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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 17:50 |
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Just a general question but does anybody know anything about conspiracy charges and what kind of punishments to expect? Its with regards to conspiring to fraud their work place, they have had a clean slate up til now and even have good references from the same work place. Basically they were being threatened by an outsider and decided to tell the manager and then now this is the position they are in. This person is completely innocent and has most things going in their favour, but has been charged with this. The solicitor told her to expect community service, but i just wondered if there was a general guideline. Or if anybody knew of a site with this information?
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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 21:11 |
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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 21:49 |
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| Someone told ur bredrin to pull a scam at her workplace and instead of telling them to piss off she tells her manager instead? And now this gal is facing fraud charges? Either homegirl is lieing to u or she has no form of sense in her head
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Posted: Monday August 8th, 2005 22:26 |
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 17:13 |
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 17:21 |
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@Blackmatta - thanks for that information in your first post
@Facetygal - i asked for people's advice on this case and any law guidelines available in this situation not your comments on what you think of my friend, i honestly dont care what you think of her.
So i am going to word it better as obviously you didnt understand what i was asking: AGAIN if anybody has a legal background and can provide info on this case or any law guidelines or a web address please contact me, as information on this case and nothing else would be truly helpful.
At the moment i dont need any criticism on my friend and what she should have or shouldnt have done thats not the issue. if i ever feel that i need your advice on her im a big enough woman to ask. I merely want advice on the case as this is what this partiular forum is about ADVICE.
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 18:42 |
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Woah! Calmez Vous
Facety Gal was only trying to make sence of the situation.
Could you go through the event bit by bit please, make it a bit easier to understand, for the advice to follow..
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 19:52 |
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Actually advanced spark i don't think facetygal was trying to make sense of the situation, there was no need for her to try to, at the end of the day if she doesn't know anything about law or where i could get info then she need not answer. It seems like she was one of those people who was just waiting to have a dig. This sentance doesnt sound like she was trying to make sense "Either homegirl is lieing to u or she has no form of sense in her head"
Anyway back on the subject - Advanced Spark, do you know anything about law? Coz at the moment i cant deal with explaining the whole thing to you if you don't. I will PM you when you reply that you know info about law. As you can imagine, this case is going to court and i am really concerned for my friend and would rather not be airing out the details of her laundry unnecessarily.
Awaiting you reply. I may not be on for much longer as i have a 2 year old that needs a bath.
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Posted: Tuesday August 9th, 2005 23:18 |
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@ Bahamas Babe
This story sounds dodgy and ur asking people to help ur friend who very well could be guilty. Your not new to this site so u should know if u air ur business on here someone will pass comment, doesn't matter if it is me or someone else. Your friend would not be going to court if there wasn't any evidence she committed or was intending to commit a crime. Do a google search on conspiracy charges or go to the library.Last edited on Tuesday August 9th, 2005 23:23 by facetygal
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Posted: Wednesday August 10th, 2005 06:27 |
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Do u know what faceteygal...i have far more better things to do to explian things that YOU dont know about to YOU. So i will take your advice and seek my answers elsewhere. I thought this was an advice session and obviously it isn't so forget it.
ONCE AGAIN, I DID NOT ASK FOR YOUR OPINION ON WHAT YOU THINK OF MY FRIEND i am not here to discuss that with YOU, that isnt the issue, but at the end of the day u do not know the whole situation and not everyone who goes to court is guilty what are u a policewoman or something
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Posted: Wednesday August 10th, 2005 07:32 |
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| Yeah my advice was to do a google search or go to the library. There's been 76 views and no one else is forthcoming with advice, that should tell u something. Telling quarter of a story then being cagey about telling the rest isn't going to help u either, best u never said anything in the first place. Tell ur bredrin to go to the citizen's advice bureau
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Posted: Wednesday August 10th, 2005 08:01 |
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Posted: Wednesday August 10th, 2005 17:31 |
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@Blackmatta - thanks for that, i will check it out.
@u know who....nothing more to be said, got better things to do and i wont converse with you anymore on this subject, so whateva u say now will be ignored, i will be the bigger person.
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Posted: Tuesday August 23rd, 2005 13:45 |
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" ... Basically they were being threatened by an outsider and decided to tell the manager and then now this is the position they are in. This person is completely innocent and has most things going in their favour, but has been charged with this. The solicitor told her to expect community service, but i just wondered if there was a general guideline. Or if anybody knew of a site with this information?"
1. If someone is "completely innocent", why should their "solicitor" tell them to expect "community service"?
2. What defence case has the "solicitor" prepared?
3. How can anyone be charged with conspiracy to defraud for reporting a threat from an external person to an internal manager?
4. What legal advice has the defendant actually sought from their solicitor?
5. What actions is the defendant alleged to have taken as part of the conspiracy to defraud - and did they commit these acts or not?
6. Isn't duress a defence in most criminal cases?
7. Are you absolutely sure that you know what you're talking about?
http://www.blacksolicitorsnetwork.co.uk/
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Posted: Tuesday August 23rd, 2005 13:56 |
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... http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section8/chapter_b.html
(I found this in 10 seconds on the internet - what is the "solicitor" doing?)
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Posted: Tuesday August 23rd, 2005 18:05 |
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For the record, my friend is completely innocent, she was cleared of all charges last Monday. The judge ruled that she was under immense pressure by an unknown person. The judge and jury agreed that she was under extreme duress and pressure, was not mentally capable of dealing with this as she had just lost her mother to cancer. The judge also said that the police had long enough to find any evidence (which they never did). The 12 jurors decided that she was innocent and just got caught at a bad point in her life. The judge also said that the whole trial was a waste of time.
PS MarcusGarveyLives - she reported it to her manager who had to call in the big wigs and initially it was just to interview her to find out if she knew who was threatening her. It was the police who decided that she had done something. They kept rebailing her (they did this over 9 times in the last year) and only interviewed her once and that was last month.
In regards to your last point about whether i know what i am talking about "no" i didnt know what i was talking about, thats why i asked for advice on understanding the issue, but thanks for not being so sarcastic about it.
Anyway as the judge said "CASE IS CLOSED".
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Posted: Tuesday August 23rd, 2005 19:02 |
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I suggest that your friend seeks legal advice with a view to suing the police for wrongful arrest, false imprisonment and malicious prosecution. And preferably from someone who will not advise her to "expect community service" in relation to charges of which she is completely innocent.
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Posted: Tuesday August 23rd, 2005 19:04 |
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