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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 15:15 |
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Does anyone know the best way to go about tutoring young inner-city black kids, getting facilities, using existing setups etc.
Of course I'd like to get paid, but its obviously not about the money and more about helping youngsters, particularly young men with English, Mathematics and IT.
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 15:38 |
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The best way is to bring the family back!
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 15:44 |
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Most definitely. But those of us that are priviliged enough to have achieved a degree or further education, should also help by contributing to the upbringing of our young brothers. And thus I am looking for ways to go about this.
Obviously without having to go through teacher training, as I don't have the time.
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 16:40 |
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...young brothers....and sisters
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 16:45 |
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Saying that I remember going through a phase where I was doing CV's for friends and friends of friends...can't be asked anymore.
Simulating job interviews is a good thing. I've had to prepare technical questionaires for potential employees in previous jobs before....think I may have been too hard on a ni$$a
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 17:38 |
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| There you go, young black women need tutoring too, but they are stronger academically for reasons we all know, or should know!!!
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 18:00 |
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Stronger? I don't know please enwhiten me?
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 18:28 |
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Ok. Enwhiten you I shall.
First of all statistics show that black girls do better in school. Secondly, Teachers deem young black males as threatining due to propaganda, bad media coverage, gangsta rap, bla, bla, bla...
Thirdly and most importantly, black women were programmed since Willie Lynch to raise their daughters with independence and confidence, whilst simultaneously raising their sons to be dependent but physically strong.
This is obviously not the case anymore, but the influence has propogated through time, filtered, diluted but still existant.
Proactivity, in my humble opinion will "Endarken" our future intellectual superstars.
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 18:35 |
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So basically if we bring the family back mothers will start to raise their children accordingly so they don't get caught in babylons disaster
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 18:49 |
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| what age group were you looking to work with? because i got my start through volunteering with three organisations, but they were all primary aged. I am sure there are opportunities for secondary aged too. If you want i can PM the details. can;t remember them off the top of my head. it was quite a while ago.
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 18:59 |
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| My skills are probably best suited to secondary school and up. But those details would still be appreciated, as they may point me in the right direction.
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 20:21 |
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| okey doke. i'll try and have em to ya by tomorrow morning
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 22:16 |
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 22:44 |
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We get one or two of these a year, usually a sister with a degree, would be nice if they came back to tell us how they got on with their ventures every now and then.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 07:08 |
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| @ incognito: was that @ me or pyro?
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 07:42 |
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MB - these are known as the I have a degree threads, but we'll give pyro the benefit of the doubt
Still, it makes you feel it for our success stories out there who get lost in the negative hype, you'd believe there weren't any...it's enough for an African Academic to go grey.....maybe they'll get noticed then
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 08:24 |
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well i see what you're saying incognitio.
But i think its more the case that once people get their education or get to a certin point in their career they feel a need (or an obligation perhaps?) to "give back". But what usually happens is, after a couple of dead ends they get busy with other things and put it on the back burner.
In my case i had no such altruistic need to "give back"!! i was just in a crappy dead end part time job with way too much time on my hands. Then it just evolved into a career. So i guess i did it "back to front", although i did have my degree at the time (but not my PGCE)
Yes it would be nice if people who did go the whole way spoke about their experiences and some actually do. I know i have bored people on many an occasion lol
But volunteering with children is not easy due to the time constraints. If you have a nine to five job you can only really do evenings and weekends. But ost after school type things finsih at about 6 pm, unless you want to go the "youth club" route, and that in itself would practically be a second job. And then people tend to want weekends to them selves. I was lucky because when i was volunteering my job was in the late evenings which meant i had all day free.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 10:22 |
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MB - Well true, time is the master. I'm a means to an end person myself so find it difficult to start something I know I'll have little chance of finishing but do believe collectively each doing our little part is bigger than any individuals effort.
Yeah 9-5 is a killer when it comes to time consumption not to mention the amount of time you spend with greys. If I'm honest my most precious family memories was when I was unemployed, there was a togetherness which was never equalled. But at the same time we were only a few months in the family home so there was a novelty factor to the whole experience. I often ask would the memory have been as good if I was squatting in a council house.
Having the days free is a real beauty. I've been doing a lot of work at home recently and if the family unit was tight you can see how beneficial this is when it comes to getting the kids ready for school, doing the school run and school collection. I know this wotliss brotha who's been a a full time mini cab driver since he was about 20 but the quality time he must get with the family and the time to womanise must be priceless. He's even got the time to be a member of his school's governing board.
