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Posted: Wednesday January 21st, 2004 12:33 |
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Kunjufu and the Administration:
Not to disrespect any of the valuable posters and their contributions on our many threads, but I think you should guard yourselves and makes sure this site doesn't get cluttered with too many forums and selections.
One of the things that I like about this site...and I'm sure MOST posters like it also, is it's CLARITY and the relative EASE with which one can find topics and post.
If you keep creating forums for every topic under the sun, pretty soon people are gonna start getting confused and frustrated...especially new comers.
We're gonna stop looking like a village and more like a jumbled up metropolis...without the grid-system.
 So let me make some suggestions that ofcourse you don't have to consider....but IS food for thought.
1)We already had an Under 18 Forum...didn't see a need to create and Under 25 one.
Unless we're gonna change it to a "19-25 Forum"; maybe we should just keep the Under 25 Forum (which looks more and more like the Under 18 Forum with each passing week) and get rid of the Under 18 Forum.
2)Get rid of the Games Forum
3)Since we already have an Advice as well as a Professional Forum...we can scrap the IT Forum.
4) We can scrap the Student Forum also. Either that or combine it with the Professional Forum and make a new name for it.
5) Now, we have a POETRY, ART, and BOOK REVIEW Forums but in my opinion atleast ONE of these Forums should merge with the other but all 3 is a little bit too "patsy" for most tastes don't you think?
6)The Basics and Comments section should also be combined if you ask me, although I do see a purpose for them being separate.
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And the "Dust Bin Forum"?????
Come on yall.......
If the posts are THAT bad then you need to just go ahead and delete the mess...no need to belittle them or create ghettos in the village.
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Posted: Wednesday January 21st, 2004 12:47 |
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Also.....
Let me beat some of the other posters to the punch by stating that I think there are "slightly" too many Emoticons and Flags.
Seeing as how a lot of them are redundant and basically display the same emotions, the number of configurations should (in my opinion) be cut in half.
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Posted: Wednesday January 21st, 2004 14:33 |
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| Mr Banks comments noted I'm sure Admin may want to comment, so I'll wait until I see their response or comment more indepth later ok
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Posted: Thursday January 22nd, 2004 02:46 |
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Good Point, we are looking into this and we'll keep you posted... 
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Posted: Thursday January 22nd, 2004 03:05 |
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| Thank you both!
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Posted: Tuesday January 27th, 2004 07:06 |
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I LIKE the emoticons thanks!      
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Posted: Tuesday January 27th, 2004 10:25 |
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@K and Admin - funnily enough, I was thinking the same thing...it's getting very busy in here.
Look forward to seeing what new zoning regs our "Urban Planners" come up with!
@K - luv the new pics (although I do miss The K!). whose eyes are those?! which reminds me...where's my pic????
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Posted: Wednesday January 28th, 2004 06:03 |
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| I was thinking the same thing about the Dustbin forum. I feel that it just encourages idiots to deliberately make stupid threads. Plus I don't know why certain threads remain (i.e. 'Don't be mad') on the system locked instead of just being deleted. Last edited on Wednesday January 28th, 2004 06:07 by Prince Hakeem
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Posted: Thursday January 29th, 2004 02:54 |
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MrBanks wrote:
Kunjufu and the Administration:
Not to disrespect any of the valuable posters and their contributions on our many threads, but I think you should guard yourselves and makes sure this site doesn't get cluttered with too many forums and selections.
One of the things that I like about this site...and I'm sure MOST posters like it also, is it's CLARITY and the relative EASE with which one can find topics and post.
If you keep creating forums for every topic under the sun, pretty soon people are gonna start getting confused and frustrated...especially new comers.
We're gonna stop looking like a village and more like a jumbled up metropolis...without the grid-system.
So let me make some suggestions that ofcourse you don't have to consider....but IS food for thought.
1)We already had an Under 18 Forum...didn't see a need to create and Under 25 one.
Unless we're gonna change it to a "19-25 Forum"; maybe we should just keep the Under 25 Forum (which looks more and more like the Under 18 Forum with each passing week) and get rid of the Under 18 Forum.
2)Get rid of the Games Forum
3)Since we already have an Advice as well as a Professional Forum...we can scrap the IT Forum.
4) We can scrap the Student Forum also. Either that or combine it with the Professional Forum and make a new name for it.
