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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 08:19 |
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Just would like some concrete or useful advise on how to use my degree to its full potential regardless of what level it is. what things should i be doing and
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 09:32 |
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| What do you have a degree in?
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Posted: Monday July 5th, 2004 14:51 |
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Hey Lady Day,
The best thing you can do with your degree is know your field, know the business (operational side) of your field and with the knowledge and tools you have, create your own setup. Don't rely on the promises made unless the promises are from people who have the literal power to give you the job you are doing your degree for.
I say this because I found that my degree hasn't given me any of the priviledges that I was led to believe it would. I got my name on that piece of paper, I did all the graduate fairs, suited and booted, handing out CV's, networking, direct mail, cold calling etc etc only to find that a degree is like running water these days and so many people have them that the competition is fierce. The generic rejection letters were becoming a joke, to the point that I stopped taking it personally and realised that most graduates are told the same thing.
When I finished being angry and feeling like a fool for thinking that I really did stand a chance pursuing a career, in their way, I decided to carve out my own career. That's what I'm working on now, but it hasn't been as isn't easy.
Although I haven't started out fully, my years and years of reserach mean that I've got a very good business head so if you'd like PM or talk here, tell me about your degree and what area of your chosen subject you are interested in and I can give you some more ideas 
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Posted: Tuesday July 6th, 2004 08:34 |
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hi Maat thanks for your replt what so you mean creat your own set up
@all my degree is in joint Media Studies and American studies i am interested in all aspects of the media in particular radio and the periodical press and publishing. i have been to my local radio station to check out how things are run but it was very limited experience. my experiences with publishing- when i was at college i did some work experience with The X-Press. which i learned a lot from. my ultimate aim would be to have my own magazine somewhere. but yes i do love writing, i have gathered many popular writing aids such as the oxford style guide, writers yearbook or handbook(yellow book) rogets thesarus etc.
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Posted: Tuesday July 6th, 2004 11:38 |
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LadyDay wrote: hi Maat thanks for your replt what so you mean creat your own set up I mean start your own business!
@all my degree is in joint Media Studies and American studies i am interested in all aspects of the media in particular radio and the periodical press and publishing. OK great so what is it about those things that interest you? For example, do you like the editing side, the presentation of the package that the published material is displayed in, the legal side of radion, the advertising side. the marketing side, the face to face contact, the journalist side.. you follow? Find the part that you like most first.
i have been to my local radio station to check out how things are run but it was very limited experience. How long was that experience for and how long does your industry say you need to have been in the field for before they can give you a job? How much did they let you do and if it wasn't much, how much did you see and gather about how they ran things? Did you build a rapour with anyone there that you can consider a contact? If yes, go find their number and give them a call. "Hey remember me? LOL"
my experiences with publishing- when i was at college i did some work experience with The X-Press. which i learned a lot from. my ultimate aim would be to have my own magazine somewhere. Excellent  didn't read this part properly before I wrote the above tut! tut! but yes i do love writing, i have gathered many popular writing aids such as the oxford style guide, writers yearbook or handbook(yellow book) rogets thesarus etc. OK so now build on that. Think about and start putting some of those theories into practice to develop and create YOUR magazine. Do you do spider charts, mind maps or brainstorming - as I call it? If not, try it and just put everything that comes to your head regarding the magazine.
Like, how do you want it to look, what will it contain, who do you want to buy it, who are your competitors, how will your magazine be different (what is your niche?), how much will you charge for it, are there any laws that you will need to abide by when producing, printing, selling it and so on. How much will it cost for you to produce, how much will you need to make in profit from your sales to put back into your magazine, who will you get to do your artwork, will you be able to do all of this by yourself or do you need to consider pulling together your talents and other talents of friends or perhaps family - who of course need to able to keep business and persoanl things seperate. The questions make it seem complicated but if you start of thinking small, you realise that the idea is yours and you can do what ever YOU want with it.
Having said all the above, I don't mean not to work. You gotta eat right?! More to the point though, the experience will help you get an idea of how it will be when it's your turn and you can also see the highs and lows of what the practice involves facing. That saves you in the long run from losing out through those mistakes. That doesn't mean that you won't make any but you know we have to in order to learn and aviod the mistake like the plague LOL.
