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Posted: Sunday June 12th, 2005 19:47 |
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The Tonite programme last friday focused on this increasing trend, did anyone see it?? One woman claimed she would rather her daughter be a heroin addict, as it is easier and to come off this than weed and more is done to help people who are addicted to it?! Thought that was a bit extreme but interesting none the less
One guy hadnt smoked a joint for 5 years but was still hearing voices in his head, so is now schizophrenic. I feel weed/skunk is seen as this innocent non addictive drug, but it isnt. Obviously certain people are more susceptible to getting psychosis but u dont know until it affects you, but one of the factors is you are more likely to get it if someone in your family has a mental illness.
Does anyone know anyone who has been affected by weed/skunk pyschosis or are you yourself worried about the affects smoking weed could have on your mental health?????
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Posted: Sunday June 12th, 2005 22:22 |
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Funnily enough, a friend a I were talking about this before. Those people who take weed are glorified drug addicts. that right.
Scitzophrena (sp) is not the one. ever sing person i've met that blazes has got psychological problems. whenever i hear that a potential mate blazes, i'm gone, they will be eating my dust.
Smoking weed is one of the most disgusting things somebody can do in my personal opinion!
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Posted: Sunday June 12th, 2005 22:38 |
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A friend of mine was training to work with drug addicts in re-hab. Having been an ex junkie and alcoholic herself she felt she could give a lot of help to other sufferers. She went to see a Harley Street psychiatrist as part of her on going training and also because she could not kick tobacco. It remained her last and only vice.
The psychiatrist asked her if she smoked weed...she said no but she used to back in the Seventies. He told her that the Cannabis smoked back then was ok from a mental health point of view, but not the skunk weed people are smoking now. It is classed as a "psychotic" and many people are suffering all kinds of mental health problems due to it.
Many people I know have given it up after reporting quite turbulent mood swings. I know I;ve had a go myself and just did not like the way it made me feel. There is a vast difference between smoking skunk weed and smoking hash, and I know lots of old hippies from the Seventies who wont touch it.
I think its unwise for young people who are still experiencing changes within them due to hormones/adolescence to be smoking the stuff. Only time will tell what the effects will be. Professionals in mental health are very concerned about the effects of skunk weed and ecstasy on young people, and are expecting an increase in psychotic illnesses in not too distant future.
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 03:06 |
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Well I definitly wouldnt want my kid to be a dope fiend, if i had to choice, i would rather them smoke weed. I wouldnt want them to use anything at all but using herion, crack or cocain is not whats up. Weed and is a hard drug to stop using and so is nicotine but it depends on the person. I seen people be burnt out and unmotivated smoking weed and I seen others who were focused and could stop on their own. The addiction is very strong but no where near as strong as harder drugs. I seen dope fiend men suck penis for more drugs, I never seen a pot head do that. I can't really say its a gateway drug either because most potheads I've seen usually stick with their drug of choice, maybe including things like alcohol or cigarrettes.
I know that marijuana does not cause anytime of pychosis what so ever. If someone is suffering from a mental illness already, any type of drug or alcohol will have an even greater affect on them.
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 15:29 |
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Talk a walk around the streets of Willesden, Harlesden and Kensal Rise. you'll see enough brothers out there walking around chatting to themselves twitching...
...I'm convinced that the overuse of weed by our youth is leading to trouble, and a contributory factor in black mens over representation in the UK Mental Health system...
The confused legal staus is truley disasterous for all concerned...
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 15:51 |
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About the legal thing @ Love Daddy dont know if you remember 2-3 years ago the police were trying out this new initiative in Brixton. Where basically if someone was caught with weed/skunk they would get a caution because the police thought they spent too much time arresting people for these offences, and would rather spend more time on more serious offences. Dont know if this is still the case or just a temporary thing they wanted to try out?
Because I dont blaze my friend explained to me the difference between weed and skunk. He only smokes weed and wont touch skunk, he said it is a "new" form of weed and most young kids today smoke this instead of regular weed and has got all types of chemicals in it, hence why it affects some people.
Black people are over-represented in the mental health system, dont know if it is due to other factors but I reckon skunk smoking plays a part. Also black people are more likely to be just be given drugs and put in mental institutions. Whereas white people are more likely to get counselling/psychiatrist help aswell as medication. Medication only stops the symptoms and doesnt adress the underlying problem like counselling does.
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 16:03 |
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@BB182
You'll get no argument from me about the devastating effects stereotyping and misdiagnosis is having. There are more black people in the system than have problems.
In terms of the Weed v Skunk debate, that's my main beef; You're average plod won't know the difference, and neither is the average Joe unless they've puffed them...
...it's this confusion that is more damaging. Either completely legalise them, or completely ban them (for me Weed IS a gateway drug), so I'd move to the latter.
I was in JA when Blunkett re-classified the staus, and it made BIG news out there as most people thought that it sent the wrong signals... Now you have the situation where people haven't the foggiest as to what you can light up, where and when...
...pure foolishness.
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 16:18 |
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Here is a table of the illegal substances and the penalties they carry... NOTE that processed mushrooms are class A. Most people won't have known that.
http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/home/youandyourcommunity/staysafe/youandsubstanceuse/substanceusepolicy10drugsandlaw.htm
However that was then...
Bollocks-it-all-up-Blunkeet has since reclassified Canibus as Class C
http://www.skunk.co.uk/skunk/overview/law.asp
You will also note that the law does not distinguish between weed and skunk. There are proposals to change this I think (so the net gossip says) but Im not sure...
IMO Skunk should be class A. It's danger lies in that people underestimate it.
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 16:49 |
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@DM
I agree with you on Skunk, but like I said earlier, it's just a complete mess. The Government said that by reclassifying weeds status, it would free up police to target peddlers of harder stuff. From where I'm looking, it's the same said geezers who are selling both of them, and to be honest, there appear to be MORE dealers out there than before the change.
...the system is a shambles. I'm moving towards a zero-tolerance view on these matters, as humans tend to have addictive personalities and don't know when to stop. I'd like to put everything into class A, so that people would think twice before using it...
...as with many other aspects of UK life, I'd like us to get back to stigmatising behavior that is inherently destructive... This is one of those issues.
(p.s. why is this thread's display not wrapping on the screen???)
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Posted: Monday June 13th, 2005 17:15 |
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@ BlackButterfly - yeah, I remember that. Even though we all agree that weeds a no-no, it did change the dynamics on the streets of Brixton. There was a lot less drama around Kentucky for a while!
The whole idea was that the then police super (can't remember his name, gay though) decided to deal with drugs on more of a realistic level and pointed out that the middle classes that came down in the droves to buy Coke and other class A's posed more of a problem than the little youths smoking a bit of weed.
This didn't go down well with the media and governement as their precious dears were targeted as the criminals for a change! Soon, we knew far too much about the supers personal life and the next minute somebody had admitted that he had smoked weed with him in the past,then he was gone.Hmm..
The way the police deal with this is to CONTROL the issue, not eradicate it. And they are happy for it to be in Brixton, not Hampstead-even if most of the people that can buy a fair few grams would be more likely to come from there!
SORRY FOR THE DIGRESSION!!
The skunk is definitely more A class, a bit like comparing red seal hemp to rocky if anyone knows what I mean.
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