5) Now, we have a POETRY, ART, and BOOK REVIEW Forums but in my opinion atleast ONE of these Forums should merge with the other but all 3 is a little bit too "patsy" for most tastes don't you think?
6)The Basics and Comments section should also be combined if you ask me, although I do see a purpose for them being separate.
..oh
And the "Dust Bin Forum"?????
Come on yall.......
If the posts are THAT bad then you need to just go ahead and delete the mess...no need to belittle them or create ghettos in the village.
@Mr Banks
You know I wouldn't be Mafdet if I wasn't honest with you and I can tell you that reading your above post had me in stictches that only you can do my brother. I have been away from the boards due to a family tradegy and quickly passing through I noticed I was still logged on to this site from my last visit over a week ago, and I accidently clicked onto this thread.
Only you Mr Banks (smile) can moan and grumble in the way you do, ya miserable git (Lol) and let me tell ya, due to my current circumstances I am no way on true form to mock and humour your above post, in true Mafdet style (smile). Don't know when I will be back, but thanks for making me laugh, because it has been a while and you know how Maffy likes to laugh.
Brother Banks you take care of yourself and all the others take care of yoursleves I enjoyed chatting battling, argueing, debating and having fun and laughs with you all.
 
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Posted: Thursday January 29th, 2004 04:03 |
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hey maf - was that a goodbye? I hope not. you know u will be sorely missed by me especially.
I am going to PM you and hopefully u will check yr PM
Take care and all the best to you and your family
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Posted: Thursday January 29th, 2004 10:16 |
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@MafDet
Sorry to hear the bad news... will drop you a PM... am also about to ease back and restrict posting... but give shout when or if you get back into circulation...
Take care...
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Posted: Thursday January 29th, 2004 20:07 |
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I agree - the other day I posted a reply in one of the forums - and to this day cannot find where it is or whether or not it has been responded too. Way too many catagories and forums.
I bet it will take me two months to find this one again! LOL
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Posted: Friday January 30th, 2004 07:15 |
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| Mafdet sorry to hear the bad news-hope u r holding up
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Posted: Sunday February 1st, 2004 18:45 |
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MrBanks + All
For once I actually have to say I agree with you.
I'll explain how it affects me. Now I know nothing stays the same in life and things move around. Its just that I have watched this new forum grow becuase I came around the time that it was opened. Now when I first got here everything made sense and all the threads and posters felt accessable. Now I dont come here as much becuase it takes way too long to locate and read discussions im interested in. Maybe Im getting old and am getting to the stage where I dont like change but oh how I wish it was the same as it was when I first came here. There are just toooooo many threads. When I log on I dont know where to start so usually just click the x.
Maybe there should be a limit of the number of threads that can be started a week and when the limit is reached then a message is shown to say come back at such and such a time to start this thread. It would be very annoying but it would mean that only ppl that had something they felt was worth saying would bother to come back and say it.
Also is there an unlimited amount of threads that will be created? Because eventually there is gonna be thousands and thousands of threadsand that is no village. Is there some sort of procedure that can be used to delete threads. Maybe if they have not been posted in over 3 months or something. But the valuable discussions would be deleted. Maybe there could be a way for posters to perserve and save threads that are valuable to them. I am only thinking out loud but I do feel that some sort of blets have to be tightened.
I feel that what makes this village special is being lost. Mr Banks is right (for once!). Its loosing that special village feel and is turning into a huge city. 
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Posted: Sunday February 1st, 2004 20:03 |
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Hi Chique - how are you? how is school going? I was wondering what happen to you! Your observations are good and are my sentiments exactly. were you, by any chance, here when BN decided that ads running across each page was a good idea?! Sometimes people cant see the forest for the trees.
btw - did you know that you can use the function "my account" and it will list all the threads that you have been involved in. It doesn't work though if you are not registered or if you are trying to locate a thread that you have not posted on. (I think that's how it works....I'm not even sure!)
also I did see a "watch thread" button somewhere, but I cant remember where that is but I think you can use that to tag a thread.
Chique Im like you...not too big on change. Sometimes the thing worse than "good" is "better". I usually come to the BN message board diectly...usually through the links that I get in my email box advising me that someone has replied to a thread that I had posted on. Recently, I came on here through the BN home page and what a surprise to see a column with our posts right there for all to see! I think that day I had just posted something so my post was staring back at me right on the BN front page!!! I liked it best when people had to take the Ol' beaten path to get to our village; now our village is right off the Super Highway!
oh well ...the price of progress i suppose.