I hope that's got your mind ticking over. The questions aren't necessarily for you to answer out here but perhaps to yourself on paper so you get a good start. If you have more questions, or need me to clarify anything, please let me know OK
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Posted: Wednesday July 7th, 2004 08:13 |
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thank you so much
alot of what you said i should have been doing time ago.
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Posted: Wednesday July 7th, 2004 15:15 |
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LadyDay wrote: thank you so much
alot of what you said i should have been doing time ago.
Don't worry sis, it's all in your head and the above is just the first stage, so once you get writing it will all pour out. It's never too late to start, because now you are doing something to make your dream a reality
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Posted: Tuesday February 21st, 2006 00:45 |
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1. What is "media studies"?
2. How many of the top journalists or editorial staff in Britain (or anywhere else for that matter) have degrees in "media studies"?
Just curious.
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Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 18:06 |
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Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 19:59 |
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MG, I've been told by people who claim to know that no one gets into Journalism without a degree these days.
But there are side doors.
As for what exactly is Media Studies - I think it's an involved study of the media including film, radio, television and print.
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Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 20:02 |
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Media studies, a communication science, studies the nature and effects of mass media upon individuals and society. A cross-disciplinary field, media studies uses techniques from cultural studies, psychology, art theory, sociology, information theory, and economics. Media studies has greatly influenced the development of multimedia and of performance art.
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Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 20:24 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote:
1. What is "media studies"?
2. How many of the top journalists or editorial staff in Britain (or anywhere else for that matter) have degrees in "media studies"?
Just curious.
Interesting that none of the people studying this subject can answer.
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Posted: Tuesday April 25th, 2006 21:02 |
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@mgl didnt realise you were going into archives
my friend not only has a media degree she also has a post grad in media that was sponsored by a top uk media outlet
you find some do have qualifications some its who you know
luckily for her, she chose a well to do uni for her post grad
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Posted: Sunday April 30th, 2006 23:13 |
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How many of the top journalists or editorial staff in Britain (or anywhere else for that matter) have degrees in "media studies"?
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Posted: Monday May 1st, 2006 08:24 |
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LadyDay - ticks lead to tickets and a tick in the degree box is definitely a ticket. Even if media is a hard bus to ride remember to many employers a degree is a demonstration of discipline and an illustration that if an employer gives you something new to do you can learn it. So simply use it as a bartering tool - in the worse case even to get you a job in an unrelated field.
And always remember this, yu have to be more than twice as good as your white peers to get half the reward so from racism to redundancy, no matter what hurdles you face in the real world of employment, they can never take that degree away from you
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Posted: Monday May 29th, 2006 21:39 |
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Posted: Tuesday May 30th, 2006 00:51 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote: How many of the top journalists or editorial staff in Britain (or anywhere else for that matter) have degrees in "media studies"?
And how old are they? 
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 17:15 |
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There are many things that you can do, some have already been mention, BUT, as a safe guard and an insurance policy, consider these safety nets:
- Doing a teaching course like a PGCE or the GTP for teachers, both are short one year or less full time courses that are funded by the government and offer financial incentives for you to do the course
- Post Grad studies
WHY?? Simply, if you find yourself without a job now, you will have used your time smartly and in the future you will have other options to progress your career.. think about it.. a CV looks good with a post grad qualification on it..
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 18:44 |
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EF MAX wrote: There are many things that you can do, some have already been mention, BUT, as a safe guard and an insurance policy, consider these safety nets:
- Doing a teaching course like a PGCE or the GTP for teachers, both are short one year or less full time courses that are funded by the government and offer financial incentives for you to do the course
- Post Grad studies
A PGCE may "only be a year long" but it is highly intnse and involved. I would only recomend it for people who are serious about going into teaching. Even then, you need to comlete your NQT year before you are a "fully fledged" teacher. To simply have it as a fall back makes no sense. If you get it, then decide to teach a few years after trying something else, you need to do your research and get yourslef up to date on latest teaching methods etc. Can't just walk into a classroom.
Back to topic, alot of journalist seem to have a lack or respect for those who have media studies degrees. They seem to favour those who have work experince. That being siad, work experince can be difficult to get, esp if you have to maintain a job as W.E .rarely pays.
I wanted to go into journalism (print) myself. Experince was difficult to get. Since i was mostly interested in the writing ascpect, my first degree was in Writing & Publishing studies (American studies minor).
You can use your degree to get you in the door if your course involved practical media placements, which it seems it did. As you say, its who you know and experience lets you build up contacts.
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