But as I alluded to earlier, far from being wotliss, if the family unit is tight then we all play our part. As far as I'm concerned me making head ways in the 9-5 game plays as big a role as my man participating on his schools governing board. As far as I'm concerned he's there for my children as well and I'm opening academic doors for his - but the realities are sadly quite different.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 13:04 |
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So Incognito, It's a bad thing to want to help young black kids with their education, even if it is only two or three times a week?
I have a younger brother, who from sickle cell (ie. no fault of his own) is having to retake his GCSE's. His knowledge of maths is progressing but could of been a lot better, if there were a number of factors in place:
- Teachers who cared
- More young black volunteers and tutors readily available
- A willingness from the kids themselves
His peers, who did not have the same hindrance as him did not do well in school either and none have the ambition to go to university.
So yhis is not a "I have a degree, look at me" thread, it's a "What can I do to help" thread.
Cynicism and one-up-man-ship amongst black folk is also a big hindrance to education, but you wen't going there were you Incognito.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 16:42 |
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The biggest problem is the third one you mention that being the kids wanting a willingness to learn. For all your intentions what are you going to do if you encounter a class full of these. How do we install pride, discipline, an appreciation of sacrifice and ambition into the psyche.
I've got two boys of my own who as far as I'm concerned will be raised to be free and raised to see material assets for what they are, normal. But yet this means nothing if they haven't got the discipline to go with it - but babylons daughter has her own plans.
I put it to my friend that we send his delinquent son to Africa to climb mount Kilamanjaro. I said this as a means to and end of broadening the youths perspective on life. My friend said believe me, he'd go and probably say it was rubbish, you'd be better of spending the money on some playstation games. So yes it's all good, but what you need to check is whether it's good as a means to an end or good for your personal satisfaction.
This is how babylon works. One minute the focus is on blacks and truancy. The next it's blacks and poor results. The next it's blacks and crime. Now it's blacks killing each other and each step becomes the next focal point with the previous all alive and still kicking.
Got too many overnight militants who no nothing about sacrifice who woke up one day to find themselves in a battyhole. It's the heads of the hydra where our plight is so bad that instead of chopping off one head for another to grow, for every head quashed, three or four more grow in its place. I bet everyone here would welcome going back to blacks having a problem with truancy, anything as long as they stopped killing themselves. We will be perpetually firefighting our way back to family.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 17:09 |
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Well as you say, there are kids killing kids out there these days. I don't buy into this whole black on black crime crap, it's just crime.
But these kids are as young as 13 in some cases, so as you say, the family and parents are failing them. The willingness to learn stems from a stable upbringing. A stable family should consist of the the immediate family unit and the community.
We are all responsible as far as I'm concerned. I don't have all the answers for change, but I know that forums like this and the little that people do everyday to effect change is the way forward.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 19:47 |
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At this rate that's all we can do which means we'll continue to get our highs on small success stories and swell our heads on what at the end of the day are relative trivialties.
Most ethnic groups have a bigger collective agenda, they can see why they need to get educated. TFor te uncultured and most of the descendants of the slave generation, their end game is what they see on TV and in essence that's a pair of 20 inch rims.
So please go forth in your endeavours but we are still clinging to that bottom rung of the ladder which says if we save one child then it would have been worth it.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 19:53 |
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so what would you suggest as a realisitic, workable relativley immideiate solution?
It takes a village to raise a chid, but first you need people to inhabit the village. Standing on the sidelines saying the odd person moving in makes no difference does not help.
Maybe a lil tutoring session twice a week seems small scale compared to the size of our problems, but doing nothing at all then moaning about lack of change is smaller still.
I just believe that those who are willing to stand up and do something shouldn;t be critisized or discouraged or told that their contribution is too minimal to make a difference.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 20:40 |
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MB - don't get me wrong. My ambitions have always been seen to be larger than life or of the eccentric or simply unrealistic so it's not a matter of doing nothing it's really a matter of appreciating the end game. Many people are helping but the end game is to save a soul or in many other cases personal gratification.
I come from that school waiting for my people to get together and go back home in a mass exodus so my values and principles and my ideologies are infuenced by this dream. The majority absolutely love it here and see England as their home. So where I would see certain things as cosmetic firefighting gestures, these are positive end game contributions for many others.
There are two types of people in the world, those who live life the way it should be and those that live it the way it is. The latter will be an African militant by day while craving the grey meat come night....but to him, the way it is, is the way it should be. It's all relative which is why there will never be the unity required to make real change and I've always had a problem with settling for second best.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 20:44 |
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...second best, or what's commonly known as compromise.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 21:35 |
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| well having a bigger picture or an end game in sight is always good. You need to know |