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Posted: Sunday February 1st, 2004 23:26 |
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I do not mind change generally speaking, but I agree with everyone on this point. Well done, MrBanks for bringing this subject up. Yes, its hard to navigate when there are too many forums. What is worse it increases the chances of having forums with the same/similar subject!!!
@ mafdet
Extremely sorry to hear about your bad news as they say time heals - (sorry to sound cheesy, but that is what they say and I hope for your sake, it is true).
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Posted: Monday February 2nd, 2004 01:49 |
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Hello Happiness.
School is ok. How r u?
Yes I use those features kind of. Well I am like u, when I get an email I come to see what the reply is but I dont seem to get them anymore. I dont know whats going on! Oh and yes I came one day and those bill borads were here. I did not stop for long. It was tooo slow and I didnt have the paitence that day. I was pleased when I came back and they were gone. AlsoI have noticed that ome days blacknet is extreemly fast and others its unbareably slow.
But u know what,I can complain a huge amount when Im ready and I hope any of the blacknet team reading my posts remember and hold on to all the positive things I have said (and ment) about blacknet. After I wrote my above post and had logged off and was thinking about it, I thought I should have added in the beauty that is still here.
I suppose I just want to come to a village and not a city. Citys are not so plesant to relax and chill in.
But before I start up again im gonna go and reply to pm that is well overdue for a reply.
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Posted: Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 06:58 |
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A response regarding some of the points raised on this thread;
I'm not sure if people are aware, but I have for sometime already manage the number of threads in the village anyway.. I have curtained those black/white/interacial threads... by either merging new threads with existing thread already on topic.. or deleting those threads clearly designed to 'wind up' or are just silly..
As of this weekend Guest posters no longer have the privilage of starting new threads, this is right is reserved purely for Members now.. (this however will be for a trial period).
I have already made suggestions taking onboard the comments made here, about which forums can be merged to cut down the 'metropolis' effect..
The much talked about dustbin section is actually a very good tool that adds to the armoury of the moderator.. rather than just deleting posts and other users not getting the point as to why this may have happened.. with the Dustbin section, we can now send a permenant message, that reinforces what types of posts/threads are deemed unacceptable..and what are not...Therefore personally I would rather see this section remain..
It is my intent that with the growth of the Moderating team, we will be able to further moniter and if necassary miminise the level of frivolous and silly threads started here..
Finally it does have to be said that I agree with the others on being scared of rapid growth and losing the specialness of this village.. but in the real world we must accept that is will not be possible to hold back time, especially the bigger this place becomes.. What can happen however is if every takes a degree of responsibility and exercise of bit of effort to post interesting, appropriately contraversial and informative posts....rather than the lazy black/white/interracial rhetoric..these are no brainers that in my view reflects a laziness of the mind...originality please!!!
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Posted: Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 07:11 |
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Hello Mafdet. I am very sorry to hear that you have received bad news. -I noticed your recent absence and wondered where you were. Now I understand why you have not been around.
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Posted: Wednesday February 4th, 2004 02:37 |
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Maffy:
Awwwe daaamnn baby girl.......
I'm sorry to hear the bad news.
I hope it wasn't anything TOO close to home.
Sorry I couldn't respond sooner but I've been away for a couple weeks myself dealing with sh*t...and will probably be off a a lot more.
Like Happiness said, that sounded more like a "farewell to all" post than just a "just saying hi" one.
I hope you ain't gonna just "peace out" like THAT!
I still haven't gotten those {Hopefully someday you & me might be able to......} thoughts from the back of my head yet.
What ever the situation is, I wish my baby the best: 
Kunjufu:
Let me switch gears here and take the opportunity say this isn't an attack on you or the Blacknet Administration but Blacknet is starting to remind me of the American Government.....
Too many unnecessary rules and regulations that impede and confuse.
First of all, I think it's dangerous to start judging and deciding what's silly, offensive, or slack.....
All that should be done is to delete personal attacks or vulgar words...that's it.
All other thoughts or differences of opinion should be allowed and freely expressed.
I don't think you or any other moderator should be calling things "silly", "offensive" or "foolish" just because it seems that way to YOU..if it breaks the rules then delete it, if it doesn't...leave it alone.
