, the handle was scortching hot! i was in shock cos it was so unexpected and my fingers were stinging for the rest of the day.
so take it serously people! its not a joke!
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 04:33 |
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"Liberate the minds of men and ultimately you will liberate the bodies of men."
--Marcus Moziah Garvey
This is an exquisite display of letting convenience turned not so convenient for this poor plant.
I make it a rule to stay far away from microwaves.
Now since microwaves are FREQUENCY waves interfering with plant growth I wonder what the results would be with cell phone FREQUENCY waves on living things such as plants.
If the results are like this plant, it could be catasphrophe especially on teenager still growing and learning.
A whole generation impared.
Scary.
I heard plastic particles when used with microwave fuses with the food.
Ceramic was the way to go. Grandma knew the wonders of ceramics or earthware.
Enough of me.
Great post.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 06:02 |
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Considering the nutrients they nuked in the water I'm not surprised at all.
Good observation!
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 06:58 |
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liberiangirl wrote: So? How does knowing that microwave waters kills a plant prove that it will be harmful to humans? So now the anatomy of a plant and a human are so similar that whatever is harmful to a plant must also be harmful to a human? Pouring soda and and soft drinks into a plant will kill it as well, does that mean that it will kill us? If you give a plant too much water that can kill it, now that must mean water will kill us too? If a plant doesnt get enough sunlight it will die so i guess that must mean that if we dont stay out in the sun long enough we will die too, i guess. LOl, what a silly comparison. Besides, most people that i know of dont use microwaved water on a regular basis anyway .
Not a weird post, a reasonable arguement, however if one did drink enough soda the gas alone would do serious damage. So one can O.D. on fizzy drinks. Its also known that we can OD on water, all be it you would have to drink lots of it. Humans do need sunlight for skin reproduction. Although physically we could survive without it, it does effect as mentally (e.g. depression etc) which in turn and within time effects us physically. So not entirely a silly comparison.
Interesting post though and a topic which i have always been suspicious of, so doesn't entirely surprise me.
Cant beat a good bit of meat and two veg..............steamed of course.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 08:02 |
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I remember they used to say never stand to close to the microwave while it is on. Stand at least 5 to 10 feet away because if you stand to close the microwaves could cause cancer....
....or something like that.
This sucks cuz I've always mircowaved the water I put in my "Cup O' Noodles" is that bad now? Fugggg!
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 11:00 |
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Microwave ovens are made for todays lazy society. From microwave ovens to mobile phones governments base everything on risk thresholds which basically admit something is dangerous but you'll be ok if you stick to these guidelines - which of course will not be everybody's cup of tea but a few adversities or even a few stiffs is a small price to pay for the money to be made.
In this society even death is a commodity, something to make money from. The attitude taken is that if one thing doesn't kill you then something else will so if using microwave ovens within our guidelines knocks a couple of years off your life then you've still had a good run with the added comfort of having hot food at the touch of a button and hey the system makes money at the same time.
If that's what it's doing to water would you want to heat your baby's milk in that but worse of all why would you need evidence like this before checking to check. Negative effects? From rampant bowel disorders to what appears to be an increase in homo's don't ramp with babylon on their experiments. Why do you think water that apparently has been running free for thousands of years in the hills all of a sudden gets a sell by date when they bottle it.
Think of it this way, who do you think creates and releases all the computer virus - the same people who create and release the cure - it's an easy way to make money!
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 12:40 |
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Apparently grilling your food causes cancer as the an oxidative reaction will occur..............shall people stop using grill, pan, or naything that triggers the oxidative reaction?
or shall we all just Boil.......oh hold on we can't boil because it reduces nutrient capacity.......
steam yes lets just eat Steamed food
is it me or is anything in british land is starting to become hystrical !
mircrowave is fine , same as grilling , same as boiling.............
we do not have the time like we did 40 years ago to be slow cooking *straight* out of my back yard farm veg.
Their is risk with everything industrial
if people want to get worried, then myabe they should sell their car....the BIGGEST polutant cause, and even the oil that comes with it.
eh........that tends to shut people up.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 15:18 |
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Soulstarr wrote: Funnily enough, i was gonna ask a question about microwaves today. I went to my friends house for dinner yesterday and they don't even own a microwave so its making me question whether I should carry on using one anymore...
I've never owned or wanted a microwave. Never trusted them 100%.
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Posted: Monday April 17th, 2006 16:20 |
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What a wierd response.... duh, of course the anotomy of a plant is different, but does it not stand to reason that if a simple anatomy can be damaged so quickly then a more complex one like are own will eventually come to some harm???? Why then is baby milk not advised to be heated up in microwave???? because they are harmful effects.... things that were considered harmless 50 years ago have now had the dangers highlighted i.e smoking... do we wait 50 years in the future before we act now????
No, it doesnt "stand to reason". Why are people supposed to believe that microwaved water is harmful based on what kind of through research???? A high school girls science project? This is not some careful experiment repeatedly tested by Phd scientists....... this is a school science project. How do we know that its because of the microwaved water that made the plant die? Unless an experiment is throughly conducted there are so many variables that could be involved, so excuse me if im not so quick to trust the results of some little girls school project.
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