What's offensive and tasteless to some may not be that way to others.
Secondly, I keep hearing of a big push for only "members" to be able to post.
Now only members can "start" threads...
Pretty soon only member will be able to post period.
I know I speak as a guest and understandably some may say that all this can be avoided if one simply "registers" and get it over with.
There are reasons why people don't like registering and giving out their personal information in an international setting when they discuss hot issues like race and politics. Some things are just common sense, look at that David Kelly fellow and countless others others who got clipped for speaking their minds.
But more importantly, from what I saw the original Blacknet didn't require any registration, had fewer compartments, and did quite well. The only issue was racists posting obscene messages that couldn't be deleted...distrupting the peace and flow of the threads.
Now that we have a moderated system where threads and topics can be purged...what's with all the rules and regulations?
You have enough moderators to scan through and decided what should be deleted and who should be banned...no need to keep installing all these locks on the front door.
I hope Blacknet isn't going from a Republic to a Police State .
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Mr Banks: you raised some fair points which I will respond to verbatim..however can i say I very much welcomed your thoughts and the fact that you started this debate on how you feel about the Villages..so no I didn't take it has an attack. I took it has a compliment that you and other posters cared enough to make suggestions and highlight where I maybe going wrong..I welcome and appreciate these comments ok..
On the rules & regulations tings..I agree with you I want to keep this space as positive as possible..Obviously when I was moderatoring on my own.. and trying to ensure the success of this space it was I felt important to be rigid with people.. Hopefully however this will not be necassary, now that we have much more flexibility to manage things a bit differently..hopefully you will notice the changes as we get used to moderating as a team..
On the 'silly, 'offensive' tip, Yes i know it can be slightly judgemental (hands up guilty as charged..) however I have to say part of our role here as i see it, is to demostrate leadership and direction.. therefore at time it will be necassary to take a view and act, even if it makes us unpopular..however that does not mean it cannot be debated privately or publically..ok
There has been a push for membership only access to this forum, this has however come from forumers and not the admin team, I'm on the side on not going this route, however it is hard to argue against restriction on guests when a significant minority abuse this trust..so this unfortunately is going to be a bone of contention that will run and run..
Finally Blacknet will remain blacknet whilst people like yourselves keep posting in your unique way..so the responsibility for keeping the specialness rest equally with users as well as moderators..
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Posted: Thursday February 5th, 2004 12:03 |
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Kunjufu:
I should have clarified that I've never heard any push from the administration for registration...only a few members.
But I know if enough of the senior members start complaining of guests and start demanding registration steps will eventually be taken towards that direction to appease them.....which has already begun.
But it appears that guests aren't restricted from just starting topics but also limited in which posts they can reply to as well.
Maybe it's just me but about 90% of the threads won't allow me to reply to them for some reason.
Is someone up their tryna pull a "Howard Dean" on Brutha Banks? 
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Posted: Friday February 6th, 2004 06:58 |
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Mr.Banks
I guess iss just us man, well it was just us till
I , I, well I had to man.
If only I'd have known about this thread...
ADMIN:
Sorry but,
Im feeling Kareem on this one.
anyway I sent an email a week ago about being
locked out!
No reply.
I felt like brother Malcolm when he was silenced
by the nation, and like Malcolm I came back a different
person im now Hesed???
I saw other forums and other worlds, shoo im about to start
my own forum an bring the U.N. up on charges LOL.
Anyway, heres what I said,
I said I felt it was a liberty to not warn
that this was gonna happen,If your gonna call tha thing
a family then you should communicate.
When I first posted on
blacknet I felt a kind of affiliation to what some
(NONMEMBERS)
were feeling (Kareem and others)therefore this input
(when very few were commited) kept me posting here.Thats a
serious thing to recognise,the site then grows thanks to
these kind of debates then all of a sudden theres a
members only rule and those who aint members are supposed to join or dissapear,thats very dismissive,that cheapens the use of the word family.
WARNINGS are respectful.
As for the rules
I wer'nt gonna but....
well lets just say if I did'nt desire
to set up a forum I....
Anyway whatever man!
My condolances too, Maf
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Posted: Friday February 6th, 2004 07:28 |
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| Hesaid: Just to clarify.. the issue of Guests being u |
